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Zarest
Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.08.12 08:20:00 -
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As I read the forums I see people trying to figure out a way to do away with people who sit in systems for hours on end AFK cloaked.
The question is how to balance cloaking devices without making them useless. My idea for this is the POS Cloaking System Jammer. It would have the same requirements as the Cyno System Jammer to anchor it.
It would require sovereignty level 3 and would not allow any ships with out a covert ops cloak to cloak in the system it is active in.
Ships fitted with a covert ops cloak would have a ten minute countdown timer that would count down on your screen to inform them when they are about to uncloak. There would be no restrictions on how many times you can reactivate the covert ops cloak in the system. The timer for covet ops cloaks is just there to make sure you are not afk.
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Zarest
Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.08.12 08:20:00 -
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As I read the forums I see people trying to figure out a way to do away with people who sit in systems for hours on end AFK cloaked.
The question is how to balance cloaking devices without making them useless. My idea for this is the POS Cloaking System Jammer. It would have the same requirements as the Cyno System Jammer to anchor it.
It would require sovereignty level 3 and would not allow any ships with out a covert ops cloak to cloak in the system it is active in.
Ships fitted with a covert ops cloak would have a ten minute countdown timer that would count down on your screen to inform them when they are about to uncloak. There would be no restrictions on how many times you can reactivate the covert ops cloak in the system. The timer for covet ops cloaks is just there to make sure you are not afk.
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Xindi Kraid
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Posted - 2008.08.12 10:36:00 -
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If the person is AFK then what exactly is the peoblem? They can't spy on the system if they aren't there.
For the covert ops that is actually there maybe the ship scanning arraycan detect cloaked ships 5% of the time. In which case actually finding a cloaked ship would take half an hour or more. Long enough for said ship to drop probes and do a quick scan or possibly frop a covert cyno. Ya know. Covert ops type stuff --Bird of Prey: Forum God
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.08.12 10:48:00 -
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Stop being lazy:
1. Get your ratters/miners/carebears on TS or what ever comms you have.
2. Get them to gang up when they carebear.
3. If the afk cloaker uncloaks and attacks somebody warp to the guy he is attacking and kill him.
4. Eventually he will leave or not uncloak.
Just because your alliance/corp is unorganized, lazy, stupid and cannot be bothered to do anything about it is no reason to nerf cloaks or give you a module that will support your unorganized, lazy and stupid way of playing.
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Mag's
MASS
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Posted - 2008.08.12 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 12/08/2008 10:59:17 Stop being lazy:
1. Get your ratters/miners/carebears on TS or what ever comms you have.
2. Get them to gang up when they carebear.
3. If the afk cloaker uncloaks and attacks somebody, then warp to the guy he is attacking and kill him.
4. Eventually he will leave or not uncloak.
Just because your alliance/corp is unorganized, lazy, stupid and cannot be bothered to do anything about it is no reason to nerf cloaks or give you a module that will support your unorganized, lazy and stupid way of playing.
This.
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.12 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Lubimchik on 12/08/2008 11:32:21 No no no...
Hes not being lazy. I feel there needs to be a way to get those pesky cloaked people in your system as well.
Maybe not cause they are afk but instead cause a whole nano gang jumps you and then safe spots and cloaks and waits for aggression, and then just repeats these lame hit and run cloaking methods until they log.
I dont think jamming a cloak is necessary (though I found out yesterday that concord can do that shit if you enter a system where your sec status is to low... I lubbed that falcon too!)
Personally I think decloaking modules should come in two flavors and be used by dictors (both light and heavy)
The light flavor is like a bubble that is deployed from the interdiction sphere launcher. It simply puts up a bubble that decloaks ALL cloaked ships inside the bubble and keeps them from cloaking.
Then the heavy dictor version is a script, that does the same thing as the hic sphere but it only decloaks and keeps them decloaked.
Combine this with a probe that can lock onto cloaking systems (say the massive amounts of power it takes to cloak a ship) and I feel that you would have a pretty good way to hunt down that cloaked ship with out making cloaking completely useless. It would take some work from the people wanting to hunt the cloaked ship but would make it so it just wasn't freaking impossible!
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.08.12 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lubimchik
No no no...
Hes not being lazy. I feel there needs to be a way to get those pesky cloaked people in your system as well.
Maybe not cause they are afk but instead cause a whole nano gang jumps you and then safe spots and cloaks and waits for aggression, and then just repeats these lame hit and run cloaking methods until they log.
Cloaking nano's now is it?.
Ok pal im sure the super cloaking nano/capital ship/multi titan/mothership/dev hax/ccp member gangs, that pester your carebears 23/7 and are cloaked in all of your systems just waiting for you to undock are annoying.
But the rest of eve and the alliances in it are organized to deal with the standard run of the mill solo afk cloaker and small roaming gang.
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.12 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Lubimchik
No no no...
Hes not being lazy. I feel there needs to be a way to get those pesky cloaked people in your system as well.
Maybe not cause they are afk but instead cause a whole nano gang jumps you and then safe spots and cloaks and waits for aggression, and then just repeats these lame hit and run cloaking methods until they log.
Cloaking nano's now is it?.
Ok pal im sure the super cloaking nano/capital ship/multi titan/mothership/dev hax/ccp member gangs, that pester your carebears 23/7 and are cloaked in all of your systems just waiting for you to undock are annoying.
But the rest of eve and the alliances in it are organized to deal with the standard run of the mill solo afk cloaker and small roaming gang.
lmao... no no.. I am far from carebear friend.
We believe it or not had a group of vagas hit us that would safe spot and cloak... wait for aggression and then repeat. It was believe it or not rather annoying.
Further more it would also make finding that cloaked capital ship little less secure in enemy territory.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.08.12 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 12/08/2008 12:07:48
Originally by: Lubimchik
lmao... no no.. I am far from carebear friend.
17 kills 3 losses on battle clinic ok bud we all do tremble at your pvp prowess.
Originally by: Lubimchik We believe it or not had a group of vagas hit us that would safe spot and cloak... wait for aggression and then repeat.
Wait for aggression on or for what?. Let me guess, you proly sat station hugging letting them dictate the engagement totally?.
And if they kept repeating then only a totally incompetent alliance would not have set a trap for them after the first time let alone several more attacks.
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente Excessive Force
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:12:00 -
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It's quite apparent that Cloaks are great for Psychological Warfare.
You have no idea whether the person is a CovOps, hiding in a distant corner of the system, and actually gone to the grocery store all day.
OR... they could be a cloaked Titan, perched RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!!
The paranoia that drives people to imagine that such a passive module deserves a POS MODULE to counter it... amazing.
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coeathal vega
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:25:00 -
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I'm not a big fan of 23/7 cloakers, but... it's an element of the game.
Probably sooner or later Cloaks on anything else than Covops/Recons/Blackops will get nerfed. As everything else in this game... :) ----
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