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DTCore
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.16 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 15/09/2008 19:26:56 The Truth about NC
No no no no, lag really belongs on your side, always had and always will. ZLZ is an excellent example of your ultimate pvp skills where it took nc fleet that was about to crush you like bugs 20 minutes to make 2 jumps. You must be very proud of yourself I see for being able to "outsmart" everyone by lagging the node to death.
Also carrier blobs and fighter lag is also on your side mostly since all you do is take the jammer down and then overblob the system with caps. Fair enough, you need them since you yet to win a fight in north involving regular fleets only. Maybe in a month or two you might kill one m-o camp or catch a lone farmer so you can brag about it some more here. Until then stick to cap blobs since your support fleets are totaly sub par lately.
Also I do remember you used multiple titans multiple times so why not push that also on your side. Dual doomsday seems to be your speciality, there is no shame in admitting you use it a lot since your regular fleets are just NC cannon-fodder.
I don's see metagaming on that list, why? Like spies who empty poses and turn them off or constant stream from NC teamspeak you have access to (which does not really help lately to be honest). Add that and suddenly the picture looks very different, doesn't it? You seem to forget metagaming constantly, I thought you are proud for bending rules of the game to achieve your goals or are you ashamed of being beaten by guys whose every move is known to you?
Time will tell I guess.
MAX = Loosing ships in stupid way then turning it into a victory on forums. |
Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2008.09.16 00:11:00 -
[122]
Originally by: DTCore
Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 15/09/2008 19:26:56 The Truth about NC
No no no no, lag really belongs on your side, always had and always will. ZLZ is an excellent example of your ultimate pvp skills where it took nc fleet that was about to crush you like bugs 20 minutes to make 2 jumps. You must be very proud of yourself I see for being able to "outsmart" everyone by lagging the node to death.
Also carrier blobs and fighter lag is also on your side mostly since all you do is take the jammer down and then overblob the system with caps. Fair enough, you need them since you yet to win a fight in north involving regular fleets only. Maybe in a month or two you might kill one m-o camp or catch a lone farmer so you can brag about it some more here. Until then stick to cap blobs since your support fleets are totaly sub par lately.
Also I do remember you used multiple titans multiple times so why not push that also on your side. Dual doomsday seems to be your speciality, there is no shame in admitting you use it a lot since your regular fleets are just NC cannon-fodder.
I don's see metagaming on that list, why? Like spies who empty poses and turn them off or constant stream from NC teamspeak you have access to (which does not really help lately to be honest). Add that and suddenly the picture looks very different, doesn't it? You seem to forget metagaming constantly, I thought you are proud for bending rules of the game to achieve your goals or are you ashamed of being beaten by guys whose every move is known to you?
Time will tell I guess.
Used to take me 20-30 mins to go from PR- to 1DH back in the delve wars....quit your whining.
Maybe we're recruiting, I don't know, spam eve-mails to Daniel Zorg, and go into a coma for a week. |
TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.16 00:12:00 -
[123]
Yes yes, I think I get it. When you're not doing so good it's unfair because of BoB TS spies, BoB knowing how lag works, 1923 titans, capital blobs etc. When we venture into jammed systems with roaming gangs because we choose to do so and lose some ships from time to time it's because we suck and we're terrible without capitals.
Am I getting your/the NC way of thinking right? |
hisgoatness
Delusions 0f Grandeur G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.16 01:20:00 -
[124]
is this guy this week's Baghdad Bob? "We are winning the war guys, honest."
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Ekram Riz
Minmatar Wyland-Yutani Corporation
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Posted - 2008.09.16 04:05:00 -
[125]
I don't drink tears, but if I did this thread would be the place to do it Well done BOB, now I get it.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.16 06:09:00 -
[126]
Originally by: DTCore
Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 15/09/2008 19:26:56 The Truth about NC
No no no no, lag really belongs on your side, always had and always will. ZLZ is an excellent example of your ultimate pvp skills where it took nc fleet that was about to crush you like bugs 20 minutes to make 2 jumps. You must be very proud of yourself I see for being able to "outsmart" everyone by lagging the node to death.
Also carrier blobs and fighter lag is also on your side mostly since all you do is take the jammer down and then overblob the system with caps. Fair enough, you need them since you yet to win a fight in north involving regular fleets only. Maybe in a month or two you might kill one m-o camp or catch a lone farmer so you can brag about it some more here. Until then stick to cap blobs since your support fleets are totaly sub par lately.
Also I do remember you used multiple titans multiple times so why not push that also on your side. Dual doomsday seems to be your speciality, there is no shame in admitting you use it a lot since your regular fleets are just NC cannon-fodder.
I don's see metagaming on that list, why? Like spies who empty poses and turn them off or constant stream from NC teamspeak you have access to (which does not really help lately to be honest). Add that and suddenly the picture looks very different, doesn't it? You seem to forget metagaming constantly, I thought you are proud for bending rules of the game to achieve your goals or are you ashamed of being beaten by guys whose every move is known to you?
Time will tell I guess.
DTee, is that you? --
Billion Isk Mission |
Minyme
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.16 06:23:00 -
[127]
Originally by: hisgoatness is this guy this week's Baghdad Bob? "We are winning the war guys, honest."
So I report of true events, namely bob fleets getting utterly destroyed, backed up even by battle information from killboards and I get accused of being a Baghdad Bob? You are in serious denial, just admit you got served well multiple times in a row and move on. your fleets evaporated on entering north last 10 times, period!
Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs? MAX = Getting slaughtered in Tribute in various ways. |
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.09.16 06:54:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Minyme
Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?
I'm sure they're happy to lose some assault frigs if it means gaining 4 regions, countless high end moons, and getting multiple supercap kills into the bargain too.
It seems a remarkably good trade. ----------
AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |
Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.16 08:01:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Minyme
Originally by: hisgoatness is this guy this week's Baghdad Bob? "We are winning the war guys, honest."
Our mighty Republican Gaurd is beating back the American pig-dogs on every front. Any moment now Our Glorious Leader shall lead the Invincible counter attack and be supping mojitos in the white house by tea time.
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Minyme
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.16 08:31:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Minyme on 16/09/2008 08:31:38
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Minyme
Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?
I'm sure they're happy to lose some assault frigs if it means gaining 4 regions, countless high end moons, and getting multiple supercap kills into the bargain too.
It seems a remarkably good trade.
Denial, denial, denial! Grow up and admit that they are loosing much more then just assault frigates. The count is at some 700 losses against less then 150 kills in the past week. 700 mostly t2 stuff!!!! And they (you included) don't even have the courage to say GF! NC has been giving them beating after beating and GBC still brags about being unbeatable. Those times are long gone, GBC is now a watered down version of ex-bob, and let's face it, NC has plenty of pvp-veterans who would own any GBC pilot any time of the day NOT USING METAGAMING AT ALL!!!
If someone can be called "Baghdad Bob" that would be all the bobits and their suckups putting down NC victories. We all know this is part of your tactics which is now turning back on you since you can not hack into killboards and change those embaressing defeats in any way. Just learn to live with it, your time is long gone, face the truth and it will set you free.
MAX = Getting slaughtered in Tribute in various ways. |
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.09.16 08:45:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Minyme Edited by: Minyme on 16/09/2008 08:31:38
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Minyme
Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?
I'm sure they're happy to lose some assault frigs if it means gaining 4 regions, countless high end moons, and getting multiple supercap kills into the bargain too.
It seems a remarkably good trade.
Denial, denial, denial! Grow up and admit that they are loosing much more then just assault frigates. The count is at some 700 losses against less then 150 kills in the past week. 700 mostly t2 stuff!!!! And they (you included) don't even have the courage to say GF! NC has been giving them beating after beating and GBC still brags about being unbeatable. Those times are long gone, GBC is now a watered down version of ex-bob, and let's face it, NC has plenty of pvp-veterans who would own any GBC pilot any time of the day NOT USING METAGAMING AT ALL!!!
If someone can be called "Baghdad Bob" that would be all the bobits and their suckups putting down NC victories. We all know this is part of your tactics which is now turning back on you since you can not hack into killboards and change those embaressing defeats in any way. Just learn to live with it, your time is long gone, face the truth and it will set you free.
This is too much, I'm calling 'BoB alt' on you now.
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AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |
Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.16 09:04:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Minyme Edited by: Minyme on 16/09/2008 08:31:38
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Minyme
Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?
I'm sure they're happy to lose some assault frigs if it means gaining 4 regions, countless high end moons, and getting multiple supercap kills into the bargain too.
It seems a remarkably good trade.
Denial, denial, denial! Grow up and admit that they are loosing much more then just assault frigates. The count is at some 700 losses against less then 150 kills in the past week. 700 mostly t2 stuff!!!! And they (you included) don't even have the courage to say GF! NC has been giving them beating after beating and GBC still brags about being unbeatable. Those times are long gone, GBC is now a watered down version of ex-bob, and let's face it, NC has plenty of pvp-veterans who would own any GBC pilot any time of the day NOT USING METAGAMING AT ALL!!!
If someone can be called "Baghdad Bob" that would be all the bobits and their suckups putting down NC victories. We all know this is part of your tactics which is now turning back on you since you can not hack into killboards and change those embaressing defeats in any way. Just learn to live with it, your time is long gone, face the truth and it will set you free.
This is too much, I'm calling 'BoB alt' on you now.
Yeah, he overdid it. (it was all those exclamation marks i think). Bit sad i got trolled, again.
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Mo'Chuisle
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.16 09:14:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Minyme Edited by: Minyme on 16/09/2008 08:31:38
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Minyme
Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?
I'm sure they're happy to lose some assault frigs if it means gaining 4 regions, countless high end moons, and getting multiple supercap kills into the bargain too.
It seems a remarkably good trade.
Denial, denial, denial! Grow up and admit that they are loosing much more then just assault frigates. The count is at some 700 losses against less then 150 kills in the past week. 700 mostly t2 stuff!!!! And they (you included) don't even have the courage to say GF! NC has been giving them beating after beating and GBC still brags about being unbeatable. Those times are long gone, GBC is now a watered down version of ex-bob, and let's face it, NC has plenty of pvp-veterans who would own any GBC pilot any time of the day NOT USING METAGAMING AT ALL!!!
If someone can be called "Baghdad Bob" that would be all the bobits and their suckups putting down NC victories. We all know this is part of your tactics which is now turning back on you since you can not hack into killboards and change those embaressing defeats in any way. Just learn to live with it, your time is long gone, face the truth and it will set you free.
This is too much, I'm calling 'BoB alt' on you now.
Yeah, he overdid it. (it was all those exclamation marks i think). Bit sad i got trolled, again.
WWDSS!
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Tearavygh Quillam
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.16 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
We'll forget all the 'MAX-FAIL' NC alt posts they made shortly before after GBC began their campaign... and shortly before IRON lost all their space, VFK fell, 5 motherships died, PURE lost Vale, and Hydra said goodbye.
Good old Bitter Nub, crap propaganda at its best.
The NC lost that part of Deklein because of their strategy. Boring camps 24/7 revealed their effect weeks after, when in times of need none was there to do it anymore.
Further more, the NC lost that much space because of attacks in 3 different zones in space. No matter how they'd defend, no matter who'd defend, when facing this kind of attacks, everyone loses (and lost) here and there (aka BoB having been pushed to Delve only).
I wish them a good run.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.09.16 10:36:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: Butter Dog
We'll forget all the 'MAX-FAIL' NC alt posts they made shortly before after GBC began their campaign... and shortly before IRON lost all their space, VFK fell, 5 motherships died, PURE lost Vale, and Hydra said goodbye.
Good old Bitter Nub, crap propaganda at its best.
The NC lost that part of Deklein because of their strategy. Boring camps 24/7 revealed their effect weeks after, when in times of need none was there to do it anymore.
Further more, the NC lost that much space because of attacks in 3 different zones in space. No matter how they'd defend, no matter who'd defend, when facing this kind of attacks, everyone loses (and lost) here and there (aka BoB having been pushed to Delve only).
I wish them a good run.
I've heard of spin and don't mind a bit myself, but you're really trying too hard to polish that turd.
the acid test will be how much space NC hold in 3 months
I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?
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AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |
Darkefury
GK inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.16 11:03:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: Butter Dog
We'll forget all the 'MAX-FAIL' NC alt posts they made shortly before after GBC began their campaign... and shortly before IRON lost all their space, VFK fell, 5 motherships died, PURE lost Vale, and Hydra said goodbye.
Good old Bitter Nub, crap propaganda at its best.
The NC lost that part of Deklein because of their strategy. Boring camps 24/7 revealed their effect weeks after, when in times of need none was there to do it anymore.
Further more, the NC lost that much space because of attacks in 3 different zones in space. No matter how they'd defend, no matter who'd defend, when facing this kind of attacks, everyone loses (and lost) here and there (aka BoB having been pushed to Delve only).
I wish them a good run.
I've heard of spin and don't mind a bit myself, but you're really trying too hard to polish that turd.
the acid test will be how much space NC hold in 3 months
I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?
I'd be happy to bet too, but I share your opinion so I guess we would have to find someone who would bet against us. Too bad MAX-Fail corp heroes enforce the "Words speak louder than acts" policy.
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DTCore
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.16 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?
NC has put their ships and their assets where their mouth is, how about your ships? Jita? Even bob stages from empire or npc stations, so don't be ashamed of admitting that all you can do is forum rant.
If NC is so fail what are you when you got humiliated by them? They hold space for years, and all you hold is "sad poster" award.
MAX = Loosing ships in stupid way then turning it into a victory on forums. |
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.09.16 11:15:00 -
[138]
Originally by: DTCore
Originally by: Butter Dog I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?
NC has put their ships and their assets where their mouth is, how about your ships? Jita? Even bob stages from empire or npc stations, so don't be ashamed of admitting that all you can do is forum rant.
If NC is so fail what are you when you got humiliated by them? They hold space for years, and all you hold is "sad poster" award.
If you call destroying 200bn of their ships 'fail' then yes, we failed ever so hard... I've always called it a phyrric victory and that point remains as salient as ever
anyway, 10bn isk says they hold less space than they do now in three months time - put your money where your mouth is, or get out my CAOD
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AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |
Barbaro55a
Caldari Hangover Heros.
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Posted - 2008.09.16 11:21:00 -
[139]
I'm williing to hold the 20 billion for a period of three months if you require a third party.
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Shinma Apollo
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.16 12:42:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: DTCore
Originally by: Butter Dog I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?
NC has put their ships and their assets where their mouth is, how about your ships? Jita? Even bob stages from empire or npc stations, so don't be ashamed of admitting that all you can do is forum rant.
If NC is so fail what are you when you got humiliated by them? They hold space for years, and all you hold is "sad poster" award.
If you call destroying 200bn of their ships 'fail' then yes, we failed ever so hard... I've always called it a phyrric victory and that point remains as salient as ever
anyway, 10bn isk says they hold less space than they do now in three months time - put your money where your mouth is, or get out my CAOD
I'd be willing to take that bet, but only on the caveat that if I (and by extension, the NC) win, you'll delete that char so as to ensure you'll never post again.
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Tearavygh Quillam
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.16 13:06:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: Butter Dog
We'll forget all the 'MAX-FAIL' NC alt posts they made shortly before after GBC began their campaign... and shortly before IRON lost all their space, VFK fell, 5 motherships died, PURE lost Vale, and Hydra said goodbye.
Good old Bitter Nub, crap propaganda at its best.
The NC lost that part of Deklein because of their strategy. Boring camps 24/7 revealed their effect weeks after, when in times of need none was there to do it anymore.
Further more, the NC lost that much space because of attacks in 3 different zones in space. No matter how they'd defend, no matter who'd defend, when facing this kind of attacks, everyone loses (and lost) here and there (aka BoB having been pushed to Delve only).
I wish them a good run.
I've heard of spin and don't mind a bit myself, but you're really trying too hard to polish that turd.
the acid test will be how much space NC hold in 3 months
I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?
You're wasting time by trying to make me bite. But well, you're wasting time anyway.
The NC are a good bunch of guys, they'll do what they'll do and live peacefuly with it. Pretty neat, compared to what others do.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.09.16 13:12:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
You're wasting time by trying to make me bite. But well, you're wasting time anyway.
The NC are a good bunch of guys, they'll do what they'll do and live peacefuly with it. Pretty neat, compared to what others do.
You may as well have just posted "you're right, and I wont put my money where my mouth is".
No-one cares about your sentimental NC "they're nice" posts, what has that got to do with anything? I'm just enjoying the show
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AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |
TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.16 13:13:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
You're wasting time by trying to make me bite. But well, you're wasting time anyway.
The NC are a good bunch of guys, they'll do what they'll do and live peacefuly with it. Pretty neat, compared to what others do.
Then why did you leave them? |
queen1121
Empire Dreams
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Posted - 2008.09.16 13:43:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
The NC are a good bunch of guys, they'll do what they'll do and live peacefuly with it. Pretty neat, compared to what others do.
They will live peacefully with anyone they can't blob to death, aka. they're afraid of, hoping to maintain status quo without any real dedication, basicly getting lazy, fat and rich.
Well tide is changing.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.16 13:51:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam The NC lost that part of Deklein because of their strategy.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.16 14:04:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Butter Dog If you call destroying 200bn of their ships 'fail' then yes, we failed ever so hard... I've always called it a phyrric victory and that point remains as salient as ever
Except you seems to have zero grasp of what a pyrrhic victory is. Beating INSRG had no negative affect on us at all and the cost was very manageable. I'd even go as far as saying that every entity except RZR had no trouble supplying and keeping troops on the frontlines. RZR lost most but the only thing that took any time to replace is the titan if you don't count a couple of dreads we had to wait up to a week for. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |
Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.16 14:26:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Fred0 Except you seems to have zero grasp of what a pyrrhic victory is.
Yes Fred0, we know. Bob is no threat to anyone anymore. BoB has no friends, has been pushed back to one region and as soon as BoB attacks anyone, the coalition is going to be reformed and Bob will be beaten back again. Victory!
The truth will set you free
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.09.16 14:28:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Fred0
Beating INSRG had no negative affect on us at all
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RZR lost most but the only thing that took any time to replace is the titan
Good post.
And since I have to spell it out: the damage it inflicted on you was showing you up. RZR and INSRG were a similar size, you were more established with Sov systems and greater ISK reserves.
The damage that conflict caused to you was that it proved, once and for all to any doubters, that RZR can do nothing alone, are nothing alone, and in the wider scheme of things are a weak alliance who have only ever relied on numbers to achieve anything.
Without your numbers prop, your alliance is nothing and you know it. INSRG scared you, you blobbed them with the NC, you lost far more than you gained, and then you crowed 'victory!'.
Shallow, hollow, and utterly pathetic ----------
AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |
PooooBear
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.16 14:36:00 -
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Bitter Dog, you're pretty dumb. A pyrrhic victory is a victory with irreplaceable losses. You didn't inflict them irreplaceable losses, in fact, Insurgency barely managed to scar them then proceeded to lose every PR support for the "underdog" thanks to a series of terrible forum posts by you and darth solo, which switched the public opinion to "they might be underdogs but damn if they're annoying".
Also Metal Dude, way to know how to read. He wasn't talking to you, nor about BoB. -Cippa RSF old timer. AKA "the dude" |
Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.16 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: PooooBear Also Metal Dude, way to know how to read. He wasn't talking to you, nor about BoB.
Hey, I just like to bring up past quotes to motivate our troops. Our morale is low after all the recent defeats. Goons should know. That's what you do all the time.
The truth will set you free
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