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Yamato Gasaraki
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.05 13:32:00 -
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READ BEFORE POSTING:
Rank 20 means you will spend more than a Year training this Skill to Level 5!
You will only have a relative small Extraction Rate, too.
Required:
Lvl / Skill
V Genetic Engineering
V Biology
V Cybernetics
V Learning
V Science
Description:
Allows the trained Character to remove the Knowledge of one other Character, killing (deleting) it in the Process.
Suggestion: +10.000 SP per Hour and 10% SP per Level received.
Works how:
- Player selects one owned Character to be "prepared", that Character's knowledge is downloaded.
*new Button at Char Selection Screen once Level 1 is trained.
*If only one Character with this Skill, this Character can not be prepared.
Assuming Cannisbalism Level V and a 100.ooo.ooo SP Character, this takes 100.000.000 / (10.000 * 5) = 2000 Hours = 83 Days and Yields 50.ooo.ooo SP afterwards
- Player then has the Ability to intall that Knowledge into one other owned Character.
- Only Skilllevels not known to the receiving Character (but the sacrificed Character) will be trained.
Clarification: All SPs are extracted, but only those not known to the Receiver can be "installed".
- Only one (1) Character per Account can be leeched, canceling a desecration will delete the Character at once, downloaded SPs need to be spent before another Character can be consumed, Assets will not be transferred.
For <faeces> and Giggles, CCP could add a generic Image depicting a Body with an opened Skull with Tubes and Wires sticking out of it (obviously pleasing Angle, no Brain shown) as the 'prepared' Character's Picture.
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
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Posted - 2008.10.05 13:54:00 -
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/me shakes head... sigh...
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Rackola Magicara
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Posted - 2008.10.05 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Rackola Magicara on 05/10/2008 15:37:30
 Originally by: Yamato Gasaraki
READ BEFORE POSTING:
Rank 20 means you will spend more than a Year training this Skill to Level 5!
You will only have a relative small Extraction Rate, too.
Required:
Lvl / Skill
V Genetic Engineering
V Biology
V Cybernetics
V Learning
V Science
Description:
Allows the trained Character to remove the Knowledge of one other Character, killing (deleting) it in the Process.
Suggestion: +10.000 SP per Hour and 10% SP per Level received.
Works how:
- Player selects one owned Character to be "prepared", that Character's knowledge is downloaded.
*new Button at Char Selection Screen once Level 1 is trained.
*If only one Character with this Skill, this Character can not be prepared.
Assuming Cannisbalism Level V and a 100.ooo.ooo SP Character, this takes 100.000.000 / (10.000 * 5) = 2000 Hours = 83 Days and Yields 50.ooo.ooo SP afterwards
- Player then has the Ability to intall that Knowledge into one other owned Character.
- Only Skilllevels not known to the receiving Character (but the sacrificed Character) will be trained.
Clarification: All SPs are extracted, but only those not known to the Receiver can be "installed".
- Only one (1) Character per Account can be leeched, canceling a desecration will delete the Character at once, downloaded SPs need to be spent before another Character can be consumed, Assets will not be transferred.
For <faeces> and Giggles, CCP could add a generic Image depicting a Body with an opened Skull with Tubes and Wires sticking out of it (obviously pleasing Angle, no Brain shown) as the 'prepared' Character's Picture.
This is incredibly stupid. I don't want to log back on and find my char has got less SP. THere are thousands of problems showing why it won't work. The biggest one is that nobody will want to have it in eve. The second biggest is that a whole alliance could target one char and reduce him to nothing. Third problem is tha it's just stupid. fourth problem is that some rich kid could make lots of alts and vector all the SP into hs main, meaning he gets SP much quicker.
It just does not work.
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BiggestT
Caldari
Space Oddysey
Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.10.05 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rackola Magicara
Edited by: Rackola Magicara on 05/10/2008 15:37:30
Originally by: Yamato Gasaraki
READ BEFORE POSTING:
Rank 20 means you will spend more than a Year training this Skill to Level 5!
You will only have a relative small Extraction Rate, too.
Required:
Lvl / Skill
V Genetic Engineering
V Biology
V Cybernetics
V Learning
V Science
Description:
Allows the trained Character to remove the Knowledge of one other Character, killing (deleting) it in the Process.
Suggestion: +10.000 SP per Hour and 10% SP per Level received.
Works how:
- Player selects one owned Character to be "prepared", that Character's knowledge is downloaded.
*new Button at Char Selection Screen once Level 1 is trained.
*If only one Character with this Skill, this Character can not be prepared.
Assuming Cannisbalism Level V and a 100.ooo.ooo SP Character, this takes 100.000.000 / (10.000 * 5) = 2000 Hours = 83 Days and Yields 50.ooo.ooo SP afterwards
- Player then has the Ability to intall that Knowledge into one other owned Character.
- Only Skilllevels not known to the receiving Character (but the sacrificed Character) will be trained.
Clarification: All SPs are extracted, but only those not known to the Receiver can be "installed".
- Only one (1) Character per Account can be leeched, canceling a desecration will delete the Character at once, downloaded SPs need to be spent before another Character can be consumed, Assets will not be transferred.
For <faeces> and Giggles, CCP could add a generic Image depicting a Body with an opened Skull with Tubes and Wires sticking out of it (obviously pleasing Angle, no Brain shown) as the 'prepared' Character's Picture.
This is incredibly stupid. I don't want to log back on and find my char has got less SP. THere are thousands of problems showing why it won't work. The biggest one is that nobody will want to have it in eve. The second biggest is that a whole alliance could target one char and reduce him to nothing. Third problem is tha it's just stupid. fourth problem is that some rich kid could make lots of alts and vector all the SP into hs main, meaning he gets SP much quicker.
It just does not work.
This..
Now ISK syphoning on the other hand 
Awesome EVE history
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Yaturi
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.05 15:52:00 -
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leeching sp will simply not work in this game. NOT EVEN, if you made a system that only leeched from your victims that had no updated clones (the pool of unrecoverable sp, that is). Simply wont work. Just like the bounty system is now people will take advantage with the use of friends or alts.
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Yamato Gasaraki
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.05 19:27:00 -
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< curses about People not able to read >
You can only kill your own or bought Characters, transferring the Skillpoints of that Character onto another of your Characters.
But it will take an incredible long time before it can be actualy be used at a rate high enough to actualy be usefull at all.
Also the Benefits are somewhat small, yet visible.
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Fredrick Engelberg
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Posted - 2008.10.05 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Yamato Gasaraki
READ BEFORE POSTING:
Rank 20 means you will spend more than a Year training this Skill to Level 5!
No. Most characters with decent learning skills accrue SP fast enough to train a rank 1 skill to level 5 in 5-6 days, maybe faster (depending on attributes.)
A rank 20 skill would take maybe 5 months, tops.
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Yamato Gasaraki
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.05 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Fredrick Engelberg
A rank 20 skill would take maybe 5 months, tops.
May be. I looked in EveMon for Titans (Rank 15 or 16), but did forget to compensate the Skills I currently have not trained.
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testalus rima
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Posted - 2008.10.05 21:49:00 -
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it is a nice idea in gereral...but in the end high trained chars will be even quicker highly trained! coz your problem is caused by the bases of the game: you have to decide! and if you went wrong you have to go again through it...
for example me trained the wrong industrial...now i am flying a "small" frighter only. but at the time it was the biggest industrial for less training... i could train again...but there is so much more to train.
plus! if you forget about the new players you will kill the game!!!
hangars for frighters
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.10.05 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yamato Gasaraki
Originally by: Fredrick Engelberg
A rank 20 skill would take maybe 5 months, tops.
May be. I looked in EveMon for Titans (Rank 15 or 16), but did forget to compensate the Skills I currently have not trained.
With 20 points in primary and secondary attribute it would take 118 days or 4 months to train this skill from start to finish. So it would have to be a rank 60 skill for it to take a year.
Ofcourse, you could make both primary and secondary attribute charisma, then it would take forever for the majority of EVE. ;)
Originally by: Signature
Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Zero Invention
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Posted - 2008.10.06 00:25:00 -
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Well the problem with it is a charter becoming overpowered... say there are 1 slot that has race carrier and another with titan ready for another race... the alt would leach it all and boom... its a multi-racial capital character... or ones missle spect and ther other gunnery... you got a perfect PVP character... also you got a mainly shield tanker and than a manly armor character... load it up and you got a Minmatar character ... Get the general Idea
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Sepheir Sepheron
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.06 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Fredrick Engelberg
Originally by: Yamato Gasaraki
READ BEFORE POSTING:
Rank 20 means you will spend more than a Year training this Skill to Level 5!
No. Most characters with decent learning skills accrue SP fast enough to train a rank 1 skill to level 5 in 5-6 days, maybe faster (depending on attributes.)
A rank 20 skill would take maybe 5 months, tops.
Rank 1 skill for me is 4 days (I have basic implants +3 and learning skills at 4)
4 days = rank 1
8 days = rank 2
etc
etc
80 days = rank 20
80 days is less than three months.
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Na'Thuul
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.06 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Na''Thuul on 06/10/2008 10:27:38
Congrats, you have officially won the "Stupidest idea ever" award.
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zaqq
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.06 12:32:00 -
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a lot of eve's current content has started life with the "stupid" label.
plz don't just slag ppl off.
intelligent responces and constructive criticism works better.
explain the reasons why you think something won't work, and if you can't then stfu
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Yamato Gasaraki
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.06 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Yamato Gasaraki on 06/10/2008 12:47:53
Originally by: Na'Thuul
Edited by: Na''Thuul on 06/10/2008 10:27:38
Congrats, you have officially won the "Stupidest idea ever" award.
And you've won... a Boot to the Head!
Stop posting when you don't have to say something constructive at all.
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Well the problem with it is a character becoming overpowered...
Overpowered? I don't think so, because you can learn it anyway. And Skills still train the normal speed, you just have an alternate Injection of SP into your Character.
Also, the Download takes some time, too - and you won't have the full SP, Level 5 on high Skills will still not be trained fully.
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2008.10.06 20:27:00 -
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As awesome as it sounds, this is a really bad idea for the usual commoditization-of-SP reasons. Everyone would start selling GTC for isk, buy chars and basically be uber overnight on account of having lots of money.
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.10.06 21:21:00 -
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This is just silly...
/facepalm
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ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2008.10.07 06:25:00 -
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just give us the +6-+10 attribute boosters ( drugs implant things) say 4-8 hour boost to learning skills by the above 6 to 10 points then the affect wears off
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