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Blanche Genevre
Gallente
Top Guns Inc.
StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:37:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
As far as I can understand, CVA, PIE and CCCP together have been the ones trying to disrupt the good line of communications about what is happening.
That is certainly not my intention. In order to avoid any further confusion on the matter, I will refrain from posting here except in response to points aimed directly at me. However, I urge you to put Neferis' comments in the context of her previous activities.
I'm considering all parts involved and my opinion is based on the fact that it's hard to understand the subject when there are so many disruptions. I didn't need to spend time following your link that turned out to be nothing related to the history of what is been spoken. If this is an important announcement, I'd like try to understand it without the bickering backstabing in between.
thank you.
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Arelius Sarum
Amarr
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:45:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
And wouldn't those subjects be subjects of Empire Proportion and already analyzed by Empire Officers ? And if still they have decided that Jamyl is the Empress to be, does it mean that we are watching Loyalists turning against their betters and questioning their decisions? Also are we watching capsuleers trying to take matters of the State to their own hands?
Also followed by the disappearnce of former Court Chamberlain and several Speakers of Truth. The most plausible explanation would be Jamyl is attempting to silence the opposition. I'm loyal to the Empire as a whole, not a person with shady character.
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So mote it be, amen.
That is exactly what Amarr needs now.
Good to know your need and love for tyranny.
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I haven't seen this declaration from Court Chamberlain... but it's amusing to read such from a capsuleer self declared loyalist.
Of course, those who oppose her need to consider her new weapon, and mysteriously disappearing from sight.
Per Ardua ad Astra - Through Adversity, to the Stars
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Amira Silvermist
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:55:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
... specially from a pilot that I have taken under my wings on her first days at academy, when she would fly under my fleet with a punisher at Aegis Militia wars against the gallente and Tetrimon reclaiming...
*laughs*
Nice try little one...
My first war was against the Terrorist "Wings of Maak", I was flying Crucifiers back then and that "person" you pretend to be was certainly not my senior, quite far from it. We started out in the same unit as recruits in AMs "Bashi" project and she was a good comrade in arms till she unfortunately went insane.
But one probably cant expect better intel from an impostor with such a bad taste...
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:59:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Arelius Sarum
Also followed by the disappearnce of former Court Chamberlain and several Speakers of Truth. The most plausible explanation would be Jamyl is attempting to silence the opposition. I'm loyal to the Empire as a whole, not a person with shady character.
Shady character? One more compliment with a loyalist seal to gree the new Empress to be? This keeps getting better and better.
Originally by: Arelius Sarum
Good to know your need and love for tyranny.
Why, thank you kindly. But was this ever any sort of secret around here? Or maybe you were expecting a True Amarr , Sani Sabik to hail "LibertT, FraternitT, EqualitT?"? * smiles shaking her head again *
Originally by: Arelius Sarum
Of course, those who oppose her need to consider her new weapon, and mysteriously disappearing from sight.
If that be true, Hailthe Empress to be! And may I not fall in love with her! * raises an eyebrow at her last comment and waves dismissively to the camera *
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:01:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Amira Silvermist
that "person" you pretend to be
Yeap, whatever rocks your boat dear.
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Aleczander Kerr
Vigilia Valeria Expeditionary Forces
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:18:00 -
[96]
I would not be surprised if an inquisition was started following the coronation.
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Blanche Genevre
Gallente
Top Guns Inc.
StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:29:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Amira Silvermist
Another bunch of insults and disruptive stuff
And yet another loyalist joins the list of the ones who wants to disrupt the good flow of communications regarding the coronation.
So much for decorum and amarr victor. Hypocrisy have a new name. Congratz you bunch. You're really doing a good image for your cause.
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:46:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
I would hate if Jamyl declares herself a Blood raider. As it is well known, the Blood raider sect have their specific ways of interpretation of the Sani Sabik ideology and it's contrary from the Bloodveil sect in many ways.
So I hope that you are right in this aspect.
The core Sani Sabik tenets include blooding of those in lesser positions of power for the glory of those above them. When combined with the Amarrian interest in long life, this resulted in horrid and ineffectual rituals. Your passionate belief in what amounts to the animalistic side of human nature is not entirely unfounded but you refuse to see how that is incorporated in the current scriptures. With Jamyl in power, perhaps you will realize that being loyal to the existing families and ways of doing things is not as decadent and weak as you think it is.
The human spirit is a fierce and powerful source of energy, quick to burn others and quicker to burn out. The fortress of Amarrian culture sternly harnesses this energy and makes it so much more than it otherwise would be.
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Inara Subaka
Caldari
the united
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:55:00 -
[99]
*Inara's channel opens with audio only*
My apologies, but I'm currently being wired into my pod, and don't feel like exposing myself to the universe at large.
I may be no expert in the ways of the Empire, I only spent a small amount of time within their borders, but I do remember quite well that it was not a democracy. There is no need for the government to answer to it's people, yet that is exactly what many loyalists are demanding.
Perhaps someone could clarify how they feel they are justified to question those in authority when they don't live within the bleeding heart Federation?
*a few soft beeps can be heard before Inara continues*
Here it is, an empire is a state that extends dominion over populations distinct culturally and ethnically from the culture/ethnicity at the center of power; it's a monarchy with an emperor as head of state. And I'm sure we all know a monarchy is a form of government in which supreme power is actually or nominally lodged in an individual, who is the head of state, often for life or until abdication, and "is wholly set apart from all other members of the state."
Wholly set apart... by living in the system you do, you accept that the ruling body is the law and they are right. The people within an Empire have no say in governmental concerns... in fact, I would go as far as to repeat something I've said in other conversations: to live in the Empire, is to live in slavery. Not only the Matari that are held in bonds, but the Holders themselves, are slaves.
*A scoffing noise is heard*
Insolence like this would never be accepted from those under me. May your new Mistress' lash find your back once she takes the throne.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:06:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Revan Neferis on 26/09/2008 20:09:28
Originally by: Inara Subaka
Insolence like this would never be accepted from those under me. May your new Mistress' lash find your back once she takes the throne.
I love your Style lady.
Now Mr Avel, I'll refrain to speak much about Blood Raiders and Sani Sabik here as to not derail the thread any further than your loyalists has done already as pointed by one of the pilots. Suffice to say that I also find this blood cutting and lashing disgusting and I consider it as a wrong interpretation of the Apocrypha.
Blood is sacred for true Amarrians and shouldn't be treated as such.
So no, Sani Sabik Ideology of many sects doesn't embrace such practices. Mine, included.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:29:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 26/09/2008 20:29:28
It's ironic that you and Rodj Blake are arguing, Revan - for once, I'm actually going to have to side with the old bastard. They've been doing the whole Imperial Loyalist thing far longer than you have - which is to say, they've been Imperial Loyalists. You're nothing but an anaemic, petty little social vampire who's desperately trying to ingratiate yourself with Jamyl Sarum in a pathetic attempt to snatch some relevance for a world which would otherwise soon forget you.
I've argued with Blake, I've fought with Blake - Revan, you're no Rodj Blake. For one thing, he can handle a warship. For all his faults, for all his misanthropy and mendacity, he's at least a competent fighter and has at least a tiny bit of relevance to current events. You don't even have that going for you.
Yes, that's right, I - Andreus Ixiris - just spoke favourably of Rodj Blake when comparing him with you. That's how pathetic you are.
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Blanche Genevre
Gallente
Top Guns Inc.
StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.26 21:04:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Blanche Genevre on 26/09/2008 21:07:16
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
bunch of crap
Aren't you the same Revan's stalker from all the other threads? Is it possible that you're not able to post anything constructive at IGS at all?
It starts to be so apparent to us readers, that you might need psiquiatric help to get over this. As much as may find the term stalking to be fitting you as a glove, stalking is defined as the willful, malicious and repeated following and harassing of another person.
And that's the only thing you have been doing.
Get a grip and save us from reading your mental disturbances and personal problems. If you have something against the person you are stalking, go pew pew or wash your frustrations at CAOD if you can take the heat.
Now can we get back to the Coronation? thanks.
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Camperific
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.09.26 22:09:00 -
[103]
A new Empress who ignore's the scriptures and has the Sani Sabik vote of confidence.....Whoopie 'effin doo.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.09.26 22:09:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Aren't you the same Revan's stalker from all the other threads?
Aren't you the same Revan's pathetic, mewling sycophant/sockpuppet from all the other threads?
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Is it possible that you're not able to post anything constructive at IGS at all?
Quite the contrary - that would be the magisterium of your false idol.
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
It starts to be so apparent to us readers, that you might need psiquiatric help to get over this.
Right, because I'm obviously going to take advice on mental competency from someone who can't spell "psychiatric" right. And to be honest, I don't really give a fedo what "you readers" think about me. That's a hell of aa weasel word anyway. I think you'll find very few credible people supporting Revan's cause. When PIE Inc. starts blasting people for being too ridiculous...
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
As much as may find the term stalking to be fitting you as a glove, stalking is defined as the willful, malicious and repeated following and harassing of another person.
And that's the only thing you have been doing.
Firstly - I'm sorry, what? "As much as may find the term stalking to be fitting you as a glove"? Is there an issue with your translation software or is it simply unable to compensate for your abyssmal command of language?
Stalking - "Stalking is the obsessive following, observing, or contacting of another person, or the obsessive attempt to engage in any of these activities. This includes following the person to certain places, to see where they live or what the person does on a daily basis, it also includes seeking and obtaining the person's personal information in order to contact him or her; e.g. looking for his or her details on computers, electoral rolls, personal files and other material containing the person's private information without his or her consent."
For it to be stalking, it requires that I be obsessed, which I'm clearly not, as I would otherwise find little time for pursuits such as making money and running my corporation - and I'm sure any member of my corporation you care to ask will assure you that this is not the case. Rodj Blake has repeatedly argued with Revan on this thread, and yet I see no accusations flying around there. Actually, to be honest - you've contacted me in almost every thread I've argued with Revan in. I think you're stalking me.
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Get a grip and save us from reading your mental disturbances and personal problems.
Oh, the hilarity - the sycophant of a psychotic attention wh**e who thinks she's God is lecturing me about "mental disturbances and personal problems".
Everything you and Revan say just gets more and more hilarious.
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Blanche Genevre
Gallente
Top Guns Inc.
StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.26 22:30:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Blanche Genevre on 26/09/2008 22:32:38
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Aren't you the same Revan's pathetic, mewling sycophant/sockpuppet from all the other threads?
No, I'm just someone able to interact with everyone here without the need of harrasing or disrupting anyone's enjoyment.
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Is it possible that you're not able to post anything constructive at IGS at all?
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Quite the contrary - that would be the magisterium of your false idol.
Her threads have been very polite and entertaining to the IGS community and as a newcomer I can tell you that the only disruption here have been your constant harrassement.
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
It starts to be so apparent to us readers, that you might need psiquiatric help to get over this.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Right, because I'm obviously going to take advice on mental competency from someone who can't spell "psychiatric" right.
Maybe I can't spell psychiatric right, but at least I have the psichiatric control that you obviously lack.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
For it to be stalking, it requires that I be obsessed, which I'm clearly not
Which you clearly are. Obsessed and lacking any kind of respect to IGS readers who would like to follow the storyline or event or plot they wish without such personal disturbances.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
attention wh**e
bypassing profanity filter to make a point now?
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.09.26 22:57:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
No, I'm just someone able to interact with everyone here without the need of harrasing or disrupting anyone's enjoyment.
As it happens, you are disrupting my enjoyment - it troubles me when I stop to think that there are indeed some humans stupid enough to fall for Revan's transparent bluffs and bluster.
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Her threads have been very polite and entertaining to the IGS community and as a newcomer I can tell you that the only disruption here have been your constant harrassement.
I am not sure what your definitions of "polite" or "entertaining" are, but I'm assuming they're something like "condescending mental incompetent" and "paint drying on a cold day", respectively. I imagine you think you're being polite.
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Maybe I can't spell psychiatric right, but at least I have the psichiatric control that you obviously lack.
IT WAS RIGHT THERE! "PSYCHIATRIC" WAS RIGHT THERE! YOU ACTUALLY TYPED IT RIGHT ONCE! HOW COULD YOU SCREW IT UP AGAIN?!
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Which you clearly are. Obsessed and lacking any kind of respect to IGS readers who would like to follow the storyline or event or plot they wish without such personal disturbances.
Ah, I see the problem. You assume that threads on the IGS are sacrosanct and private, and that it's rude to interject with one's own personal opinion on a matter. Well, girl, the universe is a cruel bastard and so is the IGS. If you don't like what I have to say - tough. That's right, tough. Deal with it. If you think that you have some sort of right on the IGS to see only things that you like, I've got some news which will no doubt leave an unbelievably sour taste in that condescending, sneering little mouth of yours - you don't.
If I had my way there'd be not one single pro-slavery capsuleer on the IGS, nor would there be pirates, Heth-supporters, Sanshas, or, indeed, 90% of the people you see around here, and to be quite frank I think if any one capsuleer had their way, almost all of us wouldn't have a voice. You should be most grateful that no-one does have their way, and that you may voice your petty little opinions, in defiance of all common sense and propriety. But do not assume that simply because you have a right to say what you like that you have a right to hear what you like.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from speech. And anyone who can't come to grips with that fact? Damn right I have no respect for them.
Now, as for being obsessed - well, if you won't believe my word when I say I'm not obsessed, it's quite clear you'll never believe anyone else's, so I won't bother trying to convince you. Such strongly held delusions are a waste of effort to try and dislodge.
I leave you with this thought - why would you get so angry if what I say is false?
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Veron Daerth
Amarr
Blood Meridian
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Posted - 2008.09.26 23:06:00 -
[107]
You know... I find Andreus' communications usually to be... hmmm...
Well, somewhat infuriating, usually annoying, definitely something to raise my blood pressure, and after I have thought them out and actually read them, highly entertaining and SOMETIMES even <gasp> yes, thought provoking in some strange way. Without the Andreuses of the universe, things would be a bit less bright, if for no other reason than we didnt have someone to make us so damned irritated.
Consequently, I think its a bit unfair to paste the labels on Andreus that you have. We all can be a bit ... strident at times, and can get a bit shrill when pushed. Perhaps he goes a bit further then others would, but then again, its a free world, no?
May God grant you Wisdom, Pilots.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.09.26 23:17:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Veron Daerth
Perhaps he goes a bit further then others would, but then again, its a free world, no?
My point exactly. Thank you, sir.
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CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Blanche Genevre
Gallente
Top Guns Inc.
StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.26 23:23:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
As it happens, you are disrupting my enjoyment - it troubles me when I stop to think that there are indeed some humans stupid enough to fall for Revan's transparent bluffs and bluster.
If I were to disrupt your enjoyment I would enter your threads, your events and your posts with the same posture that you have entered this one for example, without adding anything constructive to the discussion, without adding even a little piece of information to new pilots and bypassing profanity filters to pretend you can talk dirty and be a big man this way.
So no, you are disrrupting my enjoyment because I came here to read and learn about the event and found once more you using IGS communications to your pernal needs of harrassement.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
I am not sure what your definitions of "polite" or "entertaining" are, but I'm assuming they're something like "condescending mental incompetent" and "paint drying on a cold day", respectively. I imagine you think you're being polite.
I'll help you with that. Polite is for example not trying to bypass a profanity filter in this forum. Something that you have done. Entertaining is when you can sit down and relax and participate in a community with stories and such without having to be assaulted everytime by a bunch of communications like yours.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
IT WAS RIGHT THERE! "PSYCHIATRIC" WAS RIGHT THERE! YOU ACTUALLY TYPED IT RIGHT ONCE! HOW COULD YOU SCREW IT UP AGAIN?!
You still miss the point that no matter how the word is spelled to your standards, I still have the psychiatric control that you lack.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Ah, I see the problem. You assume that threads on the IGS are sacrosanct and private, and that it's rude to interject with one's own personal opinion on a matter. Well, girl, the universe is a cruel bastard and so is the IGS. If you don't like what I have to say - tough. That's right, tough. Deal with it. If you think that you have some sort of right on the IGS to see only things that you like, I've got some news which will no doubt leave an unbelievably sour taste in that condescending, sneering little mouth of yours - you don't.
If I had my way there'd be not one single pro-slavery capsuleer on the IGS, nor would there be pirates, Heth-supporters, Sanshas, or, indeed, 90% of the people you see around here, and to be quite frank I think if any one capsuleer had their way, almost all of us wouldn't have a voice. You should be most grateful that no-one does have their way, and that you may voice your petty little opinions, in defiance of all common sense and propriety. But do not assume that simply because you have a right to say what you like that you have a right to hear what you like.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from speech. And anyone who can't come to grips with that fact? Damn right I have no respect for them.
Now, as for being obsessed - well, if you won't believe my word when I say I'm not obsessed, it's quite clear you'll never believe anyone else's, so I won't bother trying to convince you. Such strongly held delusions are a waste of effort to try and dislodge.
I leave you with this thought - why would you get so angry if what I say is false?
No, I just assume that IGS threads as any area of this forum is a place where pilots can read, learn and understand about eve story and eventually even get involved with what's happening. What I don't assume is that IGS or any other area of this forum is a place for pilots to harrass others because their psychiatric disturbances, obsessions and unresolved issues.
If you tell me that IGS is not a private quarter, don't use it as such.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.09.27 00:22:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
What I don't assume is that IGS or any other area of this forum is a place for pilots to harrass others because their psychiatric disturbances, obsessions and unresolved issues.
So I'm presuming you haven't really read any threads on the IGS, then? That's precisely what the IGS is, all the time. Your beloved Revan, in both her incarnations, is/was an absolute master of using it as such. Perhaps you should do a little research next time.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.09.27 00:59:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Veron Daerth
Perhaps he goes a bit further then others would, but then again, its a free world, no?
May God grant you Wisdom, Pilots.
Ah Miss Genevre, it pains me to say that Mr. Veron there is right. What are you trying to do Miss Genevre, depriving me of my personal stalker? Now now, this would be a sad state of affairs, wouldn't it?
Miss Genevre, come omboard the Caesura when you return and I'll teach you a thing or two about how to breed a stalker and take good care of it. It's very easy once your learn, i'ts almost as easy as a slave or slaver hound with the exception that you don't need to spend isk with vitoc for them. Once you set them on, they will keep going.
The secret is just to annoy them enough. 
Don't be upset beautiful gallentean. 
But again, back to topic:
Originally by: Camperific
A new Empress who ignore's the scriptures and has the Sani Sabik vote of confidence.....Whoopie 'effin doo.
She has all the rights to ignore the scriptures. Nothing says that those are the true scriptures anyway.
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2008.09.27 01:53:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Sepherim on 27/09/2008 01:56:02
Miss Genevre, if I may say so, Mr Ixiris has been doing the same thing over and over on all the IGS, on all topics and for all pilots. Don't think he's harrassing Miss Neferis any more than he has harrased... or exposed his opinions... the rest of us. So I must day that, in this chance and only this one, Mr Ixiris is right.
That I believe makes this thread a rather peculiar one. First Mr Ixiris speaks well of Lord Blake, and now I back him. This is getting rather strange.
As for the debate on the Scriptures, I don't think Miss Neferis is in this case an authority regarding them. Afterall, the Sani Sabik follow the Apocryphon, which basically means the "rejected book", or "unapoved book". Same as the Tetrimon. Of course, if she considered the Scriptures to be true, she wouldn't be Sani Sabik, so her words have no point in this.
On the other hand, the whola amarrian nation, exemplified in the Theology Council, has decided that we follow those Scriptures. Even if they weren't true, the fact is that they are what we believe in as a whole. For that, even if only for that, none of our rulers have the power nor the right to ignore them.
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Nicoletta Mithra
Amarr
Aretaic Turn
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Posted - 2008.09.27 01:57:00 -
[113]
I won't say much, just that I deem it appropriate to show patience and wait till the coronation speech is better now than wasting breath on words on this case.
To Madam Neferis I have to say the following:
Nihil nisi bene.
In your case:
Nihil.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.09.27 02:14:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Sepherim
Miss Genevre, if I may say so, Mr Ixiris has been doing the same thing over and over on all the IGS, on all topics and for all pilots. Don't think he's harrassing Miss Neferis any more than he has harrased... or exposed his opinions... the rest of us.
Explained this to her Sepherim, and after a few drinks with me at the Caesure I believe that we have found a good agreement about this case. Generally it's not unusual that a new pilot comes here and reacts as such. But than again, it'll take here just enough time to know how to deal with such trouble makers and learn to have fun with them.
I'm sure she'll get there.
Originally by: Sepherim
As for the debate on the Scriptures, I don't think Miss Neferis is in this case an authority regarding them. Afterall, the Sani Sabik follow the Apocryphon, which basically means the "rejected book", or "unapoved book". Same as the Tetrimon. Of course, if she considered the Scriptures to be true, she wouldn't be Sani Sabik, so her words have no point in this.
Never claimed to ahve authority over the scriptures, where did you take this from Keter? I merely stated that nothing says that it is the true scriptures and if you ask me, if Jamyl isn't following it says a lot about it's possible veracity.
Now you won't have me taking the words of blind capsuleers over Jamyl's decision, any day.
It's obvious that the true scriptures are the parts hidden into the Holy Apocrypha.
Originally by: Sepherim
On the other hand, the whola amarrian nation, exemplified in the Theology Council, has decided that we follow those Scriptures. Even if they weren't true, the fact is that they are what we believe in as a whole. For that, even if only for that, none of our rulers have the power nor the right to ignore them.
A decision that has taken the Empire to chaos and shame. Which No leader had the power to rectify it, thus far.
It seem to em that Jamyl will do just that.
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2008.09.27 02:21:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Never claimed to ahve authority over the scriptures, where did you take this from Keter? I merely stated that nothing says that it is the true scriptures and if you ask me, if Jamyl isn't following it says a lot about it's possible veracity.
Now you won't have me taking the words of blind capsuleers over Jamyl's decision, any day.
It's obvious that the true scriptures are the parts hidden into the Holy Apocrypha.
I didn't take it from your speech, was just pointing that fact out for those who may think that your position as one of the heads of the Sani Sabik faith gives you such power in all Amarr religion.
And of course, we will have to disagree on the Apocrypha.
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A decision that has taken the Empire to chaos and shame. Which No leader had the power to rectify it, thus far.
It seem to em that Jamyl will do just that.
That is your take on it. It has also taken the Amarr from Athra to the stars, and millions of souls to gather into one same regime. In the end, it is the path we chose to walk, wether right or wrong, we and our leaders have to find the answer. And for that, we have to walk through it until the end.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.09.27 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sepherim
I didn't take it from your speech, was just pointing that fact out for those who may think that your position as one of the heads of the Sani Sabik faith gives you such power in all Amarr religion.
And of course, we will have to disagree on the Apocrypha.
Ah ok, that sounds reasonable Keter of the Ordos. And it was a good clarification, as I'd hate to think anyone less informed having thoughts about me having anything to do with that false bunch of words from an unholy manipulated book that is used to keep the dirty amarrian politics in place and people submissive.
The True Amarr can recognize the truth within the Apocrypha. It calls for our souls and blood.
Originally by: Sepherim
That is your take on it. It has also taken the Amarr from Athra to the stars, and millions of souls to gather into one same regime. In the end, it is the path we chose to walk, wether right or wrong, we and our leaders have to find the answer. And for that, we have to walk through it until the end.
Yes but of course my take can only be the right one. Don't forget my take when I waged wars against Tetrimon to find the whole amarr perplexed just to discover that I was right at the end.
And of course I can only be right about Jamyl as well.
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.09.27 03:51:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Yes but of course my take can only be the right one. Don't forget my take when I waged wars against Tetrimon to find the whole amarr perplexed just to discover that I was right at the end.
And of course I can only be right about Jamyl as well.
It was long ago so my memory might be foggy, but weren't you begging for Horm's forgiveness at some point?
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2008.09.27 04:15:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Avel Kereka
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Yes but of course my take can only be the right one. Don't forget my take when I waged wars against Tetrimon to find the whole amarr perplexed just to discover that I was right at the end.
And of course I can only be right about Jamyl as well.
It was long ago so my memory might be foggy, but weren't you begging for Horm's forgiveness at some point?
The whole case was deeper than that loyalist. Grand Master Horm and I have had... business to finish. The information that I would actually kill him at the ruins of the city of God reached his ears before it should and that was the only reason why Horm cut his part on the deal and lived to further hurt the Empire. And you should thank your way dead frozen commander Graelyn for that.
The prize I would have gotten for his death was way more tempting than just negociating your surrender.
But do not stir that which should not be stired here pilot, specially regarding past dealings of your own alliance in this matter. Let teh dead rest, while Jamyl will rise.
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Blanche Genevre
Gallente
Top Guns Inc.
StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.27 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sepherim
Miss Genevre, if I may say so, Mr Ixiris has been doing the same thing over and over on all the IGS, on all topics and for all pilots. Don't think he's harrassing Miss Neferis any more than he has harrased... or exposed his opinions... the rest of us.
Man's just the case that calling him stupid would be an insult to stupid people. Diarrhea of the mouth, constipation of the ideas. Maybe he's just got a brain transplant and the brain rejected him!
Yo, I've got the picture.
And Revan, you've told me at the Caesura to not bother, that Andreus Ixiris is in fact a great asset. I continue to say that you were off by two letters.
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2008.09.28 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Neferis
Yes but of course my take can only be the right one. Don't forget my take when I waged wars against Tetrimon to find the whole amarr perplexed just to discover that I was right at the end.
And of course I can only be right about Jamyl as well.
That you once were right in something, doesn't mean you are right now in a completely different issue. The Sani Sabik was in no measure used to value the truth in the Tetrimon's claim, and so was not judged during the process. In any case, we all know the Sani Sabik is a heresy considered such by the Theology Council, so the truth or falseness in Lady Jamyl Sarum's right to being Empress does not depend in any way of the Sani Sabik faith.
In fact, if I may say so, Thrice Illustrious Leader of the Sani Sabik, your "support" of Lady Sarum can only harm her in all that has to do with the Empire.
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