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fkingfurious	Posted - 2008.08.27 22:57:00 - [1] For a ship that is alledgedly the only Minmatar BS worth bothering with in PvP very little actually seems to get written here about setups. This suggests 2 things, either nobody really flies cos it is actually a pile of shite and the people saying it isnt are trying to block a possible buff OR the setups people use are so awesome noone wants to share them. So i thought i'd post the setup I'm about to put together and probably get blown up and see if anyone has any comments: 4x Siege II w/ CN Torps 3x Heavy Unstable Neut 100MN MWD II, Medium Injector II, J5 Warp Disrupter, Fleeting Web 3x 1600RT, 2x EANM II, DCU II, BCU II 3x Trimark CPU is ridiculously tight hence the named EWAR, tech2 somply wont fit. Comes in at 133K (depending on skills) EHP and 750 ish DPS. I get 745 (I think) with Minnie BS4 and Siege spec 4 and 5x Ogre II. The Injector provides enough cap to run 2 of the Neuts forever with ease, and although EFT claims it can actually support all 3 at 36% cap I wouldnt wanna try it. A few seconds of lag and you're capped out and in serious trouble. So, its DPS isnt awful, not quite the same level as your average gank BS but the 3 Neuts should more than make up for it. It's EHP is pretty good though, particularly for a tier one and thanks in no small part to only fitting one damage mod. My other idea for a fit was to drop the BCU for another plate, and bin the neuts off for 4x D650II. Also allows you to drop the injector for a painter and use Rage Torps for a bit more DPS. A setup like that comes in at 155K or more EHP and between 900 and 950 DPS. So, what y'all reckon?
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.27 23:11:00 - [2] I think it'll handle like a brick and doesn't have enough gank. -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
NeoTheo Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.08.27 23:15:00 - [3] Originally by: Liang Nuren I think it'll handle like a brick and doesn't have enough gank. -Liang so go on then, share, i wanna hear anyhow ;P Neotheo Dark Materials Linkage
Samaritan Azuma Gallente Trans Eve Organization	Posted - 2008.08.27 23:16:00 - [4] get used to the idea of things handling like bricks guys........... TREO custodian
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.08.27 23:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Samaritan Azuma get used to the idea of things handling like bricks guys........... lol quoted for truth Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
fkingfurious	Posted - 2008.08.27 23:20:00 - [6] Originally by: Liang Nuren I think it'll handle like a brick and doesn't have enough gank. -Liang Well, with less plates it not got enough toughness, and cos of the stupid split weapons getting it up to say Geddon levels of gank requires like 3 or 4 damage mods. Whereas i was kinda hoping that having 3 heavy neuts and a still reasonable amount of DPS would be enough to swing things in favour of the Trash Can. Still, no-ones posted an improvement which is leading me to believe that the much hyped Typhoon is actually a bit shit.
Boz Well Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.27 23:33:00 - [7] Try something like this, and adjust to taste: [Typhoon, New Setup 1] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Ballistic Control System II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Warp Disruptor II Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.28 07:26:00 - [8] I finally got home (work emergency): [Typhoon, Ecky X's Typhoon] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Target Painter II Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 [Typhoon, Proposed Phoon] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Faint Warp Prohibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Jonna Andromedae	Posted - 2008.08.28 07:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Liang Nuren I think it'll handle like a brick and doesn't have enough gank. -Liang LMAO, never heard about upcoming nanonerf?
royal killer Amarr The Funkalistic	Posted - 2008.08.28 09:13:00 - [10] Lmfao love the name of the post --------------------

Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.28 15:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Jonna Andromedae LMAO, never heard about upcoming nanonerf? LMAO, did you not notice the three plates and three trimarks? There's a difference between "handles like a cruiser", "handles like a battleship", "handles like a fat slow battleship", and "handles like a brick". -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
CoLe Blackblood Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.28 18:58:00 - [12] Typhoon stinks don't use it! neutphoon is nasty. nanophoon(RIP) is still king
fkingfurious	Posted - 2008.08.28 21:29:00 - [13] Handle like a brick it may well do. However, how many geddons, apocs, abadonns, domis and megas run 2 or 3 plates and 3 trimarks? Most i suspect. And it does at least have the ability to project all its damage out to max warp disrupter range. 25km on the Neuts, 30 odd on Javelins and the drones will get there eventually. I guess my point is that the ship doesnt actually rely on being in web range or kiting or whatever to do pretty much all the damage its capable of to a target. Though i supose neither do stupid Megapulse amarr pwnmobiles with their silly Scorch ammo. In fact, on reflection its only the dumb-ass Megathron that ends up being big and heavy AND having to get to 3km to do any damage. Stupid Gallente.
Karenzi No Trademark Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.08.28 22:12:00 - [14] Edited by: Karenzi on 28/08/2008 22:15:14 correct me if im wrong liang but Eckys X fit is over by 35CPU (5%)... i usually fly your second setup with full rack of guns instead of the nuets/nos and i have to use 1 adaptive nano

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