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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:21:00 -
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exploit notification reported by GM Grimmi | 2008.08.26 15:38:53 | NEW The practice of insta-joining warring corporations for the purpose of surprising war targets is considered an exploit from here on. Reports of this will be investigated on a case by case basis and warnings will be issued at the discretion of the GM. Repeated incidents may result in bans on accounts involved.
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Looks like this will be one of the things getting modified with the changes on the wardec system.
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Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:23:00 -
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Wait, hasn't this been possible for ages? Took 'em a while to declare it an exploit.
9 out of 10 blueprints prefer New Eden Research!
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sg3s
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jana Clant Wait, hasn't this been possible for ages? Took 'em a while to declare it an exploit.
Too many people started using it, now it's bothersome to manage, so it's better to change it now.
Originally by: Tarminic Because even when EVE sucks, it sucks less than every other MMO out there.
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Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:24:00 -
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So is the practice of leaving warring corporations for the purpose of avoiding war targets now an exploit too? I hate signatures with no distinct break from the body of the post. |
Jobby
Minmatar UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:28:00 -
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If insta-joining is frowned upon, is joining over a prolonged period of time ok? Isk laundering 4t ignore
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Drethon
Gallente Selinir
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kelron Queldine So is the practice of leaving warring corporations for the purpose of avoiding war targets now an exploit too?
I suspect that is completely different as you can't really insta-leave, it takes 24 hours. ____
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:37:00 -
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Anyone surprised by this tactic is a clueless fool.
Still, I'll lose no sleep if CCP nerfs it, because it IS lame.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Drethon
Originally by: Kelron Queldine So is the practice of leaving warring corporations for the purpose of avoiding war targets now an exploit too?
I suspect that is completely different as you can't really insta-leave, it takes 24 hours.
You can if you have no roles. I hate signatures with no distinct break from the body of the post. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kelron Queldine So is the practice of leaving warring corporations for the purpose of avoiding war targets now an exploit too?
I think insta-leaving to get your opponent CONCORDed is an exploit, just to avoid getting ganked, probably not.
-------- Ideas for: Mining
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Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Kelron Queldine So is the practice of leaving warring corporations for the purpose of avoiding war targets now an exploit too?
I think insta-leaving to get your opponent CONCORDed is an exploit, just to avoid getting ganked, probably not.
Can't leave or join a corp while in space. I hate signatures with no distinct break from the body of the post. |
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Kaar
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:45:00 -
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You have to be docked to join a corp, how is it a surprise then?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kelron Queldine
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Kelron Queldine So is the practice of leaving warring corporations for the purpose of avoiding war targets now an exploit too?
I think insta-leaving to get your opponent CONCORDed is an exploit, just to avoid getting ganked, probably not.
Can't leave or join a corp while in space.
I see, didn't know that. Just heard that it once was possible and deemed an exploit.
-------- Ideas for: Mining
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sg3s
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:47:00 -
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The insta leaving reminds me of a fight I had a while ago.
This person jumped into the system right into our camp in high sec while at war, obviously he was going to lose his ship... But then he did something very typical, he logged off, we got him in to structure before he dissapeared.
Then less than 5 minutes later he logs back in being in a noob corp... apearantly he had himself be kicked out of the corp while offline and was not a war target anymore... tactics like those are increadibly lame.
He also re-joined the corp a couple of days later.
Originally by: Tarminic Because even when EVE sucks, it sucks less than every other MMO out there.
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GM Grimmi
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:49:00 -
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Hi, just a little update on the exploit:
The practice of insta-joining/leaving warring corporations for the purpose of surprising war targets, or getting them in trouble with CONCORD, is considered an exploit from here on. Reports of this will be investigated on a case by case basis and warnings will be issued at the discretion of the GM. Repeated incidents may result in bans on accounts involved.
Basically, using the current corp mechanics to sneak up on unsuspecting targets or to get targets in trouble with CONCORD is not allowed. GM Grimmi
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Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.26 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: sg3s The insta leaving reminds me of a fight I had a while ago.
This person jumped into the system right into our camp in high sec while at war, obviously he was going to lose his ship... But then he did something very typical, he logged off, we got him in to structure before he dissapeared.
Then less than 5 minutes later he logs back in being in a noob corp... apearantly he had himself be kicked out of the corp while offline and was not a war target anymore... tactics like those are increadibly lame.
He also re-joined the corp a couple of days later.
I'm sure you can't (instantly) kick players who are in space, either. It can probably be done after a vote, otherwise people could avoid being kicked by not docking. I hate signatures with no distinct break from the body of the post. |
Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: GM Grimmi Hi, just a little update on the exploit:
The practice of insta-joining/leaving warring corporations for the purpose of surprising war targets, or getting them in trouble with CONCORD, is considered an exploit from here on. Reports of this will be investigated on a case by case basis and warnings will be issued at the discretion of the GM. Repeated incidents may result in bans on accounts involved.
Basically, using the current corp mechanics to sneak up on unsuspecting targets or to get targets in trouble with CONCORD is not allowed.
That's kinda stupid maybe you should change the mechanics.
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sg3s
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kelron Queldine
Originally by: sg3s The insta leaving reminds me of a fight I had a while ago.
This person jumped into the system right into our camp in high sec while at war, obviously he was going to lose his ship... But then he did something very typical, he logged off, we got him in to structure before he dissapeared.
Then less than 5 minutes later he logs back in being in a noob corp... apearantly he had himself be kicked out of the corp while offline and was not a war target anymore... tactics like those are increadibly lame.
He also re-joined the corp a couple of days later.
I'm sure you can't (instantly) kick players who are in space, either. It can probably be done after a vote, otherwise people could avoid being kicked by not docking.
He was offline at the time he was kicked out so yeah, not in space.
Originally by: Tarminic Because even when EVE sucks, it sucks less than every other MMO out there.
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Tammarr
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:16:00 -
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You can be accepted to a new corp while in space, kinda happened with the change to how you go about joining a corp.
Rather then: Be in station, apply, get director to confirm, confirm yourself from station now it just goes: Apply, Wait for director to confirm.
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:27:00 -
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This isn't an exploit.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar exploit notification reported by GM Grimmi | 2008.08.26 15:38:53 | NEW The practice of insta-joining warring corporations for the purpose of surprising war targets is considered an exploit from here on. Reports of this will be investigated on a case by case basis and warnings will be issued at the discretion of the GM. Repeated incidents may result in bans on accounts involved.
Linkage
Looks like this will be one of the things getting modified with the changes on the wardec system.
Good, always been a very lame tactic and does need a proper fix to it.
Star Fraction | Dare to Dream!
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Traidor Disloyal
I Am Not A Lawyer
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:45:00 -
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So, this is how they fix their overview bug? How innovative.
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Ethen Bejorn
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: GM Grimmi at the discretion of the GM.
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:48:00 -
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Many of us know what we do. We KNOW it's exploiting the system to use an alt on a trial account to scout for us. We KNOW it's not right to do a logoffski. We KNOW that we're sapping a game mechanic for every nickle and dime. We KNOW that we've stacked various attributes to the maximum, and what, we just happen to overlook the fact that we're going so fast the missiles aren't hitting us.
What's great is how far players go to lie to themselves. Or how very angry they get when the development or figures out a way to change things.
You KNOW it's an exploit. Deep down we all do. But loe and behold, we hate having our edge taken away, don't we?
Quote: If you like playing EvE, but don't like to PvP ...
Maybe it's time you recognize that you don't really like to play EvE.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:52:00 -
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How exactly are they going to police this?
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 26/08/2008 17:53:21
Originally by: Kelron Queldine
Originally by: sg3s The insta leaving reminds me of a fight I had a while ago.
This person jumped into the system right into our camp in high sec while at war, obviously he was going to lose his ship... But then he did something very typical, he logged off, we got him in to structure before he dissapeared.
Then less than 5 minutes later he logs back in being in a noob corp... apearantly he had himself be kicked out of the corp while offline and was not a war target anymore... tactics like those are increadibly lame.
He also re-joined the corp a couple of days later.
I'm sure you can't (instantly) kick players who are in space, either. It can probably be done after a vote, otherwise people could avoid being kicked by not docking.
You can't kick people in space afaik (even if they're offline), but iirc you can accept them to the corp.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron How exactly are they going to police this?
At a guess. Say I'm fighting an enemy gang of wartargets (4-5) and suddenly a bunch of neutrals suddenly turn to more wartargets instantly I'll say "wtf!" -> check their date/time of joining corp, and if I think its suspicious make an exploit petition. GM's would investigate and if it looks likely people joined the corp mid fight to gain a tactical advantage they'll be warned not to do it again on pain of punishment.
Something like that I'd expect.
Star Fraction | Dare to Dream!
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.26 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kelron Queldine
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Kelron Queldine So is the practice of leaving warring corporations for the purpose of avoiding war targets now an exploit too?
I think insta-leaving to get your opponent CONCORDed is an exploit, just to avoid getting ganked, probably not.
Can't leave or join a corp while in space.
You can't ask to leave/join, but your pending request can be accepted while you are in space and the CEO or directors can eject you while you are in space.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.26 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Venkul Mul on 26/08/2008 18:12:53
Originally by: Kelron Queldine
Originally by: sg3s The insta leaving reminds me of a fight I had a while ago.
This person jumped into the system right into our camp in high sec while at war, obviously he was going to lose his ship... But then he did something very typical, he logged off, we got him in to structure before he dissapeared.
Then less than 5 minutes later he logs back in being in a noob corp... apearantly he had himself be kicked out of the corp while offline and was not a war target anymore... tactics like those are increadibly lame.
He also re-joined the corp a couple of days later.
I'm sure you can't (instantly) kick players who are in space, either. It can probably be done after a vote, otherwise people could avoid being kicked by not docking.
Not at all, you can kick them immediately if they have no roles.
Originally by: Blane Xero You can't kick people in space afaik (even if they're offline), but iirc you can accept them to the corp.
I have done it (not during wars, player logged off while in space and never returned to the game) so it is possible.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.26 18:21:00 -
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OMG CCP are looking at war dec non-exploits!!!!!
How about you look at corp hopping, and self alt wardeccing as well.
Id be happy to give you full descriptions of these non exploits.
Regards
Le Skunk
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Evil Edna
The Priory
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Posted - 2008.08.26 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron How exactly are they going to police this?
badly
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