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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
113
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:54:00 -
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Highsec has been getting safer and safer. Every time one of us thinks up some clever way to visit violence upon carebears, we get nerfed. We keep thinking up more interesting stuff, but it only lasts so long before it gets nerfed.
Since I've started my life as a scoundrel they've systematically nerfed tons of solid grief.
First they nerfed ninja salvaging and mission invasion, and to pound the final nail in that coffin they introduced the Noctis.
They've nerfed wreck baiting such that you cannot currently make an unsalvagable wreck.
They've done everything they can to make sure that Orcas serve as little purpose for scoundrels and cutthroats as possible.
They've removed insurance payouts for suicide gankers.
They even visited special attention on The Skunkworks directly in our efforts to help deal with the Incursion problems.
There is a well known bug that allows a corp infiltrator to be kicked in the middle of a gank, resulting in Concordokken and, while I do know a guy several monthes ago that got a ship reimbursed for it, to my knowledge no one has ever been banned or even warned for doing it.
And then, the mother of them all, they legalized dec scraping and corp hopping, causing the merc business to all but dry up and blow away. Many merc outfits, including The Orphanage, have essentially shut their doors, and those few that remain are hollow shells of their former selves. To add insult to that injury, corp hopping is perfectly legal except when you hop while on grid with a victim. While I'll be the first to tell you that mechanic is really lame, banning it while everything else is legal means the lameness does not cut both way.
As a side-effect, POS's in highsec have been functionally invincible for months and nothing has been done about it.
And now, as the straw that broke the camels back is undocumented stealth nerfs to sec status repair and reshipping while under GCC.
Conversely, what happens when carebears have a spell of cleverness? They get content. When they started using GSCs to live out of, they got POS towers. They get propped up and we get pounded down.
It's a Red Queen's Race and we're falling behind.
I'm told that there's a light at the end of the tunnel in the form of Inferno, but as a close friend of mine once told me, you should hold out one hand marked Hope and one hand marked **** and see which one fills up first. Any promises made at this point will be treated like a statement that we're having unicorn meat for dinner. Until I see sparkles and a horn on my fork, I don't believe it.
How did this happen, you ask? Simple. We've fought with our guns, our fits, our knowledge of mechanics, our social engineering and carebears have fought back with complaining. They've complained about everything to the point that they're down to complaining about getting cargo-scanned. And I'm sure even that will catch a nerf.
So what now? We're being pushed out of the game. Is it possible to stay in and do some bits of grief here and there? Maybe. How much longer is it worth it? At what point is so far from the cutthroat, take no prisoners game that I fell in love with?
So here's what's going to happen. If we can't have this game, neither can the carebears.
I am putting up all the money I can scratch together to fund a crime spree. You think it was bad when we were shoplifting Slim-Jims? Well now we're going to burn the 7-11 to the ******* ground. The Skunkworks will be flipping tables and stabbing people in broad daylight and we're inviting everyone who operates in highsec in a PvP way to join us. We're not even out for profit or our own amusement. We're out for blood and tears. We want rage quits and people punching monitors. We want each and every griefer, cutthroat, shitheel, mercenary, scammer, spy, thief and puppy-kicker to be stomping through the post-apocalyptic wasteland that used to be highsec, swinging wrecking-ball fists at anything stupid enough to get in our way.
And while this sentiment and a commitment from The Skunkworks is all fine and good, nothing motivates the moderates like cold hard cash. I'm not rich. I don't run incursions and I don't own a tech moon. But I'll put what I can towards this. Subsequently, I'll be putting up the following prizes:
Suicide ganks
Most pods ganked GÇô 1b Most damaging smartbomb suicide gank GÇô 250m Most exhumers ganked GÇô 1b GÇ£I hope you updated itGÇ¥ Most expensive two pods owned by the same pilot killed on the same day GÇô 250m Most ganks in a noob system GÇô 100m
Safaris
Every green-on-green kill over 200m gets an entry to win 500m Every green-on-greed kill over 50m by a character with less than 250,000 sp gets an entry to win 250m Most unique pilots killed by getting the victim into a fake corp for the purpose of killing them. Characters must be older than three weeks to count. - 250m
Tears
Best tears (screenshot or voice recording) GÇô double the isk value of the associated kill, up to 500m. I will hand out this prize multiple times if there's good tears on cheap kills, up to 500m total.
Misc-
Most strategic cruisers killed by any method in highsec GÇô a strategic cruiser of your choice. Most expensive Jump Freighter killed in highsec by any method GÇô a wardec against the sov-holding entity of your choice by Privateers.
Additionally, I will be handing out free suicide destroyers throughout the event.
It will run from 0000 eve time on Friday the 23rd to 0000 eve time on Friday April 6th.
If anyone wants to donate prizes or offer help or suggestions convo me or join the channel GÇ£Crime SpreeGÇ¥ |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
113
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:54:00 -
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Reserved. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
113
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:54:00 -
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Also reserved. |
MickeyFinn
The Skunkworks
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:59:00 -
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Let us all do GOD's Work! come all and burn this mother down! Mauh CCP! |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1854
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:00:00 -
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high sec problems (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Reppyk
The Black Shell P O D
67
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:15:00 -
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Kill everything, post ponies, claim the goodies ! |
RiskyFrisky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:16:00 -
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Donated 100 mil <3 |
Horratio Antillies
The Hebrew In Me
3
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:40:00 -
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I have reactivated and i will donate a plex to this cause.
CCP needs to stop killing the sandbox. |
Vangelios
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:53:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:...Well now we're going to burn the 7-11 to the ******* ground... We're not even out for profit or our own amusement. We're out for blood and tears. We want rage quits and people punching monitors....
Oh dude, you need to relax, go outside, watch a sunset or two, stargaze and take a little brake from EVE, rethink why you are wasting your energy and time on this game... and above all, think about your life...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you...
ps. There is no shame in visiting psychologist if things get out of control.
...-áEach small candle Lights a corner of the dark... |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
117
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Posted - 2012.03.16 01:10:00 -
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Nah, I'm good. I just don't like what's happening to the game I love, so I'm doing something about it. |
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MickeyFinn
The Skunkworks
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 01:47:00 -
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Vangelios wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:...Well now we're going to burn the 7-11 to the ******* ground... We're not even out for profit or our own amusement. We're out for blood and tears. We want rage quits and people punching monitors.... Oh dude, you need to relax, go outside, watch a sunset or two, stargaze and take a little brake from EVE, rethink why you are wasting your energy and time on this game... and above all, think about your life...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you... ps. There is no shame in visiting psychologist if things get out of control.
Oh bro, You need to get laid, Get a hooker, jack off once or twice, Enjoy the feeling of a man jamming a anal butt plug in your ass and then rethink why you posted a load of crap on this thread.... You have wasted my time and your energy on this thread.... and above all think about me when you do it all...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you...
P.s. There is shame in getting fcked by a Sknk sideways. |
rareden
The Skunkworks
6
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Posted - 2012.03.16 01:52:00 -
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high sec shall BURRN!! at concord -------------------> http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/237/578/e34.png |
Skadi vonNiflheim
East Citadel Trading Company
3
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:01:00 -
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well better dust off the old mastodon out see you break its tank :). But i fully feel what you are saying about nerfing any form of pvp in high sec. They could have been polite and leave the most prestiges profession of merc be as it is. Oh well guess they have to grow some balls now and go out to null or low sec to fight. |
Vangelios
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:14:00 -
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MickeyFinn wrote:Vangelios wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:...Well now we're going to burn the 7-11 to the ******* ground... We're not even out for profit or our own amusement. We're out for blood and tears. We want rage quits and people punching monitors.... Oh dude, you need to relax, go outside, watch a sunset or two, stargaze and take a little brake from EVE, rethink why you are wasting your energy and time on this game... and above all, think about your life...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you... ps. There is no shame in visiting psychologist if things get out of control. Oh bro, You need to get laid, Get a hooker, jack off once or twice, Enjoy the feeling of a man jamming a anal butt plug in your ass and then rethink why you posted a load of crap on this thread.... You have wasted my time and your energy on this thread.... and above all think about me when you do it all...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you... P.s. There is shame in getting fcked by a Sknk sideways.
Please, let your anger out... it's good for you. Now it's better, right? So, do you have anything else to say about your childhood? ...-áEach small candle Lights a corner of the dark... |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
188
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:17:00 -
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I agree with the sentiment.
Instead of just complaining about the nerfs, take it up a notch. I can say that my -10 alt has been plenty busy since the recent stealth nerf spree.
Planning on contributing to this activity, and I'm sure TEARS will be more than willing to join in. ----After all, this is what we do ever day - prizes or no.
My personal favorite is pushing the Tornado to ganking extremes. Its a real blade of death for miners, and I believe that they are far underutilized by the average suicide ganker, killing one miner at a time.
I want to see how many T2 Exhumers a skilled ganker can kill with a single Tornado before Concord ends the party.
Killing 4 Mackinaws in a row is quite easy, 6 tricky but doable in 0.6. I theorize that 8 is possible in 0.5, but most of those ice belts tend to have fewer targets available....
I'm thinking 500M or so would be a suitable prize, but Psychotic Monk will add it to his original post when the details are worked out.
Oh, and if you are sitting there in the stone age, wondering how you can make 1400MM Arties shoot that fast, in a few days I'll post some of the tricks and refinements I've made to Tornado fits to really make it shine in a glorious, worthy death.
Because, really, what could be finer..... than buying a single T2 Tornado, inflicting 500+ Million in damage to random miners, collect their tears, and end up with enough loot and T2 Salvage that you come out nicely ahead? Nothing, thats what. |
None ofthe Above
121
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:22:00 -
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Sooo, what's the guarantee that you actually pay out these prizes? You putting them in escrow or anything?
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
24
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:46:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Most ganks in a noob system GÇô 100m Burn it all, but please leave the day-old-newbs out of it.
Post with your monkey. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1089
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:48:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Sooo, what's the guarantee that you actually pay out these prizes? You putting them in escrow or anything?
If he doesn't, I will. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
24
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Posted - 2012.03.16 03:04:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Oh, and if you are sitting there in the stone age, wondering how you can make 1400MM Arties shoot that fast, in a few days I'll post some of the tricks and refinements I've made to Tornado fits to really make it shine in a glorious, worthy death. What could possibly give anyone the idea that I'm in the stone age? I do look forward to learning some of these tricks. Post with your monkey. |
RiskyFrisky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.03.16 04:11:00 -
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You know what guarantees you the prize? Doing the objective. Stop being skeptical and go kill **** and get paid. |
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MickeyFinn
The Skunkworks
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 04:14:00 -
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Vangelios wrote:MickeyFinn wrote:Vangelios wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:...Well now we're going to burn the 7-11 to the ******* ground... We're not even out for profit or our own amusement. We're out for blood and tears. We want rage quits and people punching monitors.... Oh dude, you need to relax, go outside, watch a sunset or two, stargaze and take a little brake from EVE, rethink why you are wasting your energy and time on this game... and above all, think about your life...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you... ps. There is no shame in visiting psychologist if things get out of control. Oh bro, You need to get laid, Get a hooker, jack off once or twice, Enjoy the feeling of a man jamming a anal butt plug in your ass and then rethink why you posted a load of crap on this thread.... You have wasted my time and your energy on this thread.... and above all think about me when you do it all...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you... P.s. There is shame in getting fcked by a Sknk sideways. Please, let your anger out... it's good for you. Now it's better, right? So, do you have anything else to say about your childhood?
Was this a open statement of how you were raped as a child? Or are you asking me to do bad things to you when your dressed like a little school boy?
First if your dad did touch you.... Im sorry... We dont care... We will touch you too. Second if you have a little school boy outfit im so down! |
Cannibal Kane
Brotherhood of KANE
293
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Posted - 2012.03.16 06:19:00 -
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Although my plans are not as grand as Skunksworks. I do my bit to irk the good citizens of Highsec.
I shall continue to do what I do, every small bit helps, but I won't corp gank nor will I suicide people. I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist. |
Vangelios
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.03.16 08:10:00 -
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MickeyFinn wrote:Vangelios wrote:MickeyFinn wrote:Vangelios wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:...Well now we're going to burn the 7-11 to the ******* ground... We're not even out for profit or our own amusement. We're out for blood and tears. We want rage quits and people punching monitors.... Oh dude, you need to relax, go outside, watch a sunset or two, stargaze and take a little brake from EVE, rethink why you are wasting your energy and time on this game... and above all, think about your life...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you... ps. There is no shame in visiting psychologist if things get out of control. Oh bro, You need to get laid, Get a hooker, jack off once or twice, Enjoy the feeling of a man jamming a anal butt plug in your ass and then rethink why you posted a load of crap on this thread.... You have wasted my time and your energy on this thread.... and above all think about me when you do it all...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you... P.s. There is shame in getting fcked by a Sknk sideways. Please, let your anger out... it's good for you. Now it's better, right? So, do you have anything else to say about your childhood? Was this a open statement of how you were raped as a child? Or are you asking me to do bad things to you when your dressed like a little school boy? First if your dad did touch you.... Im sorry... We dont care... We will touch you too. Second if you have a little school boy outfit im so down!
Good. I do believe it's working. I sense even more tension in your message, and yet more things are coming out. You are well aware how dangerous repressed memories can be. I'm here to help. It's very important to let all out. Please continue.
Ps. Since you are saddest case of dissociative identity disorder, I've decided to give you my full attention dear sir. ...-áEach small candle Lights a corner of the dark... |
AcidF
The Warp Core Stabilizers Purgat0ry
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 09:54:00 -
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Oh please eve angels help guide my 425 auto`s and 1400`s up thier a$$ and watch the wonderful blue lights and fireworks light up the night and the smile on my face. I shall proudly unzip and hang my Totti3 out of the window and smear it across the windscreens of thier ships proving that its bigger and that they CAN`T do anything BUT Moan !!!!
Bear Blap FTW!!
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Cannibal Kane
Brotherhood of KANE
294
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Posted - 2012.03.16 09:58:00 -
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AcidF wrote:Oh please eve angels help guide my 425 auto`s and 1400`s up thier a$$ and watch the wonderful blue lights and fireworks light up the night and the smile on my face. I shall proudly unzip and hang my Totti3 out of the window and smear it across the windscreens of thier ships proving that its bigger and that they CAN`T do anything BUT Moan !!!!
Bear Blap FTW!!
lol what?
I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist. |
AcidF
The Warp Core Stabilizers Purgat0ry
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 10:24:00 -
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Definition of the Blap :
The act of slapping someone across the face with your p3ni$. They then become your property
Drive / Fly by Blapping. Too slap someone in the face with your meatsword from a vehicle / Ship. It is extremely embarssing for the blappie. Bear got blapped by AcidF, Bear is now AcidF's *****.
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Tora Bushido
Count With Teddy Mercenaries Stay Calm Don't Panic
26
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Posted - 2012.03.16 10:59:00 -
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I agree with most of it..... so a +1 for acting and not whining.... My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Coyote Laughing
Guild of Free Traders
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 11:31:00 -
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Think of hi-sec as a garden....
where fat little care bares can grow nice and fat for you to slaughter when they finally wander into lowsec and have absolutely no clue what we are doing. |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
24
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Posted - 2012.03.16 13:48:00 -
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AcidF wrote: Definition of the Blap :
The act of slapping someone across the face with your p3ni$. They then become your property
Drive / Fly by Blapping. Too slap someone in the face with your meatsword from a vehicle / Ship. It is extremely embarssing for the blappie. Bear got blapped by AcidF, Bear is now AcidF's *****.
Set your orbit to 3cm. Post with your monkey. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1089
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Posted - 2012.03.16 14:15:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:I agree with most of it..... so a +1 for acting and not whining.... We have every intention of doing both. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
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Kelvan Hemanseh
Starwinders The Unwilling.
27
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Posted - 2012.03.16 14:40:00 -
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You should put up a KB so we can aggregate how much misery is being done. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1094
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Posted - 2012.03.16 15:07:00 -
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Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:You should put up a KB so we can aggregate how much misery is being done. With all the name changes going on, most of the killboards don't work right now without API verification. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Naga Elohim
Golden Shellbacks Surely You're Joking
5
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Posted - 2012.03.16 15:15:00 -
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I approve of this message |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1324
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Posted - 2012.03.16 16:36:00 -
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What is this?
People admitting they log in to kill ships and wreck stuff?
What ever happened to the good old days when people would hide behind lame excuses such as "this is EvE" and "it's a sandbox"?
But actually playing to destroy other players' ships, in a PVP game? WTF?
I come here for sociopaths, not game play. What's wrong with you people?
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Captian Otsolen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:18:00 -
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"Most ganks in a noob system GÇô 100m"
Maybe I am wrong, but isn't killing people in one of the starting systems considered griefing and bannable?
http://support.eveonline.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=336 |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1098
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:07:00 -
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Shhhh this is how we filter out the idiots. People dumb enough to go off ganking rookies get banned and we have fewer stupid people playing Eve. I only admit it here because the idiots are too dumb to read past the first post
Also, there are non-rookies in starter systems. Uitra has quite a bit of fighting going on. You just can't shoot the rookies and can baiting/flipping is strictly prohibited. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
FeralShadow
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
75
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:12:00 -
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uh yeah. This event is amazing, and is truly eve to its very core, but killing noobs in the starter systems is a no-no. Successful "carebear" attitudes:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37279 |
Captian Otsolen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:14:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: Shhhh this is how we filter out the idiots.
+1 just for that |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
189
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:36:00 -
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the noob system policy was specifically about jet can baiting.
As far as I know, suicide ganking 1 day old noobs is perfectly legal.
Its also perfectly pointless, as noobs don't really own anything worth ganking yet.
Hard to inflict pain on someone who hasn't yet built up assets worth killing. |
Astroniomix
EliteTroll
12
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Posted - 2012.03.16 19:23:00 -
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Confirming I'm going to need more ammo. |
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Griznatch
Xicron Syndicate Tus Network
86
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:02:00 -
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Have you tried holding your breath and stamping your feet? Thats what the carebears do and they appear to be winning this slap fight.
also, totally not legit edit snipe. I used to have a clever sig but I lost it. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1324
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:04:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Shhhh this is how we filter out the idiots. People dumb enough to go off ganking rookies get banned and we have fewer stupid people playing Eve. I only admit it here because the idiots are too dumb to read past the first post Also, there are non-rookies in starter systems. Uitra has quite a bit of fighting going on. You just can't shoot the rookies and can baiting/flipping is strictly prohibited.
Funny you mention that. Back in '06 I was flying with a fellow who routinely put a can out labeled "free stuff" right where the velators were undocking - popped ships for hours one night. I was barely out of rookie ships myself so it was pointless for me to try. Wonder how old this rule is.
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Baaldor
Sin Factory Anarchy Unlimited
65
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:27:00 -
[43] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Funny you mention that. Back in '06 I was flying with a fellow who routinely put a can out labeled "free stuff" right where the velators were undocking - popped ships for hours one night. I was barely out of rookie ships myself so it was pointless for me to try. Wonder how old this rule is.
I think it is was sometime after the jewbears got their wish for aggression timers for stealing crap from their cans.
And they truly got what they wished for.....
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Amun Khonsu
3-Prong Operational Resources The Fendahlian Collective
31
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:28:00 -
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wth are you on about? Incoherent ranting.
Psychotic Monk wrote:So what now? We're being pushed out of the game.
You are being pushed out of the game because you cant do what you want in "High Security" systems?
What your entire rant amounts to is that you are too cowardly to leave high sec.
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
130
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:45:00 -
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This isn't the thread for that discussion, but I will very briefly cover why I do my favorite work in highsec.
I prefer small gang warfare to huge blobs. I really like it when my individual skill counts for something. What nullsec considers a small gang is twenty dudes and it gets hotdropped by three hundred Drakes. Not really interested.
Additionally, I don't really like the common mass of people. While there are exceptional dudes in most alliances, you have to put up with the hive-mind of mouth-breathing sperglords. I don't want to do that. This dislike may be aggravated by having been in TEST. (love for my TESTies, but about 80% of you I want to choke with my bare hands. Reset TEST.)
Now dec scraping has taken all of the fights out of highsec, so we've been messing about with Wormhole space recently, but we still like to grief, and highsec is our ancestral home.
But now griefing is taking nerf after nerf. So, the thread above. |
tomd741
Insolent Destruction Chaotic Tendencies
5
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:53:00 -
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lol griefer tears best tears!
MOAR TEARS!! |
Apolleneous
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:57:00 -
[47] - Quote
I fail to see the point here, as you are complaining about "PvP" in high-sec, take yourself to low or null and get all you want brah simple, lots of luck with your propaganda though . |
rareden
The Skunkworks
6
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Posted - 2012.03.16 21:29:00 -
[48] - Quote
Apolleneous wrote:I fail to see the point here, as you are complaining about "PvP" in high-sec, take yourself to low or null and get all you want brah simple, lots of luck with your propaganda though .
pro tip, read 2 posts up |
Zubrette
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.03.16 22:08:00 -
[49] - Quote
Apparently CCP's objectives are nerfing fun and condoning botting. Lets hope some new CSM candidates get the "look we fixed our **** after incarna" goggles knocked off their faces. |
Apolleneous
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 22:31:00 -
[50] - Quote
[quote=rareden][quote=Apolleneous]I fail to see the point here, as you are complaining about "PvP" in high-sec, take yourself to low or null and get all you want brah simple, lots of luck with your propaganda though .[/quote
pro tip, read 2 posts up[/quote
Fair enough here is a bit more. Although I sort of get what you are trying to say (who really wants to be 100% safe really), why not just continue to gank players in wormholes? Those players are already well aware of the risk involved. In the thread above you stated, "I really like it when my individual skill counts for something", what "skills" would it really take to go against clueless noobs in high sec? Why not put your skills to a real test, and go for more selective kills in low, wormhole space, or null? So essentially, what I am really getting from all this is that you don't like the odds against you in lo/null sec. |
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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
132
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Posted - 2012.03.16 22:44:00 -
[51] - Quote
Apolleneous wrote:rareden wrote:Apolleneous wrote:I fail to see the point here, as you are complaining about "PvP" in high-sec, take yourself to low or null and get all you want brah simple, lots of luck with your propaganda though . pro tip, read 2 posts up Fair enough here is a bit more. Although I sort of get what you are trying to say (who really wants to be 100% safe really), why not just continue to gank players in wormholes? Those players are already well aware of the risk involved. In the comment above you stated, "I really like it when my individual skill counts for something", what "skills" would it really take to go against clueless noobs in high sec? Why not put your skills to a real test, and go for more selective kills in low, wormhole space, or null? So essentially, what I am really getting from all this is that you don't like the odds against you in lo/null sec.
Ah! Not just a knuckle-dragger. Cool.
Certainly we are rocking the WH space. It's a bit slow, but it's something to do, for sure. But there is another issue. While I don't speak for all of my highsec knife-fighting brethern, I like slapping down the sort of narrow-minded, ******** mouth-breathing idiots that I would like to punch in real life, but can't because :laws: and :morality:. While they exist to some extent everywhere, they are most concentrated in highsec.
In null I can't really harass a particularly punchable target very effectivly.
Anyways, enough derail. I'm sure I'll make a post covering all this in my attention-***** blog at some point. Let's talk instead about the part where we are organizing to punch even the faces that don't deserve punching.
(Also, grief is fun.) |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
281
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Posted - 2012.03.16 22:57:00 -
[52] - Quote
I support this endeavour 100%, goes without saying, but to re-iterate:
Please do leave the 1-day-old newbs (not "n00bs," actual beginners) out of this, if possible.
We were all newbs once, and as I recall, the truly new players don't yet know enough about enough that griefing them would be of any real use (that, plus baiting/griefing in starter-systems can get you banned, as I'm sure you know)...
...But educating/informing these newbs--and then recruiting them, maybe?
That could be much more useful in the mid- and long-term--for everyone who values the sandbox--IMHO.
E: Ah, just read post #36. Good on ya, mate, have a "Like." In irae, veritas. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
281
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Posted - 2012.03.16 23:06:00 -
[53] - Quote
tomd741 wrote:lol griefer tears best tears! MOAR TEARS!!
You're just not getting it, are you?
WoW ----->
In irae, veritas. |
Aradus Gunnell
Tactical Entertainment Network
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 23:26:00 -
[54] - Quote
Big thanks to Monk for posting this. Any player-driven competition is worth it. After all, this is serious business!
TEN EVEning News (http://www.tacticalentertainment.tv) has spoken with Monk, and we're putting up a PLEX for the best 'more tears' audio submission. Once Monk selects the lose...ahem...winner, we'll have him on the podcast to talk about the Crime Spree, the winners, and to play the audio.
TEN EVEning News! www.tacticalentertainment.tv
DUST514 & EVE Online news every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday! |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1105
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Posted - 2012.03.17 01:34:00 -
[55] - Quote
Amun Khonsu wrote:What your entire rant amounts to is that you are too cowardly to leave high sec.
Except he has a long history in nullsec, as do most of our corp and most griefers, gankers, and pirates. After spending about six months among these guys, I find that I'm in the minority as someone who has lived almost entirely in highsec.
This isn't a bunch of no-risk PVPers whining because we're having a harder time shooting stuff on Jita 4-4. We're looking for honest fights. Six months ago we were able to get fights on a regular basis. Back then I had to queue blog posts on a delay because I only wanted to do three updates a week, and we were having FUN engagements more often than that. Today we've withdrawn to w-space to pile up cash, pick what fights we can, and wait for Inferno. My blog hasn't been updated in forever because...what is there to update? Eve got boring.
tomd741 wrote:lol griefer tears best tears! MOAR TEARS!! Did I sound like this when I was a carebear? God I hope not. Every time anyone points out a legitimate problem in Eve some idiot has to show up and crow "_____ tears best tears" because obviously you can't point out flaws without crying about it. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
189
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Posted - 2012.03.17 01:56:00 -
[56] - Quote
Kind of funny how carebears don't even understand what 'tears' are. Its like small children misusing dirty words, because they heard them on television and don't even know what they mean.
Let me explain.... Tears are those sad comments you get in local when you blow up or steal someones property. Sometimes they come in Evemail form, and occasionally in forum posts.
An example of griefer tears would be if I attempted to gank someone and was outwitted and failed miserably. If I started crying about how unfair it is in local, thats griefer tears.
Complaining about (and spreading knowledge of) stealth nerfs? Pretty sure they don't qualify.
If this is some strange new definition of tears I am dealing with.... Petty pathetic that the only tears that Bears will ever taste are the ones fed to them straight from a CCP baby bottle.
I prefer to go out and collect my own, TY.
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Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
26
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Posted - 2012.03.17 02:12:00 -
[57] - Quote
Herr Wilkus wrote:Kind of funny how carebears don't even understand what 'tears' are. Its like small children misusing dirty words, because they heard them on television and don't even know what they mean. Let me explain.... Tears are those sad comments you get in local when you blow up or steal someones property. Sometimes they come in Evemail form, and occasionally in forum posts. An example of griefer tears would be if I attempted to gank someone and was outwitted and failed miserably. If I started crying about how unfair it is in local, thats griefer tears. Complaining about (and spreading knowledge of) stealth nerfs? Pretty sure they don't qualify. If this is some strange new definition of tears I am dealing with.... Petty pathetic that the only tears that Bears will ever taste are the ones fed to them straight from a CCP baby bottle. I prefer to go out and collect my own, TY. Sorry to say, this post is too far above the logic and reading comprehension of those it is directed at. Post with your monkey. |
Moustached Slimy Worm
The Skunkworks
52
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Posted - 2012.03.17 02:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
I am officially returning to Eve to participate in this event |
IsTheOpOver
79
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Posted - 2012.03.17 02:25:00 -
[59] - Quote
Herr Wilkus wrote:Kind of funny how carebears don't even understand what 'tears' are.
I'm pretty sure the misuse of the term apply to more than just carebears.
Looking forward to your tornado tips =)
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tomd741
Insolent Destruction Chaotic Tendencies
5
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Posted - 2012.03.17 03:16:00 -
[60] - Quote
[quote=FloppieTheBanjoClown][quote=Amun Khonsu]This isn't a bunch of no-risk PVPers whining because we're having a harder time shooting stuff on Jita 4-4. We're looking for honest fights.
rofl. yes., cause "honest fights" are getting new players into your corp and ganking them, suiciding miners, killing incursions ppl,griefing, etc. Yeah right |
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Propmod
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.03.17 03:38:00 -
[61] - Quote
I have little sympathy for high sec griefers or anyone else taking high sec seriously, bears included. All I see is people wanting easy targets that dont fight back. The griefers are just another form of carebear. |
Lord Malic
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
0
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:10:00 -
[62] - Quote
as the carebear wrecking machine that i am. i fully support this! CAREBEARS BEWARE... im gonna get you!!! |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
135
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:14:00 -
[63] - Quote
We'll take those, too. Both is good. Most of us prefer fights, but ganks are hilarious. |
Kristopher Arione
No Point of Dispute Point of Dispute
14
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:06:00 -
[64] - Quote
Am I the guy who got reimbursed that you mentioned? because I did get my abaddon reimbursed after I was exploited in the middle of an orca raid. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
136
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:11:00 -
[65] - Quote
Kristopher Arione wrote:Am I the guy who got reimbursed that you mentioned? because I did get my abaddon reimbursed after I was exploited in the middle of an orca raid.
Nah, it was my good friend rareden. |
Kristopher Arione
No Point of Dispute Point of Dispute
14
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:14:00 -
[66] - Quote
the guy from clearly compensating? oh btw I stole a machariel and a CNR from NOPOD. do I get a muffin? |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
136
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:16:00 -
[67] - Quote
Yeah, he used to be with clearly compensating. Grats on the stolen ships. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
283
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Posted - 2012.03.17 10:30:00 -
[68] - Quote
Propmod wrote:I have little sympathy for high sec griefers or anyone else taking high sec seriously, bears included. All I see is people wanting easy targets that dont fight back. The griefers are just another form of carebear.
Fancy that: It's often the bears who are doing just that, not the big, bad "griefers."
Oh, and because player ships urp-splode more pretty than NPC-ships.
In irae, veritas. |
CatreX Nolen
The Syndicate Inc Eternal Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2012.03.17 13:18:00 -
[69] - Quote
good thing I can start using them t2 blasters in 24h. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1325
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Posted - 2012.03.17 14:09:00 -
[70] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:This isn't the thread for that discussion, but I will very briefly cover why I do my favorite work in highsec.
I prefer small gang warfare to huge blobs. I really like it when my individual skill counts for something. What nullsec considers a small gang is twenty dudes and it gets hotdropped by three hundred Drakes. Not really interested.
Additionally, I don't really like the common mass of people. While there are exceptional dudes in most alliances, you have to put up with the hive-mind of mouth-breathing sperglords. I don't want to do that. This dislike may be aggravated by having been in TEST. (love for my TESTies, but about 80% of you I want to choke with my bare hands. Reset TEST.)
Now dec scraping has taken all of the fights out of highsec, so we've been messing about with Wormhole space recently, but we still like to grief, and highsec is our ancestral home.
But now griefing is taking nerf after nerf. So, the thread above.
Feel a rant coming on about how suck the whole jump gate mechanic is. But perhaps the problem goes deeper? Gate blobs appear boring to participate in, but there is no effort by players to clear them, it feels like one "side" of the matter, the people comprising this "great wall of carebear" have more of a financial motivation so the bots on the other side can run un-molested.
This game cries out for some way to break down this wall. These gate to gate jump mechanics have to go. If ships could dial in warps system to system "Star Wars style", the blobs will be replaced by combat patrols and small gang engagements will happen.
That's my derailing .02.
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Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
22
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Posted - 2012.03.18 03:40:00 -
[71] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: edited for length ...
This game cries out for some way to break down this wall. These gate to gate jump mechanics have to go. If ships could dial in warps system to system "Star Wars style", the blobs will be replaced by combat patrols and small gang engagements will happen.
That's my derailing .02.
Now that's one of the coolest ideas I've heard of lately. You should write that one up for the Features and Ideas section.
Nothing clever at this time. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1328
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Posted - 2012.03.18 07:19:00 -
[72] - Quote
Nick Bison wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: edited for length ...
This game cries out for some way to break down this wall. These gate to gate jump mechanics have to go. If ships could dial in warps system to system "Star Wars style", the blobs will be replaced by combat patrols and small gang engagements will happen.
That's my derailing .02.
Now that's one of the coolest ideas I've heard of lately. You should write that one up for the Features and Ideas section.
Tried. Failed. The bloc that benefits from the status quo is presently too powerful.
I am hoping that the goons think it's a good idea. Seriously.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2012.03.18 07:44:00 -
[73] - Quote
If Herzog's suggestion were implemented,Eve would be a much more about fights rather than auto piloting through all those empty systems. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:If we can't have this game, neither can the carebears.
I am putting up all the money I can scratch together to fund a crime spree. You think it was bad when we were shoplifting Slim-Jims? Well now we're going to burn the 7-11 to the ******* ground. The Skunkworks will be flipping tables and stabbing people in broad daylight and we're inviting everyone who operates in highsec in a PvP way to join us. We're not even out for profit or our own amusement. We're out for blood and tears. We want rage quits and people punching monitors. We want each and every griefer, cutthroat, shitheel, mercenary, scammer, spy, thief and puppy-kicker to be stomping through the post-apocalyptic wasteland that used to be highsec, swinging wrecking-ball fists at anything stupid enough to get in our way. So, to make your teary sad story short, a griefer is feeling grief and anguish because he's unable to grief. And I bet it would surprise you to know there's a clinical term for this .
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Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
56
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:39:00 -
[75] - Quote
yawn, another hi sec grief thread. guys can't have fun doing anything else? On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun |
Zubrette
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.03.19 01:34:00 -
[76] - Quote
Too many carebears getting off on the fact that CCP is catering to baddies who only want to run missions. There has to be risk involved, even in highsec, or you're going to get bored pretty quickly.
Whether or not you want to admit it, regardless of how hard CCP marginalizes griefing, it's a legitimate way of playing this game. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1120
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Posted - 2012.03.19 13:24:00 -
[77] - Quote
Propmod wrote:I have little sympathy for high sec griefers or anyone else taking high sec seriously, bears included. All I see is people wanting easy targets that dont fight back. The griefers are just another form of carebear. One of my earliest gang fights--and also one of my favorites--was when we engaged an enemy fleet just outside their POS shield. We got in under their POS guns, wiped all but one of their ships, and got out with no losses.
Not all of us are risk-averse. Some of us just enjoy the mechanics of highsec, where a blob of 40 ships can't ruin all the intel and maneuvering by wiping one or both smaller fleets before a trap is sprung. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.19 14:28:00 -
[78] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:Highsec has been getting safer and safer. Every time one of us thinks up some clever way to visit violence upon carebears, we get nerfed. We keep thinking up more interesting stuff, but it only lasts so long before it gets nerfed.
:: long rant snipped ::
Quote:We're being pushed out of the game.
Love the tears.
The species that survives is not the strongest, but the one most responsive to change. Evolve, or die. |
StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
37
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Posted - 2012.03.19 14:34:00 -
[79] - Quote
All i see is a bunch of text saying people whom want player versus player interaction are running out of ways to force people who do not want player versus player interaction into doin said player versus player activities. In games where pvp results in you just respawning and goin back to w/e this would be fine. But eve is diff, When stuff goes poof its gone. So it doesnt surprise me (and nor should it you) that people do not want to PVP. This is entirely different than most other games.
This is working as ccp intended. And is gettin better every day. Eventually you will have no choice but to play with people looking for the same thing as you. PVP,Explosions and destruction. It just wont be on your terms. Which im willing to bank is why your so adament on gettin the drop on hapless mission runners and the like. You know for sure that mission bears pve navy raven will not hold up to your pvp neut cane. There is no challenge. This is what your looking for. Handouts in the form of people whom unknowingly engage your ninjibis.
Im all for PVP, And enjoy it. But there is aspects of this game that are not solely based on it. I am willing to accept not everyone wants to PVP. Why is it so hard for you to accept this? <--- That was a serious question.
To all who think Eve is a strictly pvp based game, If this wer true there would be no pve aspect. Get over it!
And to the Op,
Why u no want challenge?
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Ash Stewart
The Tenori Tigers Un.Bound
3
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:24:00 -
[80] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:This isn't the thread for that discussion, but I will very briefly cover why I do my favorite work in highsec.
I prefer small gang warfare to huge blobs. I really like it when my individual skill counts for something. What nullsec considers a small gang is twenty dudes and it gets hotdropped by three hundred Drakes. Not really interested.
Additionally, I don't really like the common mass of people. While there are exceptional dudes in most alliances, you have to put up with the hive-mind of mouth-breathing sperglords. I don't want to do that. This dislike may be aggravated by having been in TEST. (love for my TESTies, but about 80% of you I want to choke with my bare hands. Reset TEST.)
Now dec scraping has taken all of the fights out of highsec, so we've been messing about with Wormhole space recently, but we still like to grief, and highsec is our ancestral home.
But now griefing is taking nerf after nerf. So, the thread above.
You clearly have been spending too much time in high sec. There are areas in null sec where you can get decent solo fights and not worry too much about blobs!
Just get out there and find them (hint.... try Great Wildlands).
.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger............... |
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Ash Stewart
The Tenori Tigers Un.Bound
3
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:31:00 -
[81] - Quote
Propmod wrote:I have little sympathy for high sec griefers or anyone else taking high sec seriously, bears included. All I see is people wanting easy targets that dont fight back. The griefers are just another form of carebear.
I've got nothing against griefing, it's just another way to play eve (heck.. even i do it).
Griefing and taking out haulers and miners just makes the game realistic to everyone involved; which is one reason why I love this game (high sec carebears who take exception to this are in the wrong game -- they ought to prepare for it, like in real life).
BUT, I take exception to people trying to grief new players out of the game. Do that TOO MUCH, and you lose your future pvpers.
.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger............... |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
143
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:35:00 -
[82] - Quote
Ash Stewart wrote:
Just get out there and find them (hint.... try Great Wildlands).
It's been my experience that Great Wildlands never has anyone in it. Dozens of systems with nobody home. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:36:00 -
[83] - Quote
WTB:Risk free pvp. |
Ash Stewart
The Tenori Tigers Un.Bound
3
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:45:00 -
[84] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:Ash Stewart wrote:
Just get out there and find them (hint.... try Great Wildlands).
It's been my experience that Great Wildlands never has anyone in it. Dozens of systems with nobody home.
it's like that alot. At leat your blob concerns are dealt with :P
Have a bubble at one of the main entrance ways, and you'll get your targets.
.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger............... |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1122
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:54:00 -
[85] - Quote
Jake Warbird wrote:WTB:Risk free pvp. Read my post from earlier today.
WTB: PVP that can't be rolled over by a roaming blob interupting a good fight.
Also WTB: Fixes to neutral RR and other such nonsense that makes highsec PVP far more stupid than it needs to be. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Korbin Dallaz
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:05:00 -
[86] - Quote
omg. so many tears. so much crying. Would you like CCP to just do the ganking for you and then contract you to loot and mail a copy of the taunting in local? |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:13:00 -
[87] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:WTB:Risk free pvp. Read my post from earlier today. WTB: PVP that can't be rolled over by a roaming blob interupting a good fight. Also WTB: Fixes to neutral RR and other such nonsense that makes highsec PVP far more stupid than it needs to be.
I looked up your earlier posts and I still stand by what I said. While I fully agree that the content of the sandbox has to be directed by the players, you griefing players does very little to touch upon the points which you put forward. I also understand you are not totally risk-averse and this is why you should head to low/null to find fights there.
I agree with you on the fact that pvp is almost always 'a roaming blob' and tbh I really don't have any suggestions how to fix it. But what you are doing now is only going to make CCP turn up the heat even more. CCP needs its new players to stick around for a while.
But thank you for the reply. Usually it's just 'gtfo caerbaer!' , 'HTFU noobz!' , 'poast with your main,*******!' and so on. |
rareden
Privateers Privateer Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:08:00 -
[88] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:WTB:Risk free pvp. Read my post from earlier today. WTB: PVP that can't be rolled over by a roaming blob interupting a good fight. Also WTB: Fixes to neutral RR and other such nonsense that makes highsec PVP far more stupid than it needs to be.
WTB agro timer for logi and if you want to buy risk free pvp jake, go roll in some 20 man blobs killing ratters |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
138
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Posted - 2012.03.19 22:11:00 -
[89] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:WTB:Risk free pvp. Read my post from earlier today. WTB: PVP that can't be rolled over by a roaming blob interupting a good fight. Also WTB: Fixes to neutral RR and other such nonsense that makes highsec PVP far more stupid than it needs to be. In other words, you only think it's unfair when you're on the wrong side of overwhelming forces. But you have no problems in harassing carebear ships with your PVP gank ship, because... that's a "good fight"?
Seriously, griefer tears are the most pathetic of them all. What is up with all the Skunkworks tears lately?
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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
146
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Posted - 2012.03.20 01:02:00 -
[90] - Quote
You seem to be confusing ganks and fights. We want both those things, but ganking mission runners is just that, ganks.
We don't confuse the two, and neither should you.
Our man Slimy Worm, for instance. Great ganker, mediocre fighter. |
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1872
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Posted - 2012.03.20 01:23:00 -
[91] - Quote
OMG NO I HAET UUUUU (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Shadow XII
Black Matte
11
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Posted - 2012.03.20 01:30:00 -
[92] - Quote
tomd741 wrote:[quote=FloppieTheBanjoClown][quote=Amun Khonsu]This isn't a bunch of no-risk PVPers whining because we're having a harder time shooting stuff on Jita 4-4. We're looking for honest fights. rofl. yes., cause "honest fights" are getting new players into your corp and ganking them, suiciding miners, killing incursions ppl,griefing, etc. Yeah right
^. Griefing is not PvP. Griefing is a self-compensation effort made by lonely neckbeards with a superiority complex. The OP post is a testament to this, the rage about one's ability to be a schoolyard bully taken away and the resulting power trip at gathering support and funding for a 'crime spree'.
And don't say you're looking for honest fights. Ever. Honest, fair fights do not exist, from high-sec ganks to 0.0 fleets, fair fights have never and will never exist. At least the OP post has the balls to say "I am a griefer." instead of making up some lunatic self-justification about looking for 'fair fights'. You're not; stop saying it.
That said, I don't agree with griefing being nerfed. I don't like how mercanaries have been forced to shut down, and I don't like how lying, cheating, stealing and murdering has become more and more difficult, because that's just not fair. You can't wave your hand in the real world and just disable crime and dishonesty.
So, have fun. It doesn't affect me either way but that's my two cents - I think you're dickheads and losers but you should be allowed to do be dickheads and losers without the devs stepping in and locking down what you enjoy paying them to do. |
Sai Nunnie
Dagger Brigade Pirate Coalition
3
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Posted - 2012.03.20 01:36:00 -
[93] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:You seem to be confusing ganks and fights. We want both those things, but ganking mission runners is just that, ganks.
We don't confuse the two, and neither should you.
Our man Slimy Worm, for instance. Great ganker, mediocre fighter.
This ^^^, I have recently started ramping up my lifestyle of crime and popped a few in high sec. Moving permanently to low sec very soon. And there is a huge difference between ganks and PVP, I got home from work and decided I wanted to waste a couple Nado's I had laying around (Bad Day at work and hopeing for some tears), so I warped to a few belts found a hulk, and popped the hulk and his pod no ryme or reason.
I could care less about the isk as It was a stress reliever for me, now I will try and go to low sec and kill till I start blinking.....I am a very mediocore PVP'er but I like sploding peeps with my $15 a month.
Ganks are just that ganks, some do it for kicks (Me) some for profit, some meh not sure. High sec has been getting safer and safer and with Dec shield, Neaut RR ect. ect. good, real fights in high sec are far and few between in a game that (On the tin) advertises free game play and most of all PVP. When we try and War dec to get good fights yall run to the dec shield or corp hop and/or neaut RR to death. |
malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
2
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Posted - 2012.03.20 02:21:00 -
[94] - Quote
To me, all the nerf's are not necessary. It is making Hi sec a lazy community. Not having to learn anything about safety in space. This is a bad thing for EVE lovers, but a great thing for WoW refugees.
I think the problems lies in how easy it is to kill Indy's. Not in how they are killed. Not having a chance to get out or fight back is not PVP. Give Indy's a fighting chance to survive. Giving them an abilty to insta warp through a module hi or low slot. this has several effects. it gives them survivability at the cost of profit. They have to work to survive still. and you dont need to nerf everything. The indy pilot has the choice and his choice effects the outcome. If he loses his ship then it was his fault
We have a policy in our corp and I know a lot of corps have it. When we are WD we do not fly indy's. Flying indy's while WD should be punished. Not given the abilty to remove the WD so you can fly them. 1 week of WD is not going to hurt your income. CCP should be making INDY's part of the community. Forcing them to make decisions. not holding their hand.
If i decide to fly my Frieghter with 20 bill worth of goodies. I should be able to be punished for doing it. but also give me the abilty to survive a gank too.
tl:dr give Indy's something to fight bk with |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
146
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Posted - 2012.03.20 03:14:00 -
[95] - Quote
If you want to fight back, I've seen some hilarious Battle Badgers and Battle Itties.
But what you're really asking for is the ability to survive at the expense of cargo space. You have it! An Iteron V has *eight* lowslots. Mashing some tank in there will make you much harder to gank.
Or grab a blockade runner. Those little bastards can be tough! Most suicide gankers, unless they're set up for large targets, won't even bother. Especially if it's got some tank on it. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2012.03.20 04:16:00 -
[96] - Quote
rareden wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:WTB:Risk free pvp. Read my post from earlier today. WTB: PVP that can't be rolled over by a roaming blob interupting a good fight. Also WTB: Fixes to neutral RR and other such nonsense that makes highsec PVP far more stupid than it needs to be. WTB agro timer for logi and if you want to buy risk free pvp jake, go roll in some 20 man blobs killing ratters Sigh,I really don't know what to say to that. You know what I meant right? |
ElCholo
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
80
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Posted - 2012.03.20 04:27:00 -
[97] - Quote
Hey Monk,
I'm glad to see that someone is trying to bring attention to what the roid whores and mission whores have been spreading their legs for to CCP. I say this, because it seems like CCP keeps meeting their demands like they are married to them. Yet, the rest of us are just their bitches on the side, to be bent over and f*cked each chance that they get.
Sincerely, Cholo
PS. I have a free faction battleship ship of your choice (no, not the super rare silly expensive ones, the ones that are around 1B or so) to hand out to the winner of whatever mean action sounds fun and you chose. I'll bug you on your TS Tuesday about it. |
ElCholo
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
80
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Posted - 2012.03.20 04:40:00 -
[98] - Quote
malcovas Henderson wrote: tl:dr give Indy's something to fight bk with
The visual I have here is this, a over the road truck driver is driving along. Say, in Syria, where it's not really safe. What's he going to do to defend himself? Hire mercs to ride convoy with him to defend himself. This is what I see as low sec.
Now, imaging high sec being... oh, let's say Canada. You're driving your rig, and just in case, you have a shotgun for protection (the one high slot on the badger) and a bad guy rolls up (not in a tank, not really feasible in Canada I guess) and he has six buddies with him, all toting sub-machine guns. They shoot out your tires (warp scram?) and want your haul.... nuff said... high sec.
Police are there to help you (concord), however, they aren't going to let you carry a RPG just because they can't be there every minnute to hold your hand. :)
Can you tell I'm on pain killers? lol I like that story. :D |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2012.03.20 04:41:00 -
[99] - Quote
ElCholo wrote:Hey Monk,
I'm glad to see that someone is trying to bring attention to what the roid whores and mission whores have been spreading their legs for to CCP. I say this, because it seems like CCP keeps meeting their demands like they are married to them. Yet, the rest of us are just their bitches on the side, to be bent over and f*cked each chance that they get.
Sincerely, Cholo
PS. I have a free faction battleship ship of your choice (no, not the super rare silly expensive ones, the ones that are around 1B or so) to hand out to the winner of whatever mean action sounds fun and you chose. I'll bug you on your TS Tuesday about it.
Yo dude! I'm real happy for you and mma let you finish... But Goons have one the best hisec interdictions of all time! One the best hisec interdictions of all time! |
ElCholo
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
80
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Posted - 2012.03.20 04:51:00 -
[100] - Quote
Jake Warbird wrote:Yo dude! I'm real happy for you and mma let you finish... But Goons have one the best hisec interdictions of all time! One the best hisec interdictions of all time!
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say... |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2012.03.20 04:53:00 -
[101] - Quote
You don't see Goons posting about how hard it is to do things 'their' way. They just go out and do it. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
146
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Posted - 2012.03.20 05:41:00 -
[102] - Quote
Goons aren't coming up with clever grief. They're using the same old tools of... mostly just suicide ganks.
I mean, they're one of the largest alliances in the game, so they do it to incredible effect, but it's not exactly high-powered Kung Fu they're using to do it.
I would even go so far as to say that they havn't had any really clever grief since Kartoon was running the Jihad.
Believe me, if they were actually coming up with interesting **** and having it slapped down by CCP, the CSM campaigns would have a very different focus.
tl;dr Goons have jumped the shark. |
Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
25
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Posted - 2012.03.20 07:20:00 -
[103] - Quote
It's funny: I don't play any other game but this one because I like the risks. At the same time I'm not in the game to prey on the weak. Complaining about changes that make it harder for you to suicide gank or can flip someone is like... well...
Complaining that someone held you back from beating up a cripple...
The solution, the one that probably won't be implemented because it would take too much work, is to change the mechanics for PVE and PVP so that ships for both activities are fitted the same.
As for small gang PVP: Get into W space. It's null sec without all the bullshit politics. You get to use all the gear with no restrictions, shoot anything that lands on grid without GCC, and there are limits on how much mass can pass through a worm hole (so no blobs). As an extra added bonus you'll actually be shooting at people that have the skills and fitting knowledge to fight back -no more beating up the crippled kids... Just like there is no I in Team there is no Fair in Eve... |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2012.03.20 08:09:00 -
[104] - Quote
Point taken,Monk. |
Sugar Von MurdererTits
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.03.20 13:52:00 -
[105] - Quote
I agree with the OP. As someone who has never pirated, griefed, ganked, scammed or even smack talked in local I think the nerfing of the criminal lifestyle in Eve is getting out of hand. One of the reasons I like Eve is that even in high security space it's not really safe. If CCP continues to make it difficult and unattractive for the scumbags (no offense C&P) to operate all that will be left is the rather sterile and monotonous PVE content. There will be no point in playing any more.
I generally prefer to play games in a friendly, cooperative manner and be nice to other people until they cross me first, but CCP is starting to make me want to go ganking. |
Kynig Parapoyos
The Phylaxis Group
0
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Posted - 2012.03.20 13:54:00 -
[106] - Quote
lol, scumbags donating isk to kill the bears!
You're sure, you still have the donations and that someone hasn't run off with it yet! |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1127
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:04:00 -
[107] - Quote
Dorn Val wrote:As for small gang PVP: Get into W space.
We're living in w-space right now. It's boring, too. I prowl any connecting wormholes we get and sometimes go 2-3 layers deep looking for targets and find very little.
Oh, well. At least I'm making decent money without having to put up with incursioners. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:16:00 -
[108] - Quote
Quote:Highsec has been getting safer and safer. Every time one of us thinks up some clever way to visit violence upon carebears, we get nerfed. We keep thinking up more interesting stuff, but it only lasts so long before it gets nerfed.
That tends to happen when you exploit game mechanics. D'oh! o\ |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1332
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:24:00 -
[109] - Quote
Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:I agree with the OP. As someone who has never pirated, griefed, ganked, scammed or even smack talked in local I think the nerfing of the criminal lifestyle in Eve is getting out of hand. One of the reasons I like Eve is that even in high security space it's not really safe. If CCP continues to make it difficult and unattractive for the scumbags (no offense C&P) to operate all that will be left is the rather sterile and monotonous PVE content. There will be no point in playing any more.
I generally prefer to play games in a friendly, cooperative manner and be nice to other people until they cross me first, but CCP is starting to make me want to go ganking.
Your name is probably one of the best I have ever seen.
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Andrea Griffin
186
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:30:00 -
[110] - Quote
You know those people who go "BAW!" all over local and the forums, and we ask for their stuff before they go? Yeah, they never give their stuff away. Selfish bastards! So to compensate for this horrible crime against humanity, I will provide a hauler full of Stuff (tm). I'll contract this to the producer of the Best Tears at the end of the competition, as judged by Psychotic Monk.
Normally I provide this prize during Hulkageddon, but since Helicity bailed on us I still have my Stuff (tm). This competition seems like the proper place to put it to good use.
Mr. Monk, please feel free to toss me an EveMail when the competition is over and I'll contract the Stuff (tm) to the winner. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1132
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:51:00 -
[111] - Quote
Ever notice how when it's yours it's "stuff" but when it's someone else's, it's "sh*t"?
-Carlin It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Andrea Griffin
186
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Posted - 2012.03.20 17:57:00 -
[112] - Quote
Hey now, don't dis my Stuff (tm)! It's usually worth between 100-150m or so. : > CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1874
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Posted - 2012.03.20 18:01:00 -
[113] - Quote
Andrea Griffin wrote:You know those people who go "BAW!" all over local and the forums, and we ask for their stuff before they go? Yeah, they never give their stuff away. Selfish bastards!
On the contrary someone made a ragequit thread and I chatted to him in-game and he gave me about 2.5b ISK and contracted me some shiny ships too.
Zedrik Cayne did the same when he quit but the bugger came back and I gave him most of it back
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Judeau Antara
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:24:00 -
[114] - Quote
Although I don't support the idea of snuffing out piracy (I absolutely love the fact that there is the risk of pirates anywhere in EVE) I do find it hilarious that this thread is filled with pirate tears. Griefers crying about not being able to grief enough
Either way, here is to hoping they don't carebear up the game too much. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
163
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Posted - 2012.03.20 21:40:00 -
[115] - Quote
Updated the OP to reflect some of the donations! Go check it out! |
Andrea Griffin
187
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Posted - 2012.03.21 00:14:00 -
[116] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:On the contrary someone made a ragequit thread and I chatted to him in-game and he gave me about 2.5b ISK and contracted me some shiny ships too. Zedrik Cayne did the same when he quit but the bugger came back and I gave him most of it back I'm totally jealous. I would have given Zed his stuff back too though. He's exceptionally entertaining! CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
41
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Posted - 2012.03.21 01:59:00 -
[117] - Quote
Such whiners!
Beginning with the OP - whine this, whine that - woe is us - CCP is so against us!
TIme to lay face down - kick and scream.
You guys are hopeless... No wonder I couldn't stand being around so many whiners... why I waited so long to put your sarry asses in my rear view mirror, I'll never know. Somehow, I kept thinking the average IQ would get above idiot and when I left, I know I set it way back toward zero.
You guys are jokes |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
40
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Posted - 2012.03.21 02:16:00 -
[118] - Quote
JusFooling Around wrote:Such whiners!
Beginning with the OP - whine this, whine that - woe is us - CCP is so against us!
TIme to lay face down - kick and scream. "I got ganked again, NERF THEM!!" = whine "I got nerfed again, GANK THEM!!" = not whine Learn the difference. Post with your monkey. |
JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
41
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Posted - 2012.03.21 03:36:00 -
[119] - Quote
After a few years in a Goon corp, I know your silly games; so I don't need a new idiot trying to explain it to me.
Whining is whining - but somehow you think no one from null can ever whine, when all you do is whine.
You are useless and just don't know it yet
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
219
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Posted - 2012.03.21 05:51:00 -
[120] - Quote
Eh, I suppose its predictable that CCP would leap to the carebears' defense yet again. If simply warping out after a gank is considered an exploit, what's next? Multiple volleys aside, realistically, its a sound strategy to avoid having your 'blue' wreck looted by strangers - or your -10 alt podded - especially now that you are prohibited from ejecting and making a quick escape from the crime scene before the explosion.
But CCP will do what it does best, suck up to the whining carebear population at our expense. I'll wait and see what happens, but it appears they have planted their flag long ago, and complaining about it is pointless.
But, no, I'm not going to quit.
Instead, I'll take a page from Patton.... ....I will simply refocus my efforts and resources into making OTHER people quit. Its the only way. Hit CCP where it hurts: subscriptions. How?
-No more expending energy targeting or reporting/petitioning obvious mining bots. While smashing and reporting them is entertaining (and for now, profitable) - they do FAR more damage to your typical miner's income than I ever could. They give no tears, they will not stop - they just autodock until the Russian RMT puppetmaster resets their macro. Let them breed and depress the income of the 'real' miners.
-Exclusively target the vulnerable. Not day old noobs, fool, they don't even OWN anything. Fresh young miners, 2-3 months old. Sitting in their first Exhumer that they toiled for days or weeks to buy. Read the bios, read the employment history. They are just as easy to identify as the botting fleets.
-Make it PERSONAL. Use a random scouting "ratting" alt, chat with them, find out a little about them. Ask questions about mining, "Wow, how long did it take to buy your Hulk? How much ISK u make?" While in mid conversation, proceed to the next step....
-Gank them, addressbook them, locate them, and gank them again. Again, personalize the conflict. Make them feel they have no way out. Keep them in your addressbook. You'll notice that many of them eventually become discouraged and quit the game. You'll know - when their smiling faces forever cease being lit up in your addressbook.
-Remember, the key is depth, not breadth. Rather than ganking every miner in the belt ONCE, leave the bots and gank a lucky few repeatedly over a longer period of time. Spreading your efforts amonst hundreds of targets makes for an impressive killboard, but if you want to cost CCP subscriptions - you have to pick your targets and diligently insure that their Eve experience is one of loss and futility.
Seems the TEARS Alliance "repeat-customer" ganking board and associated bounty prizes will be undergoing some revision...soon. |
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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
163
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Posted - 2012.03.21 07:33:00 -
[121] - Quote
Wilkus apparently lives inside my head. This is exactly the sort of thing Crime Spree is trying to promote.
Maybe I quit eventually. But I'm definatly going to make sure I make a bunch more people quit before I do. |
Joyelle
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.21 14:23:00 -
[122] - Quote
I don't really know how to put all of this so that it sticks but all of the mechanisms/exploits CCP shafted didn't have much risk to it, if they had any at all. Take for instance, the mechanism you guys used against incursion runners. It basically had a 100% success rate in highsec (I remember the forum posts stating how you guys had pretty much won eve) and then you go on complaining about no "fair fights". I'm sure you can clearly see the irony. I also don't get why you'd complain about CCP's taking away ship insurance of suicided ships when you weren't ganking ships that wouldn't prossibly drop 5 times or more the value of your throw away ship. I remember a couple of other exploits/lame mechanisms such as station games and the orca ship swapping technique that nearly had a 100% success rate. The instant joining of corps and immediately getting aggro was also another one of those funny/lame techniques that worked 99.9% in favour of the wardeccers because you could easily size up your targets and counter with a better attacking force all the time (iirc, that still works atm...I'm not too sure though). I do recall an incident that occured in jita, where this mechanism backfired and the corp lost a decent amount of vindis. If you were really looking for "fair fights" you could have simply joined RvB or get it through your skulls that EvE is all about risk, but It's understandable, the amusement one derives by fooling someone with a mechanic they have no idea about... the tears harvested and rewards can be sort of gratifying.
Herr Wilkus wrote: Instead, I'll take a page from Patton.... ....I will simply refocus my efforts and resources into making OTHER people quit. Its the only way. Hit CCP where it hurts: subscriptions.
Seems the TEARS Alliance "repeat-customer" ganking board and associated bounty prizes will be undergoing some revision...soon.
Good grief, this made me lol but it actually sounds like a good idea. I wonder what would happen if PL did this in reaction to the titan nerf but wait...they obviously won't go that far because it's what an "ass hole" would result to in other to get his point across. |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.21 16:25:00 -
[123] - Quote
Herr Wilkus wrote: Instead, I'll take a page from Patton.... ....I will simply refocus my efforts and resources into making OTHER people quit. Its the only way. Hit CCP where it hurts: subscriptions.
Wow.
The self-defeating stupidity of this is jaw-dropping. Allow me to paraphrase a bit for you:
"I'm angry at what CCP is doing, therefore I will do everything in my power to make myself an active threat to CCP's revenue stream, thus holding them hostage to my desires."
Hostage-taking only works when you've got actual hostages. CCP can: 1) Ignore you (you are a very small flea in a rather large sandbox). <- Most likely event 2) Ban you. 3) Change game mechanics to make you ineffectual. 4) Some combination of the above.
You can: 1) Scream in impotent rage. 2) Throw temper tantrums. 3) Hassle a relatively small number of hapless and innocent folks whom have no part of your anger, and couldn't do a thing about it even if they did. 4) Quit. 5) Get over it. 6) Some combination of the above.
So tell me - Who has the whip hand here?
The Jita Riots barely managed to make CCP budge. Can you manage to muster that kind of influence..? Nope. And we all know it. You can't get remotely remotely close to that level of action. So - what are your chances of changing anything? Zero. Zip. Nada. Zilch.
All you're doing is pitching a fit - in public. Where everyone can see how powerless you truly are. |
Rystan Wildstar
Deep Core Mineral Extraction
0
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Posted - 2012.03.21 17:16:00 -
[124] - Quote
I've seen this movie before. The plot has game devs changing game mechanics due to real life nobodies trying to force their will on other game players. This leads to the nobodies trying even harder to make others quit. This leads to the game devs making a sequel called Trammel. Keep it up and that's what will happen. I think we all can agree we do not want to see that sequel. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Carpe Vitam
71
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Posted - 2012.03.21 17:30:00 -
[125] - Quote
Rystan Wildstar wrote:This leads to the game devs making a sequel called Trammel.
While the rest of your comment calls me a "nobody", I laughed at this reference. I was there. |
DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
87
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Posted - 2012.03.21 17:52:00 -
[126] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:Suicide ganks
Most pods ganked GÇô 1b Most damaging smartbomb suicide gank GÇô 250m Most exhumers ganked GÇô 1b (me) and a Pirate Faction Battleship of your choice (donated by ElCholo of Burn Eden) GÇ£I hope you updated itGÇ¥ Most expensive two pods owned by the same pilot killed on the same day GÇô 250m Most ganks in a noob system GÇô 100m Most expensive Incursion ship killed - 1 PLEX (donated by roboto212) The longest chain of Exhumer kills with a Single Tornado - 500m offered by Herr Wilkus (slight chance of ban involved)
Safaris
Every green-on-green kill over 200m gets an entry to win 500m Every green-on-greed kill over 50m by a character with less than 250,000 sp gets an entry to win 250m Most unique pilots killed by getting the victim into a fake corp for the purpose of killing them. Characters must be older than three weeks to count. - 250m
Tears
Best tears (screenshot or voice recording) GÇô double the isk value of the associated kill, up to 500m. I will hand out this prize multiple times if there's good tears on cheap kills, up to 500m total. Also. a hauler full of Stuff (tm), offered by Andrea Griffin Best tears (voice recording) - A PLEX - Donated by TEN EVEning News
Misc-
Most strategic cruisers killed by any method in highsec GÇô a strategic cruiser of your choice. Most expensive Jump Freighter killed in highsec by any method GÇô a wardec against the sov-holding entity of your choice by Privateers.
Additionally, I will be handing out free suicide destroyers throughout the event.
It will run from 0000 eve time on Friday the 23rd to 0000 eve time on Friday April 6th.
If anyone wants to donate prizes or offer help or suggestions convo me or join the channel GÇ£Crime SpreeGÇ¥
You should call it GankAgheddon since Hulkgeddon has fizzled out this year with the dissappearance of its founder & you'll get more press from ISD like you did from Amzi |
Miss Congenialty
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.21 18:07:00 -
[127] - Quote
Kudos to post 121 from Joyelle and post 122 from Subdolus Venator! I wish I had posted exactly what you both said as it is my precise take on these children.
Reading thru their drivel reminds me of a corp chat not long ago when four noobs just up and decided they were going on a roam. Three were about 10 days old and their intrepid leader was nearly a month old! They had about 12 hisec systems to traverse before venturing into the losec system of their choice and all along the way they were nervously giggling about kicking ass, and how their "fleet" was "gonna rule" and "bring smoke".
Well, they were not my proteges and they used their option to not follow advice from someone other than their corp assigned mentor, so I sent their mentor a message with a heads up about four butthurts to come back dragging ass after a total failure outing and becoming sadly disheartened - then I sat back and enjoyed the chat traffic as they took all their hopes of making great things happen, only to find out they were just a few pebbles fighting against the downhill face of a glacier.
To get a good idea of how they sounded on the way out - just go back and read the richard swinging E-PEEN bravado in so many of the posts in this thread.
Hey dinosaurs! CCP wants to make money and they have the statistics to show where it comes from and what the contributors to that revenue stream want in a game and it is not you or what you do to other players any more.
If you truly want "fair fights", which is a total lie anyway, go dec another corp that is looking for "fair fights". Oh, that's right, you know there aren't any corps like that. The fair fight you are looking for IS ganking that 2-3 month old player in his first exhumer. Fair to you is when no one can shoot back and you can time your exit before getting concorded - and even if you don't get out in time, what's another rifter or thrasher? You will just take your alt on some hisec incursions to bankroll your next gank and come even closer to finding out what you will eventually realize as soon as you get over your testosterone and come to grips with knowing that, hey these incursions are not so bad and it's a lot more fun being with players who run them than the jerks you go aganking with.
Or not, and you will find another game built for letting internet bullies chase away new subs but has not realized as yet which side of the bread has the butter.
I haven't taken the time to count how many have signed on to this race into oblivion - the OP, who hasn't done anything in my 8 years of playing to rise to where I might even recognize him, does not seem to be anyone who can stir up a following any larger than a few other lame brain knuckle draggers. When I just slide thru the very few pages, it seems the faces are repeated many times on each page. Ppl like me, it seems at least, come in to point and laugh then go away, while the "hardcore" (oh, grrr) keep parsing the posts of the passersby and making stupid comments about the out of context words they have quoted - but that is so typical of how losing causes work on these forums. I know they will leap to point out the obvious inconsistency of my 8 years of playing (started in Dec 2003, so ok... 8 years and 3 months) and the birthday of this puny alt. Of course this is an alt I bought to do manufacturing! OH NOES - is this one of the unfair game mechanics of which they complain? Allowing those who do not want to invite unwanted ganks and fruitless war decs by posting their opinions freely with an undercover brother alt?
As some other earlier poster said so well - you are obsolete, but just don't know it yet... or something like that - sorry for mangling your fine words and being too lazy to quote you properly.
Oh wait, I think I hear players approaching who have not yet recognized their lack of efficacy - they always overcome any lame attempts at stealth with those obnoxious (and like themselves) out-dated Beavis and Butthead snorts and giggles....
Take it away, Junior Brains! |
DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
87
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 18:24:00 -
[128] - Quote
Vangelios wrote:[quote=Psychotic Monk]...Well now we're going to burn the 7-11 to the ******* ground... We're not even out for profit or our own amusement. We're out for blood and tears. We want rage quits and people punching monitors....[/quote Oh dude, you need to relax, go outside, watch a sunset or two, stargaze and take a little brake from EVE, rethink why you are wasting your energy and time on this game... and above all, think about your life...otherwise only one that will rage quit is you... ps There is no shame in visiting psychologist if things get out of control
I suggest he just go take long walks outside especially after the rain & look for a DOUBLE RAINBOW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu49zfbG8fY&feature=related THEN everything will be all right... if not he can always take a long walk on a short pier |
DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
87
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 18:40:00 -
[129] - Quote
Dorn Val wrote: As an extra added bonus you'll actually be shooting at people that have the skills and fitting knowledge to fight back -no more beating up the crippled kids...
These guys can't get it up without beating up on noobs & Cripples they've never understood why thier fathers told them they should never hit girls so they take out thier frustrations in this game. Hopefully they let it out here & not in RL In the end its a game & i they don't play according to the rules they'll get a time out by mommy or daddy will send them to bed without supper unless he gets REALLY mad & smacks them in the behind with the ban belt I'm curious what the next exploit they'll find TBH I bet they are smacking themselves in the head for not trying Garmons triple web exploight ( ooops that was in null sec & they're to scared to go there without the night light on ) |
Vascorp T'Kith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 18:41:00 -
[130] - Quote
Rystan Wildstar wrote:I've seen this movie before. The plot has game devs changing game mechanics due to real life nobodies trying to force their will on other game players. This leads to the nobodies trying even harder to make others quit. This leads to the game devs making a sequel called Trammel. Keep it up and that's what will happen. I think we all can agree we do not want to see that sequel.
The problem here is balance. The level of ganking is out of balance with how much ganking should be done. What happens when a crime spree actually happens in real life? The law enforcement catches on and takes steps to prevent it. It is just how the system is supposed to work. Lets take a look at a real life example of how this mechanic works. In this instance we will look at the Somali pirates boarding boats in the Suez Canal. Those pirates have been active for YEARS and have successfully "pirated" many vessels. Well, at one point they stepped up their game and started pirating too many ships. They eventually caught they eye of the military (Concord) and they took steps to prevent it from happening. The ship captains that run the oil transports have nil defenses (they have some shield extenders, invul fields, etc.) but no firepower to really assault the pirates. Nor would the military let these oil transports have sufficient firepower to make a firm stand (ship limitations, necessity of mining lasers, etc).
See what I did there? Yes, it's lame, I know but it still makes some sense right? The grand point is yes, the world needs piracy, yes, we need danger. However, when you disproportionally target one group of people it starts to look less like "ganking" and more like ethnic cleansing. This action will inevitably draw A LOT of unwanted attention to your operations. Also, some of the previous comments have sounded exactly like this kind of behavior, "Kill them all so that they don't sign in anymore!" Is this really in the interest of EVE? |
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Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 18:53:00 -
[131] - Quote
Vascorp T'Kith wrote: Also, some of the previous comments have sounded exactly like this kind of behavior, "Kill them all so that they don't sign in anymore!" Is this really in the interest of EVE? Alas, the OP and his ilk have no interest in the future of EVE - only in the future of their own entertainment. The two are NOT necessarily congruent, though that concept has not yet occurred to them.
Deductive reasoning and analysis do not seem to be their strong suits.
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Miss Congenialty
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.21 19:01:00 -
[132] - Quote
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Rystan Wildstar wrote:This leads to the game devs making a sequel called Trammel. While the rest of your comment calls me a "nobody", I laughed at this reference. I was there.
So, how did your plan work for you?
Did you learn anything from your first hand experience?
If you are bent on the same course of action, expecting a different outcome - then you did not learn anything, except maybe how to fail a different way.
But go ahead. Lay that thumb on the anvil and slam the hammer down on it again and keep telling yourself, " I just know it won't hurt this time!" But it does...
Lunacy is doing the same thing over and over again and always expecting a different outcome.
Now, go ahead and line up that thumb one more time... |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
163
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 19:07:00 -
[133] - Quote
Subdolus Venator wrote:Vascorp T'Kith wrote: Also, some of the previous comments have sounded exactly like this kind of behavior, "Kill them all so that they don't sign in anymore!" Is this really in the interest of EVE? Alas, the OP and his ilk have no interest in the future of EVE - only in the future of their own entertainment. The two are NOT necessarily congruent, though that concept has not yet occurred to them. Deductive reasoning and analysis do not seem to be their strong suits.
Believe me, the concept has occured to us. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Carpe Vitam
71
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 19:29:00 -
[134] - Quote
Miss Congenialty wrote:Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Rystan Wildstar wrote:This leads to the game devs making a sequel called Trammel. While the rest of your comment calls me a "nobody", I laughed at this reference. I was there. So, how did your plan work for you? Did you learn anything from your first hand experience? If you are bent on the same course of action, expecting a different outcome - then you did not learn anything, except maybe how to fail a different way. But go ahead. Lay that thumb on the anvil and slam the hammer down on it again and keep telling yourself, " I just know it won't hurt this time!" But it does... Lunacy is doing the same thing over and over again and always expecting a different outcome. Now, go ahead and line up that thumb one more time...
Actually, at the time I was a total carebear for that environment and didn't understand a thing about PVP. It got worse when they introduced "insurance" which would magically cause all of your stuff to reappear with you later and leave nothing to be looted.
I support being able to gank someone because they were dumb enough to carry Plex in their untanked hauler. I support being able to kill someone because they're an idiot or not recognizing the risks around them in EVE. I support being able to die in a fire because I was the idiot. And yeah, I like the tears.
I'm not a ganker/carebear hunter/"really mean person" because I want people to quit (though, I'm not going to lie the "YOU MADE ME QUIT EVE" mails followed by them logging on the next day are hilarious), but I do it because I have fun and people are theoretically LEARNING that there is more freedom to die in this game than there is in most MMOs. Supposedly people learn from these situations and from the misfortune of others.
But what do I know, I'm just a nobody. |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 19:31:00 -
[135] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote:Vascorp T'Kith wrote: Also, some of the previous comments have sounded exactly like this kind of behavior, "Kill them all so that they don't sign in anymore!" Is this really in the interest of EVE? Alas, the OP and his ilk have no interest in the future of EVE - only in the future of their own entertainment. The two are NOT necessarily congruent, though that concept has not yet occurred to them. Deductive reasoning and analysis do not seem to be their strong suits. Believe me, the concept has occured to us. Perhaps. But if so, it appears you simply do not care about the longer-term conesquences of success, should you through some miracle achieve your goals, and nothing you've said so far generates any respect for your position in me.
The Bad Fact is this: Games change. That is one of the verry few indisputable constants.
Evolve, or die. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
163
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 19:54:00 -
[136] - Quote
Subdolus Venator wrote: Perhaps. But if so, it appears you simply do not care about the longer-term conesquences of success, should you through some miracle achieve your goals, and nothing you've said so far generates any respect for your position in me.
The Bad Fact is this: Games change. That is one of the verry few indisputable constants.
Evolve, or die.
You're right. I don't care. And I don't care if you respect me or my position. You're exactly the sort of person I want to ruin this game for, in fact.
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Miss Congenialty
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 19:57:00 -
[137] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote:Vascorp T'Kith wrote: Also, some of the previous comments have sounded exactly like this kind of behavior, "Kill them all so that they don't sign in anymore!" Is this really in the interest of EVE? Alas, the OP and his ilk have no interest in the future of EVE - only in the future of their own entertainment. The two are NOT necessarily congruent, though that concept has not yet occurred to them. Deductive reasoning and analysis do not seem to be their strong suits. Believe me, the concept has occured to us.
Oh my!
He has such depth! It has occurred to them, and yet they plod on to certain failure.
Should we hold them in the same light as Texans have held the last contingent at the Battle of the Alamo?
Are they to be revered as the small contingent holding out to serve a higher purpose which will inspire a generation to rise up and join their cause against the evil powers bent on being mean to them.
Are they to be seen as the underdogs of the Battle of Thermopylae
Are they on par with a small fighting element in one village standing up against the might of Ghengis Khan's Mongol Horde?
Are they to held to the same standard of demonstrated bravery as the Aztecs when their very well trained faced off to lose their culture to the better equipped Spaniards?
Actually, I see them more as a few kids outside of the 7/11 plotting on how they are going to run in and strike lightening fast to grab some candy and run out just as fast. Sure, it might work against some fat attendants, but eventually, they will hit the door for a quick exit just as the beat cop is going in for a donut after the police have gotten so many calls about nuisances doing snatch and runs that the police have been diverted to doing more frequent checks on targetted vendors.
They did call it a crime spree, but it looks like it will be a crime fizzle.
Line those thumbs up... |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
163
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 20:02:00 -
[138] - Quote
/shrug |
Miss Congenialty
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 20:04:00 -
[139] - Quote
Tah'ris Khlador - thank you for your reply. I apologize to you as I gave you the same broad brush technique as I did to those who profess failure at any cost.
It seems you and I share more similarities of opinion than I was smart enough to glean from your post.
Good luck in the game! |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 20:06:00 -
[140] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote: Perhaps. But if so, it appears you simply do not care about the longer-term conesquences of success, should you through some miracle achieve your goals, and nothing you've said so far generates any respect for your position in me.
The Bad Fact is this: Games change. That is one of the verry few indisputable constants.
Evolve, or die.
You're right. I don't care. And I don't care if you respect me or my position. You're exactly the sort of person I want to ruin this game for, in fact. Heh. Then I win. |
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Vascorp T'Kith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 20:08:00 -
[141] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote: Perhaps. But if so, it appears you simply do not care about the longer-term conesquences of success, should you through some miracle achieve your goals, and nothing you've said so far generates any respect for your position in me.
The Bad Fact is this: Games change. That is one of the verry few indisputable constants.
Evolve, or die.
You're right. I don't care. And I don't care if you respect me or my position. You're exactly the sort of person I want to ruin this game for, in fact.
And what happens when your position/opinion changes? You going to burn the world down for the next guy? and the next? and the next? What happens when the whole world is nothing but ashes? A sad little king with nothing to hear you scream about how there is nothing to scream about. Its a cycle man, don't you see that? Us carebears are not exempt from this same concept. I play eve because its fun and it has more risk factors than other mmos on the market. I do not want to see this game become WOW. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
163
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 20:10:00 -
[142] - Quote
Vascorp T'Kith wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote: Perhaps. But if so, it appears you simply do not care about the longer-term conesquences of success, should you through some miracle achieve your goals, and nothing you've said so far generates any respect for your position in me.
The Bad Fact is this: Games change. That is one of the verry few indisputable constants.
Evolve, or die.
You're right. I don't care. And I don't care if you respect me or my position. You're exactly the sort of person I want to ruin this game for, in fact. And what happens when your position/opinion changes? You going to burn the world down for the next guy? and the next? and the next? What happens when the whole world is nothing but ashes? A sad little king with nothing to hear you scream about how there is nothing to scream about. Its a cycle man, don't you see that? Us carebears are not exempt from this same concept. I play eve because its fun and it has more risk factors than other mmos on the market. I do not want to see this game become WOW.
*shrug* |
DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
88
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 21:11:00 -
[143] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:/shrug
You shrug too much fix your posture & I'll give you a cookie Turn that frown upside down! Don't worry Double rainbow guy still luvs you |
DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
88
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 21:12:00 -
[144] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:/shrug You shrug too much fix your posture & I'll give you a cookie Turn that frown upside down! Don't worry Double rainbow guy still luvs you
o\ Hmm actually looking at your toon then mine it looks like you are smiling & I'm frowning |
Miss Congenialty
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 21:51:00 -
[145] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:Apolleneous wrote:[quote=rareden][quote=Apolleneous]I fail to see the point here, as you are complaining about "PvP" in high-sec, take yourself to low or null and get all you want brah simple, lots of luck with your propaganda though . In null I can't really harass a particularly punchable target very effectivly. (Also, grief is fun.)
I like your admission that you are useless when faced with armed opponents on equal ground. And don't try to play your silly games with me about how difficult it is to get to those targets you would like to punch. I have way too much time in a large null alliance to be fed bullcrap about that.
I'm trying to squeeze what you meant out of what you wrote, but you aren't much help. "a particularly punchable target" is one that could be reached easily (not just "punch able" but "particularly punch able") and the rest of your phrase leads me to believe you feel you are inept at being able to strike an easily available target. This use of language goes against your penchant for smacktalking. Had you said "a particularly desirable target for a punch" then I would think the target is one you really want to strike, but it has some form of defense with a degree of difficulty beyond your minor talents.
Words are tools, just as armaments and tactics are tools of combat, words are tools of communication. Leaders must be highly effective with both sets of tools, even though poor leaders may pass it off by saying, "I let my sword do my talking", your sword has only one thing to say, while leaders, real leaders must say a lot more in ways which can be understood and in ways which will motivate others to follow them. By your own admission, your sword has a small vocabulary and by observation, you are not faring much better.
I do like how you have claimed the white flag of surrender by failing to counter, or even attempt to counter, logical inadequacies in your plan. Actually, your "shrugs" say a lot about your willingness to surrender to superior logic.
Now go ahead and founder around ganking the unwilling, the untrained, the unequipped and call it a great success.
If you do manage to set up a KB (though I doubt you will want to display the unaggragated data) - make it one with meaning where it has minus points for wheelchair kills, cow tipping, and stealing candy from unattended babies. To make it mean something, killing an equally trained and equipped opponent should carry the lowest positive award just above all the minus point kills, and gradually up the points as greater skill has to be employed to vanquish victims who held an advantage over you, but because of your superior skill alone, you were victorius.
If you say a lesser equipped warrior cannot defeat a better equipped warrior, then you are doing it wrong.
Stop taking pride in tripping grandma, or loosening the spokes on someone's wheelchair. Stand up and be valiant - fight the ones who think they are invincible, instead of the ones who know they will die, but face you anyway - for those you killed in those circumstances displayed far more courage in defeat than you in what you will want to call a "victory". (Hence why I do not believe you will want to show what actually comprised the ships in the total you will undoubtedly be proud of).
I laugh at most KBs as they are a list of slaughtered heroes gone down to prop up the sagging pride of cowards who don't have the courage to face a possible defeat, instead seeking the weakest target to ensure a weak victory which will not extinquish that fire in the belly to finally fight the good fight against a credible foe and even take a loss with dignity. The dignity of those you slaughter and mock as carebears takes as much courage and skill as a sheep displays when it eats a blade of grass and will never satisfy that need a true chanpion has in order to feel a real victory. It will however, be quite satisfactory for the cowards who just brought their bullying desires away from RL where they are most likely the "carebears" and into the sterile anonymous internet world where your scary avatar let's you be that avatar while you are online and strike a blow against the weak, and become the bully who has never let you get to school with your lunch money. Yes, here - you have POWER!!!
There, there... for those of you who are about to post highly critical evaluations such as, "WTF r u takking abut" Just go get your sister to explain it to you. If you are the sister, then print it out and - now here is where you must display courage... show it to one of the kids you have been bullying out of their lunch money, and they will explain it to you.
Bye - Time for my corp fleet to do battle with yet another superior force. |
Astroniomix
EliteTroll
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.21 22:15:00 -
[146] - Quote
Miss Congenialty wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:Apolleneous wrote:[quote=rareden][quote=Apolleneous]I fail to see the point here, as you are complaining about "PvP" in high-sec, take yourself to low or null and get all you want brah simple, lots of luck with your propaganda though . In null I can't really harass a particularly punchable target very effectivly. (Also, grief is fun.) I like your admission that you are useless when faced with armed opponents on equal ground. And don't try to play your silly games with me about how difficult it is to get to those targets you would like to punch. I have way too much time in a large null alliance to be fed bullcrap about that. I'm trying to squeeze what you meant out of what you wrote, but you aren't much help. "a particularly punchable target" is one that could be reached easily (not just "punch able" but "particularly punch able") and the rest of your phrase leads me to believe you feel you are inept at being able to strike an easily available target. This use of language goes against your penchant for smacktalking. Had you said "a particularly desirable target for a punch" then I would think the target is one you really want to strike, but it has some form of defense with a degree of difficulty beyond your minor talents. Words are tools, just as armaments and tactics are tools of combat, words are tools of communication. Leaders must be highly effective with both sets of tools, even though poor leaders may pass it off by saying, "I let my sword do my talking", your sword has only one thing to say, while leaders, real leaders must say a lot more in ways which can be understood and in ways which will motivate others to follow them. By your own admission, your sword has a small vocabulary and by observation, you are not faring much better. I do like how you have claimed the white flag of surrender by failing to counter, or even attempt to counter, logical inadequacies in your plan. Actually, your "shrugs" say a lot about your willingness to surrender to superior logic. Now go ahead and founder around ganking the unwilling, the untrained, the unequipped and call it a great success. If you do manage to set up a KB (though I doubt you will want to display the unaggragated data) - make it one with meaning where it has minus points for wheelchair kills, cow tipping, and stealing candy from unattended babies. To make it mean something, killing an equally trained and equipped opponent should carry the lowest positive award just above all the minus point kills, and gradually up the points as greater skill has to be employed to vanquish victims who held an advantage over you, but because of your superior skill alone, you were victorius. If you say a lesser equipped warrior cannot defeat a better equipped warrior, then you are doing it wrong. Stop taking pride in tripping grandma, or loosening the spokes on someone's wheelchair. Stand up and be valiant - fight the ones who think they are invincible, instead of the ones who know they will die, but face you anyway - for those you killed in those circumstances displayed far more courage in defeat than you in what you will want to call a "victory". (Hence why I do not believe you will want to show what actually comprised the ships in the total you will undoubtedly be proud of). I laugh at most KBs as they are a list of slaughtered heroes gone down to prop up the sagging pride of cowards who don't have the courage to face a possible defeat, instead seeking the weakest target to ensure a weak victory which will not extinquish that fire in the belly to finally fight the good fight against a credible foe and even take a loss with dignity. Those you slaughter and mock as carebears takes as much courage and skill from you as a sheep displays when it eats a blade of grass and will never satisfy that need a true chanpion has in order to feel a real victory. It will however, be quite satisfactory for the cowards who just brought their bullying desires away from RL where they are most likely the "carebears" and into the sterile anonymous internet world where your scary avatar let's you be that avatar while you are online and strike a blow against the weak, and become the bully who has never let you get to school with your lunch money. Yes, here - you have POWER!!! There, there... for those of you who are about to post highly critical evaluations such as, "WTF r u takking abut" Just go get your sister to explain it to you. If you are the sister, then print it out and - now here is where you must display courage... show it to one of the kids you have been bullying out of their lunch money, and they will explain it to you. Bye - Time for my corp fleet to do battle with yet another superior force. Holy wall of text Batman.
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God's Apples
Space Boats 'N Hoes
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.22 00:58:00 -
[147] - Quote
Miss Congenialty wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:Apolleneous wrote:[quote=rareden][quote=Apolleneous]I fail to see the point here, as you are complaining about "PvP" in high-sec, take yourself to low or null and get all you want brah simple, lots of luck with your propaganda though . In null I can't really harass a particularly punchable target very effectivly. (Also, grief is fun.) I like your admission that you are useless when faced with armed opponents on equal ground. And don't try to play your silly games with me about how difficult it is to get to those targets you would like to punch. I have way too much time in a large null alliance to be fed bullcrap about that. I'm trying to squeeze what you meant out of what you wrote, but you aren't much help. "a particularly punchable target" is one that could be reached easily (not just "punch able" but "particularly punch able") and the rest of your phrase leads me to believe you feel you are inept at being able to strike an easily available target. This use of language goes against your penchant for smacktalking. Had you said "a particularly desirable target for a punch" then I would think the target is one you really want to strike, but it has some form of defense with a degree of difficulty beyond your minor talents. Words are tools, just as armaments and tactics are tools of combat, words are tools of communication. Leaders must be highly effective with both sets of tools, even though poor leaders may pass it off by saying, "I let my sword do my talking", your sword has only one thing to say, while leaders, real leaders must say a lot more in ways which can be understood and in ways which will motivate others to follow them. By your own admission, your sword has a small vocabulary and by observation, you are not faring much better. I do like how you have claimed the white flag of surrender by failing to counter, or even attempt to counter, logical inadequacies in your plan. Actually, your "shrugs" say a lot about your willingness to surrender to superior logic. Now go ahead and founder around ganking the unwilling, the untrained, the unequipped and call it a great success. If you do manage to set up a KB (though I doubt you will want to display the unaggragated data) - make it one with meaning where it has minus points for wheelchair kills, cow tipping, and stealing candy from unattended babies. To make it mean something, killing an equally trained and equipped opponent should carry the lowest positive award just above all the minus point kills, and gradually up the points as greater skill has to be employed to vanquish victims who held an advantage over you, but because of your superior skill alone, you were victorius. If you say a lesser equipped warrior cannot defeat a better equipped warrior, then you are doing it wrong. Stop taking pride in tripping grandma, or loosening the spokes on someone's wheelchair. Stand up and be valiant - fight the ones who think they are invincible, instead of the ones who know they will die, but face you anyway - for those you killed in those circumstances displayed far more courage in defeat than you in what you will want to call a "victory". (Hence why I do not believe you will want to show what actually comprised the ships in the total you will undoubtedly be proud of). I laugh at most KBs as they are a list of slaughtered heroes gone down to prop up the sagging pride of cowards who don't have the courage to face a possible defeat, instead seeking the weakest target to ensure a weak victory which will not extinquish that fire in the belly to finally fight the good fight against a credible foe and even take a loss with dignity. Those you slaughter and mock as carebears takes as much courage and skill from you as a sheep displays when it eats a blade of grass and will never satisfy that need a true chanpion has in order to feel a real victory. It will however, be quite satisfactory for the cowards who just brought their bullying desires away from RL where they are most likely the "carebears" and into the sterile anonymous internet world where your scary avatar let's you be that avatar while you are online and strike a blow against the weak, and become the bully who has never let you get to school with your lunch money. Yes, here - you have POWER!!! There, there... for those of you who are about to post highly critical evaluations such as, "WTF r u takking abut" Just go get your sister to explain it to you. If you are the sister, then print it out and - now here is where you must display courage... show it to one of the kids you have been bullying out of their lunch money, and they will explain it to you. Bye - Time for my corp fleet to do battle with yet another superior force.
How inspiring. |
Judeau Antara
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.22 01:43:00 -
[148] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote: Perhaps. But if so, it appears you simply do not care about the longer-term conesquences of success, should you through some miracle achieve your goals, and nothing you've said so far generates any respect for your position in me.
The Bad Fact is this: Games change. That is one of the verry few indisputable constants.
Evolve, or die.
You're right. I don't care. And I don't care if you respect me or my position. You're exactly the sort of person I want to ruin this game for, in fact.
Not that you care, because you obviously don't, but this statement right here means your wants and desires for this game are null and void. You are an undesirable. A blight upon any gaming community. Something you don't like happens, and you throw a tantrum attempting to make anyone you can feel the same way.
It is ironic, really. You spend so much time trying to make other people upset, and then cry the loudest at the end of it all.
I like the fact that pirating exists in this game. I like the fact that nowhere is 100% safe. But you aren't a pirate, not actually. Just a bully throwing a fit.
Keep your tears flowing, it is hilarious hypocrisy at its finest. |
Betty Bravado
Betty Bravado Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.03.22 02:03:00 -
[149] - Quote
Apolleneous wrote:I fail to see the point here, as you are complaining about "PvP" in high-sec, take yourself to low or null and get all you want brah simple, lots of luck with your propaganda though .
In null I can't really harass a particularly punchable target very effectivly.
(Also, grief is fun.)[/quote]
I like your admission that you are useless when faced with armed opponents on equal ground. And don't try to play your silly games with me about how difficult it is to get to those targets you would like to punch. I have way too much time in a large null alliance to be fed bullcrap about that.
Bye - Time for my corp fleet to do battle with yet another superior force.[/quote] Holy wall of text Batman. [/quote]
They are just words, not an undefeatable obstacle. I hope you did manage to take a few minutes to read the words. I found them quite interesting. I've always found some obstacles will yield rewards for overcoming them. But then some people just give up when facing a challenge... Again, I hope you did not give up.
I had to eliminate some of the fine paragraphs as I got the mesage that only five quotes could be used when i tried to post with the comments I made above. I just shortened one of the three quotes and now it will accept it in the preview, at least. I see CCP is really working on this new forum thing, but the vanishing posts are still a reality. So comforting to know they made pretty new newb ships. I'm sure the newbs who apparently can never see the old ships online now will be glad they probably look better. Just wish CCP would fix what is broken instead of making old things with no problems more pretty. CCP, please stick with the word "function" more than "format" for a little while at least. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
225
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Posted - 2012.03.22 03:47:00 -
[150] - Quote
Subdolus Venator wrote:
The self-defeating stupidity of this is jaw-dropping Allow me to paraphrase a bit for you
"I'm angry at what CCP is doing, therefore I will do everything in my power to make myself an active threat to CCP's revenue stream, thus holding them hostage to my desires."
All you're doing is pitching a fit - in public. Where everyone can see how powerless you truly are.
Pitching a fit is pointless. Its all just words and has no effect on CCP's revenue stream. Ragequitting is a small, but real gesture. Still, its just a couple accounts.
But if I use my knowledge and resources to force OTHERS out of the game...
Its still a relatively small gesture from one person. But the effect is still many times what I could accomplish by simply closing my accounts. Kill my accounts, CCP loses 2 PLEX consumers. Knock 30-40 people out of the game, subscriptions are cancelled and my impact was multiplied immensely.
And posting in public was not a supermarket aisle tantrum - it is an effort to spread information and encourage others to participate, further multiplying the effect.
When you repeatedly attack the same miner, one of four things happen.
-They step up their game and fight back. -They pay to be left alone. -They quit mining. -They quit entirely.
All four scenarios have occured countless times. You see it after killing hundreds upon hundreds of Exhumers And you can eliminate the second option by refusing to offer a 'buyout'.
Sure a few might petition, but nothing has come of it. The vast majority of those who quit the game, simply do it quietly after a few repetitions of saving for a Hulk, losing it, getting podded, and being forced to start over.
And in reality, I can't even take full credit... A huge portion of that decision to quit is directly related to poor PVE content.
Its psychology. Doing something mindlessly dull in order to break new ground is tolerable, if the reward is perceived as 'worth it'. Doing something mindlessly dull in order to make up lost ground, only to be ganked again and again.....leads to giving up.
Thats the effect that can be exploited.
You can take your sad attempt at ridicule elsewhere. "Rules for Radicals" does not work on me. |
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Joyelle
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.03.22 04:34:00 -
[151] - Quote
Herr Wilkus wrote:Subdolus Venator wrote:
The self-defeating stupidity of this is jaw-dropping Allow me to paraphrase a bit for you
"I'm angry at what CCP is doing, therefore I will do everything in my power to make myself an active threat to CCP's revenue stream, thus holding them hostage to my desires."
All you're doing is pitching a fit - in public. Where everyone can see how powerless you truly are.
Pitching a fit is pointless. Its all just words and has no effect on CCP's revenue stream. Ragequitting is a small, but real gesture. Still, its just a couple accounts. But if I use my knowledge and resources to force OTHERS out of the game... Its still a relatively small gesture from one person. But the effect is still many times what I could accomplish by simply closing my accounts. Kill my accounts, CCP loses 2 PLEX consumers. Knock 30-40 people out of the game, subscriptions are cancelled and my impact was multiplied immensely. And posting in public was not a supermarket aisle tantrum - it is an effort to spread information and encourage others to participate, further multiplying the effect. When you repeatedly attack the same miner, one of four things happen. -They step up their game and fight back. -They pay to be left alone. -They quit mining. -They quit entirely. All four scenarios have occured countless times. You see it after killing hundreds upon hundreds of Exhumers And you can eliminate the second option by refusing to offer a 'buyout'. Sure a few might petition, but nothing has come of it. The vast majority of those who quit the game, simply do it quietly after a few repetitions of saving for a Hulk, losing it, getting podded, and being forced to start over. And in reality, I can't even take full credit... A huge portion of that decision to quit is directly related to poor PVE content. Its psychology. Doing something mindlessly dull in order to break new ground is tolerable, if the reward is perceived as 'worth it'. Doing something mindlessly dull in order to make up lost ground, only to be ganked again and again.....leads to giving up. Thats the effect that can be exploited. You can take your sad attempt at ridicule elsewhere. "Rules for Radicals" does not work on me.
Severe offences may result in an immediate ban without warning; however, warnings may be given for first time offenses, followed by account suspensions of varying degree and ultimately a permanent ban if a player:
b. Uses role-playing as an excuse for violating the guidelines regarding fair play with others. |
Sugar Von MurdererTits
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.22 05:56:00 -
[152] - Quote
Joyelle wrote:Severe offences may result in an immediate ban without warning; however, warnings may be given for first time offenses, followed by account suspensions of varying degree and ultimately a permanent ban if a player: b. Uses role-playing as an excuse for violating the guidelines regarding fair play with others.
What do you think constitutes the guidelines regarding fair play with others? And why would what Herr Wilkus suggests violate them?
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Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
26
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Posted - 2012.03.22 07:20:00 -
[153] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Dorn Val wrote:As for small gang PVP: Get into W space. We're living in w-space right now. It's boring, too. I prowl any connecting wormholes we get and sometimes go 2-3 layers deep looking for targets and find very little.
...same thing happens when I roam low sec and NPC null -just gotta keep doing it cause eventually you'll find someone to shoot in the face (in game) Just like there is no I in Team there is no Fair in Eve... |
Betty Bravado
Betty Bravado Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.03.22 07:36:00 -
[154] - Quote
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Pitching a fit is pointless. Its all just words and has no effect on CCP's revenue stream. Ragequitting is a small, but real gesture. Still, its just a couple accounts.
But if I use my knowledge and resources to force OTHERS out of the game...
Its still a relatively small gesture from one person. But the effect is still many times what I could accomplish by simply closing my accounts. Kill my accounts, CCP loses 2 PLEX consumers. Knock 30-40 people out of the game, subscriptions are cancelled and my impact was multiplied immensely.
And posting in public was not a supermarket aisle tantrum - it is an effort to spread information and encourage others to participate, further multiplying the effect.
When you repeatedly attack the same miner, one of four things happen.
-They step up their game and fight back. -They pay to be left alone. -They quit mining. -They quit entirely.
All four scenarios have occured countless times. You see it after killing hundreds upon hundreds of Exhumers And you can eliminate the second option by refusing to offer a 'buyout'.
Sure a few might petition, but nothing has come of it. The vast majority of those who quit the game, simply do it quietly after a few repetitions of saving for a Hulk, losing it, getting podded, and being forced to start over.
And in reality, I can't even take full credit... A huge portion of that decision to quit is directly related to poor PVE content.
Its psychology. Doing something mindlessly dull in order to break new ground is tolerable, if the reward is perceived as 'worth it'. Doing something mindlessly dull in order to make up lost ground, only to be ganked again and again.....leads to giving up.
Thats the effect that can be exploited.
You can take your sad attempt at ridicule elsewhere. "Rules for Radicals" does not work on me.
One flaw, among so many, in your poor understanding of psychology (your barely successful PSY101, maybe 102, just gives you enough familiarity with the very basic terms to provide you with a false sense of greater knowledge) is the reason Rules for Radicals won't work on you. You are NOT a radical! You don't even claim to be one. You are merely a spoiled brat who cannot get what you want (disregard for the rights of others - symptom) and you incorrectly see yourself as a great force (this is a symptom called "Grandiosity") able to sway the minds of many (the manipulation symptom), financially hurt multi-million dollar corporations (again with the grandiosity) and lead legions (this is called "Narcissism" and is most likely fed by successes you have had in manipulating others, another symptom) of followers with your self proclaimed " knowledge and resources" (again, grandiosity). The real truth is your knowledge of ganking and your resources of a computer and ISP connection are woefully inadequate. You my, demented little online acquaintance, have barely risen from the unseen to the level of pathetic in the competitive world of pissants. You give yourself way too much credit for driving players out of the game. To be certain, you have no doubt pissed off quite a few, but you fail to understand the quite high instance of players who rage quit after being harassed beyond the bannable definition in the EULA who return within a very short time, only the wiser to avoid buttflaps such as yourself. They usually go on to become dedicated hisec players which you describe as the bane of your existence - those are not words you would likely use as your vocabulary seems stunted. So you see, your success actually creates that which you hate. You put so much effort into failing as do so many others who, like you, are clueless.
Failing is not new to you, though. You may say, "brat? I'm (enter any one , two or even three digit age) old! How can I be a BRAT!!" Quite simple. Usually human bodies and minds tend to go through a maturation process at predictable stages and eventually both become mature, if all goes well. Sometimes, little important things go wrong in either the nurture or the nature, or even in both arenas where maturation occurs for the mind and the body. Symptoms of a failure to enter and successfully leave a stage of maturity are quite easily observed by those in my profession. I see spoiled brats everyday who are years older than I, and I am no spring chicken. I won't get into many of the simularities people with your likely diagnosis share from childhood and throughout the developmental stages to keep you from any embarrassment. In fact, I won't even mention a likely diagnosis, that most anyone with a modicum of common sense could deduce from a casual perusal of the ominously titled "DSM4" which is just a manual listing all the known problems care providers in my profession encounter. Those of us trained to recognize the panoply of symptoms and place them in some correlative taxonomy use this manual very little, but it is used extensively by those in the health care industry who serve in clerical and typically insurance areas. The manual contains the criteria for diagnosis and details how many of the various symptoms must be present to diagnose the problem in one of its levels of complexity. I will say that it seems the young "Herr Wilkus" is in the prime age for the height of the symptoms of a possible diagnosis and that many of these symptoms begin to markedly dissipate in one's late thirties and early forties, so he quite likely has more than a few years of "bratitude" to get over.
So venture forth into boringly typical behaiors. Sorry for my "First Draft" quality of grammar and spelling! The end! |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
225
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Posted - 2012.03.22 08:15:00 -
[155] - Quote
You missed the point entirely, Mr. Angry Wall of text. I didn't say I was a 'radical.'
"Rules for Radicals" #5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."
You can call me a 'brat' and a 'child', or falsely accuse me of 'being mad', and throwing a tantrum like the other fellow. You can't shock me. It simply doesn't penetrate, much like the rest of your wall of psychobabble that I couldn't be bothered to do more than skim through. Seeing all-caps insults was enough.
CCP responds to financial incentive. If CCP continues to reshaping the game in a way that favors carebears (at our expense), I'm not going waste time whining about it. My (rational) response is to drive those carebears out of the game. Its not wrong, its just politics.
Read my other posts. I wasn't ranting. I was attempting to give useful pointers to others on how to do it properly. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
163
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Posted - 2012.03.22 13:11:00 -
[156] - Quote
Dude, he clearly doesn't get it. Don't bother. You're wrestling a pig here. Crime Spree starts tomorrow, let's just let the Catalysts and the recruitment channel do the talking for us. |
Judeau Antara
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.03.22 13:34:00 -
[157] - Quote
Herr Wilkus wrote:You missed the point entirely, Mr. Angry Wall of text. I didn't say I was a 'radical.'
"Rules for Radicals" #5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."
You can call me a 'brat' and a 'child', or falsely accuse me of 'being mad', and throwing a tantrum like the other fellow. You can't shock me. It simply doesn't penetrate, much like the rest of your wall of psychobabble that I couldn't be bothered to do more than skim through. Seeing all-caps insults was enough.
CCP responds to financial incentive. If CCP continues to reshaping the game in a way that favors carebears (at our expense), I'm not going waste time whining about it. My (rational) response is to drive those carebears out of the game. Its not wrong, its just politics.
Read my other posts. I wasn't ranting. I was attempting to give useful pointers to others on how to do it properly.
If you honestly believe they would actually bend to something so insignificant as your little crusade of misguided griefing, then you are having some serious problems with the use of basic reasoning.
If there was suddenly a significant hemmorage of players based upon this "crime spree", you think their first response would be to make pirating easier? Support the very thing that is now costing them players? Lol.
No, the most logical response to such a loss in subscriptions would be to make those players even safer. Really, it isn't difficult. You can't extort a company who has the power to just ban undesirables such as yourself.
The only thing you will be doing is harming people who had nothing to do with any of your complaints. |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.03.22 13:38:00 -
[158] - Quote
Herr Wilkus, I really find myself baffled.
Clearly, you've got a mind capable of great things - your Boomerang tactic is brilliant. But yet you appear to utterly fail to see the pointlessness of conducting a campaign doomed to fail, one in which you can't even claim a moral victory - You cannot punish CCP for their percieved crimes against you. All you can do is lash out at uninvolved third parties, which is the complete depths of impotence. By the time you manage to make eve the first person ragequit, a dozen more will have signed up and paid their money. CCP will never feel any impact of your actions. You're pissing up a rope.
Instead of concentrating on what you're really good at (finding and executing new and interesting ways of ganking for fun and profit), you're planning a pointless temper-tantrum that is doomed to failure. I can't mock that - it mocks itself. |
Yankee Sullivan
Sweatpants Boner
0
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Posted - 2012.03.22 14:43:00 -
[159] - Quote
Some words of wisdom from Mark Twain: "Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
EVE doesn't have griefing, it has a crime rate. that's awesome, it needs to not go away. |
Judeau Antara
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.03.22 15:01:00 -
[160] - Quote
Yankee Sullivan wrote:Some words of wisdom from Mark Twain: "Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates."
EVE doesn't have griefing, it has a crime rate. that's awesome, it needs to not go away.
Pirating is a great part of EVE. Adds flavor, much needed danger and conflict. Keeps things alive.
Intentionally trying to cause someone so much loss and anguish that they cancel their sub....this is not a good thing for EVE. |
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1156
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:18:00 -
[161] - Quote
Miss Congenialty wrote:I like your admission that you are useless when faced with armed opponents on equal ground. And don't try to play your silly games with me about how difficult it is to get to those targets you would like to punch. I have way too much time in a large null alliance to be fed bullcrap about that.
I'm trying to squeeze what you meant out of what you wrote, but you aren't much help. "a particularly punchable target" is one that could be reached easily (not just "punch able" but "particularly punch able") and the rest of your phrase leads me to believe you feel you are inept at being able to strike an easily available target. This use of language goes against your penchant for smacktalking. Had you said "a particularly desirable target for a punch" then I would think the target is one you really want to strike, but it has some form of defense with a degree of difficulty beyond your minor talents.
I know Monk pretty well. A "particularly punchable" target would be anything that's fun to punch. Either because they drop good loot (Incursion griefing), cry a lot, think they're awesome and need a reality check, or just plain give us good fights. We've taken fewer than a dozen people on an extended campaign into Providence to pursue a war target that joined a CVA pet alliance. We won that war in spite of operating outnumbered in hostile territory.
Miss Congenialty wrote:{lots of pretentious bluster}
You talk more than me. I'd be impressed, but you said so little in all those words that you might as well have said nothing at all. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Octoven
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
0
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:34:00 -
[162] - Quote
The only response I have to this is...wow. Rogues like you have been dealt with in the past and im sure it will happen again. Eve doesn't exist purely for your benefit. With that being said, I dare every miner in the game to park their hulks, I call every miner in the game to go on strike. The marketing effects have already been felt with the Goonswamping Lonetrek. Imagine if every miner in high sec parked? Extreme behavior has always been dealt a losing blow and you can assure yourself it will happen to you as well. close to 70% of all activity is in high sec, it is this way because no one likes being attacked when trading. If you want cut-throat, save it for low sec. The bigger issue here is that no one wants to go down that way, so...after your exhaustive methods to force people out into the scourges of eve and having failed, you turn toward more forceful means. CCP ultimately is going to side with the majority on any game changes, which should demonstrate to you the lack of support in such an underground environment. I wish you luck, but I wouldn't hold my breath. These "jihad" tactics will only serve to tighten the bolts on piracy. Finally, I would say that even if most miners don't park their ships, you can bet I will. I have other means of procuring ISK without mining, that is just one less miner contributing minerals to markets. You have seen the price of items skyrocket, but to paraphrase you, "you haven't seen anything yet." Prices will soar to unbelievable levels, and ultimately people will leave the game before allowing piracy to occur in high sec. At that point, EvE will lose players at incredible levels. CCP, as a business will have no choice to step in. They exist to make a profit, not to fulfill your personal needs. Sorry, but you can bet this won't last long nor will you gain anything from it. You have already lost. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1158
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:51:00 -
[163] - Quote
Because hulkageddon 1-4 resulted in action that put an end to piracy. Or the ice interdictions. Or any number of other organized gankfests.
Miners won't go on strike. They never do. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
144
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Posted - 2012.03.22 17:00:00 -
[164] - Quote
new hulkageddon?
this is new and fresh idea! |
Elson Tamar
Lion Investments
103
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Posted - 2012.03.22 17:17:00 -
[165] - Quote
As a high sec carebear i think this is awsome, carry on the good work. Much better than just rolling out hulkagedden once a year. |
Sugar Von MurdererTits
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.22 17:54:00 -
[166] - Quote
Octoven wrote:The only response I have to this is...wow. Rogues like you have been dealt with in the past and im sure it will happen again. Eve doesn't exist purely for your benefit. With that being said, I dare every miner in the game to park their hulks, I call every miner in the game to go on strike. The marketing effects have already been felt with the Goonswamping Lonetrek. Imagine if every miner in high sec parked? Extreme behavior has always been dealt a losing blow and you can assure yourself it will happen to you as well. close to 70% of all activity is in high sec, it is this way because no one likes being attacked when trading. If you want cut-throat, save it for low sec. The bigger issue here is that no one wants to go down that way, so...after your exhaustive methods to force people out into the scourges of eve and having failed, you turn toward more forceful means. CCP ultimately is going to side with the majority on any game changes, which should demonstrate to you the lack of support in such an underground environment. I wish you luck, but I wouldn't hold my breath. These "jihad" tactics will only serve to tighten the bolts on piracy. Finally, I would say that even if most miners don't park their ships, you can bet I will. I have other means of procuring ISK without mining, that is just one less miner contributing minerals to markets. You have seen the price of items skyrocket, but to paraphrase you, "you haven't seen anything yet." Prices will soar to unbelievable levels, and ultimately people will leave the game before allowing piracy to occur in high sec. At that point, EvE will lose players at incredible levels. CCP, as a business will have no choice to step in. They exist to make a profit, not to fulfill your personal needs. Sorry, but you can bet this won't last long nor will you gain anything from it. You have already lost.
Miners aren't going to strike. Even a noob like me can tell you that
Question: why do you even play this game? There are so many people who play Eve and then come and cry on the forums about griefers and war decs and how horrible other Eve players are. Then why are you even here? It''s like going to a vegetarian restaurant and getting stroppy that you can't order a hamburger.
Here is a tip for you: if you want to play Eve where you can mine or mission without danger then go on Sisi for a while and see how interesting the game is when most of the player generated content is stripped away. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
296
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Posted - 2012.03.22 18:55:00 -
[167] - Quote
Octoven wrote:The only response I have to this is...wow. Rogues like you have been dealt with in the past and im sure it will happen again. Eve doesn't exist purely for your benefit. With that being said, I dare every miner in the game to park their hulks, I call every miner in the game to go on strike. The marketing effects have already been felt with the Goonswamping Lonetrek. Imagine if every miner in high sec parked? Extreme behavior has always been dealt a losing blow and you can assure yourself it will happen to you as well. close to 70% of all activity is in high sec, it is this way because no one likes being attacked when trading. If you want cut-throat, save it for low sec. The bigger issue here is that no one wants to go down that way, so...after your exhaustive methods to force people out into the scourges of eve and having failed, you turn toward more forceful means. CCP ultimately is going to side with the majority on any game changes, which should demonstrate to you the lack of support in such an underground environment. I wish you luck, but I wouldn't hold my breath. These "jihad" tactics will only serve to tighten the bolts on piracy. Finally, I would say that even if most miners don't park their ships, you can bet I will. I have other means of procuring ISK without mining, that is just one less miner contributing minerals to markets. You have seen the price of items skyrocket, but to paraphrase you, "you haven't seen anything yet." Prices will soar to unbelievable levels, and ultimately people will leave the game before allowing piracy to occur in high sec. At that point, EvE will lose players at incredible levels. CCP, as a business will have no choice to step in. They exist to make a profit, not to fulfill your personal needs. Sorry, but you can bet this won't last long nor will you gain anything from it. You have already lost.
Punctuation, paragraphs, line-breaks:
Know them, live them, love them, for they will never steer you wrong!
Oh, wait: Those would just make it immediately clear that you're spouting the same old re-hashed "I wanna be 100% safe!" cliches that carebears always do...Right, then, carry on...
In irae, veritas. |
Octoven
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
0
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Posted - 2012.03.22 19:15:00 -
[168] - Quote
Fortunately, this isn't grammar class, go teach it if you wish for people to use proper grammar. Secondly, I enjoy a little scare every now and then, but to completely want a 100% pvp arena for every system in Eve is ludicrous to say the least. As I recall it was the other side of this matter who initiated the grieving, I simply carried it on from another viewpoint. Finally, perhaps you should play the game more before submitting your options, if you are keen to announce you're a noob then more power to you. However, it seems clear that this game is also full of whiny pirates who live to **** people off and if they don't get what they want they whine too. Great, just means you can be a scourge in any game, have fun. |
Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.03.22 20:12:00 -
[169] - Quote
Herr Wilkus wrote:You missed the point entirely, Mr. Angry Wall of text. I didn't say I was a 'radical.'
"Rules for Radicals" #5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."
You can call me a 'brat' and a 'child', or falsely accuse me of 'being mad', and throwing a tantrum like the other fellow. You can't shock me. It simply doesn't penetrate, much like the rest of your wall of psychobabble that I couldn't be bothered to do more than skim through. Seeing all-caps insults was enough.
CCP responds to financial incentive. If CCP continues to reshaping the game in a way that favors carebears (at our expense), I'm not going waste time whining about it. My (rational) response is to drive those carebears out of the game. Its not wrong, its just politics.
Read my other posts. I wasn't ranting. I was attempting to give useful pointers to others on how to do it properly.
You fail at reading. His second sentence states you are not a radical, His third sentence states that you never even claimed to be a radical.
I failed to find any anger in his "wall of text"
"Psychobabble" Yes, anything you fail to understand does sound like babble. Once you take the time to educate yourself, you will find much less babble in the world. My first visit to a foreign country (China) reminded me of what it must be like to not be able to even read street signs, and store names. It could be described as babble, but it was not the fault of the Chinese that I failed to understand, it was because I had not yet educated myself - just as you lack the education to understand his quite easily understood words, many of which he defined. You also fail to recognize it is your lack, not his, that makes you want to ridicule his words as "psychobabble".
He never called you a child. He stated the symptoms of your probable diagnosis stem from childhood. He described your actions as child like, but he never called you a child.
Now, you say here that your (rational) response is to chase carebears out of the game. Please, it could only be a rational response in your mind. And those of us who have read your rants (that is what they are) already know you are not connected to reality in any rational manner.
Drive carebears from the game... Your game is to screw with carebears, so what if there were no carebears?
Without carebears, the bean counters at CCP would suddenly realize the game is now dead and cannot survive on the measly income derived from the gankers and nul alliances, who would also be quitting becasue there were no more carebears to gank..
Large null alliances are suffering right now as their members are spending way more time on their incursion alts making the isk that is not available in such quantities to the rank and file of the alliances.
The only end game I can see if you could even have a glimmer of a hope of success, would be to shut down Eve. And do you really think if you begin to have some success, that you won't just become extinct? I cannot see CCP crying about your loss of accounts.
Google the Keystone Cops - you are going to be known as the Keystone Flops or the "Gang Who Couldn't Think Straight".
You are so blinded by your rage, that you fail to see things as they really are.
Yes, you are quite hopeless and reasoning with you is like explaining to a two year old about sharing while in the sandbox, when all you want to do is take a crap in the sandbox.
You also fail at math - look at the paltry number of those in this forum who are proud (and dumb) enough to step forward in support of your delusional goals.
Oh and another thing - to out psyche and psychologist is really a futile task. He was certainly right, you are as predictable as clock and just as boring. Go on, do stupid things... act like a Rhino who forgets why he was running before he can turn around for a second charge, you will see something glitter in the distance and become distracted.... Wishing you good luck is akin to re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic
You are a joke. The movie of your failure could be titled, "The Little Rascals March Off to Win WW2
Oh my - sorry I might have used words not in your tiny vocabulary.
And your equally off-balanced friend, Psychotic Monk is right, but just not right about what he thinks he is right about.
We do "get it" - it is you and those like you who "don't get it" Perhaps with a little brain damage, we might see your position as valid. |
xo3e
Ministry of Assets Expropriation
14
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Posted - 2012.03.22 20:56:00 -
[170] - Quote
griefers provil Signature removed. Navigator |
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
299
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Posted - 2012.03.22 21:10:00 -
[171] - Quote
Octoven wrote:Fortunately, this isn't grammar class, go teach it if you wish for people to use proper grammar. [...]
If you wish to be taken seriously, then write like someone who isn't a functional illiterate.
Oh, and EVE already is a free-for-all PvP arena:
Because everything--everything--in EVE is PvP competition, not just direct combat. In irae, veritas. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
225
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Posted - 2012.03.22 21:19:00 -
[172] - Quote
Annie Taxxer wrote: blah blah blah, insults and nonsense
You don't have to pretend like you are two different people, and leap to your own defense, Mr. Wall of Text. Sock puppetry will earn you no points here. Just post with your main like a big boy.
Three paragraph long rage posts full of insults and misguided theories about my motivations -and people accuse ME of being mad. Wow. One post about depopulating the carebears and the bile just spills all over the place.
I actually kind of look forward to killing off some of CCP's subscribers. Its actually a lot easier than trying to control the bot population. Instead of having to fit and move dozens of Tornados to clear out all the bots, focusing on the younger, more vulnerable miners will save me a lot of time on logistics. |
Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.03.22 21:30:00 -
[173] - Quote
Same person? You are ignorant.
This is my main, little boy.
I thought you might entertain for a bit, but you are dreadfully boring.
Look me up sometime. and bring a friend, if you make one by then
I'm kinda busy here at FanFest while it seems you are busy at LoserFest |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
166
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Posted - 2012.03.22 21:39:00 -
[174] - Quote
Annie Taxxer wrote:Same person? You are ignorant.
This is my main, little boy.
I thought you might entertain for a bit, but you are dreadfully boring.
Look me up sometime. and bring a friend, if you make one by then
I'm kinda busy here at FanFest while it seems you are busy at LoserFest
Herr Wilkus is a respected and liked member of the griefing community and an old-guard member of one of the great griefing institutions in this game. Who are you? |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1164
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Posted - 2012.03.22 21:43:00 -
[175] - Quote
I do so love internet pissing contests. They're fun to start and even more fun to watch.
Annie Taxxer wrote:This is my main, little boy. I'm pretty sure you would have logged your main in some time since they FORCED the recreation of avatars. As you don't have one, I can only conclude you've been playing with "alts" for a year now.
Annie Taxxer wrote:Look me up sometime. and bring a friend, if you make one by then I'll be his friend if it means I get to watch you flounder and spout more nonsense. Bonus points if there is shooting involved.
Annie Taxxer wrote:I'm kinda busy here at FanFest while it seems you are busy at LoserFest I would *almost* put money on this being a lie. Not to mention a really weak middle school insult. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.22 21:46:00 -
[176] - Quote
oh - this isn't my main
TOP oF the World BEER - BEST BEER!
oh - and a lot of ppl here are getting a good laugh out of punks like you who can't make it null with the rest of us and can only have a good time popping day old targets - LOZER!
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
226
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Posted - 2012.03.22 22:02:00 -
[177] - Quote
Was going to hit the sack, but I couldn't let that last one go.
It appeared that you were *seriously* bragging about going to Fanfest. Wow, wow, wow.
Thats quite an admission - because I wouldn't be caught dead there.
Eve's a fun game - but thats as far as it goes. Traveling to Iceland because of a game is not something I'd classify as 'adult' behavior. Sorry, thats just me.
Besides, I'd rather maintain my optimistic illusions about the Eve community - without being directly confronted with the harsh reality. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1165
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Posted - 2012.03.22 22:09:00 -
[178] - Quote
Annie Taxxer wrote:TOP oF the World BEER - BEST BEER! For some reason, I picture a 13-year-old kid trying to sound grown up by talking about alcohol. Either you're doing a fair job of trolling, you're a child, or you're acting like one. I'm hoping it's troll.
Annie Taxxer wrote:oh - and a lot of ppl here are getting a good laugh out of punks like you who can't make it null with the rest of us and can only have a good time popping day old targets - LOZER! Now I'm picturing that 13-year-old beating a scarecrow with a plastic bat. Feeling badass yet? It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1165
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Posted - 2012.03.22 22:13:00 -
[179] - Quote
Herr Wilkus wrote:Traveling to Iceland because of a game is not something I'd classify as 'adult' behavior. Sorry, thats just me.
I'd love to get most of the Skunkworks there. We could spend the whole time doing what we do in Eve and trolling all the nerds into fits of spittle-flinging rage and go home to a fresh round of wars to fight. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
299
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Posted - 2012.03.22 22:17:00 -
[180] - Quote
Annie Taxxer wrote:
[childish crap]
oh - and a lot of ppl here are getting a good laugh out of punks like you who can't make it null with the rest of us and can only have a good time popping day old targets - LOZER!
Oh, look:
Generic faceless forum-alt beaking off about its main's nullsec 1337-ness to all us "pubbies," whilst showing once again how incredibly, hilariously blinkered the nulltard crowd really is. Take your pedastalisation (is that a word? It is now!) of mindless herd-conformity in the name of enriching RMT-barons elsewhere, nullbear, no-one here wants ******* anything to do with it.
Never imagined we'd see that in this thread, who'd'a thunk, eh?
0/10, needs at least some originality.
E: It's loser, not "lozer," by the way. In irae, veritas. |
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Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.22 22:45:00 -
[181] - Quote
you schmux are all angry and you're not speaking the truth!
frustrated pre-school teacher
just let slide your buddies word invention and zoomed in on a slang spelling of your middle name, huh?
sorry, ifrgot I turned this toon back on for FF cuz i dint want to take a chance letting a PW get out on a real toon of mine this is on a guys ' laptop who is buying me beer and I just alt tab every now and then
Get in bed kiddies - school bus (short version) will be there soon! |
Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.22 22:50:00 -
[182] - Quote
hey - ima go over to one of the cameras and hold up a napkin with my real main toon name - if you see a 13 year old eith a plastic bat- then you nknow you are the scarecrow!!!
Don't worry - you are gonna get plnty of new war decs
we coming to hisec to "save' carebears from you so we can kill em all |
kiki mo
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
9
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Posted - 2012.03.22 22:55:00 -
[183] - Quote
Annie Taxxer wrote:oh - this isn't my main
TOP oF the World BEER - BEST BEER!
oh - and a lot of ppl here are getting a good laugh out of punks like you who can't make it null with the rest of us and can only have a good time popping day old targets - LOZER!
He's cool because he now just let everyone know he drinks BEER. (ALLCAPS emphasis not mine). |
Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.22 22:55:00 -
[184] - Quote
we just did some hissec math - 28 members in a corp = 10 accounts = ..... llesssee nao.... 3 real ppl!
hahahahhahahaha
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Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.22 23:06:00 -
[185] - Quote
o crap - TEH WHOLE DAM THING WAS SUPOSED TO BE IN caps |
Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.22 23:10:00 -
[186] - Quote
ok - dont make me have to by lunch for a locator agnt - tell us where fyou are right now!
Ima go to my rooma adn get on my lptop and a bunch of us are coming toi visit you right nowq!
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
301
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Posted - 2012.03.22 23:11:00 -
[187] - Quote
Annie Taxxer wrote:we just did some hissec math - 28 members in a corp = 10 accounts = ..... llesssee nao.... 3 real ppl!
hahahahhahahaha
Just stop, now, OK?
Before you do anything else stupid. In irae, veritas. |
Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.22 23:16:00 -
[188] - Quote
Excellent! - I told my buddies you gusya would chicken out in less than 10 minutes by begging us not to come or refusing to tell us wher u r
Only stupin thing I've done throw down a challenge to a bunch (is 3 a bunch?0 of WUSSSIES! |
Atomik Harmonik
Working Girls
22
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Posted - 2012.03.22 23:28:00 -
[189] - Quote
I'm confused; who are you challenging while you are drinking TEH BEST BEER?
What I got out of this is that apparently you like to brag about drinking BEER while aggressively poasting with a faceless alt...all the while you slowly lose the little amount of coherency you started with. |
Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.22 23:31:00 -
[190] - Quote
JUST LIK E i THOUGHT OH
we r gonna give all a suprise party! 300 rifters a re jump out yelling - SURPISE!
but I sant tell you when- it is a shuuuushshs s u r p r i s e.... |
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Annie Taxxer
Annie Taxxer Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.03.22 23:35:00 -
[191] - Quote
POASTING!?!?
hahahahhahahahaha |
drdxie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.03.22 23:53:00 -
[192] - Quote
so your complaint is you not man enough to go and do real PVP in LS/NS.. so CCP should help you be bully.... |
TravisWB
The Gallente Rangers
34
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Posted - 2012.03.23 01:36:00 -
[193] - Quote
lol
The carebear pirates are about to launch another hisec temper tantrum and randomly assualt the weak, defenseless and harmless that play their EVE game in hisec?
Its a good thing you have these forums to fap in otherwise we would not know how mighty and purpose driven you are.
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
301
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Posted - 2012.03.23 01:46:00 -
[194] - Quote
Annie Taxxer wrote:Excellent! - I told my buddies you gusya would chicken out in less than 10 minutes by begging us not to come or refusing to tell us wher u r
Only stupin thing I've done throw down a challenge to a bunch (is 3 a bunch?0 of WUSSSIES!
You can run a locator-agent on me/my corpies anytime you like.
No, I won't "dec-shield" to avoid you.
Bring it, or shut it.
Useless little punk.
In irae, veritas. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1167
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Posted - 2012.03.23 02:16:00 -
[195] - Quote
Annie Taxxer wrote:Blah blah blah blah blah.
I've been living in a wormhole for the past month or so. Drop me a mail from your main, I'll let you know where we have entrances. No need for wardecs or highsec shenanigans, just you, whoever is fool enough to follow you, and us.
Anyone want to place any bets on whether or not Annie shows up? It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Astroniomix
EliteTroll
16
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Posted - 2012.03.23 03:48:00 -
[196] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Annie Taxxer wrote:Blah blah blah blah blah. I've been living in a wormhole for the past month or so. Drop me a mail from your main, I'll let you know where we have entrances. No need for wardecs or highsec shenanigans, just you, whoever is fool enough to follow you, and us. Anyone want to place any bets on whether or not Annie shows up? Can I salvage the wreck? |
Malina Trill
United Angels of Eden
0
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Posted - 2012.03.25 16:06:00 -
[197] - Quote
Wow dude, your an idiot. High sec ganking has gone way up since the old days
Grow some balls and help your corp mates grow theirs, instead of being a crying baby and starting a contest to get others to do it for you. In the past weeks I have been ganking with friends in high sec which I havent done in awhile and honestly there is no change to ganking, if you are smart enough to know what you have to bring then you wont have a problem, BUT if you are a lil powder puff girl like you are (that is obviously a problem for you) then all you can do is cry on forums and ask for help. like come on man seriosly.
I'd ask you to come along but if this is how you are, I would obviously retract that offer.
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1451
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Posted - 2012.03.25 22:47:00 -
[198] - Quote
You have my 100 Thrashers !
Well ... i'm down to 66 already. ^^ Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Llyona
SKEET ELITE Sk33t Fl33t
5
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Posted - 2012.03.26 04:44:00 -
[199] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: I'd love to get most of the Skunkworks there. We could spend the whole time doing what we do in Eve and trolling all the nerds into fits of spittle-flinging rage...
I have yet to be impressed by an internet tough guy. EVE is an illness, for which there is no cure. |
Llyona
SKEET ELITE Sk33t Fl33t
5
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Posted - 2012.03.26 04:55:00 -
[200] - Quote
Psychotic Monk wrote: Stuff
Sounds pretty good to me.
Make sure you guys pop lots of T2 ships and components so I can increase my profit margins.
As for your whole "We're going to show CCP" aspect: Dream on bud. EVE is an illness, for which there is no cure. |
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Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen Wicked Intentions.
199
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Posted - 2012.03.26 05:59:00 -
[201] - Quote
And I quote the Rob Zombie
Quote: I am the Devil, and I'm here to do the Devil's work.
I'll do this for pure shiggles :) E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us
Heil Hizzle Mein Nizzles. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1176
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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:05:00 -
[202] - Quote
Llyona wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: I'd love to get most of the Skunkworks there. We could spend the whole time doing what we do in Eve and trolling all the nerds into fits of spittle-flinging rage...
I have yet to be impressed by an internet tough guy. You misunderstand. It's not that fanfest is full of nerds (well...maybe, but I know plenty of non-nerds who went). It's just that a lot of the nerds who *are* there hate us, and we'd have quite a lot of fun trolling them. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Llyona
SKEET ELITE Sk33t Fl33t
5
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Posted - 2012.03.26 15:59:00 -
[203] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: You misunderstand. It's not that fanfest is full of nerds (well...maybe, but I know plenty of non-nerds who went). It's just that a lot of the nerds who *are* there hate us, and we'd have quite a lot of fun trolling them.
I'm just curious as to what means you've determined whether they're "nerds" and what you define a "nerd" as.
Honestly, I've always considered "nerd" a term for someone who is deeply interested in a subject to the point that they could be considered an expert.
Then again, I've encountered some people who equate "nerd" to "someone that I could wipe the floor with in a fight", which I don't think fits the term.
What's your concept of the term? EVE is an illness, for which there is no cure. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1179
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:43:00 -
[204] - Quote
Llyona wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: You misunderstand. It's not that fanfest is full of nerds (well...maybe, but I know plenty of non-nerds who went). It's just that a lot of the nerds who *are* there hate us, and we'd have quite a lot of fun trolling them.
I'm just curious as to what means you've determined whether they're "nerds" and what you define a "nerd" as. Honestly, I've always considered "nerd" a term for someone who is deeply interested in a subject to the point that they could be considered an expert. Then again, I've encountered some people who equate "nerd" to "someone that I could wipe the floor with in a fight", which I don't think fits the term. What's your concept of the term? Someone who is overly obsessive on a subject. There are better words for someone who is deeply interested in something: "expert" or "hobbyist" or "passionate". Nerds are something else. They will argue for hours why their particular choice in audio/video/computer hardware is superior to all others, even when no one else is arguing with them. Nerds are convinced that they are the authority on the subject, regardless of the facts. They're the people, in this frame of reference, who think they know all there is to know about Eve. Anything that upsets that view sends them into a rage, and anyone who doesn't play by their arbitrary rules of the game should be banned. Given my corp's blatant efforts to push the envelope with the rules, guys like that absolutely HATE how we play the game.
As for "someone that I could wipe the floor with in a fight"...I don't generally try to test such theories. No matter who wins the fight, the cops and/or bouncers see to it that both parties lose. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
41
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:05:00 -
[205] - Quote
Going off your first post. Who is "we" and who are "they". Cause whoever "they" are, Is griefin you very well. And whoever "we" are, Well you are only one space-vatar the "we" part needs specifics. I thought Skunkworks was full of crafty thick skinned mechanic studying bad asses. Are you guys running out of new things to think up or something. I really wish i could help. But again specifics need to be displayed. What exactly is it you think should be changed to further help you in your adventures? From where i stand, CCP (whom i assume is the "they" ) is adding new stuff for you guys erry spansion and fixin the old stuff you have either overdone or has gotten way out of hand. What gives?
Either way, Even if you cant post me specifics. I wish you guys (the "We" whomever they are) the best of luck in your adventures in the way you play this game. |
Astroniomix
EliteTroll
16
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:05:00 -
[206] - Quote
StonerPhReaK wrote:Going off your first post. Who is "we" and who are "they". Cause whoever "they" are, Is griefin you very well. And whoever "we" are, Well you are only one space-vatar the "we" part needs specifics. I thought Skunkworks was full of crafty thick skinned mechanic studying bad asses. Are you guys running out of new things to think up or something. I really wish i could help. But again specifics need to be displayed. What exactly is it you think should be changed to further help you in your adventures? From where i stand, CCP (whom i assume is the "they" ) is adding new stuff for you guys erry spansion and fixin the old stuff you have either overdone or has gotten way out of hand. What gives?
Either way, Even if you cant post me specifics. I wish you guys (the "We" whomever they are) the best of luck in your adventures in the way you play this game. From where I am standing their biggest issue apears to be the current dec scraping stuff. CCP's temporary "fix" for the state of wardecs is to make it realy easy on the defending party. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
190
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:18:00 -
[207] - Quote
StonerPhReaK wrote:Going off your first post. Who is "we" and who are "they". Cause whoever "they" are, Is griefin you very well. And whoever "we" are, Well you are only one space-vatar the "we" part needs specifics. I thought Skunkworks was full of crafty thick skinned mechanic studying bad asses. Are you guys running out of new things to think up or something. I really wish i could help. But again specifics need to be displayed. What exactly is it you think should be changed to further help you in your adventures? From where i stand, CCP (whom i assume is the "they" ) is adding new stuff for you guys erry spansion and fixin the old stuff you have either overdone or has gotten way out of hand. What gives?
Either way, Even if you cant post me specifics. I wish you guys (the "We" whomever they are) the best of luck in your adventures in the way you play this game.
Yeah, basically that. Dec scraping is the biggest issue. Beyond that, it's not really a problem with specific nerfs, it just seems like every single week there's some kind of stealth nerf on some decent, not-totally-OP kind of scam or grief. Like wreck baiting. Why the **** did that need to be nerfed at least twice? Nobody was on a wreck-baiting rampage killing every single person who wandered across their path.
And why are they all stealth nerfs? And why are we coddling people to such a degree that they all think they're entitled to whatever behaviour they like without being interfered with at all?
That I have to ask these sorts of questions is what's getting me in a table-flipping mood.
They, in this case, are CCP. |
Llyona
SKEET ELITE Sk33t Fl33t
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:12:00 -
[208] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: Someone who is overly obsessive on a subject. There are better words for someone who is deeply interested in something: "expert" or "hobbyist" or "passionate". Nerds are something else. They will argue for hours why their particular choice in audio/video/computer hardware is superior to all others, even when no one else is arguing with them. Nerds are convinced that they are the authority on the subject, regardless of the facts. They're the people, in this frame of reference, who think they know all there is to know about Eve. Anything that upsets that view sends them into a rage, and anyone who doesn't play by their arbitrary rules of the game should be banned. Given my corp's blatant efforts to push the envelope with the rules, guys like that absolutely HATE how we play the game.
Sounds like you equate a nerd with a NPA Personality Type. If that's the case, then we're agreed because no one likes a NPA.
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: As for "someone that I could wipe the floor with in a fight"...I don't generally try to test such theories. No matter who wins the fight, the cops and/or bouncers see to it that both parties lose.
Pretty mature statement if you ask me. EVE is an illness, for which there is no cure. |
Alxea
The Army of The Ori
62
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:09:00 -
[209] - Quote
Fight the good fight and hold the line! I am with you. |
Kodavor
Mine3
4
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:22:00 -
[210] - Quote
Quote:And why are we coddling people to such a degree that they all think they're entitled to whatever behaviour they like without being interfered with at all?
Direct this towards yourself and then answer . |
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
489
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Posted - 2012.03.28 11:33:00 -
[211] - Quote
Highsec was fine, and didn't have nerfs to suicideganks etc until people started to make isk in high (2007 onwards, mainly). That has unfortunately attracted a playerbase that keeps feeding CCP with money, so now they can't afford to a) have highsec players being pissed and leaving the game, b) reduce their income to reasonable levels.
Who really cares about crimes in highsec, when it's going to be the end of EVE's economy at some point if nothing happens. Fix that balance first, then I'm sure you come a long way towards 'fixing' the carebear whines in highsec as well (as most of them would/should move out to low-, wh and null). shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1455
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:07:00 -
[212] - Quote
33 pods and counting. Did around 7 billion ISK of damage so far, not counting costs of their clones.
Trying to avoid pods from 2012, because i care about noobs. They could have implants.
Most prominent supporter so far: An autopiloting pod from PL, containing a full high grade slave set + other expensive implants.
Yes, i want that billion ISK. :) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
198
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:28:00 -
[213] - Quote
I think you've got work to do, then. I believe there are some dudes still ahead of you.
The killboard I was going to have set up for this fell through, though, so we won't know for sure until I get one set up. I'm reaching out to everyone I know who's even remotely related to killboard things. I'll post here once it's up.
Good work on the pods, keep it up!
Dudes, I still need *audio* submission of tears. I mean, all submissions of tears are excellent, but especially audio submissions. |
Tammy Ta Tas
HBE
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Posted - 2012.03.31 05:42:00 -
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Hookers n' Blow Entertainment would like to donate ISK to this fantastic endeavor!
100mil to the "I hope you updated it" prize pot.
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