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Basic Miner
Caldari Navy II
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Posted - 2008.10.05 21:11:00 -
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People who have bad standing towards Curatores Veritatis Alliance should just contact them when they try to enter regions CVA operates in. Yes, you might tip of CVA of your location, and you might get blown up, but at least you asked them before harm was done, not like now, coming whining to a public discussion board for New Eden, and claiming CVA should have known that these terrorists were killing a common enemy.
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foogacity
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Posted - 2008.10.05 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Basic Miner People who have bad standing towards Curatores Veritatis Alliance should just contact them when they try to enter regions CVA operates in. Yes, you might tip of CVA of your location, and you might get blown up, but at least you asked them before harm was done, not like now, coming whining to a public discussion board for New Eden, and claiming CVA should have known that these terrorists were killing a common enemy.
Wow, so off base as to what this thread is about. Please read at least the very first post before spouting your mouth.
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Elise Randolph
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.05 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Elise Randolph
However, as one can easily see, PIE were the first to cast the first stones. I know that PIE are currently not members of CVA, but they do have a close relationship. This coupled with the fact that CVA pilots seemingly picked up the torch that PIE lit, figuratively burning down the name of both Armada and Slacker Industries.
As I pointed out earlier, the best way to get the CVA to stop shooting at you is to contact them privately to resolve your differences, not complaining about them on the forums.
Nowhere in that statement did I ask, or even imply that I was asking, for CVA to stop shooting. I was merely pointing out that it was members of your corporation that started slandering Slacker Industries, and not the other way around as others implied. ----------
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.05 23:52:00 -
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Hi CVA, remember that time you used to be allied to us? Or that other time where you inquired how much our services would cost to assist you in removing U'K? Or maybe that one incident where we baited Minmatar capital ships into the open in Providence so that you, IAC, and Goonswarm could kill them? I find your hypocrisy to be laughable at best. Please continue to publically request our "apologies" for our history, even though you know as well as I do that it is never going to happen.
Instead, I'm going to give you a choice.
Either you join this crusade properly and show the rest of the Amarr Militia that you aren't some tagalong band of dullwitted cult members valiantly protecting their little worthless corner of nullsec for the feeling of power they get seeing themselves listed on an third-party cartographer's interstellar sovereignty map
OR
You cease getting involved in our activities and limit yourselves to that same little worthless backyard you're so proud of yourselves from having taken from another second-rate alliance named Ushra'Khan, with the assistance of as many mercenaries as you could afford.
When you actually matter, you can try again to dictate policy to us. Until then its your choice, get involved or get out. My prediction is that you'll do nothing and come back with some self-righteous response claiming that empirical affairs are unimportant to you, simply because you don't want us to show to the rest of the galaxy that you are, indeed, a pathetic collection of half-rate, washed up combat pilots.
Good day sirs.
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Keiko Kobayashi
Amarr IONSTAR Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.05 23:55:00 -
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I am sad to see that an incident concerning a single pilot who has, in all honesty, deserved to get shot at, would need to turn into a 4-page flamefest. If the concerned parties wish to resolve matters, and perhaps avoid incidents like these in the future, they should initiate diplomatic efforts. Otherwise, CVA policy is clear, all involved parties are and were informed about this, so there should be no surprise here.
Had the red pilot been traveling with a gang of friendly forces, the situation may have been handled differently; CVA lauds the militiaĘs efforts and does not wish to disturb them. However this was not the case and from our perspective, this kill was thus one more on that dayĘs list of achievements towards making the Empire a safer place. The fact that some militia operation was mildly disturbed is an unfortunate by-product, but with the situation as it is, these incidents can happen from time to time.
IĘd say the CVA perspective has been made clear, and that there is no use in further discussion or flaming from Slackers or Minmatar scum.
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Madmartigan
Gallente Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.05 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Basic Miner People who have bad standing towards Curatores Veritatis Alliance should just contact them when they try to enter regions CVA operates in. Yes, you might tip of CVA of your location, and you might get blown up, but at least you asked them before harm was done, not like now, coming whining to a public discussion board for New Eden, and claiming CVA should have known that these terrorists were killing a common enemy.
So what you are actually saying is that CVA is the new master of Eve ? Is there perhaps a scedule somewhere for all to see where CVA are operating at any given time, or do we need to contact you guys every time we feel like undocking ?
Hmm........seems CVA is rather full of them selves imo.
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Greme
Amarr Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Keiko Kobayashi IĘd say the CVA perspective has been made clear, and that there is no use in further discussion or flaming from Slackers or Minmatar scum.
Your attempts at political manoeuvring around questions by only answering the ones you wish to answer are cute, but none the less equally saddening.
You have still failed to explain your hypocrisy of your policies of shooting us in the service of the Amarr for apparent "pirating" many moons ago, whilst continuing to hire pirates yourselves to further your own profits.
Furthermore, as Righteous Fury rightly pointed out, you have indeed hired OUR services on a number of occasions, which begs the question of when we count as pirates? Apparently our pilots aiding the amarrian people does not temporarily cease your thirst for blood, but our pilots aiding your personal schemes does. This to me seems intriguing to say the least.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.06 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Instead, I'm going to give you a choice.
I'll skip the revisionist history and insults and get to the heart of the matter.
In all likelihood, we will continue as we have...running patrols through the Bleaklands as our duties in Providence allow. It is regretable but seems very clear our hostilities will indeed continue, but I'm sure we'll manage just fine.
Once again thank you for making a clear and fair statement of your intentions, and good luck with your continued efforts against the Tribals.
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck I'll skip the revisionist history and insults and get to the heart of the matter.
In all likelihood, we will continue as we have...running patrols through the Bleaklands as our duties in Providence allow. It is regretable but seems very clear our hostilities will indeed continue, but I'm sure we'll manage just fine.
Once again thank you for making a clear and fair statement of your intentions, and good luck with your continued efforts against the Tribals.
Revisionist history? Buhu, we've been pirating in Providence since before CVA even existed, and hold on now, we were even blue to PIE before we made a conscious decision to leave our roots as industrialists and miners behind and embraced combat as a way of life. Perhaps that was before your time? Ethidium Bromide should be able to fill you in, provided he has not retired to a backwater estate after his service.
I really do enjoy how personally you take our pirating history and even here, years after our last coordinated combat foray into CVA space, you're still irked by it. Did we really strike that much of a nerve or leave that much of an impression that its now embarassing that we're showing you up on a daily basis on your own turf?
And you know, I think as of today, we're going to start operating a little differently. You can continue as you have, but we all know what that means. Stick to your political career, it suits your ability to talk for hours and not say anything. Who knows, maybe you can bore the Minmatar Militia to death. When we stop killing them, I cannot wait to see what excuse you have for the inevitable failure.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.06 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury Perhaps that was before your time?
There's not a whole lot in CVA that was terribly before my time, but that's a long and boring story.
I've wished you and yours well, and I've recapped the issues that matter here: we were hostile, CVA and Slackers, the hostilities were acted upon, and now we've brought the ire of the leading militiamen upon us for it.
So be it.
There's no personal stake for me here. I have no real inclination to address falicies or insults from enemies of the CVA...nor do I have any real inclination to counter with falicies or insults of my own.
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Greme
Amarr Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 00:33:00 -
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This is quite entertaining. Would ANY CVA member like to comment on your use of pirates for personal gains in 0.0? Or are you indeed too busy scuttling out of the spotlight of hypocrisy like a community of fedo.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.06 01:02:00 -
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Quote: Buhu, we've been pirating in Providence since before CVA even existed, and hold on now... I really do enjoy how personally you take our pirating history and even here, years after our last coordinated combat foray into CVA space, you're still irked by it. Did we really strike that much of a nerve or leave that much of an impression that its now embarassing that we're showing you up on a daily basis on your own turf?
I have been a member of PIE for over four years and I recall the move to Providence. I recall the pirates of the day and I recall they killed without compassion or humanity all who crossed their path. I myself had more then a few ships shot out from beneath my feet by cowardly pirates who would camp gates picking off the solo pilot while fleeing like rats when a force that actually would fight back arrived. I recall Slacker back then and their pirate activities very well. I know personally corporations stay "red" once hostile until they take action to become another type of standing on the overview. I find it completely naive to believe that past atrocities should be wiped clean because of current membership in a militia.
I guess I have three questions for Slacker at this time since this thread is about the fact CVA views them as "hostile" given their long pirate past and acts on those standings to this day.
Have you publically renounced piracy and asked God for His forgiveness for the sin of piracy?
Have you contacted CVA to reconcile your past crimes against them?
Have you apologized to all the non-CVA pilots you've killed throughout years of piracy?
Joining a militia does not absolve one of sin. At least I finally see an admission that SL lived the life of piracy and slaughtered innocent travellers both CVA and non-CVA in the past. It is ironic it took five pages for that.
I know as a man of faith who has served the Empire for many many years now I believe in the power of repentence and prayer. I believe while individuals may have personal desires all pales before the needs of God. I believe once a man sees the sins of his past, kneels down and repents and begs God for forgiveness, that is a first step. It is my hope that this admission of piracy against the innocent is the first step for Slacker and a heartfelt effort is made to atone for sin before God and the victims of your pirate activities. I am encouraged by your admission.
Archbishop
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop I have been a member of PIE for over four years and I recall the move to Providence. I recall the pirates of the day and I recall they killed without compassion or humanity all who crossed their path. I myself had more then a few ships shot out from beneath my feet by cowardly pirates who would camp gates picking off the solo pilot while fleeing like rats when a force that actually would fight back arrived. I recall Slacker back then and their pirate activities very well. I know personally corporations stay "red" once hostile until they take action to become another type of standing on the overview. I find it completely naive to believe that past atrocities should be wiped clean because of current membership in a militia.
Insinuating that we are cowards while simultaneously trailing far, far behind us in the eternal record of heretics gutted versus brothers lost on the field of combat really only puts into greater relief your failures as combat pilots, and your continued need for our serviecs in the Militia.
Originally by: Archbishop I guess I have three questions for Slacker at this time since this thread is about the fact CVA views them as "hostile" given their long pirate past and acts on those standings to this day.
Have you publically renounced piracy and asked God for His forgiveness for the sin of piracy?
Forgiveness is between you and your Creator, I merely arrage the meeting. Under no circumstances will ever renounce my service of returning lost souls to their rightful home.
Originally by: Archbishop Have you contacted CVA to reconcile your past crimes against them?
Why bother, its so much more fun to have them publically make fools of themselves.
Originally by: Archbishop Have you apologized to all the non-CVA pilots you've killed throughout years of piracy?
Never. Shockingly, a number of our victims have become staunch allies and/or valued members of our team. Would you like me to introduce you to Ms. Yuki Li and Mr. Specture as prime examples of this?
Originally by: Archbishop Joining a militia does not absolve one of sin. At least I finally see an admission that SL lived the life of piracy and slaughtered innocent travellers both CVA and non-CVA in the past. It is ironic it took five pages for that.
The irony here is your request for absolution. Obviously you have been locked away in your pathetic little kingdom for far too long, need I remind you that it is the higher power that doles out forgiveness and not YOU, mere mortals convinced of their superiority by drug and delusion?
Originally by: Archbishop I know as a man of faith who has served the Empire for many many years now I believe in the power of repentence and prayer. I believe while individuals may have personal desires all pales before the needs of God. I believe once a man sees the sins of his past, kneels down and repents and begs God for forgiveness, that is a first step. It is my hope that this admission of piracy against the innocent is the first step for Slacker and a heartfelt effort is made to atone for sin before God and the victims of your pirate activities. I am encouraged by your admission.
I'm so happy CVA has topped off their punch bowl. It has become painfully apparent that you've succumbed to the disease of clerics throughout history, mistaking yourself as the final authority of God's will. Your thinly veiled attempts of appeasing to God's power is pathetic at best, when the third parties here can easily see you are merely seeking subservience and cowardice.
You are as impotent as you are irrelevant. Perhaps it is time for you to do some soul-searching of your own, and maybe check yourself into a rehabilitation clinic before there is nothing left to save in that hollowed-out gourd God mistook for your head.
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Arkanis
Caldari Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop Joining a militia does not absolve one of sin. At least I finally see an admission that SL lived the life of piracy and slaughtered innocent travellers both CVA and non-CVA in the past. It is ironic it took five pages for that.
I know as a man of faith who has served the Empire for many many years now I believe in the power of repentence and prayer. I believe while individuals may have personal desires all pales before the needs of God. I believe once a man sees the sins of his past, kneels down and repents and begs God for forgiveness, that is a first step. It is my hope that this admission of piracy against the innocent is the first step for Slacker and a heartfelt effort is made to atone for sin before God and the victims of your pirate activities. I am encouraged by your admission.
Archbishop
Where Rubyor leads we follow.
Where is your God now?
He kneels before Rubyor.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.10.06 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
I'm so happy CVA has topped off their punch bowl. It has become painfully apparent that you've succumbed to the disease of clerics throughout history, mistaking yourself as the final authority of God's will. Your thinly veiled attempts of appeasing to God's power is pathetic at best, when the third parties here can easily see you are merely seeking subservience and cowardice.
You are as impotent as you are irrelevant. Perhaps it is time for you to do some soul-searching of your own, and maybe check yourself into a rehabilitation clinic before there is nothing left to save in that hollowed-out gourd God mistook for your head.
Words of such wisdom are rarely spoken... It seems to me that many truths are being revealed within these words. The present and the future whispers a new tide.
Most interesting.
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Greme
Amarr Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop At least I finally see an admission that SL lived the life of piracy and slaughtered innocent travellers both CVA and non-CVA in the past. It is ironic it took five pages for that.
What is even more ironic (to use the word by your meaning) is that the admission, as far as the topic on this interstellar messaging system goes, was in fact made by myself on page two. This point only throws further light on yourself, your corporation's and your Alliance chums' attempt at pulling facts from your general lower regions, or worse still, your general incompetence.
If you are going to throw around flamboyant gestures and attempts at witty stabs, at least utilise the large supply facts at hand instead of harvesting ideas from the gas-cloud inside your head.
Lastly, I do not even see a need for us to admit piracy within this topic. We have continuously admitted piracy throughout the existence of our corp. Given that it is a daily profitable venture, I cannot comprehend as to why you view this as a secret endeavour which must be admitted and somehow brought into the open.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.06 01:42:00 -
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The suggestion you repent is for your benefit not my own. You seem to dance in celebration of your past sin rather then wishing to atone for it. I am merely someone who has fought for the Empire for over four years now. I have no judgement of your soul as the holy scriptures have already spoken of your fate.
'Which test reveals more of the soul - the test that a man will take to prove his faith. or the test that finds the man who believed his faith already proven? If you know this answer, then you also know which of these challenges bear the greatest penalty for failure, The gates of paradise will open for you one time only; woe to the soul who dares to knock twice.' -Book of Missions, 5:14, The Scriptures
While you have the blessing of being born True Amarr as compared to me being a lowly Ni-Kunni I know I have never turned away from the gates. You on the other hand have cast aside the blessings of your birth and embraced a life of piracy, murder and sin thus turning away from God and living a life of evil.
Yes redemption is in the eyes of God. Do you believe in the scriptures? Do you believe in the true God of Amarr? If you do you already know the scripture I quote above. I will return now to my "pathetic little kingdom" also known as the Amarr Empire. The Empire those of true faith have served for years. An Empire I know those of true faith and loyalty will be serving long after FW has ended and Amarr victory is in place.
The question I guess for you is will you return to your life of piracy and evil or will you turn the corner and continue to serve the empire as you've done recently? I do hope you finally let God into your life and embrace the structure of the Amarr Empire and it's laws. I will say a prayer for your soul tonight.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.06 01:49:00 -
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Quote: What is even more ironic (to use the word by your meaning) is that the admission, as far as the topic on this interstellar messaging system goes, was in fact made by myself on page two.
I must retire for my evening prayers but I will address this point to clear up any confusion. You called it "privateering" on page 2 which was I believe a subconscious attempt on your part to sugar-coat your sin and make it more agreeable to those reading. The word I was looking at was PIRACY which you used here on page 5. If I missed that word by you on a previous page I apologize however it is late.
As I said I will say a prayer for you tonight and hope you will answer in the affirmative the question I asked about where you will go once FW has ended and Amarr is victorious. Will you continue to serve Amarr and God? I certainly hope so.
Good night and God Bless all the brave warriors who help serve our Empire in many varied ways.
Archbishop
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Arkanis
Caldari Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 01:51:00 -
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We do not serve anyone but The Rubyor.
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Shad0wsFury
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 02:03:00 -
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return to our life of piracy?
What would make you think we ever left it?
We fight for the Amarr Empire, but pirates we are still.
I revel in forcibly removing people's pods from their ships by whatever weapons are available to me, and profiting from their smoldering wreakage when I can.
I kill without mercy, pity or remorse, at my will, and the only exceptions I make are for our staunchest allies.
I do not, however, shoot militia members without good cause or without a proper wardec. The reason why is that we are all fighting a common enemy in the Mimitar Republic, and so long as I am within the zone of current combat operations the trigger is not pulled on what would normally be my targets.
I'll say it again, though after it's been said so many times, I doubt it'll sink in: shooting people fighting for your cause, despite their disposition towards piracy, is counterproductive and does NOT support your faction. "For the greater good" is not an excuse applicable here, because the Empire IS the greater good, and you are doing direct harm to it by shooting at it's just combatants. You harm the Empire you hold so dearly with your actions, while at the same time you spout how devoutly loyal and righteous you are. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.06 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Shad0wsFury return to our life of piracy?
What would make you think we ever left it?
We fight for the Amarr Empire, but pirates we are still.
I revel in forcibly removing people's pods from their ships by whatever weapons are available to me, and profiting from their smoldering wreakage when I can.
I kill without mercy, pity or remorse, at my will, and the only exceptions I make are for our staunchest allies.
I do not, however, shoot militia members without good cause or without a proper wardec. The reason why is that we are all fighting a common enemy in the Mimitar Republic, and so long as I am within the zone of current combat operations the trigger is not pulled on what would normally be my targets.
I'll say it again, though after it's been said so many times, I doubt it'll sink in: shooting people fighting for your cause, despite their disposition towards piracy, is counterproductive and does NOT support your faction. "For the greater good" is not an excuse applicable here, because the Empire IS the greater good, and you are doing direct harm to it by shooting at it's just combatants. You harm the Empire you hold so dearly with your actions, while at the same time you spout how devoutly loyal and righteous you are. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
God has a use for even the most base of His servants. Have you considered limiting your activities to those of a privateer?
I would suggest talking with the CVA, in private, not on these forums, about how to avoid each other and both work in your way towards the glory of the Empire.
I would also ask that all PIE pilots cease to post on this thread: this is not a matter for public grandstanding.
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Greme
Amarr Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
You called it "privateering" on page 2 which was I believe a subconscious attempt on your part to sugar-coat your sin and make it more agreeable to those reading. The word I was looking at was PIRACY which you used here on page 5. If I missed that word by you on a previous page I apologize however it is late.
A slip of the tongue, I must confess. So much of both privateering and piracy has been undertaken that to myself the lines have been blurred through the years.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.10.06 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I would also ask that all PIE pilots cease to post on this thread: this is not a matter for public grandstanding.
An interesting request after you have washed your dirty laundry for the savouring of public's eyes on previous 5 pages... Too late to try to hide the hypocrisy in your words and how the Amarr militia treat their own. It seems obvious that slackers now will know better how to deal with kinds like you.
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 06/10/2008 03:53:08
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I would also ask that all PIE pilots cease to post on this thread: this is not a matter for public grandstanding.
An interesting request after you have washed your dirty laundry for the savouring of public's eyes on previous 5 pages... Too late to try to hide the hypocrisy in your words and how the Amarr militia treat their own. It seems obvious that slackers now will know better how to deal with kinds like you.
Kind of like how you tried to hire Armada and SL against PIE and CVA because you're too much of a coward to do it yourself?
Fuck off Revan, when it comes to scraping the bottom of the barrel you've won the top honor. I have more respect for Minmatar filth than I do for you and your cryptic comments and pathetic attempts at playing cloak-and-dagger games.
Go find yourself a husband and make him a sandwich or something, there is no need for you to concern yourself in the affairs of men.
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Yendaj
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.06 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 06/10/2008 03:53:08
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I would also ask that all PIE pilots cease to post on this thread: this is not a matter for public grandstanding.
An interesting request after you have washed your dirty laundry for the savouring of public's eyes on previous 5 pages... Too late to try to hide the hypocrisy in your words and how the Amarr militia treat their own. It seems obvious that slackers now will know better how to deal with kinds like you.
Kind of like how you tried to hire Armada and SL against PIE and CVA because you're too much of a coward to do it yourself?
Fuck off Revan, when it comes to scraping the bottom of the barrel you've won the top honor. I have more respect for Minmatar filth than I do for you and your cryptic comments and pathetic attempts at playing cloak-and-dagger games.
Go find yourself a husband and make him a sandwich or something, there is no need for you to concern yourself in the affairs of men.
Thats because of the respect we have for you back again, knowing full well a quality pod pilot has a damn sight more intelligence than the likes of her that tries to play people off against each other because in the past god knows how many years shes never managed to learn how to pilot a ship herself..
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Horatio Nately
Caldari 808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.10.06 07:33:00 -
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posting in another 'zomg cva shot me' thread ---------------------------------------
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Ratio Legis
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Keiko Kobayashi I am sad to see that an incident concerning a single pilot who has, in all honesty, deserved to get shot at, would need to turn into a 4-page flamefest.
Because it took you 4 pages of nonsensical attempts to justify your idiocy before you even gave a straight statement of your position - confirming said idiocy is going to go on.
Originally by: Keiko Kobayashi If the concerned parties wish to resolve matters, and perhaps avoid incidents like these in the future, they should initiate diplomatic efforts. Otherwise, CVA policy is clear, all involved parties are and were informed about this, so there should be no surprise here.
Targeting reticule is our diplomacy. You fail to realize that nobody here is asking you to stop shooting us. It's your idiotic policy we are challenging, since it amounts to nothing more than shooting Amarr militia in the foot. Target your own effort back against yourselves as well, since you fight the pilots you claim to give hardware to, while they are fighting the Amarr war for you while you sit in your cynojammed heaven and count your isk.
Originally by: Keiko Kobayashi Had the red pilot been traveling with a gang of friendly forces, the situation may have been handled differently; CVA lauds the militiaĘs efforts and does not wish to disturb them. However this was not the case and from our perspective, this kill was thus one more on that dayĘs list of achievements towards making the Empire a safer place. The fact that some militia operation was mildly disturbed is an unfortunate by-product, but with the situation as it is, these incidents can happen from time to time.
Again you insinuate that somehow your pilots could not have known an Amarr militia pilot traveling in hostile territory in a combat ship could have actually been fighting the Minmatar. The counterproductivity of shooting Amarr forces in a warzone full of Minmatar is not a matter of perspective. Your whiny attempts to downplay the impact of the disruption you caused are pathetic. "But we only shot a LITTLE of our own militia, it must be ok, no?"
Originally by: Keiko Kobayashi IĘd say the CVA perspective has been made clear, and that there is no use in further discussion or flaming from Slackers or Minmatar scum.
Yes, you have made it perfectly clear that you are placing your own interests above the interests of the Amarr, and that you intend to continue to do so. You have made it clear that you will continue to hinder the Amarr war effort and that you are in this no different than the Minmatar curs our militia fights all day long. You have made it crystal clear that your claims of involvement with the cause of the Amarr is a convenient pose only. There was in fact use of the discussion, since now everyone can see from the statement of your position that CVA is a herd of profiteering hypocrites, no different than any random null sec alliance out there.
Thank you for clearing this out for us. You can go now.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.10.06 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 06/10/2008 11:55:33
Originally by: Righteous Fury Go find yourself a husband
When it comes to select the part you fail most, that's the one. Obviously the whole galnet knows why. 
Now, regarding your little break down nervous post, I'll reply to you while watching my favourite jester stalker and thread between the amarr eating themselves and getting making themselves the joke of the universe because of it.
Never meet an armada captain, didn't have the pleasure yet. So I must have acquired Jamyl's telepathic powers to have induced him to work for me, of course I will gladly the honour. Lovely. Regarding your own organization, meet a very polite gentleman. I have sent him a mail to contact me in case he would be back to mercenary business. Honey, not your privilege, I have contacted many of them to announce my return and get their schedules for the coming year. Just a tip for you baby, that's what I do since years and years ago. Get a time update on this little skull of yours
So said gentleman opened a private comm relay with me and we discussed exactly that, your plans and possibilities.
Actually, I'm surprised that you have mention it here, I consider ax extreme lack of decorum against your own people to start with because a simple detail:
[ 2008.10.05 16:01:20 ] Greme > (before we start, I am new to the world of IGS etc, so could you explain more about your character + beliefs + supports etc =) ) [ 2008.10.05 16:01:39 ] Revan Neferis > sure thing lets talk ooc here than ok? [ 2008.10.05 16:01:50 ] Greme > yar :)
* shakes her head * What a lack of judgement you have... Anyway, I think it's quite clear and I won't dwell into this here out of respect.
( sorry but I don't use ooc talks for rp purposes. Simply too low to my standards)
To the matters of interest. About hiring you against CVA, was never mentioned, must be another telepathic implant interference of yours. My question to him was very clear: he would be hired against the Amarr militia. It escaped me that CVA is Amarr Militia. On top of exposing your ignorance by breaching private comms that your own men was seeking, you even need lie to make a point?
I'll expose this because of this remark: [ 2008.10.05 16:07:16 ] Greme > Righty ho, back to IC and let's hear it?
[ 2008.10.05 16:12:15 ] Greme > may I enquire as to who you would mark for such a mercenary venture? [ 2008.10.05 16:13:09 ] Revan Neferis > My proposal in this regard is almost obvious. I am asking you to turn against the amarr militia and fight a freedom war. the target would be a main amarr militia corp
Who mention PIE is again your man
[ 2008.10.05 16:14:45 ] Greme > Infact we have already recieved several requests from persons who I shall not name, offering us substantial rewards to wardec the PIE corporation [ 2008.10.05 16:15:14 ] Revan Neferis > /emote nods > would it be something you would consider? [ 2008.10.05 16:15:28 ] Greme > though I must state that this was before the current turn of events and we rejected the offers [ 2008.10.05 16:15:47 ] Greme > Indeed, everything is worth considering, for any amount of time
Anyway, To me makes no difference. This breach of decorum of your part, simply shows that you can not only have the respect of your militia, from cva and now perhaps a warning for those alliances who would think to have your mercenary services hired, I'm sure to have a word about this. It would be entertaining , the minimum, but I'll just pick someone else to do the job, as I always do, when i feel convenient.
Now, I'll continue amusing myself with your public display.
( using ooc... . learn to rp )
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Greme
Amarr Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.06 12:15:00 -
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The offer was worth considering, because, in the great scheme of things, every offer is worth considering. Whether the offer is even given the smallest piece of thought before being declined however is another story.
The discussion thread in our own directorship forums contains many posts, one of which I shall enter here:
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...I don't know why we should screw [the militia] over... Considering the past between ourselves and Wraithstorm. Armada have been very good with us...
So as you can see, the offer has been clearly and formally declined.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.10.06 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 06/10/2008 12:21:04
Originally by: Greme The offer was worth considering, because, in the great scheme of things, every offer is worth considering. Whether the offer is even given the smallest piece of thought before being declined however is another story.
The discussion thread in our own directorship forums contains many posts, one of which I shall enter here:
Quote:
...I don't know why we should screw [the militia] over... Considering the past between ourselves and Wraithstorm. Armada have been very good with us...
So as you can see, the offer has been clearly and formally declined.
As any mercenary corp of self respect knows, this is between the client and the alliance or corp offered the service. Even post things that pertains of your own director area is of bad taste. I'm sure that alliances that would think to hire your services will think twice now, considering that you will breach the verey core term of mercenary business wich is privacy of business between themselves and their clients. But your prerogative.
And I won't discuss this any further because I consider that you have breached too many areas of respect by simply using a communication that shouldn't be here.
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