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Toolbert
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Posted - 2008.08.21 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: GM Guard Hi everyone.
There has been a lot of speculation on this thread, some of it close to the truth, some of it not so.
I feel it is best at this point to clarify what happened, and why it happened, since the players involved have brought their version of events to the forum for public scrutiny.
The titan pilot had an alt on another account. That alt received 45 billion ISK - DIRECTLY - from many assorted ISK selling accounts. I am referring to those cut up streams of ISK donations, each totaling a few hundred million, with explanations that make very little sense. "Thx for your protection"..."Boy your ship"(sic)...etc.
All of this ISK was later transferred to the titan pilot directly by his alt and shortly thereafter the alt was deleted. The 45 billion ISK was used to fund the larger part of the titan that we later decided to remove from the game.
We discovered all of this during a routine investigation into an ISK selling operation that had been hacking accounts with key loggers and stealing ISK from players. We were not willing to overlook the fact that someone had just bought a Titan with ISK that came directly from account hacking ISK sellers. Blame us if you want.
Whether the ISK was "skimmed" off the top of some rent deal has yet to be proven and nothing we have seen so far points to that. We actually only heard that explanation after our lengthy talks with the titan pilot came to an end. He had every opportunity to explain the deal to us if indeed it is real, but chose not to for some reason. The explanations we got instead were insubstantial and not consistent with our logs.
Contrary to what has been stated on this thread, we did actually make some efforts to compensate other alliance members for their contributions to this project and as of now those efforts are still ongoing.
I can safely speak for every EVE GM when I say that none of us enjoys a mess like this one. We know that removing a titan, even one funded in this manner, causes distress for innocent alliance members, but the presence of ISK sellers causes such an amount of problems for our players that we have to take a firm stance.
The best way to avoid problems of this nature is to refrain from engaging in any sort of business with ISK sellers.
Best Regards, Lead GM Guard EVE Online Customer Support
I thought it was CCPs policy to not discuss this sort of thing no matter what? |
Toolbert
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.21 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Synapse Archae
Originally by: Lemonx
Originally by: GM Guard That alt received 45 billion ISK - DIRECTLY - from many assorted ISK selling accounts. I am referring to those cut up streams of ISK donations, each totaling a few hundred million, with explanations that make very little sense.
Many but not all or most? Few hundred million isk per char? Thats 150+ diffrent chars then? Were all those banned too?
No you dolt they obviously left them in the game so they could hack more accounts. I mean, where's the risk vs reward if your account can't be hacked right?
Of course they banned them.
Since CCP is breaking their own policy on not discussing banned accounts, I would like to see some actual proof that these isk sellers and farmers are being banned. |
Toolbert
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.21 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Toolbert
I thought it was CCPs policy to not discuss this sort of thing no matter what?
I'm glad they did.
I'm not, shows how little integrity they have. Its bad enough CCP only keeps the isk farmers and sellers around until they make a real big mess of things. |
Toolbert
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.21 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Toolbert I'm not, shows how little integrity they have. Its bad enough CCP only keeps the isk farmers and sellers around until they make a real big mess of things.
So if you dislike them so much, why are you still here?
hurrrrrr clearly because I dont agree with one thing I think this game is horrible
who wants to be the first pubbie to get all of my stuff because i'm quitting, cya guys later!
how ****ing stupid are you? |
Toolbert
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.21 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Toolbert
hurrrrrr clearly because I dont agree with one thing I think this game is horrible
I wish you'd just exercise your right to remain silent.
I'll keep that in mind if CCP ever decides to release your personal information if they ever deem it convenient.
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Toolbert
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.21 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Toolbert I'll keep that in mind if CCP ever decides to release your personal information if they ever deem it convenient.
Dude, please nerdrage when it's valid instead.
Okay whatever, CCP making themselves look like hypocrits doesn't effect my enjoyment of the game anyways. I figured they would have just learned their lesson after the last few times they have done things like this and it exploded in their face causing a huge amount of drama.
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Toolbert
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Posted - 2008.08.22 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Setana Manoro Edited by: Setana Manoro on 22/08/2008 15:37:18
Originally by: Toolbert
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Toolbert I'm not, shows how little integrity they have. Its bad enough CCP only keeps the isk farmers and sellers around until they make a real big mess of things.
So if you dislike them so much, why are you still here?
hurrrrrr clearly because I dont agree with one thing I think this game is horrible
who wants to be the first pubbie to get all of my stuff because i'm quitting, cya guys later!
how ****ing stupid are you?
Put up, shut up, or do something about it. Either way, stop whining about your perceived unfairness of a internet spaceships game, your SA masters would be dissapointed by your n00bishness.
Also, after 6 pages, when we find the whole story, i'd like to see the ppl that still stand by dino's credibility, including some of the alliance leaders that posted - warned you about looking like a fool kiaeddz.
So ... Ketch, can i have your stuff before you /wrists on your accounts ?
Okay since fairness and serious business mean nothing, I hope CCP stops banning ISK farmers and buyers. No need to do it since its just an internet spaceship game. Who cares?
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