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LetsDoThis
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: LetsDoThis on 01/06/2008 11:26:39 Fitting So thats the basic fitting, no implants needed, no rigs, and no fitting problems even with all tech 2. An ok(not great) tank. Pretty awesome dps, just below a blasterthron with a full rack of neutrons and ogre IIs.
Only problem that is obvious to me is the range. Is very short range. Im gonna use to take out people that fall for my bait alt. So hopefully 3 webs is enough to keep whatever in range. What do you think? Whats a better setup?
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Harrana
omen.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:33:00 -
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That would die fast to a decent Blasterthron pilot. Put rigs on and it would make a significant difference...but still die.
Also, it relies heavily on drones, which negates its usefullness in some situations when compared to a Megathron (i.e. gates in low-sec). ---------- This space is for rent. That makes me a rent boy. Contact me for details. |
LetsDoThis
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:33:00 -
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6x electron blaster cannon II's medium cap booster II 100mn MWD II 24km warp disruptor 2x 10km webbers 3x hardener IIs exp/therm/kin DC II LAR II 2x mag stab IIs
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AKULA UrQuan
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:34:00 -
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What is up with this fad of putting medium cap boosters on battleships?
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Valandril
Epic Fail Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:36:00 -
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Yes, domi can in theory outperform megathron in mean of dps and tank (shieldtanked blasterdomi is creepy) but in practice i will choose blasterthron over blasterdomi. ---
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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan What is up with this fad of putting medium cap boosters on battleships?
ITs nto bad idea if you are in a battleship taht barely uses cap, like a plated typhoon for example. Saves a lot of PG ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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TimMc
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:47:00 -
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I prefer mine.
[Dominix, Blaster Gank] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Ogre II x5
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Harrana
omen.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:47:00 -
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And 2x Med Cap boosters provide more cap per second, and use less PG, at the expense of CPU and a med slot. So on ships like the Domi, with a PG defficit and lots of meds, its perfect. ---------- This space is for rent. That makes me a rent boy. Contact me for details. |
Raging Knight
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:49:00 -
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glass domi \o/
that tank will be eaten alive by a blasterthon, especially if its a plate/neutron fit and a medium cap booster wont be enough to keep you running. You have more chance of killing a mega in a domi with neuts and a really solid tank!
That said, glass domi's are fun, just scrap your tank and fit neutron blasters, mag stabs and whatever fitting mods you require, best damage dealer in a gang, you will be suprised how long you live
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LetsDoThis
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan What is up with this fad of putting medium cap boosters on battleships?
For most tier 1 BS it is either that or plate tank. And yeah if I were to platetank + trimark, im already spending so much on riggings whats another 10mil on the mega.
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TimMc
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Raging Knight glass domi \o/
that tank will be eaten alive by a blasterthon, especially if its a plate/neutron fit and a medium cap booster wont be enough to keep you running. You have more chance of killing a mega in a domi with neuts and a really solid tank!
That said, glass domi's are fun, just scrap your tank and fit neutron blasters, mag stabs and whatever fitting mods you require, best damage dealer in a gang, you will be suprised how long you live
Like this?
[Dominix, Super Gank] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 ECM Burst II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Ogre II x5
1277 dps on eft.
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LetsDoThis
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:59:00 -
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Oh and im not talking about dueling a mega with a domi, sorry for any confusion. Comparing the two for straight up gank not worried so much about survival.
Gonna have a bait-tackler cheapo maller and if its something too much I wont bite.
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Fuazzole
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Posted - 2008.06.01 12:12:00 -
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It is cheep DPS, but 1000dps can be tanked for 10min, were 1300 will crumple a tank in 1-2min
I think 2x EANMII is better then kin+therm hardner
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AKULA UrQuan
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.01 12:14:00 -
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Go neut domi then. Have the bait alt use ECM drones if possible. Jamed and with no cap....you can almost go AFK while the drones do the dirty work.
Anything packing a single heavy neut, or two, will turn the tables on your posted setup quick.
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Kano Sekor
modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.06.01 12:39:00 -
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I think a lot of these high dps fits seems to assume the enemy will sit still just trying to dish out a lower damage and just well do nothing more.
I mean alot of ships even if webbed can stay out of the blasters tracking speed and drones are poppable esp. heavies so i can not see these ships utilizing its full gankness potential in a lot of cases. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Edriahn
Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.06.01 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
1277 dps on eft.
Mega will have this DPS with twice the tank, so I don't see any point in such setups...
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KayaYautja
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Edriahn
Originally by: TimMc
1277 dps on eft.
Mega will have this DPS with twice the tank, so I don't see any point in such setups...
Are you talking with, or without Implants. 'Cause i only get about 1050 - 1100 from my Mega with BS 5, T2 Ogres, Drone Interfacing 5, Blaster Spec 4 and Two MFS. ---
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Raging Knight
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.01 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: LetsDoThis Oh and im not talking about dueling a mega with a domi, sorry for any confusion. Comparing the two for straight up gank not worried so much about survival.
Gonna have a bait-tackler cheapo maller and if its something too much I wont bite.
Then your set-up is pretty good, its got enough tank to survive nothing too heavy,and ofc you have good DPS, however you will have cap problems, might be worth sorting that problem out by using your rig slots. I would be tempted to fit 2x ancillary current rigs, that will give you enough PG to fit a heavy cap booster and a hybrid burst rig. So your getting more DPS and more Cap
Oh and that set-up above.. yes thats pretty much it
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Edriahn
Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.06.01 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: KayaYautja bla-bla and Two MFS.
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Tanox
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Posted - 2008.06.01 15:19:00 -
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It's great that there are so many ways to fit the dominix - What are grand little whale it is. A setup that I have been toying with, and kind of like, is the following:
HIGH: 4 x EBC 2 X IBC
MID:
1 x Warpdrive II 1 x Web (good named) 1 x medium cap. booster II 1 x Disruptor II 1 x ECM, SB or whatever takes your fancy
LOW: 1 x MFS 2 x EANM II 3 x 1600 plates (Best named) 1 x DC
RIGS. 3 x trimark
Drones: Same old mix.
That is a lovely toy with over 1.000 DPS and 142.110 EHP.
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DARTHxFREE
Double Indemnity
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Posted - 2008.06.01 16:21:00 -
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for cheep DPS without sacraficing sex apeal
Reinforced Bulkhead + Damage Control works well for the rigless dominix /join Cheeze & Whine Club
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Satura
Utterly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.06.01 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: LetsDoThis Edited by: LetsDoThis on 01/06/2008 11:26:39 Fitting So thats the basic fitting, no implants needed, no rigs, and no fitting problems even with all tech 2. An ok(not great) tank. Pretty awesome dps, just below a blasterthron with a full rack of neutrons and ogre IIs.
Only problem that is obvious to me is the range. Is very short range. Im gonna use to take out people that fall for my bait alt. So hopefully 3 webs is enough to keep whatever in range. What do you think? Whats a better setup?
Not bad for dps, but don't engage megathrons in that. It will melt.
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Dreadpilot Roberts
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.02 00:50:00 -
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flew blaster domi plated up 4-5 times. Lost them all :). For 1v1 its uber. However 2 x BS will def eat u alive. On a neut/nos setup running dual LAR tho u might stand a better chance. It's got great staying ability, but when solo-ing ... you just know you'll get blobbed and blobbed again. In a gang it's a great dps dealer, better than a mega imo because of it's versatility with drones.
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z0de
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.06.02 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dreadpilot Roberts flew blaster domi plated up 4-5 times. Lost them all :). For 1v1 its uber. However 2 x BS will def eat u alive.
Is there any BS that could win against two other BS's assuming no Intel before hand.
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Oedus Caro
Cross Roads Ouroboros Cross Combine
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Posted - 2008.06.02 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: z0de
Originally by: Dreadpilot Roberts flew blaster domi plated up 4-5 times. Lost them all :). For 1v1 its uber. However 2 x BS will def eat u alive.
Is there any BS that could win against two other BS's assuming no Intel before hand.
Eidolon?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.02 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: z0de
Originally by: Dreadpilot Roberts flew blaster domi plated up 4-5 times. Lost them all :). For 1v1 its uber. However 2 x BS will def eat u alive.
Is there any BS that could win against two other BS's assuming no Intel before hand.
depends on what they are, if it happens to be 2 ravens tanked for kin/therm and I'm in an amarr bs, or if they have 5mil sp each
but if everyones well fit and well skilled, then sounds like doom for mr 1
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Dreadpilot Roberts
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.02 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: z0de
Originally by: Dreadpilot Roberts flew blaster domi plated up 4-5 times. Lost them all :). For 1v1 its uber. However 2 x BS will def eat u alive.
Is there any BS that could win against two other BS's assuming no Intel before hand.
Phoon, Domi, Gank Mega with trimarks. I'm not saying they have a big chance to win, they have a remote chance to win, and a better chance to survive the fight, as in gtfo/dock/jump-out :)
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Alowishus
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.02 06:32:00 -
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The Domi is good. Because a ship that costs 40% can beat it in a 1v1 is not a reason not to use the Domi. It's fun and cheap.
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Miss KillSome
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.06.02 08:59:00 -
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First setup is awfull. Why:
if u can select who u fight, then dont fit active tank. If u loose LAR and fit totally buffered tank, u can fit more dps to it and cap wont be a problem if u are not against something with neutralizers.
I would suggest that u fit buffer tank, 2x 1600mm plate, 2x eanm, DCU II, MFS II, u will probably be station camping, so drop a mwd, u wont be needing it anyway coz u will engage targets close to your maller alt, so u just warp to him and web the target. with this said, u can fit neutrons which should increase your dps quite alot. and since u get one mid slot from dropping mwd, u can always fit some omni drone module for better tracking of your ogres II..
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Ferrosa
Four Rings Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.02 09:21:00 -
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My excellent domi setup which will pwn yours... Since yours will only last for like, 44 seconds...
High: - 5x heavy neutron II (yes, medium guns, they do as much dps as your electron cannons) - 1x remote rep or 1x neutralizer
Medium: - 1x 100MN mwd - 2x Heavy Cap booster (teh pwn, plenty of storage in domi for charges) - Point - Web / sensor booster
Low: - 2x LAR II (excellent repping, enough cap to last long time if you micro-manage it well) - 1x DCU II - 1x 1600 plate - 1x Kin / Therm / Explosive active hardener
Drones: - 5x Ogre II (top damage, good HP, live longer) - 5x Berserker II (top expl. damage, faster) - 5x Acolyte II (for EM damage on little frigs) - 5x Warrior II (to chase fast inties) - 5x EC-300 (to chicken out of 1v1 fights ^^) - 5x hammerhead II (good medium damage drones, kills AFs very fast
Rigs: - 1x CCC (extra cap regen, first rig gives good boost) - 1x Extra armor rep (for those 2 reppers, dont use repping cycle rigs, they will cause your reppers to rep faster,but also drain your cap faster... therefore, extra repping > faster repping, you have a buffer, no problem)
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Dreadpilot Roberts
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.02 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ferrosa My excellent domi setup which will pwn yours... Since yours will only last for like, 44 seconds...
High: - 5x heavy neutron II (yes, medium guns, they do as much dps as your electron cannons) - 1x remote rep or 1x neutralizer
Medium: - 1x 100MN mwd - 2x Heavy Cap booster (teh pwn, plenty of storage in domi for charges) - Point - Web / sensor booster
Low: - 2x LAR II (excellent repping, enough cap to last long time if you micro-manage it well) - 1x DCU II - 1x 1600 plate - 1x Kin / Therm / Explosive active hardener
Drones: - 5x Ogre II (top damage, good HP, live longer) - 5x Berserker II (top expl. damage, faster) - 5x Acolyte II (for EM damage on little frigs) - 5x Warrior II (to chase fast inties) - 5x EC-300 (to chicken out of 1v1 fights ^^) - 5x hammerhead II (good medium damage drones, kills AFs very fast
Rigs: - 1x CCC (extra cap regen, first rig gives good boost) - 1x Extra armor rep (for those 2 reppers, dont use repping cycle rigs, they will cause your reppers to rep faster,but also drain your cap faster... therefore, extra repping > faster repping, you have a buffer, no problem)
Uhm ... no they dont. They suck damage-wise compared to large electron blaster cannons t2. The dmg output will be 40% smaller than using a full rack of electron blaster cannons.
WHO uses CCC rigs on pvp ships anyway, xcept for capitals ???
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.06.02 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 02/06/2008 09:48:24 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 02/06/2008 09:47:47
Originally by: Dreadpilot Roberts
Originally by: Ferrosa
Substandard dominix setup, snipped.
Uhm ... no they dont. They suck damage-wise compared to large electron blaster cannons t2. The dmg output will be 40% smaller than using a full rack of electron blaster cannons.
WHO uses CCC rigs on pvp ships anyway, xcept for capitals ???
Also, it looks like someone needs to train Energy Menagement I and Controlled Bursts I. Two heavy cap boosters AND a CCC rig - don't you find it a bit excessive?
Btw, Dread is right, larges do a lot more DPS, check the ship bonuses for starters. Ofc, grid-wise you'd be very very hard pressed to fit large electrons without a PG rig.
I'd say to fit a ECCM on the last mid instead of dual cap boosters, with the Falcons as common as they are now, you might as well make them use two racial jammers instead of one to lock you down fairly reliably.
It helps a lot, particularly when you're overheating it (and it can whitstand a LOT of heating, no reason not to keep it heated from start to finish in a fight with Falcons).
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Miss KillSome
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.06.02 10:11:00 -
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@^
drop a plate for eanm II..
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2008.06.02 10:18:00 -
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My Megathron's ugly sister:
6x Electron II
MWD/Web/Disrupter/2x Medium Injectors
2x LARII EANM II Thermal II/Kinetic II/Explosive II DCU II
2x Grid Rigs 1x Aux Nano Pump
Ogre II's, plus mix of whatever
Haven't used it since the change to EM damage, thinking about revising it. It roughly deals 900 DPS and tanks about the same. --------------
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.06.02 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Karade My Megathron's ugly sister:
6x Electron II
MWD/Web/Disrupter/2x Medium Injectors
2x LARII EANM II Thermal II/Kinetic II/Explosive II DCU II
2x Grid Rigs 1x Aux Nano Pump
Ogre II's, plus mix of whatever
Haven't used it since the change to EM damage, thinking about revising it. It roughly deals 900 DPS and tanks about the same.
Calling the Dominix a 'little sister' brings the wrong sorts of image.
Otherwise, nice setup.
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Damares
The Devils Brigade The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.02 12:48:00 -
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blaster mega would problably do this job better, only thing i like domi more for is spider tanking. and that kinda doesnt work when your solo
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Pirokobo
Orion Academy THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2008.06.02 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: z0de Is there any BS that could win against two other BS's assuming no Intel before hand.
Depends. Does one of them have cargo expanders?
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2008.06.02 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Gabriel Karade My Megathron's ugly sister:
6x Electron II
MWD/Web/Disrupter/2x Medium Injectors
2x LARII EANM II Thermal II/Kinetic II/Explosive II DCU II
2x Grid Rigs 1x Aux Nano Pump
Ogre II's, plus mix of whatever
Haven't used it since the change to EM damage, thinking about revising it. It roughly deals 900 DPS and tanks about the same.
Calling the Dominix a 'little sister' brings the wrong sorts of image.
Otherwise, nice setup.
Yeah but it has a kind of æmehÆ factor that I canÆt quite put my finger on. If the Megathron is a sleek Aston, then this is a Toyota Hilux... it's butt ugly and slow (at killing things)
Not saying it doesnÆt do itÆs job, because it does it rather well, just æmehÆ --------------
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Vyktor Abyss
EnTech
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Posted - 2008.06.02 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 02/06/2008 18:25:20 3x Heavy neut I, 3x Med NOS I
100MWD I, WD I, 3x LSE I
DCU I, 6x Reinforced Bulkhead I
5x Ogre I, 5x Beserker I
72k effective hitpoints, and you'll be able to cap out enemy BS no problem.
Its better than most of the previous Domis for soloing at a cost maybe 10-20M including 100% insurance.
You can also shout about what big balls you have being a hull tanker if for some crazy reason you do lose. Oh, and it will challenge Megathron pilots too since you've enough hp buffer to cap them out for most of the fight.
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2008.06.02 19:35:00 -
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