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Siegfried Untreu
Caldari Quid Pro Quo
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Posted - 2008.04.20 21:07:00 -
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Hi,
was wondering if it's possible to run the level-4 Guristas Extravaganza in a Drake, or if it's lacking the damage (or even thank) to complete the mission?
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Giant Haystacks
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.04.20 21:10:00 -
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You'll be able to complete the mission easily, but a Raven would be a lot faster.
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Siegfried Untreu
Caldari Quid Pro Quo
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Posted - 2008.04.20 21:16:00 -
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Can't fly Raven (yet) though. Thanks for the quick response though.
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CetusOfAsuran
GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY
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Posted - 2008.04.20 21:18:00 -
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I wouldnt say easily, first stages yes but may be a little nailbiting on the final stage, read info on eve-survival for survival tips on the last bit.
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.20 22:17:00 -
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You're not saying anything about your skills here, so it's a bit hard to evaluate. My guess is that you'll probably easy do the first 4 stages, the 5th might be too hard, and the bonus stage certainly will be too hard.
Unless you got decent-to-good tanking and heavy missile skills, my guess is that you'll make more money/time doing L3's....
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Tashiell Gao
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.21 00:35:00 -
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T2 fitted drake can tank all pockets with relative ease, given that you don;t pop all the triggers intensionally; The downside is that it will take way too long to complete it.
Fake Edit: clicked reply then everything disappeared have to retype Tashiell Gao, Minmatar RolePlayer.
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Fist1
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Posted - 2008.04.21 00:51:00 -
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I did it in a drake once. tanked fine but took me 4 hours to complete. a raven is much better suited for this.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.04.21 00:55:00 -
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t2 fit drakes can easily out tank t2 fit ravens
... a 3 bcu ham drake with jav hams out dpses a arby cruise raven with 2 bcus and t1 ammo
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Petyr Baelich
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.04.21 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton t2 fit drakes can easily out tank t2 fit ravens
... a 3 bcu ham drake with jav hams out dpses a arby cruise raven with 2 bcus and t1 ammo
Yeah, but the 3 bcu ham drake can't tank the 4th and 5th rooms. As stated before GE4 takes several hours to complete in a drake leaving you better off doing lvl 3s.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.04.21 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Petyr Baelich
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton t2 fit drakes can easily out tank t2 fit ravens
... a 3 bcu ham drake with jav hams out dpses a arby cruise raven with 2 bcus and t1 ammo
Yeah, but the 3 bcu ham drake can't tank the 4th and 5th rooms. As stated before GE4 takes several hours to complete in a drake leaving you better off doing lvl 3s.
i do think it would tank the 4th and 5th room fine given that I did it in a raven that tanks less than that drake fit i was just using.
as for the bonus room, well i haven't a clue, don't think i ever even tried it
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.04.21 03:16:00 -
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Is there something about this that's not accurate?
According to the page, GE should not be any harder to tank than the last pocket of The Assault, and in fact should be a bit easier. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.21 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Petyr Baelich As stated before GE4 takes several hours to complete in a drake leaving you better off doing lvl 3s.
Excuse me ? Hours ? Yeah, maybe with an XR-launcher, L4-max skills, single or no-BCS Drake, while completely forgetting you have a dronebay. A decent full T2 fit with dual BCSs and a reasonably skilled pilot, actually using your drones too, and you'll be completing it in a little bit over one hour. Add faction ammo and you're down below one hour.
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lollerwaffle
Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.21 07:50:00 -
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tip: bring someone to salvage for you behind u. i tried soloing this in a drake and by the time i got the last pocket my 1st wrecks had disappeared
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NRGsting
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Posted - 2008.04.21 09:29:00 -
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I also fit 3 BCU's on my ship when doing GE4 since it dramatically reduces the time to complete. I have to drop one LSE however for power grid reasons but i fit a resistence amplifier (kinetic). I completed GE4 twice with the setup below (It's vital however that you don't shoot the triggers badly). 7 HML 2 2 LSE2 , 1 kinetic amplifier 2, 1 Kinetic hardener, 1 Termal Hardener 3BCU2, 1SPR2 /(CPU)
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Fuazzole
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Posted - 2008.04.21 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Petyr Baelich As stated before GE4 takes several hours to complete in a drake leaving you better off doing lvl 3s.
Excuse me ? Hours ? Yeah, maybe with an XR-launcher, L4-max skills, single or no-BCS Drake, while completely forgetting you have a dronebay. A decent full T2 fit with dual BCSs and a reasonably skilled pilot, actually using your drones too, and you'll be completing it in a little bit over one hour. Add faction ammo and you're down below one hour.
Show me a.. 2x BCS T2 fit reasonably skilled pilot that can do a GE in under an hour. Unless things have changed, beating 1hour is a very good time, with pimped times at around 45min mark
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.21 15:43:00 -
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Hmm, no idea, what about a few Drake-focused pilots I have in my corp (some fly Nighthawks now, but they could do almost the same in a NH), and even myself (with barely BC4, rapid launch 4, heavy missile spec 3, warhead upgrades 3, that's what I had Drake-related not so long ago). Without faction ammo, and without using the drones much, if at all, I would still regularly drop under an hour and a half completion time... a little bit of care given to actually using the drones, and it was down closer to an hour and a couple of minutes (but truth be told, I'm usually lazy as heck, I even use FOFs usually rather than regular missiles)... switch to faction ammo, and I'm sure it would have gone under an hour.
Of course, that's for mission completion. You are aware the mission can finish quite a bit before you kill all ships in the last pocket, right ? And that I wasn't even talking about the bonus room, which is another matter altogether.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.04.21 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: KISOGOKU on 21/04/2008 16:31:47 1h 40m for NH finishing time including bonus , scourge ammo with nearly maxed missile skills and very good drone skills(except drone interfacing 5 and drone spec 5) only warhead upgrades /guided missile/ heavy missile spec at lvl 4 and CS lvl 4 .Mission completes at stage 5 first group ,3 groups and bonus room need to be added to your mission completion time.
I dont think a drake pilot can complete mission (not talking finishing 5 stages and/or bonus) under an hour without faction ammo and did i say i have 5% missile rof implant installed.Im not sure if faction ammo is reasonable or not ,Youll need alot heavy missiles and cost/gain dont look nice to me
Originally by: Akita T Of course, that's for mission completion. You are aware the mission can finish quite a bit before you kill all ships in the last pocket, right ?
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DARTHxFREE
Double Indemnity
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Posted - 2008.04.21 19:53:00 -
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Kronos with maxed 425mm II skill, 2 5% damage hardwires, 3 faction dmg mods, faction antimater does all in 43:40 min, if the drake is only 15min slower with a 20th cost im retraining
but as said, that depending on what the definition of mission complete /join Cheeze & Whine Club
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Tranka Verrane
Public Venture Enterprises The OSS
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Posted - 2008.04.21 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tranka Verrane on 21/04/2008 22:40:11
Originally by: Fuazzole
Show me a.. 2x BCS T2 fit reasonably skilled pilot that can do a GE in under an hour. Unless things have changed, beating 1hour is a very good time, with pimped times at around 45min mark
o/ Willing to show you sometime. 45 minutes sounds about right.
That said depends on your definition of 'reasonanbly' skilled. 30m sp here, mostly BC specialised (I usually fly command but I use drake for low sec).
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.21 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: KISOGOKU 1h 40m for NH finishing time including bonus , scourge ammo[...]CS lvl 4[...]5% missile rof implant installed. Im not sure if faction ammo is reasonable or not ,Youll need alot heavy missiles and cost/gain dont look nice to me
Of course, you do realize that with the exact skills and implants you have right now, you would get 4.5% MORE raw missile DPS out of a CN Scourge dual-BCS-II Drake than out of a dual-BCS-II T1 Scourge Nighthawk... do you ? And even adding a third BCS-II on the NH, you only get +6.8% more missile DPS out of the T1 Scourge NH than out of the CN Scourge Drake ?
Besides, like you pointed out, that's including the last two waves you don't need to kill in the last room, and the bonus room too. So, like I said, one hour to COMPLETE the mission (as in, able to turn it in to the agent) is not something amazing at all.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.04.22 06:17:00 -
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No ,guess why
Originally by: Akita T
Of course, you do realize that with the exact skills and implants you have right now, you would get 4.5% MORE raw missile DPS out of a CN Scourge dual-BCS-II Drake than out of a dual-BCS-II T1 Scourge Nighthawk... do you ?
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Swearingen
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Posted - 2008.04.22 09:40:00 -
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I've done GE4 and the bonus room in an active-tanked drake with HML2s and t1 ammo. It's just slow.
I get a kick out of people who say stuff can't be done before they have tried it themselves. If they have tried it, maybe they should say "I can't do it" rather than "It can't be done" or "I doubt it can be done".
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