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Squably
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:19:00 -
[151]
RA petitioned it?
They prolly want their caps in highsec mining veld as well now that they are removed from 0.0 so to them it isnt fair that chribba is there and they arent. Signature removed. Please do not imply profanity in your signature. Navigator
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:19:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Let's be honest here. EVE's gameplay isn't the best. It needs some work. But half the reason I stick with the game is because I think you folks at CCP do a good job and genuinely care about the players and what we've done.
You are too generous. I don't. Not anymore. It took them 10 months, but they've successfully convinced me that they're just in it for the money, and could give a crap about the players.
Well, I'll bet some of them still care - to some extent - about what they're doing. Still...
__________________________________ CCP, WTH?
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:21:00 -
[153]
Confirming that I am participating in the threadknought for a good cause.
Last time *everyone* threw up their hands and said, "WTF, CCP?" the carrier nerf got canned. Maybe lightning will strike twice?
So... seriously, wtf CCP? ---
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:21:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Let's be honest here. EVE's gameplay isn't the best. It needs some work. But half the reason I stick with the game is because I think you folks at CCP do a good job and genuinely care about the players and what we've done.
You are too generous. I don't. Not anymore. It took them 10 months, but they've successfully convinced me that they're just in it for the money, and could give a crap about the players.
Well, I'll bet some of them still care - to some extent - about what they're doing. Still...
If they do, they appear to have all the influence and power of a fly.
I was gonna try out their WoD MMO, but I think that's out of the picture at this point. --------
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Ooyama
Caldari Rastana CMP Motivated and Determined
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:21:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Marlenus This is just astonishing.
Why?
What possible reason could there be for doing this?
Chribba, I've been insanely jealous of you since I first heard about your Veldnaught. But I also thought it was insanely cool.
I'm just disgusted that CCP would wipe that away with (apparently) no good reason.
Indeed,, enough for me to name my hulk "Veldnaught wannabe" .
"Yama".
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bnogo
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:23:00 -
[156]
i do believe terianna's statement on, what page 5? i think, nailed it on the head.
the heart is heavy with disappointment. tis a true shame.
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:23:00 -
[157]
Originally by: bnogo i do believe terianna's statement on, what page 5? i think, nailed it on the head.
the heart is heavy with disappointment. tis a true shame.
That disappointment is rapidly morphing into anger.
Mine sure is. --------
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Claudia Jefferson
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:23:00 -
[158]
I want to see chribba in amarr to, been in eve for long but thought there would always be time to go see him :)
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Evanade
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:24:00 -
[159]
dear ccp, listen to this man, i would not be surprised if he has done more for the game than some of your own employees
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Mikael Mechka
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:24:00 -
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I never got to see the Veldnaught :( I've passed by Amarr a few times but never got round to paying it a visit, it was on my "things to do".
I do not see what the reason for this move by CPP. Apart from upsetting a large part of the playerbase (including myself, I read about the Veldnaught before I even finished downloading the client for the first time), this doesnt seem to have a goal.
All they have done is made killing these icons easily killable. They were killable before, it was just very very difficult. Now every 2isk pirate wanting to make a name fr themselves will try to kill them, only to be driven out of the game by vengful players.
Can you imagine the response by players who owe Chribba if the Veldnaught is destroyed? The killer(s) will need to file harrasment petitions within an hour, and will be forced out of the game within a week I imagine.
This aside, the decision stinks and I hope it is reversed, these living landmarks are part of EVE.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Federation Fleet
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:25:00 -
[161]
CCP aren't evil, and they're not "just in it for the money", although let's be frank- our subscriptions pay their bills.
However, they've demonstrated in the past that community sentiment can sway their decisions. Let's keep this civil and avoid confrontation, but make it clear what the community perspective is.
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Damion Zyne
Des Esseintes Social Club
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Perrish nice to see how threats are deleted about this issue but no one of ccp have the balls to answear here...
Its cause the specialist for empire dreads is still on vacations and its CCP policy that only he can post here.
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Tom Perrish
Mystic Lion Hearts Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:27:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Damion Zyne
Originally by: Tom Perrish nice to see how threats are deleted about this issue but no one of ccp have the balls to answear here...
Its cause the specialist for empire dreads is still on vacations and its CCP policy that only he can post here.
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:27:00 -
[164]
<tinfoil>
CCP Dev: OK, we've nerfed the pants out of piracy and now they're all screaming for us to do something to the bears in highsec. Intern! Do something - I'll be back this afternoon to check on you.
CCP Intern: OK... what's the easiest thing I can do to nerf highsec so I can go get some more coffee? I know! I'll nerf Chribba - along with the rest of the highsec capitals! *cackles*
</tinfoil> ---
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/08/2008 08:28:42
Originally by: Jimer Lins CCP aren't evil, and they're not "just in it for the money", although let's be frank- our subscriptions pay their bills.
However, they've demonstrated in the past that community sentiment can sway their decisions. Let's keep this civil and avoid confrontation, but make it clear what the community perspective is.
Aye and also would like to add that do peolpe try and keep it in THIS thread and nto go galavanting around the forums and creating new threads.
Only true way for CCP to listen, is to not annoy them by posting hundreds of posts about it.
Keep it in one, simple, clear place where the majority agrees that "it's nto really something that needs to be done".
Although i understand the points of people saying "Chribba is just a player", and it's true, he is, he'll probably admit it too. This is mostly about the uselesness of the decicion.
Furthermore, making fun of CCP and insulting them won't get you guys the candy on the shelf
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Victor Vision
Amarr Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:29:00 -
[166]
CCP made a mistake.
No shame in making mistakes, we all do sometime.
Mistakes can be corrected.
Let us hope this one will be.
EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki |
bnogo
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:30:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Jimer Lins CCP aren't evil, and they're not "just in it for the money", although let's be frank- our subscriptions pay their bills.
However, they've demonstrated in the past that community sentiment can sway their decisions. Let's keep this civil and avoid confrontation, but make it clear what the community perspective is.
no one has said they are in it for the money. what has been said is what makes eve so great is that ccp cares about it. the devs had an interest in it and where it was headed. but some of the recent changes appear, to some if not many, indicate that the devs are focusing on driving up revenue and not so much on the game itself.
it is all well and good to make the game more enjoyable to more people. but not at the expense of those who helped build your little empire.
thus the feelings of disappointment atm. who knows, maybe ccp will have a statement about a great new upgrade they have planned but they had to remove caps in order to implement it. until then, many will be saddened.
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:30:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Jimer Lins CCP aren't evil, and they're not "just in it for the money", although let's be frank- our subscriptions pay their bills.
However, they've demonstrated in the past that community sentiment can sway their decisions. Let's keep this civil and avoid confrontation, but make it clear what the community perspective is.
If they aren't, then why do they:
Ignore repeated requests to fix bugs "Fix" problems that don't need fixing Consistently take the path that is easiest for them, rather than best for the playerbase Ignore the potential consequences of bad decisions and expect us to compensate for those decisions. When they do finally address an issue, ignore all intelligent player theories about fixes and implement draconian nerfs. Refuse to communicate a vision or theme for Eve. Adopt a culture of "we're right, you're wrong" when dealing with players.
And more. Not gonna list it all tonight - it's 1:30 here. And I'd be in bed if I wasn't so ****ed off about them doing this. --------
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:32:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: bnogo i do believe terianna's statement on, what page 5? i think, nailed it on the head.
the heart is heavy with disappointment. tis a true shame.
That disappointment is rapidly morphing into anger.
Mine sure is.
I find it hard to be really angry about this because I doubt it was done maliciously. It just smacks of the "sorry folks, we don't care about this anymore" which, yeah, should make me angry. Mostly I'm just sad though. [fake edit: there was a ghey metaphor here, but then i thought about it some more] okay, now i'm angry.
RIP Veldnaught (shitty picture though, my fault) __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision CCP made a mistake.
No shame in making mistakes, we all do sometime.
Mistakes can be corrected.
Let us hope this one will be.
It's when they make mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake that we start getting a bit ****ed, I'm afraid.
And for all of those wondering if this is because of some new expansion coming out...
...let's say that's the situation. In which case, what sane person wouldn't give a public announcement a good bit BEFORE taking any action? Hmm? --------
Where I got my great sig... |
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Chi Prime
Body Count Inc. The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:35:00 -
[171]
This is terrible. A crying shame. -
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:36:00 -
[172]
And people need to remember that CCP probably, MOST likely, don't care about Chribba or any INDIVIDUAL ingame when doing changes.
There's a issue:
Highsec capitals.
There's a decicion:
Remove capitals.
It's that simple, no malice, balance act, whatever you want to call it, it's NOT an attack on the playerbase.
If you asked, without any of this knowledge, if capitals should be allowed in high-sec, you wouldn't get this kind of 100% one sided "Nooo!!" answer, you'd get a split community.
It makes sense if you put your anger aside for a moment.
As said before, this requires "some 'xplaining to do lucy!!!", but keep it cool honeys.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:36:00 -
[173]
Seriously CCP,
Using high sec capitals for anything else than legitimate war or pure pve was already made into a bannable offense by you guys when you removed the possibility to make them in high sec.
So why? Why did someone up there felt the need to kick these people in the shins like this? It's lame, it's pathetic and it's something you should just turn back on and do a little apology on, everyone makes mistakes, this is just one of them.
It makes no sense and tbh having Chribba making a thread about it should be reason enough to at least rethink this action.
And they call me baka..
All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide.. |
Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:38:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Jimer Lins CCP aren't evil, and they're not "just in it for the money", although let's be frank- our subscriptions pay their bills.
However, they've demonstrated in the past that community sentiment can sway their decisions. Let's keep this civil and avoid confrontation, but make it clear what the community perspective is.
If they aren't, then why do they:
Ignore repeated requests to fix bugs "Fix" problems that don't need fixing Consistently take the path that is easiest for them, rather than best for the playerbase Ignore the potential consequences of bad decisions and expect us to compensate for those decisions. When they do finally address an issue, ignore all intelligent player theories about fixes and implement draconian nerfs. Refuse to communicate a vision or theme for Eve. Adopt a culture of "we're right, you're wrong" when dealing with players.
And more. Not gonna list it all tonight - it's 1:30 here. And I'd be in bed if I wasn't so ****ed off about them doing this.
Beucause unlike you, me and the vast majority (if not all) the playerbase, usually they have the ability to look at the bigger picture. Which means that they can see what is affected and how in a clearer way than we do.
They are humans and they make mistakes of course, but they were and still are (I hope) willing to listen to logical arguments and change their decisions if need be. Proof may be the Deimos change (that didn't go through) the carriers and a couple more that slip my mind.
This is another case of a mistake according to my understanding at least.
Veldnaught was offering a service, and was playing within rules that CCP stated. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it. |
Arte
AFK
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:38:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Sheriff Jones ...but keep it cool honeys.
You're acting mighty sheriff-ey there Sheriff Jones
Good points.
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Shadow Sapphire
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:38:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Shadow Sapphire on 27/08/2008 08:40:25 Does anyone know the invocation rituals for TomB or Oveur ?
They should be able to decide on this in a split second and slap the guy responsibile for this stupid mistake .
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:39:00 -
[177]
Geeez, a lot of idiots in this thread that don't bother to read my post.
I understand why CCP made the decision, but I think that Chribba's Veldnaught should be an exception.
Something along the lines of turning the Veldnaught into an NPC that randomly roams the belts in Amarr would be nice. With Chribb'as permission of course. That way everybody would be happy.
I expect this thread to break 20 pages rather quickly. --
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones And people need to remember that CCP probably, MOST likely, don't care about Chribba or any INDIVIDUAL ingame when doing changes.
There's a issue:
Highsec capitals.
There was NO issue. The issue was dealt with. The problem here isn't just that CCP handled an "issue" rashly - it's that there was no issue and they nerfed someone anyway.
There was no reason for this. None.
And, even if I'm wrong and by some infinitesimal chance CCP does have a good reason for this, why on earth would they not tell us before hand? --------
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bnogo
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:41:00 -
[179]
hehe, ok but several people have mentioned slapping the bonehead who made the mistake.
would it be too much to ask for a video of the bonehead getting slapped? or am i just twisted?
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Beucause unlike you, me and the vast majority (if not all) the playerbase, usually they have the ability to look at the bigger picture. Which means that they can see what is affected and how in a clearer way than we do.
They are humans and they make mistakes of course, but they were and still are (I hope) willing to listen to logical arguments and change their decisions if need be. Proof may be the Deimos change (that didn't go through) the carriers and a couple more that slip my mind.
This is another case of a mistake according to my understanding at least.
Veldnaught was offering a service, and was playing within rules that CCP stated.
Their vaunted ability to "see the big picture" appears to be using binoculars with the lenses covered with spray paint.
They have - if you hadn't noticed - been making a LOT of bad decisions recently. And not subjectively, either - they are angering and alienating a lot of their loyal playerbase, and I've been seeing a lot of vets just...quit. --------
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