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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.05.31 02:39:00 -
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" Walks through the tunnel leading to his little trusted Cruiser" Hmmmm, yet another day to go kill people and take their stuff. It is good to be a pirate. Let's kill and mame and rob people from their hardearned belongings. " I hop in my chair, turn on my Z3000 Engines and listen to the humming that slowly increses to a roaring. A kind of scream for more blood." Only a few seconds later I cleared the launchingtube and I start looking for prey. Then my radar picks up 2 unsuspecting ships. A simple Osprey and a Badger MKII. This will be a nice start of the day. The fight is short and soon the bodies of those foolish pilots drift in space. I loot what I want and leave the rest to drift in space as a sort of token to others that I am around. But at some point I get bored so I start killing a few Guristas and Sancha pirates so people will see I am a buddy now. It doesnt matter that I killed a bunch of people for my own pleasure and profits. I just kill a few pirateships and all is well and all will love me again and say I am a nice boy.
Well atleast half of this story is true and I dont think it is the second half. You want to play a pirate, play it, but dont whine it is so hard to get into good standings again. Months or weeks of killing others cant be and shouldnt be corrected by a few weeks of NPC pirate killing. You burned your bumm, now sit on the blisters. And if you dont like it then thats your problem. What comes around goes around. Nobody wants a mass murderer back in civilisation and if it is hard to be accepted as a normal human being again then so be it. Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.02 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Viqer Fell on 02/06/2004 17:30:37 Why are these posts filled with responses of the uneducated ill informed bisbegotten asumptions and opinions of the criminally stupid?
KillerGandry thank you for stopping to troll this post on the way to getting yourself a clue.
Try reading the post fully next time. I am not a pirate. I do not camp 0.4 gates. I got this rating from role playing a prominent character in the Minmatar freedom struggle. I am not expecting instacures for a bad rating, what I do desire though is that after killing a few people (which many enjoyed and sent mails to that effect) that I can worl hard for a few weeks or months to regain my rating not be effectively permanently banned from empire which the current system does do.
Many of the people I attacked actually had fun as we always role played our fights. I have now had to give up my role playing as majority of the fights in that conflict are becoming more and more empire based and it meant to get to most systems I was flying for 10 times the distance to get to same system and was usually unable to enter the system as it was 0.6 etc.
I am moaning about the system not because I wish to go into empire to gank newbs or whatever the current kiddie phraseology is. It's because I actually wish to get involved in the game events more and also that I can return to my role playing which CCP borked with this current system.
I knew that when role playing previously I was able to gradually and slowly recover a rating. Then one day without warning I was suddenly and effectively banned from empire.
I have two options now. Stay away from empire for ever knowing that my main reason for playing has been removed from me through implementation of a, imo, very poor system. Or secondly I become one of those 0.4 gate camping pirate ppl. I don't want to do this but I am pretty sick of not knowing where I stand. Hence the desire for CCP to give us an answer no matter what it is!
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Bhal'rog
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Posted - 2004.06.02 20:19:00 -
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Clue: Just because a pilot has a negative security status does not make the pilot a pirate.
PVPers do fall on both sides of the "Law".
Role Players, bounty hunters, space cops/pirate hunters and curious newbs have been living with negative sec status for a long time now.
Pilots should have the opportunity to role play "Dudley Duright" and try to keep low sec. empire space free of pirates. The reality of the situation makes this impossible.
Example: Dudley Duright is uber and kills several of the most notorious pirates in the galaxy. Low and behold his sec. status is now as low as the scurvy scum he brought to justice and he can now no longer enter the space he so galantly defended.
So please, refain from the knee jerk reaction, "what's the matter pirate, can't gank n00bs in empire", it is just ignorant, please consider all aspects of the game.
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Yamatar
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Posted - 2004.06.03 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Yamatar on 03/06/2004 00:26:38 Yup I stopped pirating ( a short experiment) over 2 months ago. gained like 0.01 since then despite killing 0.0 bs etc.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.06.03 01:00:00 -
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I stopped giving a **** about my sec rating last year but still, the sec rating system is horrifically unbalanced.
Nice to see people using the forums to fight their battles against pirates must be quite thrilling to have an issue you can taunt a pirate character with and not end up losing your ship
Oh and btw, anyone with an IQ of over 35 realises this isn't an issue about piracy. Just look at the roster of any Merc or Anti-Pirate corp. out there
And lastly. Bumping old threads, tsk tsk
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.06.03 01:08:00 -
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yeah, boost meh ss to
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khainestar
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Posted - 2004.06.03 13:07:00 -
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Although my sec status is currently 0.0 I will add my voice to the crowd saying the security gains are rubbish. I know 3 people that have sec ratings of -1.5 and -2.0 but they are not pirates they mearly defended some mates. They got it from attacking people in a 0.4 system after other members of the mining party had been attacked. So for them to get a negative rating for defending someone with no way to recover the lose is stupid.
There should be a way for someone to regain sec status. Not easy but possible.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.06.03 13:42:00 -
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I know when i was a complete noob, (two weeks ago)...I managed to **** off Concord... Knocked me down to -.04 in one smack...And I was up to .01 almost .02....
When happened, I actually started to look at the bonus for Rat kills to security rating and notice the above problem...You don't get crap..(average of .0015)...Actually ran the numbers for a few days...
Three hundred (or whatever it is) kills later I have pushed back too .02 Positive by hunting NPC Rats in 0.6....I am only a Tristan Pilot...
I have to agree with "what" a lot have been saying...Everything else in the EVE Universe is for sale...Why not your security rating.... Do something like this:
Current: 0.05 Bail: + 1 Cost: 5 mill...
The lower you are the bigger the cost....Also make the most you can push it postive with money is back to 1.0....
Just some thouhts...
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:21:00 -
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i have never pirated, n00bganked in empire or anywhere near it (i need this qualifier due to altfrigatewhackings handed out whilst in the CA =) ), griefed or any such thing.
I have never had a 1.0 or higher sec rating, because i was doing other oracle-related stuff when sec was pathetically easy to get and now it's too late.
I was 0.8 i don't know, bloody ages, eventually a few months ago went up to 0.9.
I have been playing this character since release.
One event - impoc hunt - and i dropped instantly back to 0.8.
i expect in another year or so i *might* be back to 0.9 .
As Viqer says, this is ridiculous. If you don't want us to do anything besides choose between "miner" and "ganker," please say so and we will choose accordingly. Otherwise, the system needs fixin'.
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Drac Dragnog
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Posted - 2004.06.03 15:36:00 -
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Im right there with ya harlequin.... .8 was my peak just got back to .1 from a few fights in .4 to protect my miners, its not pretty these days out there... I found it easier to get ranking doing agent kill missions...
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.03 22:55:00 -
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Thanks for all the positive replies guys.
Just to clarify this is nothing to do with bumping old threads. This is a longstanding thread which has been kept current by many people who have a serious issue with CCP's lack of communication on this one single topic.
I would like to thank the mods for allowing us to demonstrate our unhappiness and desire for CCP to be honest with its player base by not locking this thread for spurious (i.e. oooh bumping old threads) reasons.
And if a mod does happen to read this and perhaps knows TomB in any way, even if you just know his grannies second best mate's dad's friends niece's babysitter or something, please poke him in this direction. You may wish to mention the number of views and replies this post and several similar ones have. They represent some of the most viewed threads going and demonstrate the strength of feeling held by the player base in this regard.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Siddy
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Posted - 2004.06.04 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Viqer Fell CCP's lack of communication on this one single topic.
Lack of "communication" is wery _soft_ way to say thatCCP is TOTALY ignoring _any_ tread abaut sec status and such...
they have prolly installed a "sec status" filtter on theyr PC so when moderators/devs log in They dont even see the whole tread
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.06.05 05:03:00 -
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Read my reply carefully, I was talking about pirates for one, second of all I hate PvP, be it with pirate players, be it by roleplayers or whomever. But if I want to mine the stuff that gives me the opportunity to increase my income and therefore my chances for better ships and stuff then I will be forced to PvP. NEWSFLASH. There are actually people in this game who get limited in their movement aswell, and that mainly due to those that love to PvP. Do they care about that? Nop. And if you roleplay some character who might have the right intentions but still acts outside the law, then why should the law accept you in that easy. I am quit satisfied with the sec rating system, I allso had to work hard to get it back to positive, mainly due to 2 run ins with Concord. So now I am more carefull in my combat actions. If I dont want to accept the consequences from my actions in gameplay then I will have to reconsider my gameplay. If I dont want to change my gameplay then I will have to accept the consequences. Nowhere in this game do I have the option to avoid PvP. Those that love it for whatever reason force me into PvP cause they think it's cool. Ever thought about the few that actually dont think it's that cool as you think it is? Call me a whiner about that or whatever, like some PvPers allready called me in the game, before they then shredded my indy or mining or travel equiped cruiser. The times a PvP player actually checks if the other one likes to PvP is allmost nihill. So why even expect pity or understanding of those people who are forced out of a big region of space due to gatecampers, roleplayers who live really good into their hunting char but lack the ability to allso accept the fact that what they do is still against the law or whatever. I know I will get a lot of flames about this responce. But I will give that as much attention as people actually will give to my post here
Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.05 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Viqer Fell on 05/06/2004 15:07:35 If you don't care about the replies then please stop posting here, you're hijacking a legitimate thread with your unwanted commentary on how you like the current system. Please start your own " I hate PvP so should have bought an "massively soloplayer online roleplaying game" thread.
This is a thread about how we want the system changing to allow us to compensate for the negative repurcussions of our actions. I accept my actions have a bad impact on my rating but would not be upset should i work for 2 months and correct the problem. Thats two whole months, not ten minutes, not a week thats eight whole fricking weeks I'd spend to recover.
I don't jump in on the "I'm a miner so ban all Pvp'ers full stop threads", for those ppl i'd simply suggest playing a game that doesn't allow pvp, not trying to subvert the one really good pvp mmorpg out on the market, so please post elsewhere gandry. Thanks for your view but it isn't pertinent to the post.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.06.05 18:11:00 -
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Just as I get told that I have to go look for a nice none PvP game I could reply go look in a game where you can PvP without repurcussions, I am not saying it should be impossible, but allso not easy like bribing some Concord agents or something like that, let CCP bring in certain agents in 0.0 space for whom you have to do peace missions or where you get missions to do just the opposite of that from what you got your negative status, And my post here is as legitimate as any other reply, just because I dont agree with you guys doesnt make my opinion less. If you dont like my posts then dont reply, simple as that. But as much as I leave you to reply in any form you like to do, I expect that others will atleast leave me to my posts aswell Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.06 01:03:00 -
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But this is the problem Gandry, it currently is Impossible to fix things, I wouldn't mind if I knew two or three months would fix it but the amount of work needed to change ratings is currently close to the kind of effort needed to raise the titanic.
Hence this post is from people effected by the problem, directed at CCP. It wasn't intended to be a general discussion between pilots on how they like/dislike the system. I'm not suggesting you aren't entitled to reply I am just suggesting it detracts from the overall point of this one thread and there are multiple other discussion threads re sec status.
Come on CCP, this is getting silly, give us an answer please.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.07 18:16:00 -
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Interesting to see that there's not even a mention of a sec system change in Shiva. It looks more and more like CCP are wanting us to be stuck with neg ratings , thr4 banned from empire and story events.
Oh well, might be interesting getting to minus ten if CCP are so happy to force us down that route through their sheer ignorance
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.10 16:38:00 -
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This post topic won't die just cause you choose to ignore it TomB. So yet again I implore you, please read, digest and answer the questions raised within.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Siddy
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Posted - 2004.06.11 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 11/06/2004 13:09:41 TomB ... anyone ... Please ... note this post ....
Last despairet attempt to atenttion w.hore ^^ -------------------------------------------
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Telk Behm'shai
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Posted - 2004.06.11 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Telk Behm'shai on 11/06/2004 13:27:02
Originally by: Siddy Edited by: Siddy on 30/04/2004 13:29:04 at this rate i whuld get acsessable sec to get in 1.0 somewere at 2007 .....
Ofcorse - if CCP dont want me to behave... i can go back and start killing right away ....
Just like a pirate to give up so quickly. J/K GL going straight. Hope it sticks.
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.06.11 14:02:00 -
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Come on CCP ....
I want to suck Roids in 1.0 space ...... Is there actually anything >0.5 space ... its been so long ....
Joking apart YOU .... YES YOU CCP need to fix this .... for both Pirates and Pirate Hunters.
Mongo speaks !!
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.06.11 16:48:00 -
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Yep CCP please look at this for the next patch.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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gallentia
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Posted - 2004.06.12 06:09:00 -
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HEY SIDDY OLD BUDDY :))))
I agree with you guys, the sec rating system suck atm. I got my neg sec rating due to helping some or my RL friends whil they mined in 0.4 when i was at -1.0 i tried to raise but like siddy said it just takes too much time to raie the sec rating, so then i had 2 options 1. QUIT eve all together (although currently they pi**ed me off one to many times due to some other issues where their reply was that just cause they couldnt see the problem it simply didt exist) or 2. join a pirate corp and continue to do what i love most, do PvP (since rolepalying part was lost with the loss of my positive rating)i chose option 2 (for the time being untill CCP scr**es something else and i quit this game all together) currently im -6.9 and with no way of getting the sec rating up i will do the next best thing get it down to -10.0 just for the sake of it.
CCP i think its time you answered our "little" problem here as it is one of the most important problems i have encountered in this game. "Let's kick their ass and get the Hell out of here." --- General George Armstrong Custer
"The supreme act of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting" --- Sun Tzu
"Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right." --- Henry Ford
"There is no security in life, only opportunity." --- Mark Twain |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.16 23:15:00 -
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Ok I understand that CCP have been really busy with the patch for last two days and will be for a while so I'll just keep this topic current so that when TomB deigns to answer his customers question that they've been semi impatiently waiting for for months now (paying customers expecting answers? LMAO fools.) it'll be here waiting for him.
And if any other GM or member knows Tomb please point him or any relevant dev in this direction if they have anything to do with the awful sec system as it is or as it may be in future.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Haitchi Allamut
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Posted - 2004.06.16 23:28:00 -
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I would also like to place a post here to show my hatered to the current Security rateing system. Here it is
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Sm0kE
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Posted - 2004.06.17 00:29:00 -
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maybe ppl can pay to get better sec status :] ------------------------------------------------
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.06.17 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sm0kE maybe ppl can pay to get better sec status :]
good ol times eh? -------------------------------------------
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.06.23 17:27:00 -
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Bumpage
comoon CCP .. anwser! -------------------------------------------
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.06.23 18:16:00 -
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I suggest you sign up for CSM chat or write a well argumented thread in Idea Lab. For now, I will look this thread because it's full of nonsense and has been bumped numerous times.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
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