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Chu Ran
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.14 10:56:00 -
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Just by looking around the sell/buy forums, it looks like the Obelisk is highly favored as a freighter, any particular reason? It seems the Charon has more cargo space. Is it due to the fact that the best T1 industrial ship is the Iteron V and that's a logical progression up to the Obelisk?
Also, which freighter and/or Jump freighter do you personally use/prefer and why?
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.06.14 11:06:00 -
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Iteron 5 is arguably the 'best' tech 1 hauler and it leads up to the obelisk, thats why it's so popular. Charon and Crane/Bustard are very good as well though.
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Dimosthenis
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Posted - 2008.06.14 11:10:00 -
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Iteron V is the reason you see so many obelisks, however, I went with the providence since the amarr t2 hauler has the 2nd largest cargo space - the itV beats it when you use cargo rigs, and the resists give it a little buffer. The cargo space of freighters really isn't worth training another races industrial to 5 to be honest. Make your decision based on their t1 and t2 transports, and in this case Amarr (transport) and Minmatar (blockade runner) are best.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:04:00 -
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Itty5 meant lots of people have Gallente Industrial 5, above and beyond 'normal racial variance'.
Freighters/JFs are really very similar indeed, so I really can't say any of 'em are particularly 'better'. If you were starting from scratch, I'd maybe go toward the Charon/Rhea, simply because they're the biggest. The other stats of the freighter... well, don't make all that big a difference. They'll all fat, slow and vulnerable. Some are slightly less slow. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.06.14 16:14:00 -
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No contest: the Charon is the best freighter. It has 0.43 agility vs. 0.5 for all the others, so despite having the greatest mass it gets into warp second fastest (just a fraction of a second behind the Fenrir), as well as having the best capacity.
The only downside is that the Caldari transports aren't as good as the other races'. My research services Mineral compression for carrier/Rorqual pilots |
Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.14 18:06:00 -
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Providence, because you're going to be looking at the damn thing for hours on end just to get across a system. Might as well do it in style.
-Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.06.14 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Providence, because you're going to be looking at the damn thing for hours on end just to get across a system. Might as well do it in style.
-Liang
There is this thing, called 'autopilot'
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.06.14 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Liang Nuren Providence, because you're going to be looking at the damn thing for hours on end just to get across a system. Might as well do it in style.
-Liang
There is this thing, called 'autopilot'
I used to use autopilot. The 15th time I got murdered by pirates I stopped doing that.
As a side note, given the high EHP a freighter has, how common are suicide ganks? Seems the freighter would have to be carrying something REALLY valuable to make it worth the effort.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.06.14 20:23:00 -
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Freighter is safe up to about a bil in droppables i'd say, but the ganks are rare. If you travel outside peak hours and fly manually in the hotspots (being .5/.6 systems between trade hubs) you shouldn't get killed.
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Matalino
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.14 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Providence, because you're going to be looking at the damn thing for hours on end just to get across a system. Might as well do it in style.
That and the Amarr transport ships offer the largest capacity and best fitting options.
And the Prorator isn't bad looking either.
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.14 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino That and the Amarr transport ships offer the largest capacity and best fitting options.
And the Prorator isn't bad looking either.
I really like the way the Prorator looks...
-Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved. |
KingOzar
Brute Strength THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.14 21:19:00 -
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I fly both the Providence and the Obelisk. I personally prefer the Providence, because it looks cool and it warps fast (Relatively). I am training up the Charon for other reasons, but as my choice, it's the Providence all the way. Plus, when you get into jump freighters, the Ark is amazing.
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Kuzya Morozov
L8L8L8
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Posted - 2008.06.14 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Freighter is safe up to about a bil in droppables i'd say, but the ganks are rare. If you travel outside peak hours and fly manually in the hotspots (being .5/.6 systems between trade hubs) you shouldn't get killed.
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Salpad
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Posted - 2008.06.15 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus Itty5 meant lots of people have Gallente Industrial 5, above and beyond 'normal racial variance'.
Freighters/JFs are really very similar indeed, so I really can't say any of 'em are particularly 'better'. If you were starting from scratch, I'd maybe go toward the Charon/Rhea, simply because they're the biggest. The other stats of the freighter... well, don't make all that big a difference. They'll all fat, slow and vulnerable. Some are slightly less slow.
I'm in a Charon now, even though it would have been easier for me to train for the Gallente Freighter (due to having skillz for Iteron MkV), but if I could re-do my decision, I'd be very intersted in hearing about the "slightly less slow" part. Freighters are mind-bogglingly slow. Someone who has never flown one can't imagine how slow they are at aligning.
So if one of the other three is noticably less slow, I'd really like to hear about it.
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Beca Fenrir
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Posted - 2008.06.15 01:20:00 -
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Fenrir....cause its named after me
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Shereza
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Posted - 2008.06.15 07:50:00 -
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I prefer the providence because training caldari industrial 5'd suck and it looks almost as cool as the charon, and looks a lot classier.
Besides that, I trained my primary alt to amarr industrial 5 because I wanted her to be pure amarr ships and then I noticed how much more I could haul in the iteron 5.
Heh, there's the irony, I prefer the providence but I could have 2 obelisk pilots in real short order. ____________________
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Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2008.06.15 08:33:00 -
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I personaly like the Minmatar tech 1 freighter and the Nomad ( Minmatar Jump Freighter ) with maxed skills the Nomad gets 336k m3 cargo room and I have to say that the Nomad is no joke when it comes to decloaking and aligning and going to warp. I swear its almost faster than a battleship. And as everyone says "Speed is Living"
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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.15 08:55:00 -
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Providence - because it is a rebel transport from Empire Strikes Back... Style isn't a question of life or death, it's more important than that.
Fenrir - for its looks and speed to warp. --
Originally by: cordy
Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
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Naomi Knight
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Posted - 2008.06.15 09:47:00 -
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Matar freighters are the best + prowler ^^ but amarrs are good too . I prefer to use tech2 haulers as tech1s pop too easily and high sec pirates are so many nowadays.
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