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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Arte
Originally by: Sheriff Jones ...but keep it cool honeys.
You're acting mighty sheriff-ey there Sheriff Jones
Good points.
Hehe, trying my best
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Sheriff Jones And people need to remember that CCP probably, MOST likely, don't care about Chribba or any INDIVIDUAL ingame when doing changes.
There's a issue:
Highsec capitals.
There was NO issue. The issue was dealt with. The problem here isn't just that CCP handled an "issue" rashly - it's that there was no issue and they nerfed someone anyway.
There was no reason for this. None.
And, even if I'm wrong and by some infinitesimal chance CCP does have a good reason for this, why on earth would they not tell us before hand?
Communication problem is granted, it's a known thing. By issue i meant that in games everything is an issue, "this mining issue", "this market issue". You know?
Highsec capitals have always been, must have been, on the seesaw and today it seems the seesaw is falling towards moving them. Give it time, don't blow a hole in the wall before the messenger has spoken.
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:45:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Vikarion
And, even if I'm wrong and by some infinitesimal chance CCP does have a good reason for this, why on earth would they not tell us before hand?
Because CCP lost the way of properly communicating with their customers. ----------
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bnogo
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:46:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Sheriff Jones And people need to remember that CCP probably, MOST likely, don't care about Chribba or any INDIVIDUAL ingame when doing changes.
There's a issue:
Highsec capitals.
There was NO issue. The issue was dealt with. The problem here isn't just that CCP handled an "issue" rashly - it's that there was no issue and they nerfed someone anyway.
There was no reason for this. None.
And, even if I'm wrong and by some infinitesimal chance CCP does have a good reason for this, why on earth would they not tell us before hand?
Communication problem is granted, it's a known thing. By issue i meant that in games everything is an issue, "this mining issue", "this market issue". You know?
Highsec capitals have always been, must have been, on the seesaw and today it seems the seesaw is falling towards moving them. Give it time, don't blow a hole in the wall before the messenger has spoken.
i would not say there was an issue with capitals. there were set rules, we ignore the caps unless you act naughty. you end up with unique ships and we don't have to do anything.
now it is within ccp's rights to change this. but to do so without real notice or explanation is what is causing the problem.
i wouldn't be replying so much but i'm trying to keep topic at top :)
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:46:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Highsec capitals have always been, must have been, on the seesaw and today it seems the seesaw is falling towards moving them. Give it time, don't blow a hole in the wall before the messenger has spoken.
Why should we have to wait until the "messenger has spoken"? Any CCP employee with a grain of intelligence should have known the firestorm this would cause, and communicated to the player base before hand.
The fact that no one spoke to either the owners of the hi-sec capitals or the players at large bespeaks of an abysmal ignorance of what the players enjoy/need, or a complete apathy to it.
I vote both. --------
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Arte
AFK
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:47:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Hehe, trying my best
Do we get a sketch about this?
I think the main reason behind the uproar is that no-one saw this coming. Have there been any incidents of people abusing their cap ships in hi-sec If there were, you might understand the reasoning behind the need for the change. It all just leaves a sour taste in the mouth
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Ricier
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:49:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Vikarion
And, even if I'm wrong and by some infinitesimal chance CCP does have a good reason for this, why on earth would they not tell us before hand?
Because CCP lost the way of properly communicating with their customers.
CCP only answers quetsions from reporters check out http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/news
There is more news about eve there then on this site.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:50:00 -
[187]
Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/08/2008 08:51:07
Originally by: bnogo i would not say there was an issue with capitals. there were set rules, we ignore the caps unless you act naughty. you end up with unique ships and we don't have to do anything.
now it is within ccp's rights to change this. but to do so without real notice or explanation is what is causing the problem.
i wouldn't be replying so much but i'm trying to keep topic at top :)
Aye and it's understandable really. Communication is in the works, CSM and all that, so let's try to remember that it's like...well....parent/kid communication, most the time you don't know why or how it's happening, but you usually just conform and obey your parents
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Highsec capitals have always been, must have been, on the seesaw and today it seems the seesaw is falling towards moving them. Give it time, don't blow a hole in the wall before the messenger has spoken.
Why should we have to wait until the "messenger has spoken"? Any CCP employee with a grain of intelligence should have known the firestorm this would cause, and communicated to the player base before hand.
The fact that no one spoke to either the owners of the hi-sec capitals or the players at large bespeaks of an abysmal ignorance of what the players enjoy/need, or a complete apathy to it.
I vote both.
Now now, the devs don't know the players like the players do. Many in CCP might not even know Chribba. Especially since many people are in charge of many things. As such, they probably didn't know it would cause THIS much trouble. These kind of oversights happen, so before it's confirmed, as in, the messenger has spoken, let's not hang or shoot somenoe just yet
Originally by: Arte
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Hehe, trying my best
Do we get a sketch about this?
When things cool down
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:50:00 -
[188]
Duh! What an utterly completely stupid move by CCP.
So many things are so moronic about this decision, and most of these things have already been well presented in this thread. Player created landmarks is one of the key features in EVE that makes it different from sterile MMO worlds, where players have no possibility to leave a mark behind them.
I too would very much like an explanation to why the Veldnaught suddenly had to go, besides providing CCP an opportunity to **** their playerbase off. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:51:00 -
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Edited by: Terianna Eri on 27/08/2008 08:52:14
Originally by: Ricier
Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Vikarion
And, even if I'm wrong and by some infinitesimal chance CCP does have a good reason for this, why on earth would they not tell us before hand?
Because CCP lost the way of properly communicating with their customers.
CCP only answers quetsions from reporters check out http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/news
There is more news about eve there then on this site.
Quotin dis. Why do most of the interviews (as far as I can remember, all) show up on third-party sites first? ("first", of course, if the interviews ever show up on the eve site officially at all)
Fun fact CCP - your current players care more about what you have to say than any reporter or potential player does.
Bah, I'm going to bed. Enough of this shit - I'm sure this thread will be here tomorrow. __________________________________ CCP, WTH?
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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SIlver Light
Minmatar C0RP 1
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:52:00 -
[190]
What the hell
That's bullshit ------ Proud Member of 5punkorp |
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The Herrick
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:53:00 -
[191]
CCP be honest here, you just roll a dice to see what you should change next don't you?
Can't see any reason for this other then showing off that you can do such a thing.
Just move ALL the caps back in highsec that have been hit by this and give them a special capital mining fighter/laser for looks (even if it's the same yield as a T1 laser/drone) as a peace offering.
Or t the very least an explanation/apology for doing this.
Originally by: Blane Xero Screw your stuff, can I have your wife?
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:54:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Now now, the devs don't know the players like the players do. Many in CCP might not even know Chribba. Especially since many people are in charge of many things. As such, they probably didn't know it would cause THIS much trouble. These kind of oversights happen, so before it's confirmed, as in, the messenger has spoken, let's not hang or shoot somenoe just yet
Again, CCP has had plenty of time to realize that their communication problems are sub-par, and to fix them. These problems have occurred many times over, with similar undertones.
So it's either apathy or malice. --------
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:54:00 -
[193]
total bullshit not even telling us before hand what the **** don't they know who we are?
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Hayman Wakefield
Caldari Trans-Stellar Salvage Shipping and Securities
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:55:00 -
[194]
Another sad day for CCP, through all the balances I've held tight always trusting where they were going but this is just pointless and to be honest mean.
Eve appears to be getting more and more soulless. A real sense of interaction with the comunity being replaced by a cold faceless front.
Thanks for pushing me just that bit closer to the emorageiquit button and deciding whether to go to fanfest for the first time, not now
Originally by: Capt Harlock "I have a mouse with a green tail". It's tail may or may not be green. The car however is mating with a monkey".
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:57:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Now now, the devs don't know the players like the players do. Many in CCP might not even know Chribba. Especially since many people are in charge of many things. As such, they probably didn't know it would cause THIS much trouble. These kind of oversights happen, so before it's confirmed, as in, the messenger has spoken, let's not hang or shoot somenoe just yet
Again, CCP has had plenty of time to realize that their communication problems are sub-par, and to fix them. These problems have occurred many times over, with similar undertones.
So it's either apathy or malice.
It's neither, it jsut takes time. Things take time, we need to give 'em time. If you feel you need to take a break, give that time and use it somewhere else and then return when you feel it's "ok", you have the right.
But as it stands, things don't happen overnight, they don't happen overyear even. There's changes and stuff to do, so jsut hang in there, or put EVE on pause(without terminating your stuff ) and do something else.
Hope you stay, understand if you don't, and welcome when you return.
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente aurorae pacificas
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:59:00 -
[196]
Edited by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik on 27/08/2008 08:59:57 You have my support Chribba and all hi-sec cap owners. Really poor choice on this one, CCP. Personally I have met a couple of people who own unique assets in Eve. I think it was a cool little tidbit to have chribba out there mining in a dread.
Just one question though- are you going to get that Veld tat lazored off any time soon because of this?
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:01:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Now now, the devs don't know the players like the players do. Many in CCP might not even know Chribba. Especially since many people are in charge of many things. As such, they probably didn't know it would cause THIS much trouble. These kind of oversights happen, so before it's confirmed, as in, the messenger has spoken, let's not hang or shoot somenoe just yet
Again, CCP has had plenty of time to realize that their communication problems are sub-par, and to fix them. These problems have occurred many times over, with similar undertones.
So it's either apathy or malice.
It's neither, it jsut takes time. Things take time, we need to give 'em time. If you feel you need to take a break, give that time and use it somewhere else and then return when you feel it's "ok", you have the right.
But as it stands, things don't happen overnight, they don't happen overyear even. There's changes and stuff to do, so jsut hang in there, or put EVE on pause(without terminating your stuff ) and do something else.
Hope you stay, understand if you don't, and welcome when you return.
Well, I gotta head to bed, so they have until I get back from work tomorrow.
But yeah, Fallout 3 is looking pretty entertaining. And I have Oblivion. I can always play those. --------
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:02:00 -
[198]
Oh, and PS to Chribba:
If I were you, I'd take down those 3rd party sites, at least until CCP grow a brain. No sense in supporting those who stab you in the back. I'd willingly accept the sacrifice. --------
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fivetide humidyear
Gallente EXCESS10N
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:03:00 -
[199]
as stated earlier, get a grip guys.
For chribba, of all people, to have to post like this is poor on so many levels
That is assuming the remotely senior people at CCP even care anymore.
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Tom Perrish
Mystic Lion Hearts Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:05:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Vikarion Oh, and PS to Chribba:
If I were you, I'd take down those 3rd party sites, at least until CCP grow a brain. No sense in supporting those who stab you in the back. I'd willingly accept the sacrifice.
so punishing the playerbase for ccp's actions?
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:06:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Tom Perrish
Originally by: Vikarion Oh, and PS to Chribba:
If I were you, I'd take down those 3rd party sites, at least until CCP grow a brain. No sense in supporting those who stab you in the back. I'd willingly accept the sacrifice.
so punishing the playerbase for ccp's actions?
I prefer to think of it as an "incentive" to get the rest of us to keep yelling at CCP.
Ok, honest, last post. NN all. --------
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:07:00 -
[202]
Originally by: fivetide humidyear as stated earlier, get a grip guys.
For chribba, of all people, to have to post like this is poor on so many levels
That is assuming the remotely senior people at CCP even care anymore.
you really think it's ok for them to do stuff without telling anyone?
what's wrong with a player making the same announcement ccp should have?
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Ledoux Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:07:00 -
[203]
Even if there was a good reason to do this (and I won't deny the possibility), it would still be nice if CCP anchored "Chribba's Veldnaught" (NPC Revelation/monument) in a belt in Amarr. _
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Gaia Thorn
Villains
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:08:00 -
[204]
suck it up..
CCP is just changing something that has been broken for a long time.
The natural order of the univers have to into alignment. I mean who cares who much people have paid for things.
Just take a look at speed nerf how much doesnt a snake implant set go for and the other implants ?
Guessing more then a moros in highsec!
Just becuase you are chribba shouldnt hold any more weight then the rest of us.
Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:09:00 -
[205]
WTF.
That's just unbelievably lame, CCP. I look forward to hearing your pathetic attempts at justifying such an unwelcome move.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 27/08/2008 09:09:55
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Just becuase you are chribba shouldnt hold any more weight then the rest of us.
then why do they use him in presentations at conventions as an example?
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NeoTheo
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:10:00 -
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on one note i think " awwww c's Cap ship is being moved, shame i always wanted to see that"...
on the other hand i think, "hang on, how come c's allowed to keep that when others cant have one"...
i know it dosnt really "do anything" so why would i want one, but the same reason C' is defending it would be the answer.
so i am torn, make plenty of fraps before CCP fix you.
Neotheo Dark Materials
Linkage
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FalconHawk
Amarr Shadow Rebellion
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 27/08/2008 06:59:23
Originally by: EVE System 2008.08.26 15:23 Hi. Capital ships are not allowed in high security space, can not be manufactured there and can not transported there. Your Dreadnought which was docked in Amarr VIII (Oris) - Emperor Family Academy, has been moved to a close low security system; Bordan IV - Moon 1 - Kaalakiota Corporation Factory.
And yes "EVE System" is the sender of such messages, same as last year when CCP unanchored LSAA's, and yes I already have a long exchange of petition messages regarding this.
of course they send it from Eve System .... when they would have gave out the GMs name he would have to fear for his job cause everyone would cry out to fire the idiot just waiting for the day when ccp decides to delete the first dead titan cause it¦s causing lag ...
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:12:00 -
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Sorry to hear chribba , I dont understand why hi-sec capitals needed to move.Noone could use them at a fight .
Free Veldnaught
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Tam A
Amarr Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2008.08.27 09:13:00 -
[210]
Edited by: Tam A on 27/08/2008 09:18:33 You know just the other day I was reading a thread full of people whining that Cap ships should be restricted to null sec.
Now today we have a move that could indicate that these people will soon be getting there way. I mean CCP couldn't move all Cap ships to null sec and leave the high sec Caps alone. That would have created a serious shit storm. I really hope the one has nothing to do with the other but this really seems like the first step to such a change and I can't fathom any other reason why they would do this other then serious jealousy over someone else's pixels.
Maybe you should stop paying for lame TV adds and put that money in to something useful like hiring a few of your long time costumers that understand the player base to make these game changing decisions for you. Cause right now it seems clear the people you are paying to make these decisions aren't worth the paper they wipe there ass with much less a pay check.
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