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KanashiiKami
39
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:06:00 -
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cmon CCP ... ban alex giantwadshisname (aka mittani )... all accounts WUT ??? |
KanashiiKami
39
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:08:00 -
[2732] - Quote
Yanto Widowmaker wrote:Wow! Before I had a sense of pride about being an EvE player. Matanni, you ruined the image of my game in the eyes of the world!
i agree
cmon CCP ... lets see some full account bans ...
WUT ??? |
KanashiiKami
39
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:10:00 -
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Lomarro wrote:Samantha Rockpile wrote:Lomarro wrote:DarkWrath wrote:Rhinanna wrote:Jesus....
Seriously, he made a ****-up while pissed, then soon as he realised what he had done, apologized and tried to make amends.
I can't see how he could of been expected to do much more than what he has already done, the mistake is already made, if the person he insulted has accepted the apology and I hope mittans sent him a chunk of ISK as well, then its story over. Everyone makes mistakes.
He may be a goon and a lawyer but he is still a human being, vaguely at least ;)
PS. Not a goon, never been a goon and not a Mittani fan, but fair is fair after all.
Two things:
- He's an elected official representing thousands of players, because of this his actions are scrutinized. The fact that he's drunk does not excuse his actions.
- Imo the only reason he apologized is because of the shitstorm his comments have created, if this had not been blown out of proportion like it has he wouldn't have cared.
why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs Really?!... Link Proof or it never happened. And most criminals caught with drugs after an offense get another charge added on to whatever they where doing wrong. By your logic if I ram into a car full of a young family and kill them all I can just say oh well I was drunk sorry. a man goes on the streets and intentionally kills someone else. another man does the same but is so drugged he can barely walk which one gets the harder punishment?
bottomline ... they are both wrong
and so is mittani
account ban pls tyvm CCP
WUT ??? |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:10:00 -
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Samantha Rockpile wrote:Welsige wrote:Taihbea wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Lomarro wrote:why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs
Do they? What kind of crappy third world country do you live in, that's pathetic. Some shithole that's for sure. In here you won't find a way to get out of trouble if there was ANY alcohol involved. Humm i know countries where presidents had its toy licked at office and walked clean from it. BUT....It didn't involve alcohol.
Just crapy world dont have to be thrird worlds.
BTW, are you showing prejudice against 3rd world countries? Should i report you?
Hummm..... these bullyies are all around, you know.
People should look at their own belly buttons sometimes. |
low26
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
28
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:10:00 -
[2735] - Quote
Welsige wrote:Taihbea wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Lomarro wrote:why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs
Do they? What kind of crappy third world country do you live in, that's pathetic. Some shithole that's for sure. In here you won't find a way to get out of trouble if there was ANY alcohol involved. Humm i know countries where presidents had its toy licked at office and walked clean from it.
First off he was not in trouble for "getting his toy licked" he was in trouble for lying to a grand jury. He was also impeached by the House of Representatives for it but there was not enough votes in his Senate trial to remove him from office. He also lost his law license and was barred from ever arguing in front of the Supreme Court. So there were consequences for his actions. |
Samantha Rockpile
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:10:00 -
[2736] - Quote
Lomarro wrote:Samantha Rockpile wrote:Lomarro wrote:DarkWrath wrote:Rhinanna wrote:Jesus....
Seriously, he made a ****-up while pissed, then soon as he realised what he had done, apologized and tried to make amends.
I can't see how he could of been expected to do much more than what he has already done, the mistake is already made, if the person he insulted has accepted the apology and I hope mittans sent him a chunk of ISK as well, then its story over. Everyone makes mistakes.
He may be a goon and a lawyer but he is still a human being, vaguely at least ;)
PS. Not a goon, never been a goon and not a Mittani fan, but fair is fair after all.
Two things:
- He's an elected official representing thousands of players, because of this his actions are scrutinized. The fact that he's drunk does not excuse his actions.
- Imo the only reason he apologized is because of the shitstorm his comments have created, if this had not been blown out of proportion like it has he wouldn't have cared.
why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs Really?!... Link Proof or it never happened. And most criminals caught with drugs after an offense get another charge added on to whatever they where doing wrong. By your logic if I ram into a car full of a young family and kill them all I can just say oh well I was drunk sorry. a man goes on the streets and intentionally kills someone else. another man does the same but is so drugged he can barrely walk which one gets the harder punishment?
1. Depends on the JURY they decide (Playerbase) 2. They both get jail time regardless. 3. Both suffer from a life of trying to recover from something in their life they cant change. 4. Possible Monetary payments depending on Civil suit. (If One) 5. Both can never get a decent restart on life as they are both labeled threats to society.
I don't really see much difference in the punishment. |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:12:00 -
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Yanto Widowmaker wrote:Wow! Before I had a sense of pride about being an EvE player. Matanni, you ruined the image of my game in the eyes of the world!
The world dont care. It plays world of warcraft. |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:15:00 -
[2738] - Quote
low26 wrote:Welsige wrote:Taihbea wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Lomarro wrote:why is being drunk not a excuse? there are criminals get lesser punishment for real and far more serious crimes when they are under drugs
Do they? What kind of crappy third world country do you live in, that's pathetic. Some shithole that's for sure. In here you won't find a way to get out of trouble if there was ANY alcohol involved. Humm i know countries where presidents had its toy licked at office and walked clean from it. First off he was not in trouble for "getting his toy licked" he was in trouble for lying to a grand jury. He was also impeached by the House of Representatives for it but there was not enough votes in his Senate trial to remove him from office. He also lost his law license and was barred from ever arguing in front of the Supreme Court. So there were consequences for his actions.
Yeah but did he resigned? Did he finished his term?
10 bil was given, appologies was given. Guy (drama queen) is fine. Move on. |
Samantha Rockpile
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:17:00 -
[2739] - Quote
I just Checked My belly Button....No Third World Country there......found some lint though! :D |
Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
140
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:20:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:little precious bees still crying delicious tears
You are sounding like a cyber-bully. |
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low26
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
28
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:30:00 -
[2741] - Quote
Humm i know countries where presidents had its toy licked at office and walked clean from it.[/quote]
First off he was not in trouble for "getting his toy licked" he was in trouble for lying to a grand jury. He was also impeached by the House of Representatives for it but there was not enough votes in his Senate trial to remove him from office. He also lost his law license and was barred from ever arguing in front of the Supreme Court. So there were consequences for his actions.[/quote]
Yeah but did he resigned? Did he finished his term?
10 bil was given, appologies was given. Guy (drama queen) is fine. Move on.[/quote]
True, He finished his term because the politics going on in the Senate from the media schilling for him. (sound familiar) It is also still a point of contention to this day. (see what I did there) |
Keen Fallsword
The Scope Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:34:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:-1
Stop whining. He acted fine
You are stupid and you dont know about it yet.. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
57
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:34:00 -
[2743] - Quote
Laying it to rest.
This threadnaught has about run it's "useful" course as we have pretty much two polarized sides that must agree to disagree on this topic.
The only real steps to getting us all to move on (IMHO) would be:
1. Mittani to complete his Step 2 (Resign from CSM) heck, he'll be back in next year but, he said the words, and as a man I would expect him to keep to it. 2. CCP to issue some flavor of an "official" statement.
Nothing clever at this time. |
Giuliano Verti
State War Academy Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:36:00 -
[2744] - Quote
Nick Bison wrote:Laying it to rest.
This threadnaught has about run it's "useful" course as we have pretty much two polarized sides that must agree to disagree on this topic.
The only real steps to getting us all to move on (IMHO) would be:
1. Mittani to complete his Step 2 (Resign from CSM) heck, he'll be back in next year but, he said the words, and as a man I would expect him to keep to it. 2. CCP to issue some flavor of an "official" statement.
^-- This --^ |
KanashiiKami
39
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:43:00 -
[2745] - Quote
Nick Bison wrote:Laying it to rest.
This threadnaught has about run it's "useful" course as we have pretty much two polarized sides that must agree to disagree on this topic.
The only real steps to getting us all to move on (IMHO) would be:
1. Mittani to complete his Step 2 (Resign from CSM) heck, he'll be back in next year but, he said the words, and as a man I would expect him to keep to it. 2. CCP to issue some flavor of an "official" statement.
not enough. CCP pls consider full account BAN on mittani
WUT ??? |
xXv1c10usXx
Alchemy Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:56:00 -
[2746] - Quote
You know, here is the thing. Sure, goons push the very extents of the envelope beyond the black lines in to undetermined grey space. At least they do what is expected, if you expect anything different like they are suddenly coming to Jesus or something, you deserve whatever forum level and in game embarrassment you get.
Where is all the upheaval about all the Band of Developers (oops, sry BoB) shadows that still exist and perpetuate certain mechanic exploits? See, that is beyond the black and grey lines and you fail to call those elements out in to the public forum. Hypocrisy always has blinders on. People cannot call out the real truth because it hits too close to home. Goons have neither won or lost here, they are playing their game, that is it. All the tears and agony are right up their game play methods and you fell right in to it.
I would suggest that all the cry baby wanna be, do gooder white knight, increase CCP Gov'ment rules regulation, tree hugging, environmentalist, commy bass turd, low life, social game reject, suck asses go find a different game to play that only has pretty jeweled NPCs in it, cause playing a MMO that has combat interaction is obviously too much for you, not to mention and meta game attributes. |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:01:00 -
[2747] - Quote
xXv1c10usXx wrote:You know, here is the thing. Sure, goons push the very extents of the envelope beyond the black lines in to undetermined grey space. At least they do what is expected, if you expect anything different like they are suddenly coming to Jesus or something, you deserve whatever forum level and in game embarrassment you get.
Where is all the upheaval about all the Band of Developers (oops, sry BoB) shadows that still exist and perpetuate certain mechanic exploits? See, that is beyond the black and grey lines and you fail to call those elements out in to the public forum. Hypocrisy always has blinders on. People cannot call out the real truth because it hits too close to home. Goons have neither won or lost here, they are playing their game, that is it. All the tears and agony are right up their game play methods and you fell right in to it.
I would suggest that all the cry baby wanna be, do gooder white knight, increase CCP Gov'ment rules regulation, tree hugging, environmentalist, commy bass turd, low life, social game reject, suck asses go find a different game to play that only has pretty jeweled NPCs in it, cause playing a MMO that has combat interaction is obviously too much for you, not to mention and meta game attributes.
Wtf are you on about?
PS: DId you really need to write the same thing twice in both threads? |
xXv1c10usXx
Alchemy Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:05:00 -
[2748] - Quote
Nylith Empyreal wrote:xXv1c10usXx wrote:You know, here is the thing. Sure, goons push the very extents of the envelope beyond the black lines in to undetermined grey space. At least they do what is expected, if you expect anything different like they are suddenly coming to Jesus or something, you deserve whatever forum level and in game embarrassment you get.
Where is all the upheaval about all the Band of Developers (oops, sry BoB) shadows that still exist and perpetuate certain mechanic exploits? See, that is beyond the black and grey lines and you fail to call those elements out in to the public forum. Hypocrisy always has blinders on. People cannot call out the real truth because it hits too close to home. Goons have neither won or lost here, they are playing their game, that is it. All the tears and agony are right up their game play methods and you fell right in to it.
I would suggest that all the cry baby wanna be, do gooder white knight, increase CCP Gov'ment rules regulation, tree hugging, environmentalist, commy bass turd, low life, social game reject, suck asses go find a different game to play that only has pretty jeweled NPCs in it, cause playing a MMO that has combat interaction is obviously too much for you, not to mention and meta game attributes. Wtf are you on about? PS: DId you really need to write the same thing twice in both threads?
Yes, because it was worth repeating. Such as numerous other posters... Wanted to make sure and catch both streams of unconscious dribble about the so called fairness doctrine when life ins't fair and this stream of BS is still BS. |
ExhumeToConsume
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:07:00 -
[2749] - Quote
Nick Bison wrote:Laying it to rest.
This threadnaught has about run it's "useful" course as we have pretty much two polarized sides that must agree to disagree on this topic.
The only real steps to getting us all to move on (IMHO) would be:
1. Mittani to complete his Step 2 (Resign from CSM) heck, he'll be back in next year but, he said the words, and as a man I would expect him to keep to it. 2. CCP to issue some flavor of an "official" statement.
3. Roadhouse is a most excellent film |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:12:00 -
[2750] - Quote
xXv1c10usXx wrote:Nylith Empyreal wrote:xXv1c10usXx wrote:You know, here is the thing. Sure, goons push the very extents of the envelope beyond the black lines in to undetermined grey space. At least they do what is expected, if you expect anything different like they are suddenly coming to Jesus or something, you deserve whatever forum level and in game embarrassment you get.
Where is all the upheaval about all the Band of Developers (oops, sry BoB) shadows that still exist and perpetuate certain mechanic exploits? See, that is beyond the black and grey lines and you fail to call those elements out in to the public forum. Hypocrisy always has blinders on. People cannot call out the real truth because it hits too close to home. Goons have neither won or lost here, they are playing their game, that is it. All the tears and agony are right up their game play methods and you fell right in to it.
I would suggest that all the cry baby wanna be, do gooder white knight, increase CCP Gov'ment rules regulation, tree hugging, environmentalist, commy bass turd, low life, social game reject, suck asses go find a different game to play that only has pretty jeweled NPCs in it, cause playing a MMO that has combat interaction is obviously too much for you, not to mention and meta game attributes. Wtf are you on about? PS: DId you really need to write the same thing twice in both threads? Yes, because it was worth repeating. Such as numerous other posters... Wanted to make sure and catch both streams of unconscious dribble about the so called fairness doctrine when life ins't fair and this stream of BS is still BS.
Well I'm parital to agree with you to some extent, but I must admit bringing up BoB is beating a dead horse at this point. As for rejects, well pot meet kettle, I'm sure many would argue the merits of being on an MMO versus real life. But yes, I would not expect anything less from the mittani, like any good politician he is working as intended, and like a human being he has ****** up like every other human being. Everyone else is simply pushing their own agenda when it doesn't matter at all as long as the wis is alright, if he threatens suicide well he will have to live with such claims as it's nothing that is taken lightly, even if he faked it. Wether or not the mittani matches eula things or not this is a blemish on his record regardless hence the great outcry that has taken place. But I digress, I would just be patient, something 'has' to happen cause if nothing happens this thread will continue on and on.
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Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
66
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:23:00 -
[2751] - Quote
and on Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
Bobmon
Chaos Mercenaries BLACK-MARK
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:25:00 -
[2752] - Quote
MITTANI FOR CSM 7
DONT ***** IT HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE PEOPLE DO MORE STUPID **** THAN THIS |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:27:00 -
[2753] - Quote
Strangers waiting... Up and down the boulevard...
You all have "Don't stop believing." stuck in your heads, deal with it. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
324
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:29:00 -
[2754] - Quote
Nick Bison wrote:Laying it to rest.
This threadnaught has about run it's "useful" course as we have pretty much two polarized sides that must agree to disagree on this topic.
The only real steps to getting us all to move on (IMHO) would be:
1. Mittani to complete his Step 2 (Resign from CSM) heck, he'll be back in next year but, he said the words, and as a man I would expect him to keep to it. 2. CCP to issue some flavor of an "official" statement.
He might be back sooner than you think if he completes his resignation.
He is currently chair of CSM6. He could resign today and CSM can issue a statement. But on April 4th he will be offered the chair of CSM7 that he must accept because of the 10k votes.
See, problem solved. |
Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:35:00 -
[2755] - Quote
KanashiiKami wrote:Nick Bison wrote:Laying it to rest.
This threadnaught has about run it's "useful" course as we have pretty much two polarized sides that must agree to disagree on this topic.
The only real steps to getting us all to move on (IMHO) would be:
1. Mittani to complete his Step 2 (Resign from CSM) heck, he'll be back in next year but, he said the words, and as a man I would expect him to keep to it. 2. CCP to issue some flavor of an "official" statement.
not enough. CCP pls consider full account BAN on mittani
Yes, ban him for something outside of the game!
Some people's logic is gloriously bad.
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Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:36:00 -
[2756] - Quote
ExhumeToConsume wrote:Nick Bison wrote:Laying it to rest.
This threadnaught has about run it's "useful" course as we have pretty much two polarized sides that must agree to disagree on this topic.
The only real steps to getting us all to move on (IMHO) would be:
1. Mittani to complete his Step 2 (Resign from CSM) heck, he'll be back in next year but, he said the words, and as a man I would expect him to keep to it. 2. CCP to issue some flavor of an "official" statement.
3. Roadhouse is a most excellent film
4. Roadhouse is really a documentary. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
521
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:38:00 -
[2757] - Quote
So if we start talking about how this thread hasn't been locked will it get locked? Since that's talking about moderation and that gets threads locked?
I'm confused. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
775
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:42:00 -
[2758] - Quote
Lenrir Andven wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:Nick Bison wrote:Laying it to rest.
This threadnaught has about run it's "useful" course as we have pretty much two polarized sides that must agree to disagree on this topic.
The only real steps to getting us all to move on (IMHO) would be:
1. Mittani to complete his Step 2 (Resign from CSM) heck, he'll be back in next year but, he said the words, and as a man I would expect him to keep to it. 2. CCP to issue some flavor of an "official" statement.
not enough. CCP pls consider full account BAN on mittani Yes, ban him for something outside of the game! Some people's logic is gloriously bad.
If people should only be banned from the game because of in-game actions, then presumably you'd be quite happy to see him banned from future Fanfests since that's where the incident happened?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:42:00 -
[2759] - Quote
Xython wrote:So if we start talking about how this thread hasn't been locked will it get locked? Since that's talking about moderation and that gets threads locked?
I'm confused.
Have a beer. |
The F Word
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:43:00 -
[2760] - Quote
CCP's in a spot.
They really don't need additional negative press, and seeing if this thing will blow over is the logical first step. Then one of three things may happen:
CCP allows the guy to step down quietly - the mob is placated, and the Goons get over it. No dev blog needed - no press release - end of story.
CCP removes him from the CSM and issuing a temporary ban ( probably the most likely outcome ), followed by a simple clear cut statement regarding the rules. The mob is pleased, and the Goons have no leg to stand on.
CCP makes an example of him, forcibly removing him from his seat, and issuing a permanent ban along with a formal statement is another solution - albeit a more polarizing one. The mob is shocked at the severity of it, and the Goons get bent. |
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