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BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.08.14 13:02:00 - [1] Quote: We're still making adjustments to missiles on our internal servers, we've been tweaking the numbers using the current missile damage formula but also exploring other possibilities. Thats from from nozh.. Although many of us are inclined to think it will be a nerf to missiles, perhaps at the same time they may fix citadel torps? After all, the word tweak doesnt ussually mean a negative..right?..right? (my hopes arent high) poudly annoying fc's since 2007 http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=828123 caldari drone boat enthusiast
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.08.14 13:02:00 - [2] Quote: We're still making adjustments to missiles on our internal servers, we've been tweaking the numbers using the current missile damage formula but also exploring other possibilities. Thats from from nozh.. Although many of us are inclined to think it will be a nerf to missiles, perhaps at the same time they may fix citadel torps? After all, the word tweak doesnt ussually mean a negative..right?..right? (my hopes arent high) poudly annoying fc's since 2007 http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=828123 caldari drone boat enthusiast

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2008.08.14 14:47:00 - [3] If something is broken/not working, you fix it. - I don't believe that Citadel torpedoes are broken, they are working (You fire them, they hit and do damage). If something is imbalanced you tweak, tune or balance it. - You and some other people seem to believe that Citadel torpedoes are imbalanced. It is not my place to say what I think on this matter, but if you want to comment on new changes currently on Singularity or Tranquility you can post on this forum. If you want to comment/suggest new things (features and ideas) you should use the Features and Ideas discussion. Changes to Citadel torpedoes are of the later kind, since the changes to missiles are still on the drawing board. If you want to be a part of the development and balancing of changes, I suggest you wait until they are available for testing and then give your feedback. Speculating randomly doesn't really give much. However if you have ideas or input on what future things should be tweaked; Like I said earlier, feel free to use the Features and Ideas discussion forum. Speculations are in general a bad thing, well backed up ideas and feedback are something we welcome. Here is the previous thread on Citadel Torpedoes: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=774603 Good luck.

Mioelnir Minmatar Meltd0wn Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.08.14 14:53:00 - [4] This post has been cleared of inappropriate content. Regards, The EVE Online Moderation team
Nye Jaran	Posted - 2008.08.14 14:55:00 - [5] Originally by: CCP Casqade If something is broken/not working, you fix it. - I don't believe that Citadel torpedoes are broken, they are working (You fire them, they hit and do damage). Right, when they aren't blown to pieces with a SB. That's the only thing I dislike with Citadel Torps, they need an HP buff. I'm not saying that they need to be immune to SBs, that's part of the onus of missile systems. I'm just saying that they need to be a little harder to kill than they are.

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2008.08.14 14:57:00 - [6] Originally by: Nye Jaran Originally by: CCP Casqade If something is broken/not working, you fix it. - I don't believe that Citadel torpedoes are broken, they are working (You fire them, they hit and do damage). Right, when they aren't blown to pieces with a SB. That's the only thing I dislike with Citadel Torps, they need an HP buff. I'm not saying that they need to be immune to SBs, that's part of the onus of missile systems. I'm just saying that they need to be a little harder to kill than they are. Yes. And if you believe that, you may suggest changes to them in the "Features and Ideas" discussion forum. This forum is for changes that are available for testing. "Test server feedback, comments to changes and fixes." meaning, comments/feedback to changes and fixes that are currently on the servers. Missile changes are not, therefore that "Feedback" or rather Speculation does not belong here.

Nye Jaran	Posted - 2008.08.14 15:06:00 - [7] Edited by: Nye Jaran on 14/08/2008 15:07:20 Originally by: CCP Casqade I am not rejecting your suggestions, I'm just pointing you in the right direction and to the correct forum. Edit: N/M, I see that link you provided is actually in the 'correct forum'.
Castelo Branco Caldari Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.08.14 20:32:00 - [8] Originally by: CCP Casqade If something is broken/not working, you fix it. - I don't believe that Citadel torpedoes are broken, they are working (You fire them, they hit and do damage. Well, as said before I do not complaining about citadel torps versus smartbombs. I am complaining because what CCP Casqade said (quoted) is not entirely true. Citadel torpedoes are broken with no damage when siege module is turn on/off. Torps fired with siege module off do no damage at targets if siege module goes on when torps are flying to target. The opposite is true either, if siege module is on and we fire a citadel torp, the torp will hit target for zero damage if the siege module goes off in the ôfly to targetö time. That is the real parte of citadel torpedoes that is really broken. Not the smartbomb situation (with is game designed).
Deros Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.14 20:57:00 - [9] actually you are completely wrong, citadel torps in relation to siege cycle work fine. starting a siege cycle removes lock from any target previously locked, and lowers the number of lockable targets to 2. torpedoes are guided weapons, as such they must have a lock on a target and be GUIDED. activating a module that removes your target lock, removes information about that lock being transfered to the torp. hence, no damage hit. technically the torp would go off and detonate or die somewhere else, but for ease, torps hit, doing no damage and disappear. the smartbomb issue is one that should be dealt with, but then again at the same time, defenders should be made useful rather than their laughable existance currently.
PirceHat	Posted - 2008.08.14 20:59:00 - [10] Edited by: PirceHat on 14/08/2008 21:00:07 Quote: - I don't believe that Citadel torpedoes are broken, they are working (You fire them, they hit and do damage). Loldevs. No they don't, as per the poster above me has explained in more depth.

BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:49:00 - [11] lol, im rather stoked that the other cit-torp thread is what 4 pages long without a response and i got a response first time ^^ Plz respond to some of the arguments in the thread you linked thx ccp, as thats got generally better suggestions/ideas there... poudly annoying fc's since 2007 http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=828123 caldari drone boat enthusiast
Synapse Archae Amarr Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.08.15 07:40:00 - [12] Deros: you didnt consider what happens when the siege mod turns OFF...in which case you keep your lock, and your torps do 0 damage. Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2008.08.15 07:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Synapse Archae Deros: you didnt consider what happens when the siege mod turns OFF...in which case you keep your lock, and your torps do 0 damage. Not to mention that annoying bug with all missiles, in that when you engage warp any missiles in flight while your aligning (after clicking the warp button) do 0 damage while guns still hit.
Yon89 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 11:42:00 - [14] After flying a phoenix for the first time a day ago my initial impression was that geez how cool is this... that is untill i saw the revilation next to me looking so cool. besides that i think that the speed of the torp should have a bit of a speed buff but but that is all if you could make the torps come out the front of the phonex sort of like how torps and cruse come out the frount of the raven. Yon ============= SIG SIG SIG

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2008.08.15 11:44:00 - [15] It seems that people are not getting the message here. Suggestions on how to balance and improve the game should be put in Features and Ideas discussion forum, not here. The only time you discuss balance here is if there are changes currently deployed on the test server, or recent changes deployed to Tranquility. That, and of course bugs. Locking this now, please follow the link I posted.


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