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fugazii Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2008.07.22 05:58:00 - [31] Originally by: mynnna Edited by: mynnna on 22/07/2008 01:37:30 Originally by: Akov Stohs Watch the sov map for updates :] That's funny, and here I thought MAX was all about causing lots of damage, not taking sov. Moving goalposts spotted. I predict a "dining in NOL" reference appears in less than five posts. Wouldn't you agree putting pos's on high end moons after they've blown the previous pos up would be causing alot of damage? Preventing your enemy from benefiting from those moons while reaping the benefits is causing lots of damage. The description of the campaign is max damage. Not max damage in accordance with the following guidelines 1... 2... 3... ect. "There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f*****g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.22 07:15:00 - [32] To answer to the OP Quote: I'm genuinely interested to know just how much devestation "MAXiumum damage" has caused. The answer is: yes. -clp
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.22 07:38:00 - [33] Originally by: Nick Curso Originally by: Metal Dude Seeeaaaaarchiiiiing, seek and destroy! dum de dum de d de dim de dum de dille dum Ok, admit it, I *did* stand up and air guitarred for a few seconds. \o/ /Lowa
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.07.22 07:56:00 - [34] Originally by: Lowa Originally by: Nick Curso Originally by: Metal Dude Seeeaaaaarchiiiiing, seek and destroy! dum de dum de d de dim de dum de dille dum Ok, admit it, I *did* stand up and air guitarred for a few seconds. \o/ /Lowa No its a Metallica song your supposed to cover your ears and hum Dio so you can block out the drap duside tone deaf cat wailing.
Dashboard Hard Rock Cafe	Posted - 2008.07.22 08:11:00 - [35] I'd like to point out that "Nice region, we'll take it" could not possibly apply to Pure Blind.
RiotRick Black-Sun Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.07.22 10:27:00 - [36] Originally by: Skylis Avenstar I heard they're having a frontal impact ZING Indeed we do Brace for impact! The future is black. Brace for impact!
Gamesguy Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.22 10:48:00 - [37] Originally by: Kaori Makimura Since the bobbits are coming out of the woodworks here.... Is the posbashing limited to 0.0 or are you also going at empire-POSs like irons dyspromoon in black rise and assorted empire-POSs used for logistics in the lowsec near nc space? You should check that moon again.
Rick Rothsar Ghosts of Ragnarok	Posted - 2008.07.22 10:59:00 - [38] Originally by: Dashboard I'd like to point out that "Nice region, we'll take it" could not possibly apply to Pure Blind. this.
Ni Gaplees Minmatar 420 join a corp every day	Posted - 2008.07.22 11:06:00 - [39] my feelings on this matter
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.07.22 11:09:00 - [40] Originally by: Dashboard I'd like to point out that "Nice region, we'll take it" could not possibly apply to Pure Blind. It's all relative, it is nice compared to Geminate.
Aethana Minmatar Caldari Strike Force	Posted - 2008.07.22 11:27:00 - [41] They could cause more damage if they would clear some of the low sec, pos fininishing systems... There are many systems that have 10-30 pos towers in low sec, poorly set up, no cyno jammer (obviously... These towers take all the semi-finished products from entire regions and 0.0, then turn them into final t2 gear as well as provide staging points for cap ships, labs, and other stuff... Taking some of these systems is like lopping the head off a snake... It will easily cripple an alliance and then require them to either: 1) anchor another 10-20 large towers in 0.0 2) completely reroute pos traffic 3) get new jumping routes from empire 4) dismantle networks of small and medium towers 5) sell raws and semi-produced stuff
Jallem Sims Minmatar Quantum Warriors	Posted - 2008.07.22 12:56:00 - [42] nothing is happening... the nap sits and watches a bubble... bob hit pos's. epic fighting!! max fun... bob know how to bring it. the nap knows how to counter... wooooohoooo \o/ don't worry, the rest of eve will get bored, bob will claim victory they so uber they beat everyone... but really... did anyone care in the end after they just got bored of it all. new bobbets will jump on bandwagon, cliam they won eve too. tbh honest.... nap leaders need new leaders that will aleast die trying to get good fights and have fun. Everyone can see bob isn't trying to get good fights with their hot dropping itchy figures. I am sure after a few crashed nods, bob will get bored too... but right now, bob are watching the nap sit and get bored while they actively do SOMETHING!! even if it is rather pointless moon pos bashing :-/ but then this is what bob want... the nc to attack them, so there cap fleet can blob out the sun. If the NC dropped all their caps onto bob, while bob drops all there caps onto NC, that nod is going to go pop!!
The Blinded GK inc.	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:03:00 - [43] It must be pretty boring to camp in CCP-US if you have to post such a verbal diarrhoea. But dont worry, they are not going to jump into your camp until the rest of the region is demolished. Happy boring camping.
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:30:00 - [44] Originally by: Typhoon Struggle Originally by: Viqtoria words like violence destroy the silence never gonna give you up let you down spin you round desert you Words like violence Break the silence Come crashing in Into my little world Painful to me Pierce right through me Can't you understand Oh my little girl All I ever wanted All I ever needed Is here in my arms Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm Farjung is my God
Lumen Atra GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:36:00 - [45] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: mynnna Edited by: mynnna on 22/07/2008 01:37:30 Originally by: Akov Stohs Watch the sov map for updates :] That's funny, and here I thought MAX was all about causing lots of damage, not taking sov. Moving goalposts spotted. I predict a "dining in NOL" reference appears in less than five posts. Wouldn't you agree putting pos's on high end moons after they've blown the previous pos up would be causing alot of damage? Preventing your enemy from benefiting from those moons while reaping the benefits is causing lots of damage. The description of the campaign is max damage. Not max damage in accordance with the following guidelines 1... 2... 3... ect. They did say they wanted to cause max damage, not do the same ole pos warfare nor take territory. So yeah, there were guidelines in terms of what they presented to the public eye. What you propose is no different than any other war. If they actually did what they say they would, that would be far more entertaining. But, right now it boils down to POS warfare still.
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:34:00 - [46] Edited by: Moonlight Express on 22/07/2008 14:34:52 Originally by: Lumen Atra They did say they wanted to cause max damage, not do the same ole pos warfare nor take territory. So yeah, there were guidelines in terms of what they presented to the public eye. What you propose is no different than any other war. If they actually did what they say they would, that would be far more entertaining. But, right now it boils down to POS warfare still. Maybe if goons did what you said you'll do, live in Delve and try to send BoB back to empire, BoB would not have to go anywhere.
Princess Jodi Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:35:00 - [47] Originally by: Aethana They could cause more damage if they would clear some of the low sec, pos fininishing systems... There are many systems that have 10-30 pos towers in low sec, poorly set up, no cyno jammer (obviously... These towers take all the semi-finished products from entire regions and 0.0, then turn them into final t2 gear as well as provide staging points for cap ships, labs, and other stuff... Taking some of these systems is like lopping the head off a snake... It will easily cripple an alliance and then require them to either: 1) anchor another 10-20 large towers in 0.0 2) completely reroute pos traffic 3) get new jumping routes from empire 4) dismantle networks of small and medium towers 5) sell raws and semi-produced stuff 6) trap Bob in a Low-Sec system where they cannot DoomsDay 7) trap Bob in a Low-Sec system where they cannot assign Fighters. 8) trap Bob in a Low-Sec system where they can't see fleets comming from Empire at them 9) split Bob up when they are forced to run cuz some can enter Empire while others have to retreat to 0.0, where space is hostile to them 10) overwhelm Bob cuz their enemies have plenty of ships in their staging areas while Bob does not 11) reap Bob pod after pod that is trying to get away 12) ... 13) Profit There. Finished that for you.
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:43:00 - [48] Seem to forget that the knife cuts both ways.... According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Cpt Lollercakes Warriors of COAD	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:46:00 - [49] Originally by: Nick Curso This will end well I know it Indeed it has. The true objective has been reached and exceeded. Sales of pink furry hats are out stripping demand!
TZeer BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:56:00 - [50] Impact incomming!!
Richard Angevian The Crusaders.	Posted - 2008.07.22 15:04:00 - [51] MAXFail doesn't seem to be having much impact at all, except to cost CCP, uh, BOB a lot of ISK for lost ships and to harass the broken regions that once was held by Tri. Frankly "max" is nothing but pure propaganda, designed to fool everyone into thinking that bob still can somehow "control" EVE, when the fact of the matter is they proved last year that they CANT. We now know that under the current system, bob can at most hold Delve, Querious and Period Basis, and that if they expand beyond that they become too spread out and will be driven back. Furthermore, they can be pushed back into only Delve under determined assault by all other powers, but not expelled given the frankly ridiculous advantages that this region has that no other does. Bob knows all this because they learned the hard way, which is why unless they are foolish they won't expand much beyond what they have now. Frankly, the whole "Max" thing is nothing more than an admission that bob cannot win any actual wars of conquest without jeopardizing their home regions, so "conquest by smoke and mirrors" is offered as a substitute. And everyone here is falling for it, and it's pretty disgusting that the ISD is used as a propaganda tool. Or is it? One thought I've had recently is that IS there sufficient opposition to bob left out there to smash them back into Delve again? The Southern Coalition basically exists today in name only, what with RA and their Russian satellite alliances (Solar/Solar/XDeath/UL/AAA) backstabbing former ally after former ally (of course it's the satellite alliances that do the dirty work for RA, but note that all those alliances are one big blue to each other family). The SC is so fractured at this point that I don't think that anywhere near the force that was there before can be brought against the bobbits. If you were in the SC, would you commit your forces to living in Delve whilst leaving your home space vulnerable to attack by one of RA's "eastern bloc" satellites?
Tyra Ba'aleron Minmatar FACTOR 8	Posted - 2008.07.22 15:37:00 - [52] Attacks NC, gets spanked, gives up after a few battles Attacks random uninhabited fade station, claims they are doing great just wants good fights
Kalissa D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:21:00 - [53] I think Bob's tactics during this attack have been pretty sound for the most part. They started out with a few initial attacks on some of the stations in Dek obviously trying to gain a foothold and somewhere to base out of but by their own admission got their ass handed to them by a firmly entrenched enemy with a titan or two. Bob then play it smart and they go after the money making ability of northern entities, the NC wont dare move out of the station systems for fear of leaving a hole in the defences. So while the NC sit back and defend the stations BoB are slowly but surely hurting them in the pocket. The North should not look on the fact they have held onto their stations in Dek as a victory, after all they are paying a very high price financially for holding onto the stations, but I would say from their point of view it is the lesser of two evils, if BoB were to get a foothold in somewhere like Ya0 or VFK then tbh they're screwed. One little point the NC should bear in mind now is that it is most likely that all ship losses inflicted on Bob now are now covered by the moons that the NC have meekly let Bob take from them.
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:32:00 - [54] Edited by: Kaaii on 22/07/2008 16:36:28 Originally by: Kalissa One little point the NC should bear in mind now is that it is most likely that all ship losses inflicted on Bob now are now covered by the moons that the NC have meekly let Bob take from them. According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Mia Archer Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:03:00 - [55] when did RA towers become NC towers :P
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:09:00 - [56] Originally by: Mia Archer when did RA towers become NC towers :P NC is merely a name given to the group of alliances allied to eachother in the north right? That would also make RA part of it, considering they have space in the north and are allied to the alliances part of the NC.
MirrorGod Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:20:00 - [57] 0.0 Sounds like so much fun, Gee whiz, I wish I was cool enough to play in 0.0 instead of FW. Recruitment: [ANTI]
Lunas Feelgood S.A.S	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:53:00 - [58] Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 22/07/2008 18:01:07 Originally by: TWD Originally by: Mia Archer when did RA towers become NC towers :P NC is merely a name given to the group of alliances allied to eachother in the north right? That would also make RA part of it, considering they have space in the north and are allied to the alliances part of the NC. Hey lets kill some RA Moon towers and call them NC that way our 500 ships we lost the last couple of weeks to Iron/rzaor doesnt look so bad WTF is next I wonder what about you start killing Noobship in Jita and call them NC?? Also on another note I think its preatty damm funny that you chose a target that you thought was easy: NC Iron/razor and then they somehow manage to give you the biggest spanking molly have ever got since well ever. And the only way to save face is start kllling RA towers and call them NC Im gonna log on find a POS in aridia and shoot then then ill make some ****ed up post on CAOD saying im killing BOB and the end is near rabble rabble. Seriously muppets cant you see the little problem we got here??? Hello?? Bob Highcommand: We planned it all BOB: Hey its unfair Goons killed all our pets and we are now outnumbered
Landra Sangana Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 18:00:00 - [59] i think the point he was tryin to make is that the cost of the ships lost by bob to the NC have been covered by the income from the moons theyve taken from RA not that the k/d ratio has evened out just the isk cost has been
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.22 18:01:00 - [60] Calm down. If it's true that the NC doesn't consider RA part of their coalition and doesn't care what happens to their assets it would explain why there has been so little effort from them to protect it.

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