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Dionisius
Gallente Sincarnate Holding
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Posted - 2008.08.24 22:07:00 -
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Mostly PvE with some PvP game, but not sandbox like most people think.
PvP in EvE depends ALOT of industry and the much hated carebears and miners, without them, there is no pee vee pee. _____________________________________
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Valan
The Fated
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Posted - 2008.08.24 22:08:00 -
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It says PvP on the box.
It also says that gameplay may change so I can't get my money back lol /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig |
Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.08.24 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rhatar Khurin It's a mainly PvP game. Although unless you call asteroids people. Then i don't pvp.
Other players can mine asteroids before you do. Large corporations could completely mine out the belts you normally mine at. That's competition between players, and thus, PvP. Unless you just stockpile the ore you mine and never use it, you engage in PvP when you sell it or make things out of it and sell them. I'm sure you've bought things, and when you do, you probably tried to get the best price possible. That's competitive.
So you do PvP. You just don't shoot at other players.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.08.24 22:11:00 -
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PvP. Level 4 missions don't bother me. Being able to get massively rich from an insanely easy and boring SOLO profession bothers me. This is a MMORPG unless a took a really wrong turn somewhere.
Originally by: EVE-Online Official FAQ
Players should note that EVE emphasizes player interaction, including non-consensual combat between players. Being attacked by another player, within the parameters of normal gameplay, is not harassment.
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http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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Raneru
eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.24 22:21:00 -
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PVP
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ShardowRhino
Caldari Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.08.24 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais Its a persistant online universe, this pvp v pve nonsense is just because people like things in neat little boxes.
C.
Well said. I started EVE as a vacation game from an mmo-FPS, I was feeling burned out. Eve had mining which beat crafting or gathering in eq2 which I had tried a few months beforehand. To me EVe started out purely as mining, to be in a game but not feeling the pressure of the fate of 100+other gamers on my head or the constant arguments between myself and lower lifeforms that were always tripping over their egos.
Without the PVE you don't have PVP. Without PVP your PVE is empty as any standard game is a far better challenge. All of the arguments put forth as to why L4s should be nerfed are flawed,therefore illogical. They attack L4s as though it was the cause of their specific "problems".
As for my answer if you really want a simple one, I PVE so i can PVP. I PVP because my PVE gives me enough to not worry about losing cruisers and such.
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Hana Lena
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.24 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Valan It says PvP on the box.
Box? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ADHD + Dyslexia = BAD SPELLING!
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Necrosmith
Gallente DEADLY RENEGADE ELITE ASSASSIN MERC SQUAD Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.08.24 23:20:00 -
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Absolutely PvP.
Any PvE elements in this game are so horrible so as to be not worth mentioning.
Any PvE you do is to support your PvP experience.
If you are here for PvE, you are wasting your money.
------------- "Isk is cheap. Life is cheaper. This week, they're having a sale on both." Laugh until you cry: Battle Asses
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.08.25 00:04:00 -
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Both.
If you're a yarr or in a 0.0 alliance or doing FW it's PVP.
If you're missioning or mining or exploring it's PVE.
It offers a variety of playstyles within a single world on a single server which is always nice in a game. Having to switch servers and use OOG chat channels is vaguelyl a nuisance.
Offering a single definitive playstyle is a bit asinine given the sheer variety of things people can and do in EVE.
I know it's a bit of a sausage party in here and like half of you have probably got the ass burgers from not getting out much but a bit of realising there's more than one way to view things would go a long way.
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Krasnij Okjabre
Caldari The Priory
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Posted - 2008.08.25 00:48:00 -
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In my opinion, purely a PvP game with enough options along the way to help maintain the funds required to support and/or encourage PvP. By definition a MMO is PvP due to the fact we are all trying to do our best to climb all over each other to achieve some goal, whatever it may be.
Lets face it, missions get boring (very quickly) but provide ISK. Mining/production are useful, but also provide more ISK. You can of course trade, again leading to more ISK.
Ultimately with all the ISK you have made (assuming you are in for the long haul - no pun intended), you are going to want to do something a little more 'interactive'. Invariably blowing other peoples ships up. My reasoning behind this is that most of the ships and mods are geared towards a PvP environment, a HIC (for example) is never gonna be good at mission running, it's not what it is designed for. It's designed to hold a target in place while your mates destroy it.
We play games for the challenge and there is no better challenge than player versus player. Though in Eve, unlike in any other game I've played this appears to have several ways of manifesting itself, whether it be ship destruction, market dominance, territorial control or even (sadly) forum sniping.
It's a PvP game, no matter how you cut it.
Kras. You'd be amazed how fast a cats lives run out when you have a hammer. |
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.25 00:52:00 -
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pvp 100%
WHY DO YOU THINK I PLAY EVE AND ONLY EVE ________________________ I'M POOR
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Brigsby5987
Caldari 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.08.25 01:27:00 -
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EvE is supposed to be whatever you make it.
If you want it to be pvp, it can be pvp. if you want to just pve, then its pve.
No one should be forced to fight other players, but by the same sense, unless your in a npc corp, you should be able to be war decced, ransomed etc.
I see no problems with people not pvping especially since i myself am starting to do things other then pvp in eve for fun as im a bit lacking on time.
not everyone has the time and isk flow basically to pvp and die repeatedly. if you want targets, someone has to support your targets industrial backbone. __________________________________________ When Will I be able to post again ? 13 days, 23 hours, 55 minutes, 36 seconds |
Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.25 01:48:00 -
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It's PvP by nature, and almost everything you do (buy a ship, sell something on the market) inherently is PvP in some form, even if you don't intend it to be.
The big difference between PvP in EVE and PvE, is that PvP revolves around risk and potential loss, whereas in PvE your only real limit is your patience.
Whether that be in running missions, mining or probing out rare Exploration sites...
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Ekrid
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Posted - 2008.08.25 01:55:00 -
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imo the divergence that creates risk free PVE detracts from the game.
oh, and go back to WoW.
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PuncherDavis
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Posted - 2008.08.25 04:54:00 -
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Its all pvp..
Its just very hard to get the CRO MAGNUM players who just want to blow up ships to understand that..
They have no idea it seems of time invested into bpo's POS.s inventions..Doing gobs of missions so u can get standings to get research agents and MINING a shit ton of ore to build whatever u get in the end run..
IF we could HAMMER some common sense into them I think Eve would be a better place
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.08.25 06:10:00 -
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Almost all PvP - only thing I can think of that's PvE is missions, and even then if you loot anything you still have to sell it.
As someone who buys all that crap mission loot to reprocess, I can say with 100% certainty that market PvP in a mission hub is about the most hardcore experience in EvE. I actually had to give up and go back to ore because I literally had to sit there and do nothing but continually refresh the market window to stay competitive.
Hell, even ore buy orders in the middle of nowhere I still have to check 3-4 times a day. ---
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Mistress Luck
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Posted - 2008.08.25 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: Mistress Luck on 25/08/2008 08:07:58 When I joined I thought EVE was all about PvP. That is, that everything you tried to do in the game would put you into competition with other players. I thought missions were a nice way to inject money into the economy, but that they werent as lucrative as manufacturing, mining or trading. Then I reached level 4 missions, and I realised how wrong I was.
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Volarius
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.25 08:17:00 -
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EVE is PvP.
The PvE-ers in EVE are actually people that wanted to sign up for WoW but accidentally made a typo in their browser location bar and ended up here.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.08.25 08:19:00 -
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It's neither.
Eve is an Excel sheet run completely amok.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.08.25 08:23:00 -
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Both.
'cause you can do both.
Anyone claiming all activities 'cause PVP, is silly.
Selling stuff or buying stuff has never been counted as PVP
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
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Volarius
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.25 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Both.
'cause you can do both.
Anyone claiming all activities 'cause PVP, is silly.
Selling stuff or buying stuff has never been counted as PVP
People that sell stuff do so to give PvPers moar ships!
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Valan
The Fated
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Posted - 2008.08.25 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hana Lena
Originally by: Valan It says PvP on the box.
Box?
Yeh I bought the first official build in a box. Even has a manual. I'm going to scan both one day and host it just for posterity.
/start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig |
Kano Sekor
Amarr The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.25 11:18:00 -
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its not a PvP game its a PwP game Players With Players we just fly around holding hands :D ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.25 11:24:00 -
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PvP, though not necessarily pvp combat. The only non-pvp thing in the game is missions, all other PvE stuff is really PvP as it can be competed for (mining, ratting, exploration, complexes).
Also the box says pvp and if it changes i want ALL my money back
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Squably
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.08.25 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rhatar Khurin It's a mainly PvP game. Although unless you call asteroids people. Then i don't pvp.
So you only mine and keep it in your hangar? Signature removed. Please do not imply profanity in your signature. Navigator
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fuze
Chosen Path Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.08.25 11:41:00 -
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More important is that Eve is a game for stupid nerds. Meaning you'll never be able to get them agreeing on anything. Ever.
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Victor Forge
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.25 11:43:00 -
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Both.
I am curious about those that claims it is a pure pvp game. Did you really start to do pvp from day 1? And do you get all income from destroying player ship?
I play it as a pve game although I play the market, doing trade war so to speak, and that is a form of pvp. I would try ship to ship pvp if it wasnŠt so one sided in the favour of those that initiate the attack but I am glad the opportunity is there. But if I am forced to slow mindless grind because of nerfed high-sec I will save my real life cash. Real life can be a grind sometimes and I would rather not play a game that is a mindless boring grind as well.
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Tharukan Desm'ar
Gallente The Ninth Circle Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.25 11:44:00 -
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PvP
Like others said it doesn't just extend to combat. Competition in mining, industry and trading between corporations and players. The constant competition between people be it combat or any other facet of the game is what drives it. Makes it exciting. PvE is just a means to an end for me at the end of the day. Not the end target.
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Opertone
Caldari SIEGE. The Border Patrol
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Posted - 2008.08.25 11:46:00 -
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EVE is ever lasting grind of ISK
to get a battleship with fittings you need at least 200 mill, your clone costs 20 mill, your implants can be around 50
one ****-up in a bubble in 0.0 and you need to start over, get a 300 mill and try again
now, in general you earn 30 mill per hour with lvl 4 missions, it translates to 3 hours a day, 5 days a week, with a little chance to play on the weekend
so EVE is all about having isk and fun or not having them
but making isk has become so hard with the average bar moving up and up
now you need a HAC to be competitive in PVP, soon you will need to be better than that to compete
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.08.25 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones It's silly really how far the "EVE is PVP!!" claim has gone, not to mention the claimers know it.
Well, in the purest sense of "Player vs Player", Eve (except for mission bounties) really is 100% pvp.
I think it may be better to say that Eve is all about competition though, since most people don't think of things as extreme as shooting others in the face when you say "competition" rather than "pvp" ---
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