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Lady Miranga
Relentless Influence
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Posted - 2012.03.24 09:10:00 -
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What do you think is going to change? |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.03.24 10:09:00 -
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EVERYTHING |
lanyaie
1
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Posted - 2012.03.24 11:15:00 -
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oh great CCP just when i feel like switching to try out the tengu its nerf tIME I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
85
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Posted - 2012.03.24 13:10:00 -
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Im guessing tengu to the ground and loki to be boosted to high heavens !
Afterall minmatars have race-right to be the best and they have been totally underpowered compared lolcaldari in this aspect. |
God's Apples
Space Boats 'N Hoes
3
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:46:00 -
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All t3 ships annoy me. The tengu isn't OP. Turns out, when you put 3 bill in most ships you get something really awesome out of it. I've killed plenty of buffer and active (not just t2 fit) tengus solo with my nano cane. Any gang that is getting solo'd by a tengu is ******** and has a fail composition of ships.
"But I thought if we just had more drakes and canes we could kill everything because we have such leet dps, right?" |
Artemis Ahab
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:59:00 -
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God's Apples wrote:All t3 ships annoy me. The tengu isn't OP. Turns out, when you put 3 bill in most ships you get something really awesome out of it. I've killed plenty of buffer and active (not just t2 fit) tengus solo with my nano cane. Any gang that is getting solo'd by a tengu is ******** and has a fail composition of ships.
"But I thought if we just had more drakes and canes we could kill everything because we have such leet dps, right?"
So, if I poured 3 billion into an omen, I'd get something awesome? No? What about a navy omen? Better, but it'll still diaf..what about an ashimmu? Hmm, still no. Go figure. |
zariae
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:09:00 -
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Where did they say something was changing? |
Artemis Ahab
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:16:00 -
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Also, God's do you have a KM link if you soloing a faction/deadspace fit tengu? Battleclinic doesn't have you listed as killing any. At all. But hey, it IS battleclinic after all. So, benefit of the doubt, provide said linky? |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
903
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:26:00 -
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Artemis Ahab wrote:Also, God's do you have a KM link if you soloing a faction/deadspace fit tengu? Battleclinic doesn't have you listed as killing any. At all. But hey, it IS battleclinic after all. So, benefit of the doubt, provide said linky?
Put 3B in a Proteus and try it to in null.
Great, now you can ambush with a 3B Proteus, defenceless ships, and lazy AFK ones. ho w8
So, what is your mega nerf on the road that made you jizzle this stupid thread? |
M1k3y Koontz
Taxes Suck Inc.
26
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Posted - 2012.03.24 20:32:00 -
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DEATH TO THOSE 100MN AB 2x T2 ANCILARY RIGGED GODAWFUL TENGUS
What it really needs is a decent subsystem that goes with MWD's
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
903
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Posted - 2012.03.24 20:45:00 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:DEATH TO THOSE 100MN AB 2x T2 ANCILARY RIGGED GODAWFUL TENGUS
What it really needs is a decent subsystem that goes with MWD's
Now this is a reasonable guy.
100MN AB -problem when you can fit an oversized module in whatever hull = this is the core of the problem, not the ship.
T2 rigs -not a problem.
Well, 100mn lokis, 100mn legions are also overpowered then. Nerf them devs, nerf them.... ?
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Derth Ramir
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:51:00 -
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The problem is not the 100mn tech 3s, the problem is when these ships are paired up with tech 3 links giving the illusion that they have overpowered active tanks with ungodly speeds. Try using a 100mn tech 3 without links and see how it turns out. |
Jame Jarl Retief
Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne
10
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Posted - 2012.03.24 22:18:00 -
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Did they say anything specifically, as in "we are going to nerf Tengu"? Or is this because of the promised ship rebalancing and tiericide? Personally I'd prefer it if they buffed other T3s to be in line with Tengu. |
Jack Miton
Lapse Of Sanity Exhale.
152
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Posted - 2012.03.25 00:12:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:Did they say anything specifically, as in "we are going to nerf Tengu"? Or is this because of the promised ship rebalancing and tiericide? Personally I'd prefer it if they buffed other T3s to be in line with Tengu.
yes, please buff my proteus and loki, they are clearly not good enough at the moment....
in all seriousness, only T3 that need balancing, with a buff, is the legion. |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Flatline.
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Posted - 2012.03.25 01:07:00 -
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Would anyone care to link a source for this alleged tengu nerf? |
God's Apples
Space Boats 'N Hoes
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Posted - 2012.03.25 01:41:00 -
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Artemis Ahab wrote:Also, God's do you have a KM link if you soloing a faction/deadspace fit tengu? Battleclinic doesn't have you listed as killing any. At all. But hey, it IS battleclinic after all. So, benefit of the doubt, provide said linky?
I had to remove the photon and invul because the KB won't take it.
http://test.true-sansha.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=82124 Not 100mn, still spensive. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
353
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Posted - 2012.03.25 03:16:00 -
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That's really not what we had in mind.
Also: lol test server. |
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
5
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Posted - 2012.03.25 03:47:00 -
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Derth Ramir wrote:The problem is not the 100mn tech 3s, the problem is when these ships are paired up with tech 3 links giving the illusion that they have overpowered active tanks with ungodly speeds. Try using a 100mn tech 3 without links and see how it turns out. Purty much this. I'm flying around in a 100mn AB Tengu at the moment with no links. About as manueverable as a school bus. Can get some nice speed, eventually... but with out the mindlinks to boost agility, plus the extra speed, the extended point range, and shield bonuses it's not THAT great.
That being said, it will still be nerfed. Why? Cuz I'm using one. Anything I use gets nerfed eventually. NOS - Nerfbat Homerun! Drones - Bandwidth/Scoop nerf RSDs - Script nerf Recons - Speed/ECM nerf Deep Space Probes - Nerfbat Homerun! Corp Recruitment in Space - Exploit! (only took once for that one to get nailed) War Decs - DecShield okay'd Can-Flipping - Proposed Crimewatch nerf Tengu - .....?
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Artemis Ahab
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:03:00 -
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God's Apples wrote:Artemis Ahab wrote:Also, God's do you have a KM link if you soloing a faction/deadspace fit tengu? Battleclinic doesn't have you listed as killing any. At all. But hey, it IS battleclinic after all. So, benefit of the doubt, provide said linky? I had to remove the photon and invul because the KB won't take it. http://test.true-sansha.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=82124 Not 100mn, still spensive.
Ok, manually posted one minute before you linked it. Have an API verified one?
Edit:: Wait, that's on the test server. How about one from the ACTUAL game. |
Plus 1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:07:00 -
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Vladimir Norkoff wrote:Derth Ramir wrote:The problem is not the 100mn tech 3s, the problem is when these ships are paired up with tech 3 links giving the illusion that they have overpowered active tanks with ungodly speeds. Try using a 100mn tech 3 without links and see how it turns out. Purty much this. I'm flying around in a 100mn AB Tengu at the moment with no links. About as manueverable as a school bus. Can get some nice speed, eventually... but with out the mindlinks to boost agility, plus the extra speed, the extended point range, and shield bonuses it's not THAT great. That being said, it will still be nerfed. Why? Cuz I'm using one. Anything I use gets nerfed eventually. NOS - Nerfbat Homerun! Drones - Bandwidth/Scoop nerf RSDs - Script nerf Recons - Speed/ECM nerf Deep Space Probes - Nerfbat Homerun! Corp Recruitment in Space - Exploit! (only took once for that one to get nailed)War Decs - DecShield okay'd Can-Flipping - Proposed Crimewatch nerf Tengu - .....? EVE hates you. |
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OfBalance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:11:00 -
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I welcome any and all nerfs. New fotm, best fotm. |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:23:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Would anyone care to link a source for this alleged tengu nerf?
There is no source cause there is no nerf. What there IS, is a discussion of ship balance from fanfest, where they state that t3 is ideally more versatile but roughly equal in power to navy faction ships, and t2 ships are more powerful at any given task but specialized. It's a discussion, that's all. Look up the fanfest feeds. |
Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.25 14:16:00 -
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Ines Tegator wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Would anyone care to link a source for this alleged tengu nerf? There is no source cause there is no nerf. What there IS, is a discussion of ship balance from fanfest, where they state that t3 is ideally more versatile but roughly equal in power to navy faction ships, and t2 ships are more powerful at any given task but specialized. It's a discussion, that's all. Look up the fanfest feeds. Why is it that "not surpassing T2" ships only applies to the Legion and Proteus?
Loki's and Tengu's Designers had no problem obsoleting their T2s. (Whose drone subsystem is actually inferior to T1 Vexor/Arb)
I really can't imagine how much you were dropped on your head as a child to be able to spout this line. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
917
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Posted - 2012.03.25 14:42:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Jame Jarl Retief wrote:Did they say anything specifically, as in "we are going to nerf Tengu"? Or is this because of the promised ship rebalancing and tiericide? Personally I'd prefer it if they buffed other T3s to be in line with Tengu. yes, please buff my proteus and loki, they are clearly not good enough at the moment.... in all seriousness, only T3 that need balancing, with a buff, is the legion.
Really? -Because you can make a hell of a 250's good Proteus fit? Do something else than heavy tackle with a stupid amount of EHP or a stupid amount of dps but never a bit of eatch? Or is the uber drone sub that makes you think that?
No, No don't answer please I already know the answer, you don't need speed/agility and shoot over 60km with a Proteus at gates and undocks, yes I know that.
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.03.25 16:13:00 -
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Vladimir Norkoff wrote:Derth Ramir wrote:The problem is not the 100mn tech 3s, the problem is when these ships are paired up with tech 3 links giving the illusion that they have overpowered active tanks with ungodly speeds. Try using a 100mn tech 3 without links and see how it turns out. Purty much this. I'm flying around in a 100mn AB Tengu at the moment with no links. About as manueverable as a school bus. Can get some nice speed, eventually... but with out the mindlinks to boost agility, plus the extra speed, the extended point range, and shield bonuses it's not THAT great. That being said, it will still be nerfed. Why? Cuz I'm using one. Anything I use gets nerfed eventually. NOS - Nerfbat Homerun! Drones - Bandwidth/Scoop nerf RSDs - Script nerf Recons - Speed/ECM nerf Deep Space Probes - Nerfbat Homerun! Corp Recruitment in Space - Exploit! (only took once for that one to get nailed)War Decs - DecShield okay'd Can-Flipping - Proposed Crimewatch nerf Tengu - .....?
NOS is finally getting rebuffed, so please do not use it
thank you |
zariae
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.25 16:54:00 -
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Pheusia wrote:
NOS is finally getting rebuffed, so please do not use it
thank you
Say waaaa?
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Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
159
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Posted - 2012.03.25 21:48:00 -
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Voith wrote:Ines Tegator wrote: There is no source cause there is no nerf. What there IS, is a discussion of ship balance from fanfest, where they state that t3 is ideally more versatile but roughly equal in power to navy faction ships, and t2 ships are more powerful at any given task but specialized. It's a discussion, that's all. Look up the fanfest feeds.
Why is it that "not surpassing T2" ships only applies to the Legion and Proteus? Loki's and Tengu's Designers had no problem obsoleting their T2s. (Whose drone subsystem is actually inferior to T1 Vexor/Arb) I really can't imagine how much you were dropped on your head as a child to be able to spout this line.
Are you sure you didn't quote the wrong post? Cause I didn't say anything like that... |
Crellion
Parental Control HELL4S
4
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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:16:00 -
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zariae wrote:Pheusia wrote:
NOS is finally getting rebuffed, so please do not use it
thank you
Say waaaa?
Who when what where how? |
Astroniomix
EliteTroll
16
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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:31:00 -
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Voith wrote:Ines Tegator wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Would anyone care to link a source for this alleged tengu nerf? There is no source cause there is no nerf. What there IS, is a discussion of ship balance from fanfest, where they state that t3 is ideally more versatile but roughly equal in power to navy faction ships, and t2 ships are more powerful at any given task but specialized. It's a discussion, that's all. Look up the fanfest feeds. Why is it that "not surpassing T2" ships only applies to the Legion and Proteus? Loki's and Tengu's Designers had no problem obsoleting their T2s. (Whose drone subsystem is actually inferior to T1 Vexor/Arb) I really can't imagine how much you were dropped on your head as a child to be able to spout this line. You'll notice she was quoting (or pointing out) what the devs said in the keynote presentation. But then again, reading comprehension is restricted to people who are at least 12. |
Alyssa VonDeadAir
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:07:00 -
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Save the tengu, loki, and proteus!
Buff the legion!
God this character is ugly! |
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