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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cyberman Mastermind on 27/08/2008 09:41:09 Edited by: Cyberman Mastermind on 27/08/2008 09:40:20
Originally by: Krxon Blade Exceptions should be allowed.
Exceptions shouldn't be necessary.
IF there is a good reason to remove those silent giants from high-sec, then I'm sure we'd accept the loss of the Veldnaught (and the others). Till now, though, no one could think up a good reason. And CCP remains silent...
[edit ] "Good reason" does not include "Duh, it's obivous" or "Capital ships do not belong to high-sec". Neither is "CCP says so - now". |
TalonClark
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:40:00 -
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Edited by: TalonClark on 27/08/2008 09:41:06 This is stupid, and a sign of "overregulation" at CCP...i see all old devs are gone and now got replaced by burocratic ones eh?
1. it never posed any problem at all, so there is no need to change this. 2. after what, 3 years, you realize its a problem? sure... 3. this capitals in highsec are te remnants of "history" and as such added another layer to EVE, something to speak about. You know, that "once uppon a time" thing, when i tell a noobie and he maybe goes over there to see it and feels the depth of "EVE history".
Really, get your acts together CCP. It seems to me more and more that you are getting out of touch with the game. PLZ get one of the old DEVs back so that he keeps the vision on track. THX.
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Yaar Podshipnik
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:42:00 -
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The Veldnaught & Co. were totally harmless. What is the reason for removing them?
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Smertrios
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:42:00 -
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I really hope there is a good reason for this, as there really does not appear to be one. I used to feel that CCP really cared about the player community and i put a large part of the success of EVE and CCP down to that great 2 way communitcation. Lately that communication has dried up and CCP's attitude to game changes and community has also drastically changed. Game changes used to happen slowly in incremental stages, change something small and see what the effects are, then make more changes if necessary. Before each change CCP would go to great lenghts to explain the changes, why they were needed and what they hope will happen with the changes. They gave us a vision or at least a glimps of where they want to go with the game and we were content. It seems now that a giant cleaver has replaced the scalpel and our views are no longer important. Little to no information is given about changes, changes have become more drastic and little to no feedback is given to the community on the forums. Dev blogs have all but dried up, very few to any CCp replies are seen on the forums and I/we are rapidly losing faith in CCP and EVE.
This decision is stupid, or at least seems to be, CCP please give us an explanation or, if its a mistake then correct it.
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Shamharoth
Gallente Beach Boys BeachBoys
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:44:00 -
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Let's remove Alliance Tournaments, Veldnaughts so that newbies won't say OMAGAD HE HAZ SUMTHIN I CANT HAZ CCP FIX PLOX.
Also, let's give them cool badges and diplomas so they can prove they're cool.
Wow CCP. You're so ****ed when Warhammer Online makes it to the stores.
Chribba, good luck with this, but CCP has shown already that they're just aiming for the Darwin Award of the year 2008.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Originally by: Smagd
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux"
First they came for the suicide gankers and I didn't speak up because I didn't suicide gank
Then they came for the Veldnaught and I didn't speak up because I didn't have a Veldnaught.
Then they came for the Opux Luxury Yacht and I didn't speak up because I didn't have an Opux Luxury Yact.
Then they came for the T2 BPOs and I didn't speak up because I didnt' have a T2 BPO.
And then they came for me, and no one spoke up because they were all playing Warhammer Online.
Well sung. Make EVE more boring, CCP, sure why don't you? When are you going nerf the Apotheosis? Snowballs and Veldnoughts were too dangerous, surely there must be a way to exploit a shuttle?
Oy! *I* wanted to quote what I said on SHC here!
Sorry about that mate.
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Amberly Coteaz
Amarr The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux"
First they came for the suicide gankers and I didn't speak up because I didn't suicide gank
Then they came for the Veldnaught and I didn't speak up because I didn't have a Veldnaught.
Then they came for the Opux Luxury Yacht and I didn't speak up because I didn't have an Opux Luxury Yact.
Then they came for the T2 BPOs and I didn't speak up because I didnt' have a T2 BPO.
And then they came for me, and no one spoke up because they were all playing Warhammer Online.
The Veldnaught was the first cap I saw up close back when I started the game and Chribba was such a friendly guy when I was there
If you find yourself in a fair fight, something went wrong
Originally by: Patch86 OK people, Amberly Coteaz has won life for the time being. Everyone go home and wait for the round reset.
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Drebble
Gallente North Star Networks Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:46:00 -
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I am a relatively speaking new EVE player, and I heard legends about the Veldnaught when I just started playing.
It is saddening to see a pearl of player-made content be erased by some pencil-pusher with no sense of EVE history.
CCP dont lose touch with the game just because you shuffle a lot of people to the World of Darkness project!
Kick the intern that did this atrocity and put some real CCP staff in charge.
I demand the Veldnaught be reinstated!
//Drebble
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:50:00 -
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Maybe CCP just had to roll the hard six?
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:50:00 -
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Lack of dev replies speaks louder than a dev blog could.
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Case Kovaks
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: Case Kovaks on 27/08/2008 09:53:58 Despite the fact this is 10 pages long, it is only 4 hours old. They probably havnt got into work yet.
Someone in CCP management is going to give the Dev team a seriously bad day when they get in and find a 40 page thread I think
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Seetesh
Caldari Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:54:00 -
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Noo not the veldnaught
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Case Kovaks Edited by: Case Kovaks on 27/08/2008 09:53:58 Despite the fact this is 10 pages long, it is only 4 hours old. They probably havnt got into work yet.
Someone in CCP management is going to give the Dev team a seriously bad day when they get in and find a 40 page thread I think
You'll soon notice the unwritten rule of "the more outrage and replies in a thread, the less inclined Devs will be to answer".
It just goes to show that CCP silently backs up any decision made by their newb GM's who never played the game, no matter how stupid and wrong it is.
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Tuvar Hiede
Caldari Cold Suns Squadron
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Case Kovaks Edited by: Case Kovaks on 27/08/2008 09:53:58 Despite the fact this is 10 pages long, it is only 4 hours old. They probably havnt got into work yet.
Someone in CCP management is going to give the Dev team a seriously bad day when they get in and find a 40 page thread I think
As sad as I am about this, I can't help but laugh if thats right, Imagine, they get into work, and there is a 40 page thread there, headed by Chribba, one of the more friendly and colourful eve characters, baying for their heads... someone is going to get their ass kicked I would think then..
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Ava Baby
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ava Baby on 27/08/2008 09:59:56
Originally by: Drebble ...I heard legends about the Veldnaught when I just started playing...
//Drebble
I too heard about it and the love cans, it would be a shame to remove an existing pace of EVE history. Also, I think it would be a disservice to the EVE community to remove the "historical role" from players who have actually been a part of that history.
Originally by: Asestorian I support this message. Whatever it is.
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Szap Light
Caldari Minds Of Space Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:57:00 -
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I support Chribba! I do not like the direction in which ccp seems to go.
After all the game is for us and not for ccp themselves.
Is this the kind of thanks for Chribba who has done so much for Eve?
It seems so.
I would like the CSM to act here.
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:58:00 -
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Pointless and dumb indeed
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Tarek Tarazul
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Case Kovaks Edited by: Case Kovaks on 27/08/2008 09:53:58 Despite the fact this is 10 pages long, it is only 4 hours old. They probably havnt got into work yet.
Someone in CCP management is going to give the Dev team a seriously bad day when they get in and find a 40 page thread I think
When i first came upon this thread it grew faster than i could read it. I just wanted to repost the "show your support" post from page 3.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=856275
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Case Kovaks
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Case Kovaks on 27/08/2008 10:00:13 EDIT: I put the quote in as the post I as replying to had shot up the page while I was writing that
Originally by: ApaKaka
You'll soon notice the unwritten rule of "the more outrage and replies in a thread, the less inclined Devs will be to answer".
It just goes to show that CCP silently backs up any decision made by their newb GM's who never played the game, no matter how stupid and wrong it is.
No matter what outward stance CCP takes there are going to be internal reprecussions I think, if purely from the business standpoint that this is is going to cost CCP money. This isnt a bunch of people whining about nano nerf because theyw ant to whine but a different secion of the player base. If chribba goes, the publicity and dissappointment surrounding that will take a hell of a lot of subs with it.
Chances are that won't affect what they say to us but this will lose money and there are people higher up than the Devs who are going to be pretty annoyed about that.
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Dr Jekill
Caldari Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Last in a long line of STUPIDÖ choices CCP made recently.
/QFT
CCP you are just plain WRONG on this. Vera Lynn --------------------------------------------- Born in London in 1917 became one of the most famous voices of World War II Vera's most popular song was "We'll Meet Again" |
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 27/08/2008 10:01:10
Originally by: Tarek Tarazul
Originally by: Case Kovaks Edited by: Case Kovaks on 27/08/2008 09:53:58 Despite the fact this is 10 pages long, it is only 4 hours old. They probably havnt got into work yet.
Someone in CCP management is going to give the Dev team a seriously bad day when they get in and find a 40 page thread I think
When i first came upon this thread it grew faster than i could read it. I just wanted to repost the "show your support" post from page 3. Linkage
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux"
First they came for the suicide gankers and I didn't speak up because I didn't suicide gank
Then they came for the Veldnaught and I didn't speak up because I didn't have a Veldnaught.
Then they came for the Opux Luxury Yacht and I didn't speak up because I didn't have an Opux Luxury Yact.
Then they came for the T2 BPOs and I didn't speak up because I didnt' have a T2 BPO.
And then they came for me, and no one spoke up because they were all playing Warhammer Online.
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Ashlee Darksky
Minmatar Forum Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:01:00 -
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CCP panders once again to the carebares and pro-nerf-whiners on the forums, once again we take another step towards becoming WoW in space. When is it going to end? I can't even shoot fleet members anymore
Anyway, I'm off to design my next ship;
Hi: Sword Sword Crossbow Dagger
Med: Breastplate Helmet Rucksack
Low: First aid Bandages Water
Rigs: Kettle A fire Fishing net
Please let me know what you think of this fit... If it could tank more damage I would be interested to hear... or do you think it lacks DPS? Coming to a solar system near you... soon... probably...
PS - Sorry to hear about the Veldnaught Chribba
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> I see fail everywhere, and it's like they don't even know they're failing
> Bring me the heads of 10 carebears, 5 bottles of BBQ sauce, firewood and a box of matches! |
Case Kovaks
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:03:00 -
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Theres a CSM thread you can show your support in HERE.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:03:00 -
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Aww comoon people. Stop this maddness. Their game, their rules.
They want to remove caps from hisec for reason X .. so be it.
Stop this NERD RAGE now!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Case Kovaks Edited by: Case Kovaks on 27/08/2008 10:00:13 EDIT: I put the quote in as the post I as replying to had shot up the page while I was writing that
Originally by: ApaKaka
You'll soon notice the unwritten rule of "the more outrage and replies in a thread, the less inclined Devs will be to answer".
It just goes to show that CCP silently backs up any decision made by their newb GM's who never played the game, no matter how stupid and wrong it is.
No matter what outward stance CCP takes there are going to be internal reprecussions I think, if purely from the business standpoint that this is is going to cost CCP money. This isnt a bunch of people whining about nano nerf because theyw ant to whine but a different secion of the player base. If chribba goes, the publicity and dissappointment surrounding that will take a hell of a lot of subs with it.
Chances are that won't affect what they say to us but this will lose money and there are people higher up than the Devs who are going to be pretty annoyed about that.
Frankly, I think most GMs and Devs never really played the game or read the forums or even know who Chribba is. They are told they should play Eve when they start their first day, and they probably log in, and play around in the hangar a while and then go to the huge list of TO-DO's in their work and never return.
So, what we're seeing here is pretty much CCP going from being a dedicated core of developers to the"JAC - Just Another Company"-model. Just like Google. Just like all the great and interesting companies in the past.
They probably don't care that if Chribba would've been on their payroll, veldnaught tattoo's and hordes of supporting fan-sites (eve-files etc) and all, would be the freaking most fantastic PR win for them. Or they just don't know.
Either way, they suck.
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Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:05:00 -
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Sure this has already been said but this continues a trend of removing player created content from the game.
Some other notable examples are when they nerfed illegal trade goods, making them sellable in stations, killing off a whole underground roleplay scene revolving around smuggling drugs
Removing cans killed off can art and massively nerfed the Molea cemetary, but consideration to these things was only given by CCP as an afterthought when people complained
_______ People like that don't have friends just temporary common interests.
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Dee Carson
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:06:00 -
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Chribba:
CCP may disrespect your rights as they choose, but know that the players recognize your iconic stature, no matter how many of your hard-earned toys CCP steals.
CCP:
Shame on you!
Dee Carson Director of Operations Eve University
Any opinions expressed in this post are mine and do not represent official Eve University policy.
Join channel: "Eve University" for more info. |
Gaia Thorn
Villains
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Gaia Thorn on 27/08/2008 10:07:43
Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind Edited by: Cyberman Mastermind on 27/08/2008 09:41:09 Edited by: Cyberman Mastermind on 27/08/2008 09:40:20
Originally by: Krxon Blade Exceptions should be allowed.
Exceptions shouldn't be necessary.
IF there is a good reason to remove those silent giants from high-sec, then I'm sure we'd accept the loss of the Veldnaught (and the others). Till now, though, no one could think up a good reason. And CCP remains silent...
[edit ] "Good reason" does not include "Duh, it's obivous" or "Capital ships do not belong to high-sec". Neither is "CCP says so - now".
Hows this for a reason they made a rule about them not being in high sec ?
END of discussion if u dont like it adapt or leave welcome to new eve online.
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Szap Light
Caldari Minds Of Space Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.08.27 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Szap Light on 27/08/2008 10:17:39 I created a thread in the CSM Forums so that it will be brought up as a Topic to CCP which they MUST answer.
Edit: Sry i Have overlooked there allready was one open. Look HERE and support us
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