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Ghoest	Posted - 2008.09.03 22:34:00 - [1] If it was a real sand box, players who dont want to pirate, gank in high sec, or war dec mission running corps - would be able to mark you guys and make you KOS then gang up to kill you with a zerg any time you entered high sec. It would be like the towns people with pitch forks stringing up a few bandits. But as it is you are protected so suck it up and endure the modest protections being given to players in high sec. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Duke Daniels Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.03 22:37:00 - [2] man, that'd be sweet, all those miners 2's would put the hurt on those griefers.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.09.03 22:37:00 - [3] ? Man, first CCP Greyscale mis-uses the term griefer and now every idiot thinks it is the new meme? -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.09.03 22:44:00 - [4] Edited by: Ghoest on 03/09/2008 22:44:04 1 Most high sec players are not pure miners. 2 I put "grief" in parenthesis and descibed the players I was talking about to make it clear - deal with it honey. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Terail Zoqial Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.03 22:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Vaal Erit ? Man, first CCP Greyscale mis-uses the term griefer and now every idiot thinks it is the new meme? They need the meme's such as risk vs reward, golden ratio, EVE IS A PVP GAME ONLY!!!! or they will get all lonely and confused.
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.03 22:48:00 - [6] Edited by: Esmenet on 03/09/2008 22:49:05 Originally by: Ghoest If it was a real sand box, players who dont want to pirate, gank in high sec, or war dec mission running corps - would be able to mark you guys and make you KOS then gang up to kill you with a zerg any time you entered high sec. It would be like the towns people with pitch forks stringing up a few bandits. But as it is you are protected so suck it up and endure the modest protections being given to players in high sec. The chance of getting high sec players organised and willing to do something like that is close to zero. It would be a lot more fun than the silly concord. Vote against the nano nerf!
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.03 22:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Ghoest Edited by: Ghoest on 03/09/2008 22:44:04 1 Most high sec players are not pure miners. Yeah, half of them are alts of 0.0 and low-sec people looking for a ISK printing machine. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.09.03 22:58:00 - [8] Edited by: Ghoest on 03/09/2008 22:58:31 1 You dont need organization f you can just do a townsfolk mob style zerg. The key here is permanently marking bad guys and making them free targets in high sec once they are bad enough. 2 Yep 0.0 earning money on missions is a lot of the high sec guys. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Saint Lazarus Spiorad ag fanaiocht	Posted - 2008.09.03 22:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Ghoest Edited by: Ghoest on 03/09/2008 22:44:04 1 Most high sec players are not pure miners. 2 I put "grief" in parenthesis and descibed the players I was talking about to make it clear - deal with it honey. OMG im not crazy he did just say "deal with it honey" -----------------
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.09.03 23:03:00 - [10] I know, calling me honey sure 'put me in my place' On the other hand I FULLY SUPPORT getting rid of concord and making me KOS to all high sec residents with security status of +5.0 or whatever. Bring it on. Sounds fun. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html

Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.09.03 23:04:00 - [11] "Deal with it honey". Ooh, gives me the warm and fuzzies. Now I need to get the cuddles on... -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.09.03 23:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Vaal Erit I know, calling me honey sure 'put me in my place' On the other hand I FULLY SUPPORT getting rid of concord and making me KOS to all high sec residents with security status of +5.0 or whatever. Bring it on. Sounds fun. RAWR, we'll band together and bring a RR BS gang that they'll never see coming. Next up, BOB invades Jita with a DDD... -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Farrqua Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.03 23:07:00 - [13] Edited by: Farrqua on 03/09/2008 23:07:10 Originally by: Vaal Erit I know, calling me honey sure 'put me in my place' On the other hand I FULLY SUPPORT getting rid of concord and making me KOS to all high sec residents with security status of +5.0 or whatever. Bring it on. Sounds fun. ^^This. Man that would be fun. Off to the assembly hall with this Ghoest. I will definitely support this.
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.09.03 23:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Vaal Erit On the other hand I FULLY SUPPORT getting rid of concord and making me KOS to all high sec residents with security status of +5.0 or whatever. Bring it on. Sounds fun. It would be hilarious. Vote against the nano nerf!
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:01:00 - [15] CCP is never going to get rid of Concord pwning pirates who start fights in high sec. But it would be easy enough for them to have Concord stop attacking for low faction. Basically let anyone who wants go anywhere there want - but if you have low sec you would be a target of oher players. It seems better for everybody than the current system. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Hiro Apropos	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Duke Daniels man, that'd be sweet, all those miners 2's would put the hurt on those griefers. My mining lasers can eat up an asteroid , but not hurt a ship hull.. never have understood that.. maybe .. its because they would be to overpowered?
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:09:00 - [17] Originally by: Vaal Erit I know, calling me honey sure 'put me in my place' On the other hand I FULLY SUPPORT getting rid of concord and making me KOS to all high sec residents with security status of +5.0 or whatever. Bring it on. Sounds fun. Agreed. Full credit to the OP for posting an excellent idea. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Vikarion Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:13:00 - [18] Originally by: Ghoest If it was a real sand box, players who dont want to pirate, gank in high sec, or war dec mission running corps - would be able to mark you guys and make you KOS then gang up to kill you with a zerg any time you entered high sec. It would be like the towns people with pitch forks stringing up a few bandits. But as it is you are protected so suck it up and endure the modest protections being given to players in high sec. I love this idea. Please replace CONCORD with this, CCP! Maybe carebears DO have the occasional good idea! -------- EVE - The only non-consensual PvP MMORPG* *Note: does not contain non-consensual PvP as of 8/3/2008
doctorstupid2 The Accursed	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Ghoest Edited by: Ghoest on 03/09/2008 22:44:04 1 Most high sec players are not pure miners. 2 I put "grief" in parenthesis and descibed the players I was talking about to make it clear - deal with it honey. Those are called quotes. Honey. Abusive \| Deadspace \| Deadspace2
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.09.04 23:53:00 - [20] Those are called quotes. Honey. They are actually "quotation marks" - Stupid. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.

murder one Gallente Invincible Reason	Posted - 2008.09.05 00:06:00 - [21] Originally by: Ghoest If it was a real sand box, players who dont want to pirate, gank in high sec, or war dec mission running corps - would be able to mark you guys and make you KOS then gang up to kill you with a zerg any time you entered high sec. It would be like the towns people with pitch forks stringing up a few bandits. But as it is you are protected so suck it up and endure the modest protections being given to players in high sec. That would be awesome, quite frankly. To wit: I've suggested this type of game design many times over. How to do it: allow anyone into high sec. Even -10 players. Allow them to roam around wherever they want. You want to have groups of 'good' players go after 'bad' players with pitchforks? Please do. All you need to do is allow pirates/anyone with low sec status to enter any security space. They can be attacked at will by any player (if they're -5.0 sec or lower) and can only return fire once attacked. It's like can flipping, but without the can. High sec standing players can engage freely against low sec standing players, and outlaw players have to behave, just as everyone does now otherwise be Concorded. Oh, and if you really want to go after the existing 'bad guys', what is to stop multiple corps or alliances from war deccing the 'bad guys' and going after them yourselves? [07:13:55] doctorstupid2 > what do i train now? [07:14:05] Trista Rotnor > little boys to 2 Fleet Combat Ships
doctorstupid2 The Accursed	Posted - 2008.09.05 00:14:00 - [22] Originally by: Ghoest Those are called quotes. Honey. They are actually "quotation marks" - Stupid. I'm not the one that called them "parenthesis," which is the singular of a pair of parentheses, stupid. Abusive \| Deadspace \| Deadspace2
Dirtee Girl Omega Enterprises	Posted - 2008.09.05 00:17:00 - [23] Originally by: Ghoest If it was a real sand box, players who dont want to pirate, gank in high sec, or war dec mission running corps - would be able to mark you guys and make you KOS then gang up to kill you with a zerg any time you entered high sec. It would be like the towns people with pitch forks stringing up a few bandits. But as it is you are protected so suck it up and endure the modest protections being given to players in high sec. problem is you can ..... and dont right? i mean privateers go out just for fun what to stop you from banding together and doing this now ... oh yeah effort.... silly me * *
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:00:00 - [24] Originally by: doctorstupid2 Originally by: Ghoest Those are called quotes. Honey. They are actually "quotation marks" - Stupid. I'm not the one that called them "parenthesis," which is the singular of a pair of parentheses, stupid. Forum ban IMO. Its a personal attack when you call me "stupid" - stupid. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Vikarion Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:02:00 - [25] Originally by: Ghoest Forum ban IMO. Its a personal attack when you call me "stupid" - stupid. Running to the mods/devs again to silence all opposition? How...typical. They can forum ban him/her for calling you stupid after they forum ban you for making the sexist comment "honey". -------- EVE - The only non-consensual PvP MMORPG* *Note: does not contain non-consensual PvP as of 8/3/2008
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:04:00 - [26] If you're using the 'sandbox' analogy, it is most definitely a sandbox. The big, bad guy comes over and kicks sand in your face. What are you going to do about it? Cry, and run away? Or, pick up a rock, and smack him in the head? Since when have you ever seen kids fighting in a sandbox, and one kid screams out, only to have the Teachers come over and beat the shit out of the other kid? Man, you need to work on your analogies. p.s. Your idea is dumb. /me kicks sand in your face. We're Recruiting!
Vikarion Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:06:00 - [27] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn If you're using the 'sandbox' analogy, it is most definitely a sandbox. The big, bad guy comes over and kicks sand in your face. What are you going to do about it? Cry, and run away? Or, pick up a rock, and smack him in the head? Since when have you ever seen kids fighting in a sandbox, and one kid screams out, only to have the Teachers come over and beat the shit out of the other kid? Man, you need to work on your analogies. p.s. Your idea is dumb. /me kicks sand in your face. I agree. Said better than I could have. -------- EVE - The only non-consensual PvP MMORPG* *Note: does not contain non-consensual PvP as of 8/3/2008
Thorexion Lynch Gallente Snake Assault	Posted - 2008.09.05 10:00:00 - [28] Edited by: Thorexion Lynch on 05/09/2008 10:02:42 Originally by: Saint Lazarus Originally by: Ghoest Edited by: Ghoest on 03/09/2008 22:44:04 1 Most high sec players are not pure miners. 2 I put "grief" in parenthesis and descibed the players I was talking about to make it clear - deal with it honey. OMG im not crazy he did just say "deal with it honey" Next time he's/she's/it's going snap his fingers and say "oh no you di'nt girlfriend" Also, personally i don't get why people whine about so many people in highsec and not enough in lowsec, I'm thinking maybe if every time they went to lowsec they didn't get blobbed more people would go there and not have to spend their time making the isk to get another ship. (not sure if that part is relevant here but I'm tired and posted here) -Thor
Havohej Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.09.05 10:06:00 - [29] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn If you're using the 'sandbox' analogy, it is most definitely a sandbox. The big, bad guy comes over and kicks sand in your face. What are you going to do about it? Cry, and run away? Or, pick up a rock, and smack him in the head? Since when have you ever seen kids fighting in a sandbox, and one kid screams out, only to have the Teachers come over and beat the shit out of the other kid? Man, you need to work on your analogies. p.s. Your idea is dumb. /me kicks sand in your face. <3 Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
Shagrath Neptune Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.09.05 10:09:00 - [30] Edited by: Shagrath Neptune on 05/09/2008 10:09:11 Originally by: Vaal Erit ? Man, first CCP Greyscale mis-uses the term griefer and now every idiot thinks it is the new meme? Yep just like phrases and buzz words such as "cold and harsh" and "ludicrous speed" were posted at one time or another and everyone thinks it is cool to repeat them over and over. Not to mention some geek looked up some Latin and now everyone trying to appear intelligent uses "ad hominem" accusations to refute arguments.



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