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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1797
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:12:00 -
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My favorite part of the OP is that this is just the first step in fixing SUPERCAPITALS ONLINE. I hope to see many, many more nerfs in the near future.
Thank you, CCP, for not caving in to the tiny minority that is ~elite PvP~. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Dan Massell
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:12:00 -
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Emily Heapy wrote:Dank Man wrote:Wow, ccp you must love goons and blobs. because this nerf make the bigger subcap blob win all fights, congrats mittens and goons, you cried enough on the forums and welped enough fleets into capital weapons that you got what you wanted, a capital weapon shield! gg. Now wipe those tears Mister. Every cloud and all that, at least now you will learn that PvP is more than just Log on titan > Slam head against keyboard and pwn everything. You may even learn some kills now!!!! Regards Emily p.s. I will buy your titan, 30b isk ready
i know. because you know lots about PVP because zergling 1600 man fleet across entire region is real PVP.
the ONLY thing smaller alliances have against nonsense like this kind of a blob was until now to grow some balls and deploy trillions of ISK on the battlefield and try to even the odds. But that's not real PVP. I know.
CCP Grayscale man... stop embarrassing yourself here saying we don't have time to really deal with this the way it should be. we have no resources for that so we going to deploy the most significant change that will most likely help remove number of alliances from the map without any serious thinking. we will finish this later when goons online is completed. Until then all of you who spent 120bil buying and fitting a tit go and spend 30bil more so you can get your lock time to around 45 sec. Its just disrespectful.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5470
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:12:00 -
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Vissor wrote:Are you re.....d? why should i even try to lock frigate or cruiser after all of these changes? if there like 1% chance to hit cruiser? Because he's infinipointing your titan buddy 30km away, where the range alleviates the slow tracking and brings that hit chance up to several tens of percentsGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2420
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:14:00 -
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Given Raiden's mastery of PvP in EVE Online I am sure that they will adapt to this new envirhahahahahaha "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
453
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:15:00 -
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Heh |
LeMoose
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:15:00 -
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i will take a long hard look if i keep playing eve i will most likly unsub all my accounts |
NIJofleyUK
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
6
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:15:00 -
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conqueror2006 wrote:CCP
YOU KEEP DOING WHAT GOONS WANT.
THIS GAME IS REACHING THE END.
FOR ME YOU WILL NEVER RECEIVE ONE MORE PERSON.
AND I THINK IS TIME TO THINKING IN LEAVE THIS GAME, BECAUSE IS NOT A CLEAN GAME.
I HOPE EVEYONE STOP PLAYING THIS GAME, AND YOU CAN KEEP WITH YOUR FRIENDS.
You forgot one thing!!!
EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO... EMO...
Did I miss anything ??? I BELIEVE IN THIS ---> (---------) -á:: -áWhat you dont see anything? -áPfft!! |
Rachael Tyrelll
Dynatech Intergalactical Trading Ltd.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:16:00 -
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No, I was serious ... take subcaps the ability to harm structures and I am fine with the change ...
AND rebalance moongoo
Until then I cannot even imagine what the Mittani is doing to make you give him all he demands ...
And no, I am no raden. alt, AND I do not hava a titan, but this is a slap in the face for all Allliances and corps who worked years to get Supers and titans. these ships do not fall out of the ble sky, you know? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5470
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:16:00 -
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LeMoose wrote:i will take a long hard look if i keep playing eve i will most likly unsub all my accounts Excellent. Can you contract all your stuff? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2420
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:16:00 -
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Dan Massell wrote:Emily Heapy wrote:Dank Man wrote:Wow, ccp you must love goons and blobs. because this nerf make the bigger subcap blob win all fights, congrats mittens and goons, you cried enough on the forums and welped enough fleets into capital weapons that you got what you wanted, a capital weapon shield! gg. Now wipe those tears Mister. Every cloud and all that, at least now you will learn that PvP is more than just Log on titan > Slam head against keyboard and pwn everything. You may even learn some kills now!!!! Regards Emily p.s. I will buy your titan, 30b isk ready i know. because you know lots about PVP because zergling 1600 man fleet across entire region is real PVP. the ONLY thing smaller alliances have against nonsense like this kind of a blob was until now to grow some balls and deploy trillions of ISK on the battlefield and try to even the odds. But that's not real PVP. I know. CCP Grayscale man... stop embarrassing yourself here saying we don't have time to really deal with this the way it should be. we have no resources for that so we going to deploy the most significant change that will most likely help remove number of alliances from the map without any serious thinking. we will finish this later when goons online is completed. Until then all of you who spent 120bil buying and fitting a tit go and spend 30bil more so you can get your lock time to around 45 sec. Its just disrespectful.
Tell me all about how Raiden is a small alliance "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
491
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:16:00 -
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Dan Massell wrote: that will most likely help remove number of alliances from the map without any serious thinking.
LOL who cares. If they can't defend their space properly without titanblobbing the enemy, maybe they deserve to lose it? Vote for The Mittani http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=438 |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5746
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:17:00 -
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Just gonna lean back here and enjoy this thread, don't mind me folks~ The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Trytus Tycho
Black Lion Brigade Tragedy.
7
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:17:00 -
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Chad VanGaalen wrote:CCP doesn't seem to be capable of learning from the fact that hastily-made changes to not a balanced game make.
1) Stop ******* around with noobships and other ridiculous changes. 2) Instead of constantly repeating that supers and titans need to be re-tooled, get off your asses and do something about it. 3) Keep catering to the tears of Goons. You're great at it.
Seriously, your entire post of discarded changes reeks of laziness.
Drake, MWD fit with T2 Heavies and 2x LSE: 3.16k signature Archon: 2.92k signature
This game is going to hell.
Why do people keeping quoting this **** as if it has any meaning? Last I checked, sig radius wasn't the only stat that affected hit chance.
Drake MWD fit with 2 nanos and Claymore links: 1.35 km/s Archon in Siege: 0m/s
Battleship guns can't track frigates burning at 3 km/s even with the sig bloom, why should Titans track subcaps burning at 1.35?
And why is this a shock to anyone? If CCP intended Titans to hit subcaps they would never have removed DD's ability to hit them. WTF is the difference between DD'ing a subcap and blaaping it with XL lasers?
Calm down bittervets, you can still do drive by doomsdays. |
Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
113
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:19:00 -
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. |
Iniquita
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
34
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:20:00 -
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Lets break the game as it stands now so titans dont continue breaking the game in the future, I like the part where this completely fucks over people with a significant titan presence in their fleets. This is a rash decision making titans effectively useless until you have time to address rebalancing titans. So mothball your titans, let goons take over the north and wait because we promise we'll make them good again in the future?
I really hope you will consider holding off on this rash change until you have to properly address the titan role in fleets. |
Pallidum Treponema
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
48
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:20:00 -
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Bashe Zor wrote:Anyone who thinks titans don't need a balancing pass has never had his pod headshotted by one, after his moving BC was already destroyed by one. Think it's only drakes? Think again. I have lossmails in canes with titans on top as well.
While supercaps do need a balancing pass, specifically regarding proper counters to supercaps, I have to say this: Locking a pod takes me 28 seconds. If you still have a pod on the field after 28 seconds, you are probably not even moving, so you have zero transversal. Zero transversal means that any turret ship will kill you. Stop failing at EVE.
If your moving BC is popped by titans, you're either in a drake (high signature, guess what!) and possibly MWDing (EVEN HIGHER signature!). If you are moving with low transversal, which automatically happens if you orbit an anchor, or if you MWD, you will get killed by titans.
Learn how to fly your ship rather than blindly relying on FCs that also cannot fly their ships. Back when I started playing, all good PVPers knew about how to maximize their transversal so as not to become targets of much larger ships. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2588
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:20:00 -
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Jarnobi wrote:Congatz CCP, you have made yourself look like a fu***** re****, and keep kissing Mittani a**
End off rage... i dont think this will be the end of the rage |
Chad VanGaalen
Knights Of Divinity Vera Cruz Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:21:00 -
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Trytus Tycho wrote:
Why do people keeping quoting this **** as if it has any meaning? Last I checked, sig radius wasn't the only stat that affected hit chance.
Drake MWD fit with 2 nanos and Claymore links: 1.35 km/s Archon in Siege: 0m/s
Battleship guns can't track frigates burning at 3 km/s even with the sig bloom, why should Titans track subcaps burning at 1.35?
And why is this a shock to anyone? If CCP intended Titans to hit subcaps they would never have removed DD's ability to hit them. WTF is the difference between DD'ing a subcap and blaaping it with XL lasers?
Calm down bittervets, you can still do drive by doomsdays.
Archons don't Siege, but nice try I guess.
Damage Control Podcast www.realmenhulltank.com |
Iniquita
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
34
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:21:00 -
[169] - Quote
Lets break the game as it stands now so titans dont continue breaking the game in the future, I like the part where this completely fucks over people with a significant titan presence in their fleets. This is a rash decision making titans effectively useless until you have time to address rebalancing titans. So mothball your titans, let goons take over the north and wait because we promise we'll make them good again in the future?
I really hope you will consider holding off on this rash change until you have to properly address the titan role in fleets. |
Dank Man
FinFleet Raiden.
38
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:21:00 -
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Don't own a super, used to want to, now I see less of a point to owning one then ever before, it used to be that you would own one and it was a force multiplier, so it would be like having 20+ BS on your side. You had to spend months owning and defending sov to build and own, not to mention the time training and getting the minerals for building these things. And keeping them secret/defended against everyone who would see this as a target. You nerfed supers less then 1 year ago? So they could not log off, and took away 10% of their tank. Since then you we have seen how many true capital fights and engagements(hint not many), to see how these changes have worked? I can tell you game devs working with goons to make a game more goon (read zerg/blob) friendly is not the right direction. Lol at all the comments saying im tearing, i dont own a titan (or any super), and im sure I will be fine, and im sure raiden will be fine, i dont blame anybody else for talking because of all the goon yelling and harassing that they pull on these forums. LOL at all the comments so far, obvious terrible nerf is obvious terrible nerf. |
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Tector
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:22:00 -
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Fellow Goons we should be kinder to these aggrieved titan pilots. I'd be pretty upset too if I spent several thousand dollars on an internet spaceship or months botting like mad to afford one. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1798
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:22:00 -
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LeMoose wrote:i will take a long hard look if i keep playing eve i will most likly unsub all my accounts
If everybody who self-identifies as a Titan Pilot were to quit over this the game would improve 1000%. All of the people coming back now that we have Eve Online again instead of Supercaps Online will more than make up for them. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
muhuh Aihaken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:22:00 -
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EVE Online more like The Mittani online. |
Innominate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:22:00 -
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I am greatly enjoying all of the "CCP NERFING MAH TITAN" alt posts. Your ship is broken and you know it.
It consistently surprises me how much trouble people have looking at a gameplay mechanic from an objective viewpoint, instead only ever seeing how it affects them. Yes, a titan nerf is bad for the alliances that have built their fleets around the broken titan mechanics, but the titan mechanics are objectively bad from a game design perspective.
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Engad Tanon
Enterprise Estonia Northern Coalition.
3
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:23:00 -
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Mayby some CCp emplyoers have time start find new job. Leave the titans alone. You have been nerfed them enough. Why the F*** i need investmen iks and my time to get big touys when u will come with goon tears and insolvency and just nerf them again without any good long term planning.
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Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
29
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:23:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:needed to resolve the specific issue (titans performing excessively well against subcaps in certain circumstances)
(low transversal at optimal ranges)
CCP Greyscale wrote: XL turret tracking halvedGÇÜ s-û-¦ge module track-ûng penalty removed
You realise what this does to Moros right? And how people use them?
CCP Greyscale wrote: Titans reduced to 3 maximum locked targets, and base scan resolution reduced to 5
So just being able to track subcaps isn't enough, you have to make it harder to lock and kill anything at the same time? Why wasn't the halving of tracking enough of a change?
CCP Greyscale wrote: Changes considered and discarded:
(I'm expecting at least three people to not read the word "discarded" and make angry posts about something in this section. C'est la vie.)
Titans can't lock subcaps at all
Guaranteed effective solution, but we considered it too hacky and restrictive.
Adding a "minimum sig radius" attribute to turrets, below which damage would fall off regardless of tracking
Too big a change and more technical work than we actually needed to solve the problem.
Hahaha. I'll be honest I was expecting the first one to make it.
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NiM Cal
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:24:00 -
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Selling early tickets for the "nerf tracking dreads and sentry carriers" bandwagon, get on quick while team goon are too smug to notice.
Fatcats and Slowcats, thy day has come. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
197
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:24:00 -
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inb4 evoke nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein nein One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:26:00 -
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Ruby Lionheart wrote:Andski wrote:So which one of those is the titan? Oh yeah, the one that kills rock, paper and scissors Not if the rock is dreads or sc's ;) 70 bil ship, > 100mil isk ship, but if you had brouth like 50 dreads you whuld have killed some titans and stil got out on top whould you not?
Drop 50 dreads on 25 titans.
Tell us how it went. |
Dank Man
FinFleet Raiden.
38
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:26:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Dan Massell wrote: that will most likely help remove number of alliances from the map without any serious thinking.
LOL who cares. If they can't defend their space properly without titanblobbing the enemy, maybe they deserve to lose it?
yeah its way better to defend space the goon way, tell everyone they know to come to a cynojammed system in rifters so it lags so bad nobody can get in without dying before they can warp off... i like your strat bro |
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