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White Ronin
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Posted - 2008.05.29 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zorda /Issue supported
On the topic of Drones, I'd like the whole weapons group revisited by CCP. How come we only have three modules, none of which T2 I might add, affecting drone stats when everything else has 9234 (roughly) modules?
From another thread about drone implants and this got me thinking.
Drone systems are so out of date with everything else. We have 2 mid and one high slot module and that is all. The introduction of the faction drones was great but how are supposed to get to the areas where they are through the choke points and gate camps. And they arent that good to begin with for that kinda effort.
Drones have been marginalized to be on every ship regardless of race for the most part. Their ease of destruction makes them the weakest weapons system out there because no other system can be defeated so easily as them yet they arent that powerful.
Can the CSM please find out what the direction of drones as a primary weapons system are? If ccp does not intend to treat drones with the same consideration as other weapons system then please let us know. This is in regard to introduction of drone ships, implants and modules. This also is in regard to their marginalization by adding them to EVERY ship being produced.
If this is the case then those of us who are focusing on drones can start focusing on other weapons systems or focus on what seems to be the most effective use for support roles of drones (ecm drones from blaster boats and such).
As it stand now your options for gun boats and missile ships is alot more then drones by a dozen fold.
What about the obvious combination of drones and ew? And why are 2/3rds of drone mods in the mid slots that EVERY ship needs for defense or pvp when drone ships can give up high slots much easier and still be competative?
Are drones goin to be givin some attention and expanded upon or are they goin to continue to be the red headed step child of weapons system?
AND BEFORE EVERYONE COMES HERE SAYING HOW POWERFUL THEY ARE AND HOW THEY ARE EVERYWHERE THAT IS CAUSE CCP PUT THEM ON ALMOST EVERY SHIP BEING MADE TODAY AS A SUPPORT SYSTEM. IT IS CURRENTLY THE EXPECTED ADD-ON THE THE THE SHIPS BEING RELEASED TODAY. If they would have shown some restraint then they wouldnt be so.... disposable.
That is why they are so easy to kill btw. They are extremely powerful as a secondary system and in that role you need to be able to destroy them given their versatility. This role that ccp has given them has also made them too dangerous as a very primary system in many cases with very little added ability.
So as you can see their role and purpose has been thought out before I asked this question. But those of us who focus on drones because of our love of them (mine from rp and lore) are getting the short end of the stick.
So CSM, can you tell us what is gunna be done with them? I am not asking you to make a change I am only asking you for some information on the design intentions of ccp for drones. Even a little insight into what ccp feels are design hurdles would be great so that we can maybe try to help solve the problems.
Thank you.
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Pliauga
Militek Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.29 04:54:00 -
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Yes please.
---------- DRONE love rulez!! 'mkay?! LONG range/"OUT OF SYSTEM" artillery |
Katini Ellegahn
Capital Development and Security Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.29 05:48:00 -
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Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:25:00 -
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/signed
We have a tracking guide, we have a missile guide, a drone guide would be the first step :-) --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed ! |
White Ronin
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Posted - 2008.05.30 09:06:00 -
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Just to clarify. No new things added. Just ask what they plan to do with this *****d out weapons system.
Please.
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White Ronin
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:09:00 -
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*points at the other thread about drone mods not being comparative to other mods in game.
*points at the various issues concerning drone implementation from ships to implants to mods.
Anyone see a theme here?
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: White Ronin *points at the other thread about drone mods not being comparative to other mods in game.
*points at the various issues concerning drone implementation from ships to implants to mods.
Anyone see a theme here?
You're a drone nut? ------------------ Fix the forums! |
White Ronin
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:38:00 -
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Yes.
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Rashonna
2H Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.31 00:32:00 -
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Orontes Ovasi
COGNET SpaceSystems Ltd Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.05.31 00:49:00 -
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signed
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Abel Tasman
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.31 17:28:00 -
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Malverious Prime
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.06.01 02:00:00 -
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I agree...
Apart from the recent introduction of faction drones the only loving drones have got in the last two years has been some improvements on drone AI and some extra nifty interface improvements.
Then again... drones have a pretty stand alone set of skillz... and the other weapon systems only have the single unique weapon upgrade, albeit that they do have named and t2 variants... I think with the introduction of named and t2 variants of the drone upgrades, the drone-loving community would be quite happy for quite sometime.
We have also had the introduction of EW, Logistic, and combat utility drones, so we're not that hard done by...
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White Ronin
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Posted - 2008.06.01 07:37:00 -
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Again, not wanting a change. Not wanting YOUR opinion on their use or how YOU thing ccp has treated their implementation. I am asking for someone to ask the devs about what are their intentions for drones. Are they supposed to be primary weapons systems? Will they introduce any implants for them? Will they expand on them or keep making them "secondary" or support weapons systems. And a whole lot of questions that only ccp can answer. Are drones a dead end/ support only due to lag considerations? This also includes the answer being posted for all to see.
Now if you support this question being asked please say so. If you dont want someone to ask ccp about drones say so.
Outside that there is little to discuss. Thank you.
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Zorda
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Posted - 2008.06.02 07:07:00 -
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long overdue
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EquintaZ
Snow Blind Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 07:39:00 -
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Venkul Mul
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Posted - 2008.06.02 08:17:00 -
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Hitachi Morimoto
Synthetic Light Mining Corps.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 06:20:00 -
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Apple Boy
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.27 17:50:00 -
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Osanna Fouthard
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Posted - 2008.07.27 18:33:00 -
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