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Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.09.30 16:11:00 - [1] Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 30/09/2008 16:14:01 Up at the top left of this page, CCP keeps a lot of player resources handy. Some are genuinely useful - the tracking guide, for example, is excellent. Some are less useful, and probably the most egregious of these is the Item Database. Keeping this updated would, in a sensible world, take exactly zero effort - you update your item database on the Tranquility servers, and it dumps it straight to the website automatically. However, not only is it not updated automatically, it's not updated at all. Look on the Item Database for Marauders, Jump Freighters, or the other Trinity ships - they're not there. Look at the Amarrian ships updated in the boost patch months ago - they're still listed as their old versions. It looks like the last time it was updated was Revelations II, which came out in July 2007. There is also a plethora of information there that is either useless or actively misleading to new players - thrust strength is an interesting window into design paths not taken, but it should not be on a site that is most likely to be checked by the newest players. Finally, and most annoyingly, there is no sorting whatsoever done. It's not alphabetical, it's not in order of most used to least, it's not in order of ship sizes, it's just random. I would like to see the following changes made to the item database: - Keep it up to date at all times. - Remove all information with no game effect. - Sort all pages alphabetically. Having a database that's easily accessible and with URLs is convenient, and it should be made as useful as it could be. A third-party skill monitor having a better-maintained item database than the official website is embarrassing, and this should be fixed.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.09.30 16:11:00 - [2] Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 30/09/2008 16:14:01 Up at the top left of this page, CCP keeps a lot of player resources handy. Some are genuinely useful - the tracking guide, for example, is excellent. Some are less useful, and probably the most egregious of these is the Item Database. Keeping this updated would, in a sensible world, take exactly zero effort - you update your item database on the Tranquility servers, and it dumps it straight to the website automatically. However, not only is it not updated automatically, it's not updated at all. Look on the Item Database for Marauders, Jump Freighters, or the other Trinity ships - they're not there. Look at the Amarrian ships updated in the boost patch months ago - they're still listed as their old versions. It looks like the last time it was updated was Revelations II, which came out in July 2007. There is also a plethora of information there that is either useless or actively misleading to new players - thrust strength is an interesting window into design paths not taken, but it should not be on a site that is most likely to be checked by the newest players. Finally, and most annoyingly, there is no sorting whatsoever done. It's not alphabetical, it's not in order of most used to least, it's not in order of ship sizes, it's just random. I would like to see the following changes made to the item database: - Keep it up to date at all times. - Remove all information with no game effect. - Sort all pages alphabetically. Having a database that's easily accessible and with URLs is convenient, and it should be made as useful as it could be. A third-party skill monitor having a better-maintained item database than the official website is embarrassing, and this should be fixed. ------------------ Fix the forums!
Tmarte Explora Empire	Posted - 2008.09.30 16:12:00 - [3] Most definitely supported. Sitting at work doing nothing but browsing the item database since I can't play EvE there, and realizing it's about1 year out of date at least.
Tmarte Explora Empire	Posted - 2008.09.30 16:12:00 - [4] Most definitely supported. Sitting at work doing nothing but browsing the item database since I can't play EvE there, and realizing it's about1 year out of date at least.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.01 12:09:00 - [5] There's no point in having a database if the information in it is wrong. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
fuze Chosen Path Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.10.01 12:36:00 - [6] There are good alternatives to be found. But if they don't bother to keep it up to date they better should remove it.
Another Forum'Alt	Posted - 2008.10.01 13:01:00 - [7] Meh, either update it or remove it. I don't use it, but having it out of date isn't good. This is not part of my sig.
Jin Labarre	Posted - 2008.10.01 16:36:00 - [8] Agreed
Angel Kesh	Posted - 2008.10.06 13:57:00 - [9]
Molock Saronen	Posted - 2008.10.06 15:42:00 - [10]

LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2008.10.08 11:26:00 - [11] I think this is a good issue. Third-party tools for this are much better. That can't be right indeed. I will see when I can fit this into a meeting.
Padanemi	Posted - 2008.10.08 11:40:00 - [12] signed.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.10.08 16:10:00 - [13] Originally by: LaVista Vista I think this is a good issue. Third-party tools for this are much better. That can't be right indeed. I will see when I can fit this into a meeting. Thank you. ------------------ Herschel's Lottery #1 - Win a Kronos!
Rin Ji	Posted - 2008.10.08 20:34:00 - [14] Yet another support <img src="http://stat.rumandmonkey.com/tests/9/9/6199/25764.jpg" title="Industrialist with teeth" alt="Industrialist with teeth" border="0" />
Athre The Higher Standard	Posted - 2008.10.08 22:59:00 - [15]
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2008.10.31 21:22:00 - [16] Here's the submission template: Quote: Item database needs updating In many cases, itÆs quite useful to be able to look up statistics about a ship out of game. The item database is great for that. However, for the longest time it hasnÆt been updated. This is a big shame. ThereÆs several things that the community would like to see happen with the item database: òIt needs to be updated with the newest information at all times òOnly show information that has ingame effect. òSort all pages alphabetically Relevant forum thread òhttp://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=886139 Game/Forum/etc. area(s) affected Area Effect Information sourcesIt will make it much easier to get information from out game. Pros òIt will make it easier to use the item database òIt will make it USEFUL to use the item database, as it will be up to date. CSM Recommendation/Request to CCP / Further information required òPlease implement the changes put forward
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.11.01 03:31:00 - [17] Originally by: LaVista Vista Here's the submission template: Quote: Item database needs updating In many cases, itÆs quite useful to be able to look up statistics about a ship out of game. The item database is great for that. However, for the longest time it hasnÆt been updated. This is a big shame. ThereÆs several things that the community would like to see happen with the item database: òIt needs to be updated with the newest information at all times òOnly show information that has ingame effect. òSort all pages alphabetically Relevant forum thread òhttp://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=886139 Game/Forum/etc. area(s) affected Area Effect Information sourcesIt will make it much easier to get information from out game. Pros òIt will make it easier to use the item database òIt will make it USEFUL to use the item database, as it will be up to date. CSM Recommendation/Request to CCP / Further information required òPlease implement the changes put forward Now this I like. Can we get the CSM to do this for every thread that they take on?
Bunyip Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.11.01 11:28:00 - [18] Originally by: LaVista Vista Sort all pages alphabetically Not too sure about this one, but a search feature would be nice. /signed -Bunyip "May all your hits be crits." - Knights of the Dinner Table.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.11.01 11:54:00 - [19] Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 01/11/2008 11:54:38 Originally by: Bunyip Originally by: LaVista Vista Sort all pages alphabetically Not too sure about this one, but a search feature would be nice. /signed Why not? Look at the Ships page, say - would you prefer the order of Capital Industrial Ships, Battlecruisers, Destroyers, Heavy Assault Ships, etc., or the order of Assault Ship, Battlecruiser, Battleship, Black Ops, etc.? I know which one I find easier to navigate. And yes, this page needs a better search function.

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