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Gwenelle
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Posted - 2008.09.22 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: Gwenelle on 22/09/2008 19:10:43
First Slave Corporation (ticker symbol: FSCOR) was established in the Metropolis Region on 2008.09.15 19:59. Describing itself as, "a Minmatar-only group of low-sec miners and soldiers who encourage anti-Amarr sentiment at every turn", the corp's Founder and CEO known only as Gwenelle, further states corp objectives include, "educating young Matari on the dangers of associating with entrenched Amarrians in the region. Every day, a handful of Minmatar pilots who view working alongside slaveholders as a traitorous act; either join FSCOR directly, or pledge their financial support and undermine Amarrian influence within their own corporations.", she stated.
"Ten months ago", said Gwenelle, "when FSCOR was simply a shadow group of like-minded university students and aspiring academy cadets, we warned the Republic on the dangers of allowing Amarrians to continue to operate in Metropolis and Heimatar. In a speech delivered to the Intergallactic Summit on 2008.02.24 22:34:00, our group called for direct retaliation against Amarrians living or passing through The Minmatar Republic, and hinted at the inevitable return to Minmatar tribal rule. Much of what we said has come to pass. The dissolution of the corrupt, Galente-styled parliament is complete. Even former ambassador to Concord, Keitan Yun, had to conclude we are a people not easily led, and the tribal system thrived until the Amarr mercilessly attacked our nation. The ambassador called upon Sanmatar Maleatu Shakor to finish what he started, to unite the seven Matari tribes once again. Now, that is coming to pass as well."
But, according to FSCOR's CEO, the battle is not yet over. Gwenelle stated, "Now, we must purge Amarrians from our borders. We ask again; how can a Minmatar work alongside an Amarrian, when ONE THIRD OF ALL MATARI still feel the searing agony of the slave shockwhip on their backs? We must force the expulsion of any Amarrians within your corporations. You cannot trust the Amarr around you to be satisfied with exploiting our Republic's natural resources. Amarr loyalists hide within the ranks of your corp, and will soon leave your corporation's doors unlocked. Metropolis and Heimatar - CLEAN OUT YOUR CORPS NOW!"
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Eran Mintor
17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.09.22 19:20:00 -
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Race riots are not a good thing to encourage. Hate crimes are just as evil against the Amarr as they are against our own; you are only becoming that which you despise.
I hope not to hear of any more mis-guided individuals taking on the responsibility of judge, jury, and executioner. It sickens my heart to think of what happened to my friend, Mr. Yarn, and what could have been.
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BloodBird
Gallente
Tactical Freedom Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.22 19:46:00 -
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As CO-CEO of TACFA, I believe that my own CEO, a Brutor, and myself, are far better positioned to declare what is to be done with our own corp-members; Amarr or otherwise. You got quite the nerve to show up here and publicly state that you know what's best for an entire nation, and every capsuleer corporation in that nation.
Your kind show your ugly faces from time to time, racists and narrow-minded hate peddlers, advocating the destruction of this group or another, because they are, of course, the source of all your problems. This is the first time however one of you show the galls to tell the rest of us what we should do with our corp-mates.
If the Khanid in my corp decides to leave he's free to do so. If he wishes to stay and help out (he's been very good at that up until now) he's free to do so as well. I'm not going to do anything about it one way or another, just because you say so.
I'm inclined to believe nobody else will either.
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KillJoy Tseng
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.09.22 20:13:00 -
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Oh... "a shadow group of like-minded university students and aspiring academy cadets". I can't say that I'm surprised. A few words of advice; from looking at publicly available records... well, I'll just ask, what have you done for the Matari people? You have your freedom and the right to say what you want to, but comparing what you have actually done with someone like, for example, MirrorGod, why do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Actions speak louder than words and from all that I can tell of your actions, maam, I would be more apt to believe that many Khanid, Ni-Kunni or even Amarrians living in Minmatar space have our best interests in mind moreso than you do.
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MirrorGod
Heretic Militia
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Posted - 2008.09.22 20:17:00 -
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Please allow me to introduce myself, and by extension why well every tribal militia soldier would disagree.
My name is MirrorGod. Only weeks after setting off a bomb and hijacking a punisher at my graduation ceremony, I founded Heretic Army, now executor of Heretic Nation. Said alliance has a year of war and attacks against the empire and known allies and supporters.
My father was a khanid trader, my mother a brutor woman of Pator. Both dissenters, as you may guess.
To keep things short, I now find myself a fleet commander in the minmatar militia. And I'll speak from experience. One should incite rebellion, one should shout revolution; without a doubt, all should raise a fist in the air against the amarr empire. But to promote racism makes that person not only a hypocrite but it detracts from the cause itself.
Reconsider your position, pilot.
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.09.22 22:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Eran Mintor
you are only becoming that which you despise.
Isn't the inevitability of it just divine?
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.09.22 23:29:00 -
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No - you've got it all wrong. The important thing is to destroy Amarr society, not the ethnicity itself. I am fully in agreement with you that the Empire needs to be brought down, but part of that effort has to come from within the Empire itself. We must win over the common citizens of the Empire - who are so opressed by the ruling classes that they are barely better than slaves themselves - and doing that is going to be much harder when those ruling classes have abundant examples of calls for ethnic cleansing - just like the ones you're making.
There are Amarrians who, realising how debased and corrupt their culture really is, have abandoned it in favour of the State, the Republic, or, ideally, the Federation (I myself have two Khanid members, and they are, completely unlike the Imperialists you see on the IGS, polite, intelligent, competent and trustworthy). The Ushra'khan have many Amarrians, Ni-Kunni and Khanid among them, as well as some noncapsuleer Ealurians, and I believe there are at least a few Amarr among the Electus Matari as well. Our first priority with the Amarr should be to encourage this tendency - if it becomes widely known to the people of Amarr that there's a better way, they'll find their support scarce and their numbers dwindling. Even a society as antiquated, primitive and backward as the lumbering, tyrannical Empire can't survive if the great mass of the people are against it. Dictatorships are safe only as long as they work.
It's going to be harder to win the hearts and minds of the Amarr if we're needlessly massacring civilians all the time. It does tend to tick their kinsmen off.
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Garion Avarr
Amarr
Zero Zero Traders
YTMND.
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Posted - 2008.09.23 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Garion Avarr on 23/09/2008 00:08:56
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
. . . (I myself have two Khanid members, and they are, completely unlike the Imperialists you see on the IGS, polite, intelligent, competent and trustworthy). . . .
Ahem. If you would, please, like some of the Imperialists on the IGS.
That aside, Ixiris is quite correct in his words. While I am certainly devoted to the Empire, I would admit that reforms are needed -- my pimary motivation for the reforms, of course, is the betterment of the Empire, but they would incidentally make things easier for the Matari -- and people like you do no favor to the cause.
As long as people like you rave inanely, the hardliners will have plentiful ammunition with which to use against any attempts at reforms by more moderate groups. It is people like you (and, admitedly, your counterparts within the Empire) that have caused the continued strife between our peoples. If not for groups like yours, perhaps there would not have been a war causing needless suffering and destruction. Perhaps there might have been more reforms, more slaves volunterily freed by the Empire. Perhaps there would be better relations between our nations, more trade and econmic assistence. Perhaps your economy would not be as bad as it is. Perhaps Minmatar and Amarr might have taken a few more steps together to bring a better life to your people, without slavery.
But perhaps a better life for the Matari is not what you want. Perhaps you do not desire above all hope for the Minmatar. Perhaps it is not even to free your people that you desire. No, I wonder if all you really want is someone to hate, and a fight to fight. Because that is all you are working for, now -- hate, and your private little fight. Not freedom, not hope, and not a better life.
It is sad, and it is sad to see many others of your people fall to the same hate (not as sad, however, as when I see members of the Empire that stray, and I see them too often for my liking). But I am given hope to see all others who have replied take a stand against this. There may be hope for peace yet.
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Nuran Mukadder
Amarr
Athra Legio Triarii
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Posted - 2008.09.23 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Garion Avarr
But perhaps a better life for the Matari is not what you want. Perhaps you do not desire above all hope for the Minmatar. Perhaps it is not even to free your people that you desire. No, I wonder if all you really want is someone to hate, and a fight to fight. Because that is all you are working for, now -- hate, and your private little fight. Not freedom, not hope, and not a better life.
Can't express my suspicions better than you did, Mr. Avarr. I thank you for that.
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Arna Padrona
Amarr
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.23 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
No - you've got it all wrong. The important thing is to destroy Amarr society, not the ethnicity itself. I am fully in agreement with you that the Empire needs to be brought down, but part of that effort has to come from within the Empire itself. We must win over the common citizens of the Empire - who are so opressed by the ruling classes that they are barely better than slaves themselves - and doing that is going to be much harder when those ruling classes have abundant examples of calls for ethnic cleansing - just like the ones you're making.
It's rare to see such insight from one that has not lived this life. It fills my heart with hope that maybe, just maybe, there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
I understand the anger displayed by some of the matari, I really do, but what few people seem to realise is what us exiled Amarr have gone through. Waking up from the amarrian dream, force-fed to me through religious, political and feudal indoctrination was difficult enough in it's own right - and much more a result of lucky circumstances than my own doing. Once awake though, doing the right thing requires sacrifice beyond what any one person should have to go through.
Having relatives enslaved in Amarr is a horrible thing. I on the other hand have left my mother in Amarr, and I will never see or hear from her again. The only way my mother could salvage her station was to stand up and announce in public that "I have no daughter." Even then, the Ministry of Internal Order will watch everything she does until the day she dies. The ministry will monitor my old friends, my mothers friends, everything and everyone that's ever been in contact with me have been questioned and examined, and will continue to be watched for years.
I have surrendered everything to do what I believe is right, and being branded an amarrian loyalist purely based on the shape of my nose and where I was born is quite frankly offensive.
If our genes are to be the judge of where our loyalties lie, I advice you Gwenelle, to invite Scagga Laebetrovo into your inner circle. He should prove very loyal. He does after all have the right DNA.
Lance Commander Arna Padrona
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc.
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Veron Daerth
Amarr
Blood Meridian
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Posted - 2008.09.23 05:59:00 -
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<Veron Daerth laughs>
A bit late to the party. That will teach me to take a holiday, now wont it?
To echo the words of Garion Avarr, there are many of us that would see the Empire change, and for a myriad of reasons. Myself, I would like to see the slaves assimilated into Imperial society.
Also echoing Lord Avarr's words, Pilot Ixiris, not all of us who consider ourselves to be loyal to the Empire feel the need to shout from the rooftops and wave the scriptures about while declaiming the joys of ethnic purity and Amarrian superiority.
There is nothing wrong with an Imperial system, I just want a bit more ... rationalization to it. The society of the Empire has much to commend it, not the least that it has lasted this long. You may see that as a sign of being antiquated, but I see it as very stable. Its not broken, it just needs a few tweaks. Undoubtedly, you and others disagree, but those are just my thoughts.
As to you, Pilot Gwenelle....
<Veron Daerth shakes his head>
You reap what you sow, Pilot. Another thing I think we have forgotten, but alas, something that must be learned again and again. You and your fellows too, are not exempt from this. Should you actually attempt to make an effort to ostracize or harm the random Amarrians that pass your borders, seeking only peaceable trade, you make an enemy of all those that seek peace and stability. Concord alone would not look too kindly on your attempts, should they take place in high-sec systems.
May God grant you Wisdom, Pilots.
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Inara Subaka
Caldari
the united
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Posted - 2008.09.23 07:42:00 -
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*Inara is shown sitting on a long couch with a young Amarrian child asleep using her lap as a pillow, her voice is hushed as to avoid waking the girl when she speaks*
Hatred... You speak out against a group of people based on their ever so slightly differing genetic sequence that makes them have a ever so slightly different appearance.
*Softly stroking the girls hair, Inara sets her firm gaze on the screen*
I hold no love to the Empire (or any of the nations to be quite honest), but if you dare lay a finger on Jall'n... I swear you will beg me to send you to whatever afterlife you believe in. Blood heritage has little to do with disposition of a person, nurture over nature. Look at me, I'm an Achura, many would accuse us of being as religious as the majority of the Empire, less interested in the capitalistic gains that the rest of the State is bent on... yet, here I sit as a capitalistic pirate free of all superstitions.
*Inara chuckles lightly*
I about accused your ignorance on your bloodline, however I believe I was right when I said nurture over nature... It's your barbaric upbringing that has caused your blindness.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.23 14:51:00 -
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When speaking about hatred I do understand some of our brothers and sisters. Why show mercy to the ursupators that are enslaving, electrowhipping or Vitoc-desouling our people?
There is a simple reason: Freedom. Freedom is not just a thing to bring to our people by fighting the Amarr empire, it is even a present that is offered to the Amarr themself. They might not know the value of it but there is hope that they can learn. I am no big Amarr Empire lover, you know that already. But I do not go and kill people for their genes nor their believe nor their colour nor their fathers and anchestors. I do kill people for what they do and for what they support if I have to.
Many of our brave fighters on our lists are Ex-Amarr who have broken with the evil system their empire trys forcefully to bring over the rest of the universe. Its a system of slavery, of no choice and of no tolerance for believes and ways of living that are differnent.
May be I'm just a savage and some of my comrades are even blinking red on the status display of the Concord dominated scoreboard that differs right from wrong and good from evil. But I do not think that mere blinking or to be born as Amarr is a sin, something that has to be cleaned.
I do believe the only sin that a man can do is failing in respect for life and respect for other people. And that failing to take action and stand up if you can is also a personal failure. But I would not use the words "sin". I would use a better word for it like integrety cause it is not clouded by antiquated theorys of how good and evil work.
How these theorys fail you can see on the Evil Empire.
Even if I have personal differences on lifestyle with pilots like Inara Subaka or other, I do share their believe in freedom and their disgust of oppressing system like states. Is anarchy the best form of state? Is this the kind of future that is waiting, like the pirates show on the riffs of your save systems? Where everyone just struggles for survival and is the enemy of his neighbor?
Is this the future? Is the future a pilot like Subaka that finally is caring about a child? If everyone is caring just for one other, are we not beginning to lay down the idea of a nationalistic system of state that defines itself by who is the enemy but who is your friend? Where does the Minmatar society stand? A system of tribes, which means a system of big families that are caring for each other and that have joined together in their fight, because all share the same idea?
And in this new world we have no space for racism and I do not support it. I will accempt Amarr traders in our homeland when they respect the rules, play fair and don't use slaves while they are in competition to local corporations.
If they fail this respect, I deny the peace and tolerance I have for them.
A friend of mine is working as a trader on the Amarr market and man she really is having fun there cause the Amarr market is even worse than the Mitar. But this means freedom. Do what you want, respect the other and stay fraggin' away with your damn warships from our borders you slavetraders and ursupators!
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.09.23 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 23/09/2008 21:40:05
For the sake of clarifying my opinion on pilots like Avarr (whose position on a lot of things in the Empire I support) and Daerth (on whom I have to little information to make an informed comment), the three years in which I have been active as a pilot have forced me to constantly reconsider the terms which I use to describe things.
Now, when I say "Amarr" without a qualifier (such as "Amarr religion", "Amarr society", etc.) I consider it to be a broad term, roughly meaning "ethnicities commonly considered to be willing members of the Amarr Empire" - that is, "True" Amarr, Ni-Kunni, Ealur, Udorians and Khanid. I justify this use of the word "Amarr" in the same way that "True" Gallente, Intaki, Mannar and Jin-Mei are all considered to be "Gallente" by outsiders, despite the fact that the strict use of the word "Gallente" denotes only those of the core Gallente bloodline that originated on Gallente Prime in Luminaire. "Amarr society" generally refers to the Amarr Empire and the society within the Empire that these bloodlines collectively form.
When I was taking my first steps as a pilot, I must admit that I saw "Amarr" as completely synonymous with "Amarr society", and also synonymous with "Imperial loyalist". In my grand naivete, I believed that all Amarrians were evil, and that no-one would be foolish enough to sign on to the extremist interpretation of Amarrian religion generally supported by Amarr society were they not part of a traditionally Amarrian bloodline. Garreck and the Ammatar proved a harsh lesson to me that unfortunately, some who are not Amarrian have signed on to that poisonous delusion.
Nowadays, when I say "Amarr loyalist" or "Imperialist", I generally take it to mean "those who support the Empire's leadership", and all the connotations that support comes with - support of slavery, support of the Reclaiming, support of war and conquest of those who do not follow the Amarrian religion, support of the destruction of cultures and political systems which do not conform to Imperial standards, and, possibly most importantly, the support of the concept of innate ethnogentic and spiritual superiority of the core Amarr bloodline. Basically, Rodj Blake of PIE Inc. is the quintessential example of my definition of an "Imperialist" - pureblood Amarr, violent, mendacious, fanatical in his support of Imperial doctrines of conquest, slavery and ethnic superiority and unwilling to account even the smallest ammount of respect to his enemies - and, importantly, willing to twist and intentionally misinterpret Scriptures to justify his actions.
Now I am sure you will find my definition bigotted and needlessly restrictive, but allow me to justify myself here - I feel that some of those I define as Amarr Loyalists themselves would be willing (and in some cases, actually have) supported that definition. They take the most dangerous form of patriotism in assuming that anyone who questions the leadership is not truly loyal to their country - I have seen several statements that espouse the belief that you can't be loyal to Amarr if you don't believe in slavery, or the innate superiority of the Amarrian race. Taking the aptly-named "No True Amarrian" argument to its logical extreme, there are indeed quite a lot of Amarrians who would be perfectly willing to brand reformist Amarrians as traitors or heretics due to their religious and sociopolitical beliefs.
Recently though, I have been trying to work out what I can define yourselves - Amarrians who are loyal to the Empire, but do not support slavery or war - as. I am considering that the term "Amarr loyalist" would actually probably better suit you, with a subdivision of "Reclaimers" or "Militants" being more apt to describe what myself, Orun and Faust colloquially term "Blakeism".
Thus, using these redefined definitions, I apologise to any moderate Amarr loyalists who believed that I was labelling them as Militants.
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Veron Daerth
Amarr
Blood Meridian
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Posted - 2008.09.23 21:55:00 -
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Pilot Ixiris, I also must offer some apology if I seemed to be interpreting your words too literally.
All too well do I know of the divisions and qualifiers that divide even the most monolithic seeming of societies. Many perceive that the Empire is a single unit, and that all of us MUST believe and think the same, else we would go somewhere other than the Empire out of disgust for the government or culture we were born into.
Frankly, and so that you may know my views better, I support the Imperial system of government. Its more stable and more efficient then a bloated bureaucracy, not to mention that it does not have the flaws of the round-robin circus that is democracy. Not to say it doesnt have its drawbacks, but all governments do. I also support the Faith, mostly, and its inclusion in the political process, mostly. I wish it was a bit more rational and a bit less powerful than it is right now, but I'll take what I can get.
I love my Empire and my God, and know that God loves me just the same. I am ambivalent towards slavery, to an extent, and feel it has become an abusive system that no longer serves the purpose it was created for. I, personally, feel that there are better ways to convert the heathens and that enslaving and killing them isnt the way to do it, again, I'll settle for what I can get or what I can realistically change myself.
The current Reclaiming, I think, is a mistake, and that we will pay for it, both in the immediate future (win or lose), and later on when things start to come apart under the strain of the fanatics and zealots.
All that said, I also will obey my Lady, Lady Tash-Murkon, since I have sworn to her and hold my estates and Holdings in fief to her. The Empress... well, we'll see. Maybe it wont be so bad, but I would prefer a peaceful environment of trading to outright war. Again, I'll take what I can get.
If you have other questions, feel free to ask, I wont automatically assume you are being an ass (not immediately) if you seek to understand either myself or my beliefs. I will also continue to pray for your soul, as I have since I first heard of you, and read some of your thoughts and ideas. I wont try to convert you, not too much at any rate.
<Veron Daerth laughs>
I hope that helped you, Pilot. I just wish others could understand the nuances of loyalty that you seem to.
May God guide you all, Pilots.
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BloodBird
Gallente
Tactical Freedom Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.24 12:43:00 -
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Don't worry Daerth, there is a great amount of people that think mostly like Ixiris does.
My views personally, differentiate a little bit from his though, and how I came to understand the universe is, of course, also very different, but very much alike regardless. I believe I've elaborated on this before I think, but if you want I could do so again.
For Gwenelle, I only feel sorry for you, to a degree, but mostly your extreme naivetT and hate-peddling bothers me, but I've already elaborated on that part.
Miss Arna Padrona, I have, or had, a capsuleer friend once that, experienced something similar to you. She however, went trough far less hassle to get out of the empire, and once she decided her time as capsuleer was up, she went back home and last I heard from her, lived peacefully with her family on her native world.
Anyhow, of less importance, could you offer my regards to Sythra Coratana, a corp-mate of yours? I don’t know her, and she don't know me, but we did fight each other about eleven days ago, and I barely emerged the victor in that fight. The following day she lost another vessel to my own companions, though I was not around at the time. I'd do so myself via private mail but I've been occupied and, is indisposed at this time.
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Arna Padrona
Amarr
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.24 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: BloodBird
Anyhow, of less importance, could you offer my regards to Sythra Coratana, a corp-mate of yours? I donĘt know her, and she don't know me, but we did fight each other about eleven days ago, and I barely emerged the victor in that fight. The following day she lost another vessel to my own companions, though I was not around at the time. I'd do so myself via private mail but I've been occupied and, is indisposed at this time.
I will make sure your name is mentioned.
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BloodBird
Gallente
Tactical Freedom Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.24 15:15:00 -
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Thank you, Miss. Padrona. now, I'll leave this tread to it's original topic, I've voiced my oppinions on it already.
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Sophie Starsparrow
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Posted - 2008.09.24 19:42:00 -
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Myself and Alica Wildfire are two of the most pro-Matari you will meet in eve I think, and yet, even with my hatred for the Amarr, I also am turned off by your words. I do not hear anything of raising the Minmatar. I do not hear anything about honoring our traditions and our culture. Perhaps your hatred has so consumed you you no longer give any thought to these matters.
I find no record of a call to a return to tribal values ten months ago. (This speech your 'group' gave, was it shouted at the people that were actually invited to the Intergalactic Summit as they entered?)
I do, however find my own calls for such a thing over a month before Shakor's announcement. And I and my corporation were a lone voice at that time.
Though this has indeed come to pass, I find it unlikely that your 'group' (consisting of only one member as it does) had any influence on this at all. You inflate your own importance. My corporation and I were also accused of trying to divide the Minmatar people when we made our case before Shakor did, so it remains to be seen wether or not the process of uniting the seven tribes is underway.
While somewhere in there is a point I think I agree with on principle, I cannot endorse misleading and false statements. Nor can I endorse the Minmatar people becoming the oppressors. The war with the Amarrians is not about genocide.
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Selene Le'Cotiere
Amarr
Farlight Council
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Posted - 2008.09.24 23:56:00 -
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Personally, I'm thinking Gwenelle and his group should be returned to the Imperial slave pens as enemies of the state. Where all criminals belong...
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Veron Daerth
Amarr
Blood Meridian
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Posted - 2008.09.25 03:29:00 -
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Pilot Le'Cotiere, that would most likely result in them inciting some chaos either on their own part, or the part of some few slaves they dupe into making some kind of action against their masters or overseers.
I myself am of the opinion that few are beyond our aid in reaching enlightenment and redemption, but I am thinking that those like Pilot Gwenelle are not ready for that aid.
It is sad, really, that Gods children reduce themselves to this.
May God's Light grant you all peace.
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Selene Le'Cotiere
Amarr
Farlight Council
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Posted - 2008.09.25 04:24:00 -
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With the various resources at our disposal (Vitoc, behavioral modifying implants, and castration), I'm quite sure their more violent and insurgent tendencies can be controlled.
As such, if they cannot be so enlightened to see the truth, worth and value of the One True God, let them then stand as an example to others who would spread insurgency and chaos.
Beyond a point, diplomacy will matter very little to these types of individuals, as Gwenelle's rhetoric attests to. It is with these groups, that we as a people must deal with in the most harshest way possible. Let them know, our wrath is righteous and just...
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Shin'Tor Varikior
Minmatar
Tactical Information Tribunal
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Posted - 2008.09.25 09:22:00 -
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Ahhh... So says the Amarran opressor who would see herself as a goddess...
It is little wonder, that the other powers rail at the thought of Amarran supremacy and dogma.
It's because of people such as you, and the rest of your supremist race, that Gwenelle formed First Slave Corporation.
I say good for her, it's about time somebody started to put people like you in your place.
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Sophie Starsparrow
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Posted - 2008.09.25 09:31:00 -
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Shin, I respectfully disagree. If Gwenelle had declared hostility to "people like" Selene, I would give my whole hearted support. Unfortunately, Gwen sounds every bit as supremist as the Amarr. Selene proves my point that Gwenelle gives them a way to justify their behaviour. I hope FSCOR, aka Gwenelle, takes out as many hateful and oppressive Amarr as possible. Caldari too for that matter. I also pray Gwen does not kill the few innocent and blameless ones with them if it can be avoided.
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Ethidium Bromide
Amarr
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.25 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere
the state
Empire, we are an Empire.
Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere
castration
This would really cut down on the profits you can make from slavery.
Every good Amarr who takes on the task of trying to educate and enlighten the lower races has just right to not only get a reward when the doors to Heaven oppen but also a monetary reward on this side.
Think of all the good you can use that money for!
Cleansing His space from heretics, terrorists and infidels!
Oh the joy of blowing those misguided souls out of their little pods and hope for a merciful decision to bless them with a clone intelligent, open minded and humble enough to make them see the light.
Originally by: George Petsch
Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
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Selene Le'Cotiere
Amarr
Farlight Council
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Posted - 2008.09.25 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ethidium Bromide
Empire, we are an Empire.
A simple matter of semantics...
Originally by: Ethidium Bromide
This would really cut down on the profits you can make from slavery.
Every good Amarr who takes on the task of trying to educate and enlighten the lower races has just right to not only get a reward when the doors to Heaven oppen but also a monetary reward on this side.
Think of all the good you can use that money for!
Cleansing His space from heretics, terrorists and infidels!
Oh the joy of blowing those misguided souls out of their little pods and hope for a merciful decision to bless them with a clone intelligent, open minded and humble enough to make them see the light.
Under normal circumstances, yes, I agree. How ever, in light of certain personality tendencies which would reach past the nurturing boosum of the church, I believe castration/neutering in the case of hard line dissidents such as Gwenelle ans her group would provide a more...
shall we say...
limit the the likelyhhod that these traits will be carried on in future generations.
If more proactive measures were taken in the past, we would not have had the uprising that we have had. Resulting in the Minmater republic of today. Instead we would have more docile breeding stock for our slaves today.
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