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Splagada
Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.25 23:07:00 -
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We sucked, we learn.
Thanks for the fights, and damnit i had spent hours to setup that pos you killed
i get on retirement, and 2 days after you guys come... i just missed almost all of the show grr
And thanks for this overall nice report. ------
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Faekurias
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.25 23:15:00 -
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Edited by: Faekurias on 25/05/2008 23:16:02 Good and enjoyable fun was Good and Enjoyable, I presume, hence a good time- also a good post.
o7 KIAsho
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Crash 0verride
Ron inc. Capital Storm
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Posted - 2008.05.26 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Crash 0verride on 26/05/2008 00:45:29 respect on both sides for the battles, i have been keeping a keen eye on the KIA kb as an ex member, but tbh from what ive seen, there stats were never in the toilet at any point, and the flamers tht are ranting abut it being a fake contract well... so what of it is or isnt its an internet space ship game not world war its a game to be played to have fun but all the flamers tht are ranting miss this point.
nice contract eddz and nice writeup and massive respect to both KIA and hydra
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Rautha Harkonnen
Grave Diggers Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 01:48:00 -
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A corp member who was a spy for kia in my corp stated kia had been hired to attack hydra 3 weeks before bruce attack us. 1 week in between the kia assult and then bruce come up, aparently.
is this bulls**t? well, im gunna say no.
right now, i dont no what this contract was. 1. fake 2. hired by someone like "birdythebest" or "gashon" as a test. or someone in hydra who got ****ed off ?? 3. bruce or other outsider hired them to keep us busy
well regardless, i say if bruce does want to invade, BRING IT! (lol) hell, i know my corp is on standby, :P
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Garia666
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core
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Posted - 2008.05.26 06:28:00 -
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allot of text no stats.. i figure it wasnt a suc6 as otherwise the stats would hav ebeen everywhere..
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Guns nButter
The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: Guns nButter on 26/05/2008 06:44:50
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Gashon
The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rautha Harkonnen A corp member who was a spy for kia in my corp stated kia had been hired to attack hydra 3 weeks before bruce attack us. 1 week in between the kia assult and then bruce come up, aparently.
is this bulls**t? well, im gunna say no.
right now, i dont no what this contract was. 1. fake 2. hired by someone like "birdythebest" or "gashon" as a test. or someone in hydra who got ****ed off ?? 3. bruce or other outsider hired them to keep us busy
well regardless, i say if bruce does want to invade, BRING IT! (lol) hell, i know my corp is on standby, :P
OMG anybody who thinks birdy or I would have done this to ourselves and our alliance mates really needs to have their head examined.
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Guns nButter
The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 06:44:00 -
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Edited by: Guns nButter on 26/05/2008 06:45:01
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alden good
Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 06:50:00 -
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or did u gashon? is it the ultimate trick? who knows frankly WHO CARES ITS DONE
we had some fun fights agreed if they hadn't used titans their efficiency would have blown though it was kinda funny seing how fast that dam thing could align. (nano?) but ya overall good fun KIA/Daisho managed to leave a huge mess.
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Ikarushka
Research Deployment Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.26 07:35:00 -
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things I learned from this thread:
1) KIA ended contract 2) A bunch of people dislike KIA strongly for recent events 3) KIA and Hydra seemed to have fun, and both are happy about the result of the contract 4) Internetz is the serious business
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Usha Lamia
Grave Diggers Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 07:43:00 -
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I'll have to say I had much fun during this op. I was new to Hydra that very week they started and was ready for the fun. I have nothing but respect for KIA / Daisho for not one single bit of smack talk during any of this. I enjoyed the fights, I enjoyed watching them after I finally ran out of ships to fight with as well.
The only part that ****ed me off was the 2 Titans rotating the DD shots every hour like clockwork, other than that, great fight, great fun.
Oh, btw, I really had a blast with Confessor sitting off the station in a cloaker. Great cat and mouse game, haven't had that much fun in awhile!!!
Semper Fi KIA / Daisho and thanks for all the hard learned lessons, I for one needed a few of them!!!! 07
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.26 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 26/05/2008 07:45:40
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
xxxx > when bob hit pb eddz asked standings and stuff to keep some outposts there xxxx > bob refused xxxx > so we went on hydra
This would be quite hilarious if it were true. Pro tip: it's not true. :) Not even Eddz is that dilusional. -
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Armor Tank
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: Armor Tank on 26/05/2008 07:55:02 Chatlogs are true. The content, I have no idea, but I found them quite hilarious anyway
Edit: ops wrong char
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KIAEddZ
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 26/05/2008 07:45:40
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
xxxx > when bob hit pb eddz asked standings and stuff to keep some outposts there xxxx > bob refused xxxx > so we went on hydra
This would be quite hilarious if it were true. Pro tip: it's not true. :) Not even Eddz is that dilusional.
You are nnot suggesting clip faked chat logs!!!1!!11one
And I can be quite dilusional I will have you know! Just ask the mrs ;)
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KIA in game Public Channel "KIA"
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:57:00 -
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Hi,
Nice writeup as usual.
Out of interest, were Hydra involved in any of the other larger interalliance conflicts going on at this time?
ie. that someone would want to keep them too busy to take part in?
Thanks,
Taur
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Cippalippus Primus
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 26/05/2008 07:45:40
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
xxxx > when bob hit pb eddz asked standings and stuff to keep some outposts there xxxx > bob refused xxxx > so we went on hydra
This would be quite hilarious if it were true. Pro tip: it's not true. :) Not even Eddz is that dilusional.
You are nnot suggesting clip faked chat logs!!!1!!11one
And I can be quite dilusional I will have you know! Just ask the mrs ;)
Not faked But as I said, no idea if what he said is true, either. -clp
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KIAEddZ
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 26/05/2008 07:45:40
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
xxxx > when bob hit pb eddz asked standings and stuff to keep some outposts there xxxx > bob refused xxxx > so we went on hydra
This would be quite hilarious if it were true. Pro tip: it's not true. :) Not even Eddz is that dilusional.
You are nnot suggesting clip faked chat logs!!!1!!11one
And I can be quite dilusional I will have you know! Just ask the mrs ;)
Not faked But as I said, no idea if what he said is true, either.
Bo lix.
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KIA in game Public Channel "KIA"
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FellRaven
GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 11:56:00 -
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Quote: Hi,
Nice writeup as usual.
Out of interest, were Hydra involved in any of the other larger interalliance conflicts going on at this time?
ie. that someone would want to keep them too busy to take part in?
Thanks,
Taur
Yes Hydra were present in Branch but to be honest not in the sort of numbers that would be necessary to justify a diversionary attack of this type.
Regarding the success or failure of this OP I have posted previously that in order to make such a judgement you first have to know what the objective was. It is entirely possible for both parties to independently believe "Rightly" that they both achieved their objectives.
I would hazard a guess that some (there probably were others) of KIA's objectives were:
1. Cement their relationship with Daisho for the future. 2. To test their intended tactic for using Titans. 3. Give the alliance purpose after PB. 4. Fight an Opponent other than BOB (Fighting one opponent can lead to assumptions)
Now in all of these areas I would suspect KIA has achieved it's goals.
Hydra Objective was to inflict as much ISK damage on KIA as possible, while trying to avoid unneccessary losses. Now where you believe Hydra achieved their goal depends I suppose on your perspective. However from Hydra's perspective I believe we did.
I have little doubt that both Hydra and KIA made mistakes and will have taken away learning experiences from this (Hydra probably more than KIA).
KIAEddz this is not flaming post is not meant to flame KIA or Daisho in anyway (Neither was the previous). I just find this we killed more than you or we held the field measures as very 2 dimensional whereas we all know this is a multi-dimensional game.
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KIAEddZ
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: FellRaven
KIAEddz this is not flaming post is not meant to flame KIA or Daisho in anyway (Neither was the previous). I just find this we killed more than you or we held the field measures as very 2 dimensional whereas we all know this is a multi-dimensional game.
You'll not that I did not quote the K/D ratios in my original post, this was simply because they were not part of the objective given to us by the employer.
The trolls on this forum are pretty rank these days, so much so that it is almost impossible to post here as an information flow, its become a place of neigh saying and fairly immature , almost schoolground, trolling, ccp needs to adopt a far stronger hand in how it runs this particular forum or as it has been over the past 6 months, more and moreplayers will avoid it, lessening the community information flow.
The overview of our contracted goals were to make Hydra fight as much as possible in as many different scenarios as possible in the 2 week timeframe, nothing more and nothing less.
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KIA in game Public Channel "KIA"
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Lokian Marus
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Posted - 2008.05.26 14:37:00 -
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I am an alt and I approve of this thread. :)
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Le Mare
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Posted - 2008.05.26 15:17:00 -
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A lot is said of k/d ratio's. Both Hydra and KIA killboards are both freely available for perusal if such things interest you that much. From the KIA killboard, which I believe is pulled via API call from CCPs killboards. -
Carriers Killed 2 Lost 0 Battleships Killed 103 Lost 20 Command Ships Killed 5 Lost 0 Battlecruiser Killed 48 Lost 2 Heavy Interdictor Killed 10 Lost 0 Starbase Killed 16 Lost 1
These are just the high isk value losses. Whichever way you spin it seems fairly conclusive.
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FellRaven
GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: FellRaven on 26/05/2008 15:34:03 Le Mare - The sea?
1. No Corp Ticker 2. Have you included Daisho's losses? 3. Hydra's boards use an API pull too.
Like both myself and Eddz said you can only measure success against objectives. Yes undoubtably Kia/daisho came out on top in pure kill/losses. But Hydra put in a good showing particularly fighting alone against Motherships and Titans.
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Le Mare
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Posted - 2008.05.26 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: FellRaven Edited by: FellRaven on 26/05/2008 15:38:16 Edited by: FellRaven on 26/05/2008 15:34:03 Le Mare - The sea?
1. No Corp Ticker 2. Have you included Daisho's losses? 3. Hydra's boards use an API pull too.
Like both myself and Eddz said you can only measure success against objectives. Yes undoubtably Kia/daisho came out on top in pure kill/losses. But Hydra put in a good showing particularly fighting alone against Motherships and Titans.
ps. Just checked your figures! This isn't what the KIA board shows either.
1. Really? Uho. 2. No, but as I said the information is freely available. Looking at Daishos board their k/d ratio's are the same. 3. So Hydra and KIA boards should show the same. Right?
My figures are correct from here.
While I get the point that both had fun and Hydra did actually bring a fight when they could've hid, in their home systems, trying to claim any kind of k/d victory for Hydra is akin to trying to convince people left is right or black is white.
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ghost437
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.26 16:41:00 -
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Half my characters are inactive so just want to add "lol" at your "contract" report.
Stop smoking ***** everyone knows it was faked crap so why even post it and take the **** your going to get for this?
Cant be arsed to dig up the infoz and paste it but in future you might aswell paste this to your own alliance, at least then they will believe you, unlike us.
regards,
jake
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Uzuki Shootmenow
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Posted - 2008.05.26 16:52:00 -
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KiaEddz : noone cares. go back to evetv, its what you do best.
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FellRaven
GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 16:55:00 -
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Le Mare you misunderstand me. If I lasted one round with Mike Tyson even after his prime I would regard that as a victory. Like I said it all depends on you objectives
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Le Mare
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Posted - 2008.05.26 16:58:00 -
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Ok, point taken sir.
I'll relinquish this thread back to the smacktards. Carry on.
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Crash 0verride
Ron inc. Capital Storm
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Posted - 2008.05.26 17:04:00 -
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i laugh at the flamers in this thread, they have no lives go and play your internet spaceship game and let KIA enjoy theres.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.26 17:04:00 -
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Well this will come as a shocker to most of you but I honestly think KIA did very well. Most of the people smacking have no idea what it takes to do what KIA did in hostile space.
They were engaging the blobs and were very aware of what the nap fest can bring in on top of them at any point of the fight.
If they really were hired by someone or they are there just for fun makes no difference, bottom line is they shut down an alliance much bigger than them and got a great k/d ratio considering it was blob fests the entire time.
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mummmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.05.26 17:53:00 -
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out of all fake contract summarys, this sounds almost ok.
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