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Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
35
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:28:00 -
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ceaon wrote:Lt Pizi wrote:ceaon wrote:i dont understand a thing he still get a chair on CSM7 or not ? no he wanted but ccp gave him the finger edit he stepped down from chair to normal CSM CCP banned him for 30 days and removed him from CSM so the votes got wasted ..... so much propaganda about voting for CSM and now CCP does this bullshit ... pretty ********
so the votes got wasted
slang : intoxicated from drugs or alcohol
exactly
CSM are expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM |
Jonatan Reed
Momentary Lapse of Reason. STR8NGE BREW
43
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:30:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Liaria Cullen wrote:Jonatan Reed wrote:Keep Crying wrote:Vaarkk wrote:I move to remove Darius III from CSM7. He has proven time and time again his great mental instability and his ineffective leadership, and he will do nothing to benefit the greater EVE community.
All in favor say "aye" Aye Aye aye Aye (this might deserve it's own threadnaught)
done, check jita speakers |
Elsa Nietchize
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:31:00 -
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can i vote for The Mittani to replace Hilmar? |
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
90
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:31:00 -
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Darius - If there's a revote, I'll sell you my vote for PLEX. I can guarantee I can convince 50 other -FA- members to do the same. Please send ISK to this toon. Thanks. "The Mittani isn't even gone for a day and CCP's management is already making bad decisions."
THE MITTANI for CEO of CCP 1-800-273-8255 |
Jonatan Reed
Momentary Lapse of Reason. STR8NGE BREW
43
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:31:00 -
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Elsa Nietchize wrote:can i vote for The Mittani to replace Hilmar?
so many threadnaughts are needed. |
Urziel99
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:33:00 -
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Lt Pizi wrote:Urziel99 wrote:Princess Bride wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote: You're implying that this wasn't our plan anyway. i've been stocking up ships and mods for weeks now.
So, VENGEANCE WILL BE YOURS! Except you were gonna do it anyway, so how does this get payback for how poor litttle Alex was mistreated by CCP again? *confused* It will be much worse than originally planned. It was going to be a victory lap. Now, well, it will be worse. then you woke up
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Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
215
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:48:00 -
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Don't worry guys, remember when you said the victim in this just laughed it off.
Listening to the State of the Goonion, apparently Mittani is laughing off his ban too. "Freed from eve"
npz then amirite ?
My EVE YouTube Channel |
Praetor Abre-Kai
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:09:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.
Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
The healing process? It's a ******* video game, do people in Call of Duty ask for a period of healing when some random person on the Internet yells out obscenities that contain racial slurs or slurs towards ones sexual preference? What he did was clearly in bad taste, I seriously doubt anyone would deny that. That being said at the end of the day eve is not a real world and you are not that connected to it. |
Klausan
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
26
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:28:00 -
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SO BRAVE |
MyGoodApollo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:09:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Though I have received many letters of support (my inbox is full of these, and for them I thank you) and the major bloggers have called for me to remain on as Chair, there are still some who doubt the sincerity of my apology to the player concerned, who - unlike those attempting to make hay from my mistake - is the person that matters here. I said that I would resign; to demonstrate the sincerity of my words and my apology, I will do just that. With the increasingly high profile of the CSM in the wake of the Incarna Emergency Summit and the amazing turnout we had for the CSM7 elections, I have come to the conclusion that my two roles in EVE - that of the Chairman of the CSM as Alexander Gianturco, and the leader of Goonswarm as "The Mittani" are increasingly incompatible. It is, fundamentally, a problem of hats. As the leader of Goonswarm I must be willing to make ruthless decisions and take actions that many players find objectionable - griefing, ganking, scamming, 'dishonorable' fleet tactics, espionage, metagaming, blowing up everyone who tries to mine Gallente Ice, sponsoring Hulkageddon, et cetera - whatever it takes to defend my people in this, the most exceedingly hostile galaxy to grace the internet. As Darius JOHNSON, the previous Goonswarm leader once said, "[Goonswarm] is not here to destroy /the/ game, but /your/ game. Yet as Chairman of the CSM and Alexander Gianturco, I need to put a good face on CCP's experimental player democracy and keep my nose clean. Inevitably, these two roles conflict with one another; when Goonswarm does what it does in EVE, this reflects on the CSM as a whole, purely due to my position as both Chairman and alliance leader. If I abandon the brutalist tactics of an alliance leader in hopes of keeping the CSM's image pristine, I hamstring my people ingame and do a disservice to the line members who rely on me. In addition, the enemies of Goonswarm assault the CSM and CCP itself unfairly due to the in-game actions of our alliance. After the successful restructuring of CCP, I am convinced that most of the hard work of the CSM is already done - CCP is now focusing on spaceships instead of avatars, and the success of CSM6 has led to a solid and competent crop of player representatives in CSM7 with a much greater turnout, demonstrating ever-more faith and trust from the playerbase in the concept of the CSM. This changes things for the CSM, as well as the Chairman title During Goonswarm's highly successful Gallente Ice Interdiction there were calls for my resignation as Chairman; those calls increased when Goonswarm began to use false supercap sales as a method of closing the gap between us and our in-game enemies' supercap fleets. We are now planning an attempt to destroy Jita itself. All of these actions are entirely legitimate within the brutal world of EVE, yet, in the coming months, if I continue to hold the title of Chairman, CCP will be enduring one PR nightmare after another as Goonswarm's in-game actions unfairly reflect back upon the CSM as a whole through the Chairman title. It is increasingly important that the Chair be a GÇÿgood citizenGÇÖ in the game itself - and I cannot be a good citizen and simultaneously lead my alliance of magnificent bastards. With CSM7's term beginning on April 4th, I now exercise my right as the winner of the election with 10,058 votes to decline the office of Chairman. It will then be up to CSM7 as a group to decide how to proceed regarding the Chair. As a member of the CSM without a title, what I do as the leader of Goonswarm will no longer unfairly reflect on the CSM as a whole - leaving me and my people free to do as we please without needing to consider corporate, political, or media ramifications every time we make a **** joke, offend someone, or sell a supercap made of vapor.
To be honest, I'm more disgusted at this post than anything Mittens has done. So yeah, Mittens has made a decision not to lead the csm. That was his decision. Not the CSMs, not CCPs, his decision. But another member of the CSM isn't satisfied with it therefore he is going to loudly say so on the forums. The TL;DR of the quoted post is something like, "You've shamed us, shamed yourself and now you should gtfo, live with your face in the dirt and get spat on by the whole community."
Darius III, who ******* put you on the csm?
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Lamentor
DAB BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:25:00 -
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Quote:Darius III, who ******* put you on the csm?
1200 votes did.
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Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
27
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:40:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Truly, for what it is truly worth, I think those that have acted despicably here - in this scenario - are not the members of Goonswarm or the Clusterfuck or Mittens himself, but those that have nurtured this little pearl of hatred for Mittens. The people who have acted despicably are not those who have spoken jesting comments about Mittens' words at fanfest, or about some pathetic threat of meta-suicide, but those that have used this thing for political gain.
The despicable I name as people like Jade Constantine, Darius III, Issler Dainze.
You are reprehensible examples of humanity. You are disgusting, hate-filled monstrosities who are ready to use the publicised mental instability of an unfortunate person in order to get a leg up over someone who has angered you so.
I pity each and every one of you.
This. Just like there is no I in Team there is no Fair in Eve... |
Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
78
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:48:00 -
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nnnnnnnnnNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo is basically my delayed response to this announcement.
Just as the threadnaught was forming, too late, I should have made it a day sooner, but even then it may have been likely futile to what is set in stone by ccp.
On another note, course its the 3ed tier bottom of the barrel candidates who go the mile to still smear mittani. They get everything they want, and then they want more, the dung keeps flying. I do hope they stay low in the polls (maybe fall off) and never get the chair.
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Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
27
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:53:00 -
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I don't know if you'll see this post Mittens but I have to say that I have a lot of respect for you and think that the CSM, and CCP, needs you this year. Stepping down as the chair is a good call, just don't back away from the CSM completely! Just like there is no I in Team there is no Fair in Eve... |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1325
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:18:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.
Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
Whether I like your character or not (incidentally I don't), this is an excellent post and definitely strikes straight to the heart of the issue. As such, it needed to be reposted again due the truth contained within it.
This is the first time I've '+1 like' to any of your posted replies.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3192
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:26:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.
Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
Since when did you ever give a **** about the CSM except as a vehicle to get a free trip to Iceland?
You've made no secret of this: you've openly said that anyone who voted for you got scammed, and it's a known fact that you didn't lift a finger to contribute any work at all during the last CSM. Whatever else might be said about Alex, he did put in the work that his constituents trusted him with.
You accomplished nothing except to waste everyone's time.
Your sole goal in this controversy is to get Alex removed from the CSM so that you can get a step closer to once again getting your free ticket for doing nothing. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
OutCast EG
Very Industrial Corp. Legion of xXDEATHXx
2
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:35:00 -
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Wow. This is the most 'blown-out-of-proportion' thing i've seen in my life. Seriousely /o\ |
Brisco County
The Shadow Plague BLACK-MARK
10
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:36:00 -
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I have full faith in our democracy and will cast my vote in the next election cycle for someone who is a really nice person, because I believe that internet spaceships is about being nice to each other. |
Dario Welling
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:41:00 -
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I hope you guys from Goonswarm are'nt that stupid in rl... This was not just a simple "mistake" this was a "PR-bomb" i really don't know how you can support Mittani after this action.
@ Mittani:
Step down from CSM, not only from chairman but from the hole CSM, as Darius III said correctly u brought shame on the hole EVE community and yes this is "just a game" but i don't wanna play a game, where people think, that there are just social retardet players. Really after this hole thing, how can you think that you can stay in the regular CSM like nothing happend? I mean just look at the impact your words had. Every other person would have stepped down from CSM.
cheers
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Cornelius CLEFT
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:46:00 -
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<3 |
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
555
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:53:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote:Don't worry guys, remember when you said the victim in this just laughed it off.
Listening to the State of the Goonion, apparently Mittani is laughing off his ban too. "Freed from eve"
npz then amirite ?
Also
There is no reason for a revote.
You were not disfranchised you got to vote.
Your boy blew it for you.
Take it up with him. He is the one the thew away your votes not ccp.
Alternates exist or a reason. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
36
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:08:00 -
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m8 m8 how do you quit when you already got fired?? |
Zxmagus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:12:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.
Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
I'm going to enjoy burning your **** to the ground. Mittins has done a lot for this game and for CCP to toss him under a bus like that was unclassy they should at least talked to him about it before hand, shown him some respect like he did to them with monoclegate. |
Skrupler
Mixposen Explorations
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:14:00 -
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0 / 10 TL;DR /cry some moar |
Dario Welling
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:22:00 -
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Zxmagus wrote:Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.
Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears. I'm going to enjoy burning your **** to the ground. Mittins has done a lot for this game and for CCP to toss him under a bus like that was unclassy they should at least talked to him about it before hand, shown him some respect like he did to them with monoclegate.
are you that stupid? I mean, this was a PR-bomb, every other politican in his position would have declined his position and even though he has done a lot for EVE, does that apologize his behavior? No i don't think so. Every person earns a second chance but not in a position like this. What would you say if Mr.Obama would do that? He is a representive person, he represents the EVE community...
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Zxmagus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:34:00 -
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It's a PR-bomb that got blown out of proportion because no one bothered to look into it with even the depth of a google search and best of all it will be forgotten in 2 days. Now the CSM on the other hand has to serve for a year and if you hadn't notice what mittins did for the CSM during csm 6 was pretty ******* substantial.
And really let us not forget what he did was make a joke a bad one but a joke. |
Dario Welling
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:37:00 -
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Even if it was a joke, theres absolutely no excuse and as i've already written, yeah Mittani did a lot for EVE when he was in CSM but thats no apologize for this kind of behavior. |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
163
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:38:00 -
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Zxmagus wrote:It's a PR-bomb that got blown out of proportion because no one bothered to look into it with even the depth of a google search and best of all it will be forgotten in 2 days. Now the CSM on the other hand has to serve for a year and if you hadn't notice what mittins did for the CSM during csm 6 was pretty ******* substantial.
And really let us not forget what he did was make a joke a bad one but a joke. See, what you say makes sense. But why use logic when it's easier to just HURRR GOONS ARE THE DEBIL WOLOL DEAL WIT IT!!!!on!e1!! |
Richard Bong
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:48:00 -
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Dario Welling wrote: words
PR- BOMB!!!!! You mean that paint chip eater at massively who has a hard-on for goons? Or how this took 5 days to turn into a "thing" clearly running on manufactured drama, NPC Alts, and bitterness?
Everyone who doesn't play Eve read this all as, "Some **** says mean stuff to other nerd at internet spaceship presentation." Their eyes glass over and they forget they read the tagline.
I didn't even show this whole shebang to my out of game nerd friends because its really ******* boring.
Having rootkits secretly installed on customers computers from the new CD's they bought is a "PR BOMB!!!!!!11!" this is IRL forum drama. Shockingly its just as uninteresting and irrelevant to outsiders IRL as it is online. [ASK] Me about drive by thread shitting! |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
560
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:50:00 -
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Tetragammatron Prime wrote:m8 m8 how do you quit when you already got fired??
Ask mittens.
His goons seemed to eat up that crap he was saying about quitting. Its rather funny. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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