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Jeyson Vicious
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.06 03:44:00 -
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I don't know if hybrids are just horrible or if I'm blatantly missing something.
I'm running around in a Hyperion and I gave my right arm to get six faction 425mms and one 250mm. I even put faction ammo in and my DPS doesn't pass 300 p/s. I see people all the time talking about fits with 1000+ DPS and I'm not even close.
I only have one Gunslinger implant, I know the ship has no bonus and my relevant gunnery skills like large hybrid and surgical strike, etc. are only at 3s and 4s, but I'm not just a handful of 5% bonus increases from hitting 1,000.
So is 300 turret DPS give or take normal outside of maxed skills and a 3 billion isk ship with implants and built in bonuses or do I just need to go back to playing checkers? |

OfBalance
Caldari State
112
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Posted - 2012.03.06 03:47:00 -
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Checkers.
Content: Hard to know since you haven't told us what ammo you're shooting, what range you're shooting, what the target(s) are, or really anything else pertinent besides the fact we should all be running locator agents on you asap since you ship will be a nice target. |

stoicfaux
764
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Posted - 2012.03.06 04:38:00 -
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Are you using Magnetic Field Stabilizers? They improve damage and rate of fire.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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loki energon
Voodoo Children Workers Trade Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.06 04:54:00 -
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show us your fit, hard to tell whats wrong with the car if we cant open the hood kill em all. |

Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.03.06 05:34:00 -
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Loading the character in question into http://eveboard.com/ so we can see exactly where your at with skills would be nice. I'd have to say its a combination of low skills, improper fit and not using magstabs without seeing your char or the fit. But....
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I'm running around in a Hyperion and I gave my right arm to get six faction 425mms and one 250mm
I know the ship has no bonus and my relevant gunnery skills like large hybrid and surgical strike, etc. are only at 3s and 4s,
First pick a weapon type and stick with it, that means for the Hype, 8 of the same weapon.
Second, the Hype does have a 5 percent damage bonus per level, so you will want BS 4.
Third, gunnery support skills at 3 = crappy dps |

Jeyson Vicious
The Scope Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.06 05:42:00 -
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Okay, here goes:
Hyperion
Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Vepas' Modified Dual 250mm Railgun (Caldari Navy Iridium Charge) Republic Fleet Large Proton Smartbomb
100MN MicroWarpdrive Heavy Electrochemical Cap Booster 1 Heavy Electrochemical Cap Booster 1 Empty Empty
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System True Sansha Power Diagnostic System Reinforced Bulkheads II Co-processor II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Nanobot Accelerator I Capacitor Control Circuit I
This has my power grid at 98.9% and my CPU at 95.6%. But anyway, total DPS is 398.9. I have 4 tech 1 drones accounting for 161.6 of that, so only 237.3 is from turrets. Target range is 50-71km.
So with money spent in turrets and two Hardwires giving me a 5% and 3% damage multiplier I can't top 300 DPS from turrets. I don't have Large Hybrid or Railgun Specialization, but other skills are at 3 or 4. Going to 5 can't amount to that much more right?
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Jeyson Vicious
The Scope Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.06 05:50:00 -
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http://eveboard.com/pilot/Jeyson_Vicious |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2012.03.06 05:51:00 -
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From what I know +3 Magstabs -1 Repper -1 Smartbomb -1 Cap booster +1 100mn WD/AB Antimatter ammo.
Ofc,people here could offer more advice. |

Tauranon
Weeesearch
33
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Posted - 2012.03.06 05:53:00 -
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Its so awful it hurts the eyes.
DG are low fit requirement, low multiplier guns. thorium is mid range ammo, and is for mission purposes nearly long range ammo when fired from 425s - you will be using antimatter (preferably faction) a lot from 425s.
T2s have a higher damage mod AND access (for most players) 8% extra damage from the spec, and can when suitable, fire T2 ammo.
If you intend armor tanking, AND using 425s then you want to stay at range, you should need only 1 repper on a hyper, and you do not need bulkheads.
No mission ship needs 2 heavy boosters. I run 1 med on mine (thats enough to run 1 repper). If you are using a booster, you need an efficient tank, because you do not have the cargo space to bang away with 300 dps and run 2 reps for an entire mission. So you want 1 rep and armor resistance mods.
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Veronica Kerrigan
Hand Of Midas F0RCEFUL ENTRY
19
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Posted - 2012.03.06 05:58:00 -
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Jeyson Vicious wrote:Okay, here goes:
Hyperion
Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Dread Guristas 425mm Railgun (Navy Thorium Charge) Vepas' Modified Dual 250mm Railgun (Caldari Navy Iridium Charge) Republic Fleet Large Proton Smartbomb
100MN MicroWarpdrive Heavy Electrochemical Cap Booster 1 Heavy Electrochemical Cap Booster 1 Empty Empty
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System True Sansha Power Diagnostic System Reinforced Bulkheads II Co-processor II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Nanobot Accelerator I Capacitor Control Circuit I
This has my power grid at 98.9% and my CPU at 95.6%. But anyway, total DPS is 398.9. I have 4 tech 1 drones accounting for 161.6 of that, so only 237.3 is from turrets. Target range is 50-71km.
So with money spent in turrets and two Hardwires giving me a 5% and 3% damage multiplier I can't top 300 DPS from turrets. I don't have Large Hybrid or Railgun Specialization, but other skills are at 3 or 4. Going to 5 can't amount to that much more right?
Oh dear. This fit you have is extremely sub par. no armor resists, empty slots, hull tanking . On a boat like the hyperion I would probably forsake the armor repair bonus (I am assuming something like lvl 4 missions here), and shield tank it to get more dps. The fit I cam up with was as follows:
[Hyperion, Hyperion PvE] Co-Processor II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Warrior II x5
It puts out 834 dps at 47+49km range Tanks around 400 Kinetic/Thermal damage Cap lasts long enough.
I also recommend getting EFT (Eve fitting tool) to you can look at the numbers on a fit before you actually buy things
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2012.03.06 06:05:00 -
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Veronica Kerrigan wrote:Shield fit Hyp
Thats a nice fit. I should try it. Do you need a webber in there? Because I thought the 425's tracking would be useless at the ranges the webber works anyways. |

Veronica Kerrigan
Hand Of Midas F0RCEFUL ENTRY
20
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Posted - 2012.03.06 06:09:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Veronica Kerrigan wrote:Shield fit Hyp
Thats a nice fit. I should try it. Do you need a webber in there? Because I thought the 425's tracking would be useless at the ranges the webber works anyways.
I had it as a utility mid, decided on web for those pesky cruisers, but it could be something else. SBA pushes tank up a good bit, could be a tracking computer, or even an afterburner for missions with gates far away.
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Jeyson Vicious
The Scope Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.06 06:11:00 -
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You're right across the board. I scanned a site in a .4 system and got chased out almost immediately. Then I saw an armor fit suggestion so grabbed the rigs. And went from 250mm to the 425s. But now experimental ratting I notice I have trouble staying at range for long, then cap out trying to MWD back away to range and then have to use expensive cap boosters which take up all my cargo space.
So I guess I need to drop a cap, the bulkheads, get the other rigs, fix the ammo and keep on training on.
Funny, this game is like digital golf. It's hard to play just right and keeps you trying over and over. Thanks for the advice so far. |

Jeyson Vicious
The Scope Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.06 06:13:00 -
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Thanks Veronica. I will try that fit tomorrow. |

Dhar'aul
TxEvasion
2
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Posted - 2012.03.06 06:31:00 -
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Jeyson Vicious wrote:You're right across the board. I scanned a site in a .4 system
Jeyson Vicious wrote: I scanned a site in a .4 system
Jeyson Vicious wrote: a site in a .4 system
Jeyson Vicious wrote: a .4 system
Oh my, what are you doing in lowsec with your apparent eve experience ? STAY IN 0.5+ SYSTEMS |

Darthewok
Perkone Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2012.03.06 07:00:00 -
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If you use EFT and right click your guns/drones you can see the impact of different levels of skills. You can import your character's skills via API and compare the ship performance with all level 5 skills and yours to see the gap from skills. If you don't have EFT (EVE Fitting Tool), just look for the thread in this forum. CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 |

Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries Alliance not Found
21
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Posted - 2012.03.06 09:09:00 -
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First thing I'd say is that bigger is not better. The choice of the Hyperion in this case might be appropriate but you may be better off with a smaller, faster ship which can make better use of transversal and with smaller guns which will track more effectively. As you're using a Smartbomb and seem to be tending towards an armour tank you might, if the battleship is the right choice then you might find the Megathron more effective - though as you only have four drones the larger drone bay won't have much benefit for you.
Second, the comment earlier about picking guns and sticking with them reflects the "dreadnaught" philosophy of naval warfare. the idea is that with a full rack of similar guns they will all be engaging the target equally well from the same moment. You can easily assess the ammunition you need, you can see when your guns are working and when they aren't and you can more easily define the tactics you need to apply in a given situation. However... highest tier guns are not absolutely vital. They do more damage and have more range but, as above, you may find, particularly if you're having trouble with fittings, that running with a full rack of 350mm rails and a solid tank, mag stabs...etc is more effective than 425s and running out of PG (an extreme example).
Thirdly, others have pointed out the Reinforced Bulkheads and the lack of resist modules. As with weapons you can get better performance out of a focussed and specialised tank in general. There are applications where a mixed tank has value but they're generally quite niche and often designed to have a psychological effect primarily rather than a conventionally efficient effect. Resists in particular are often underestimated because many other games put so much less focus on them than EVE. If you're dealing with (for example) NPCs which use lasers then the fitting of a single EM and a single Thermal active hardener will halve the damage you take on your tanking layer, that effectively doubles the number of hitpoints you have and simultaneously doubles the effect of your repair modules (in that a single rep cycle which would have countered (again for example) ten hostile shots will now counter twenty).
Fourthly, you have stated that you have four drones. Most likely the quickest route to boosting your output damage would be to train Drones [5]. That would give you 25% more drone damage immediately and unlock access to Drone Interfacing. A couple of levels of that will take less than a day of training and again significantly increase your drone damage output. It would also unlock access to Heavy Drone Operation and while Heavy Drones may not be appropriate for your needs, if they are they represent yet another significant damage increase.
Finally, a lot of people get obsessed by the numbers in the damage messages or with the DPS values listed in the fitting window or EFT whereas the true power of your ship is actually somewhere between the two. Application of your damage is a significant factor and while modules like Tracking Computers will not increase the DPS number in the fitting window they can make a big difference to your applied damage.
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Brisco County
The Shadow Plague BLACK-MARK
7
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Posted - 2012.03.06 10:16:00 -
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The hyperion is my ratting ship of choice. Shamefully, not because it's the best but because it looks p cool.
You really shouldn't need a MWD for ratting. An afterburner is plenty of speed to keep everything but frigates at range, and you have a large drone bay to take care of them. I used to run with a web, but nothing ever got close enough to use it.
[Hyperion, New Setup 1] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Large Armor Repairer II Dark Blood Armor Thermic Hardener Armor Kinetic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hobgoblin II x5
The cap lasts 12 minutes according to EFT, but if you cycle the afterburner every once in a while you won't cap out. If you can't use T2 large rails (or if you are having trouble with grid), just use 350mm prototype gauss guns. Make sure you have 8 of the same turrets fitted. If you have trouble with tracking, you can swap out a MFS with a tracking enhancer. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
241
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Posted - 2012.03.06 10:24:00 -
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Don't take a rail Hyperion to lowsec alone unless you know perfectly what you are doing. And when you know what you are doing, you don't fit it with faction guns and use it in PvE there. You were lucky to get out alive. Stick in hisec and use a Vexor Myrmidon until you train skills and learn the game
You really need the T2 large guns on a battleship to make it worthwhile. Also, train Rapid Firing, Surgical Strike and Controlled Bursts to at least IV for Gallente hybrid ships. They will increase your dps and cap life.
And what Jacob said, train drones if you want to fly Gallente. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
466
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Posted - 2012.03.06 10:30:00 -
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There is so much lol here.
Jeyson Vicious wrote:I'm running around in a Hyperion and I gave my right arm to get six faction 425mms and one 250mm. I even put faction ammo in and my DPS doesn't pass 300 p/s. I see people all the time talking about fits with 1000+ DPS and I'm not even close.
FYI... when people talk about the "1000 DPS Hyperion" they are usually referring to the "Shield-Gank" fit for PvP.
[Highs] Neutron Blaster Cannon II (Antimatter) Neutron Blaster Cannon II (Antimatter) Neutron Blaster Cannon II (Antimatter) Neutron Blaster Cannon II (Antimatter) Neutron Blaster Cannon II (Antimatter) Neutron Blaster Cannon II (Antimatter) Neutron Blaster Cannon II (Antimatter) Neutron Blaster Cannon II (Antimatter)
[Mids] Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II 100 MN Microwarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II
[Lows] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
[Rigs] Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I
[Drones] 3x Ogre II 2x Hammerhead II
As you can see... this fit is not designed to take the sustained damage that a mission deals. Some of the others in this thread have given good advice concerning how to make a Hyperion work for missions... but, sadly, the Hype simply isn't very "efficient" at running missions.
My advice would be to sell it and either get a Megathron or (if you are willing to work on your drone skills for awhile) the Dominix... the latter of which is largely considered to be one of the "cheapo kings" of mission running. The Ishtar is also an option if you do not enjoy the bulkiness of battleships.
Also... faction guns don't offer much more than Meta 4 T1 guns... and are outdamaged completely by T2 guns. Save your money and compare stats between different stuffs before you buy them in order to get the best performance out of your ISK. "Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
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Liam Mirren
312
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Posted - 2012.03.06 12:43:00 -
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Hype being "bad" comes from before the hybrid buffs, if you compare them now to a Megathron (or even navy Mega) they're actually quite good these days. You ofcourse lose out on the tracking bonus (which can greatly affect your applied dps) but with 2 TCs AND a web it's fine tbh. DPS is better than a mega and even a navy mega in realistic PVE fits, tanking is also above par.
I ran the numbers and went "wtf, this can't be, the Hype is supposed to be crap!". Have a look here.
[Hyperion, lvl 4 - Serp] Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
100MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Ancillary Current Router I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
Here's a "maxed" fit, needs cpu implant.
[Hyperion, lvl 4 - Serp T2 guns] Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Imperial Navy Armor Kinetic Hardener Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
100MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed True Sansha Stasis Webifier Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Ancillary Current Router I
Hobgoblin II x5 Garde II x3 Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

Thelron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.03.06 15:22:00 -
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Definitely grab the last drone and a few levels of the drone support skills. Even if you don't go to T2 drones right away, being able to field a full flight of lights will make life a hell of a lot easier against frigates than the lone smartbomb will. For missions stick with lights (the 5m3 drones) for a while and use any extra drone bay for, err, replacements. Mediums (the 10m3 drones) can become useful to chew through a cruiser while you're working on other stuff but it sucks to get caught with them out and *really* needing a scrambler dead.
Guns- 425s are nice and sexy and all the popular kids have 'em. Meanwhile, 350s do almost the same DPS with any given ammo, and in missions the shorter range can actually be a "plus"- they still fire further than you'll ever need to, the step-down in ammo will only in extreme cases ever be below thorium (you'll want to carry AM/Thorium and either Irridium or Tungsten, whereas with 425s you'd carry AM and maybe a bit of Thorium. Either way you fire mostly AM), and in return you don't have nearly as much trouble when targets are in close. And by close I mean <50km. Best of all, they're easier to fit, which is REALLY nice while you're working your skills up.
Sell back the DG guns regardless of which size you go for, though. Use the money on Prototypes, and the best "rest of the fit" you can afford. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
241
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Posted - 2012.03.06 16:09:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:Hype being "bad" comes from before the hybrid buffs, if you compare them now to a Megathron (or even navy Mega) they're actually quite good these days. You ofcourse lose out on the tracking bonus (which can greatly affect your applied dps) but with 2 TCs AND a web it's fine tbh. DPS is better than a mega and even a navy mega in realistic PVE fits, tanking is also above par.
I've got a tracking implant plugged in, and even with dual scripted TCs I find the tracking of 350mms on Hype abysmal. 425s certainly can't hit anything in web range.
I've been trying to make the Hype work in C3 sites, it's a gorgeous hull. Unfortunately it just doesn't cut it, the tank works but killing stuff remains an issue.
As what comes to that maxed Hype fit, here is a Domi that does comparable DPS but applies it twice as precisely against anything smaller than a BS, tanks better with better cap life and costs only a quarter of that Hype's price while requiring no implants.
[Dominix, Cheaper Better Hype]
Drone Link Augmentor I Dual 250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge L Dual 250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge L Dual 250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge L Dual 250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge L Dual 250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge L
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Damage Control II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Adaptive Nano Plating II Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I [Empty Rig slot]
Garde II x5 Bouncer II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Garde II x1 Bouncer II x1
I don't want to bash the Hype, but for PvE there are better choices. For PvP as well :(
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Liam Mirren
312
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Posted - 2012.03.06 16:23:00 -
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The Hype still is limited in use (just as the Rokh) compared to Abaddons and Maels but it's not as bad as it was. And the "Just forget about the hype" isn't warranted anymore, at least not in armour fit for PVE.
It can hit upclose cruisers stuff just fine within web range with 2 tracking scripts, and all serp cruisers orbit close enough to make that happen. Anything bigger gets hit hard whatever they try to do. Also: some manual piloting to lower transversal, even if just a little bit, does wonders. Doing lvl 4s is entirely different from doing sleepers though so yeah there's it's really not that good.
Actually, if you have 2 domis in RR fit you can duo C3s amazingly well, and super cheap. Apart from that I'm not a fan of drone boats, as silly as it may sound as you lose so much time with aggro control and all that. Also, switching drones to kill small stuff like scram frigs means you lose the majority of your dps for a while, turret/missile based ships do not have this issue and generally end up being faster at completing missions for exactly that reason. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
241
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Posted - 2012.03.06 16:36:00 -
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Yes, I've used the RR Domi duo in C3s for a long time and it's stellar, but solo the Domi can't tank enough omni dmg, and sleepers start targeting sentries without RR on field. Dual repper Hype tanks really well and has no problem popping the battleships, but is completely helpless against sleeper frigs- drones don't do enough dps and it can't hit them with guns.
True about the difference, I forgot that sleepers go a lot faster than mission rats, so you might actually hit them with 425mms.
Dropping a shield gank Hype at 0 on sleeper BS is amusing, though :D
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Jeyson Vicious
The Scope Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.07 03:21:00 -
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Hey, thanks everybody for the ideas. Acting on some of the suggestions I'm up to 628 total DPS. I'll sign up for EFT and keep on the skills
I am now a lion among men. Appreciate the help. |

Hrett
Quantum Cats Syndicate Villore Accords
51
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Posted - 2012.03.07 08:33:00 -
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Jeyson Vicious wrote:Hey, thanks everybody for the ideas. Acting on some of the suggestions I'm up to 628 total DPS. I'll sign up for EFT and keep on the skills
I am now a lion among men. Appreciate the help.
Just remember - in eve, bigger/more expensive is not always better. You can spend lots of isk for something that is basically overkill for what you need to do. It appears that is what you have done here.
Honestly, I can't believe you were flying that ship around solo in lowsec. So damn juicy. You are very lucky sir. ;)
My advice, park it, buy some dominix, and get a bit of experience under your belt. Read some fitting guides. This isn't the best, but it's a start:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Gallente_Basic_Ship_and_Skill_Guide
Good luck.
If you continue to insist flying that in lowsec, please bring it to black rise.;) |
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