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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:41:00 -
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Dev blog just said that you take standing hits for shooting the opposing faction's malitia pilots.
if for example... i shoot someone in a malitia NPC corp, do i take a standing hit with thier faction? even if i am not involved in faction warfare?
that would really suck...
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Thanos Draicon
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:42:00 -
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Ask in the dev chat instead of on the forums? --------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X Hey I have an idea: "Let's not endure any more of your spam for the weekend!" Enjoy your time away from our forums.
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:43:00 -
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Against their factions militia.
How it works is like this:- Militia standings will be differant to concord/etc... standings. Militia's will have their own navy's, once your standing goes below a certain level then the militia's npc ships will shoot you on site, but concord or the actual race navy will NOT shoot you.
Aneu ________________
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endeavour x
Hangover Heros.
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:43:00 -
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My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
"If they can't lock you, they can't shoot you." |
RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: RoCkEt X on 15/05/2008 20:46:48 everyone is muted... lol
[20:46:23] RoCkEt X > You are not able to speak on this channel<br>Reason: Not Specified<br>Until: Not Specified<br>admin: Not Specified<br>
copied straight from dev channel =)
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:43:00 -
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I would guess they mean the opposing faction likes you less which makes sense.
Otherwise you are engaging a legitimate "war" target and should be no problem.
Just a guess though.
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:45:00 -
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yh but what i am saying.. is if i shoot people in malitia's and i am not involved in faction warfare.. i lose standings with them for shooting thier members - effectively locking me out of faction warfare should i wish to do it in the future
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X yh but what i am saying.. is if i shoot people in malitia's and i am not involved in faction warfare.. i lose standings with them for shooting thier members - effectively locking me out of faction warfare should i wish to do it in the future
If you should someone in a NPC corp right now you lose standings with that corp. Why would FW be any different? After all you ARE interfering with their military efforts when you pop their pilots
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Not it isn't, people should be encouraged to get out in low sec space, but never forced to do so.
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:53:00 -
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current NPC corps are not joinable so losing standings will not close off any aspects of my gameplay, with the introduction of joinable NPC corps this changes, as i may end up in a situation where i am unable to join many of the factions. which i personally see as a problem
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:59:00 -
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*shrugs shoulders* Then stop shooting them.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Not it isn't, people should be encouraged to get out in low sec space, but never forced to do so.
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.05.15 21:04:00 -
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lol... but shooting people is fun... eve is pvp, whatever you do...
i wouldnt log in if i didnt think there would be a nice juicy target to shoot =)
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.15 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X lol... but shooting people is fun... eve is pvp, whatever you do...
i wouldnt log in if i didnt think there would be a nice juicy target to shoot =)
Then find what faction(s) you do not want to work for and set them to red. Take the one(s) you do want to maybe work for, set them blue. Then don't shoot the pretty blue ones. Maybe, just MAYBE, CCP will do it right and as your faction with one drops, your standings with the other will rise.
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Shakuul
Caldari Extreme Addiction Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.15 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: endeavour x My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
Nono in the drone bay you need a Templar, the amarr fighter. Its a combat drone used by carriers.
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.05.16 08:34:00 -
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anaalys, that would be a good way of balancing it, (as in standings go up if you shoot a particular faction's enemy) thnx for your input.
CCP... DO BALANCE THINGY!!!!1111
/signed
-RoCkEt X
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Karina Redstar
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Posted - 2008.05.17 07:21:00 -
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Standing hits should only occurre when ppl involved are part of a militia. Else this could be exploited. Lets's take the following exemple: Corp A join Caldari militia so they take part of FW. Corp B don't join any militia. Corp A declare war to corp B or just pew pew them in low sec and 0.0. Corp B shoot Corp A ppl defending themself. If Corp B take Caldari faction hit from defending themself without being involved in any FW they will be restricted from entering caldari space (well, not restricted but they will be shoot by caldari NPC militia). |
Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.05.17 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Karina Redstar Standing hits should only occurre when ppl involved are part of a militia. Else this could be exploited. Lets's take the following exemple: Corp A join Caldari militia so they take part of FW. Corp B don't join any militia. Corp A declare war to corp B or just pew pew them in low sec and 0.0. Corp B shoot Corp A ppl defending themself. If Corp B take Caldari faction hit from defending themself without being involved in any FW they will be restricted from entering caldari space (well, not restricted but they will be shoot by caldari NPC militia).
Will you be allowed to declare war on others as a corp in FW? I'm not so sure. I suspect the militias to be like a corp and alliance where you join and you get their wartargets and you dont get any wardecs any longer. Unless the larger alliance does it. Which is npc based.
Oh and yes it's basically like where a corp joins an alliance to get away from war decs. With 24hour cooldown. Which a dev I do believe has already affirmed.
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Neesa Corrinne
Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 10:47:00 -
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Did the OP REALLY just ask why people stop liking him when he shoots them and their friends, or do I finally need to get that eye surgery done?
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Tharukan Desm'ar
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Posted - 2008.05.17 10:58:00 -
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it would make less sense if you didn't suffer standings hits with a faction your fighting a WAR against. If you cant deal with the consequences don't do it.
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.05.17 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne Did the OP REALLY just ask why people stop liking him when he shoots them and their friends, or do I finally need to get that eye surgery done?
His point was that if he is a pirate and are killing these guys in the militias on all sides. It turns out eventually all the militias hate him and he cant join any of them.
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Molpadia Devaux
Minmatar Applied Creations
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Posted - 2008.05.17 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X Dev blog just said that you take standing hits for shooting the opposing faction's malitia pilots.
if for example... i shoot someone in a malitia NPC corp, do i take a standing hit with thier faction? even if i am not involved in faction warfare?
that would really suck...
*Sarcasm on*
Let's see, If I attack someone in an NPC corp, you mean I take a standing hit with that corp? How unfair. I should be able to attack anyone I want and everybody should love me.
*Sarcasm off*
What is the point of your post? I would truely like to know why you feel that attacking someone in an NPC corp should not result in a faction loss.
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Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.17 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X current NPC corps are not joinable so losing standings will not close off any aspects of my gameplay, with the introduction of joinable NPC corps this changes, as i may end up in a situation where i am unable to join many of the factions. which i personally see as a problem
Why do you think you should have the ability change factions? It's not like you can join the Guristas if you've been NPCing on them heavily.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.05.17 19:44:00 -
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"militia"
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Karina Redstar
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Posted - 2008.05.19 09:54:00 -
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The OP said "I shoot someone in a militia" not "attack someone in a militia". I agree that attacking someone in a militia should result in a standing loss for the attacker even if he is not in other militia. But taking standing loss if you defend yourself is a big no-no. If player X is in a militia and a pirat should I just stay and get shot down if I don't want to get standing loss from defending myself if I'm not in any militia?
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CEO Skillz
Gallente KINSHIP Inc
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Posted - 2008.05.19 10:41:00 -
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Perhaps this will apply to those in fw. If you are not in fw than game play will keep normal. Most likely not tho'
Simple solution is set standings to new npc corporations so you know who you shoot. Also I am sure you will be able to regain standings lost. Just as you can regain security status, etc.
Oh.. power to Gallente!!!
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Callthetruth
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:05:00 -
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thinik of it currently u shoot a factions hauler ( u know those white ships that haul NPC trade goods around systems) outside some stations.
Shoot them they drop some nice loot but u loose standings
Extend to factional warfare and u have youre answer
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Princess Alvilda
Thetan Cloning Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:12:00 -
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Will you lose faction standing shooting militia in 0.0? Cause that wouldnt make sence.
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