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Cire XIII
Caldari Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.04.14 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dheorl
What about the drake? You can't honestly say it's a fersome predator.
Predator of the red cross.
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Saerdna16ID
Gallente 16th Interspacial Dynasty The 11th Hour
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Posted - 2008.04.14 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: CosmicWillow Edited by: CosmicWillow on 11/04/2008 16:29:25 Amarr Battleships named after acts of god. Minmatar Battleships named after forces of nature. Gallente Battleships named after ??? Caldari Battleships named after birds and insects?
Gellente are more into the Greek Mythology and Greek words.
E.G. Myrmidon Comes from the name of the Achileas soldiers (Omiros) Thanatos in Greek means death Helios in Greek mean Sun Nemesis is from Greek Mythology and she was a God.
However not all ships names come from Greek words or Greek Mythology
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Dheorl
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.04.14 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Myrkala Dominix = The Lord (Latin: Domini, they added the X for the coolness factor.) Could also be the term to dominate.
Megathron = Mega Throne = Big Throne, or simply name after Megatron of Transformers...
Hyperion = Son of Gaia(earth) and Uranus, could actually mean "The high one".
Looks like they picked names that are themed of the Mediterranean.
Works reasonably well until you get to stuff like taranis. Last time I checked britain wasn't in the med.
There are general themes bt it's impossible to acuratly narrow it down to anything more than caldari - animals, amarr - relgious stuff, gallente - gods and minmatar - forces/animals/gods/religion (why does minmatar always have to be so awkward). Even at that degree of accuracy it's still a bit sketchy in places. |
Imaos
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Posted - 2008.04.15 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dheorl
What about the drake? You can't honestly say it's a fersome predator.
What about don't think of your farm's male duck, but more into mythology: Drakes the lesser wyrms. Drake the winged serpent.
I'd say dragonkin are predators and they even hoard money like the caldari.
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Originally by: NoNah
My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari. |
Imaos
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Posted - 2008.04.15 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dheorl
Works reasonably well until you get to stuff like taranis. Last time I checked britain wasn't in the med.
Last time I checked the historians were still debating if the celts ever made the move to come to britain (as the british isles belonged to Rome at that time). Also the celts were originally continental, coming from an area around Hallstatt/Austria. The greeks called them Keltoi. The Romans called them the celtae, galli (the courageous, the noble). As the name taranis comes from a roman sage of that time, I'd say it is more a god of continental europe. Taranis, Taran, Donar, Thor, Tanarus, Taranus ... Many names of different groups for a god with similar portfolio.
The Scots, Welshman, Irish used to look up to their claimed Viking, Anglo-Saxon heritage until they tried to distinguish them from the English in the middle of the 18th century. They form the new celts.
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There are general themes bt it's impossible to acuratly narrow it down to anything more than caldari - animals, amarr - relgious stuff, gallente - gods and minmatar - forces/animals/gods/religion (why does minmatar always have to be so awkward). Even at that degree of accuracy it's still a bit sketchy in places.
I wouldnt call minmatar akward. The hunt is a pretty good theme. Especially the hunt to overthrow an old religious system. And it is a merciless hunt: Ragnarok, hounds. The old pantheon will be destroyed and rooted out. That is their statement: Get rid of the Amarr and their gods once and for all.
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Originally by: NoNah
My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari. |
Dheorl
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Imaos
Originally by: Dheorl
Works reasonably well until you get to stuff like taranis. Last time I checked britain wasn't in the med.
Last time I checked the historians were still debating if the celts ever made the move to come to britain (as the british isles belonged to Rome at that time). Also the celts were originally continental, coming from an area around Hallstatt/Austria. The greeks called them Keltoi. The Romans called them the celtae, galli (the courageous, the noble). As the name taranis comes from a roman sage of that time, I'd say it is more a god of continental europe. Taranis, Taran, Donar, Thor, Tanarus, Taranus ... Many names of different groups for a god with similar portfolio.
The Scots, Welshman, Irish used to look up to their claimed Viking, Anglo-Saxon heritage until they tried to distinguish them from the English in the middle of the 18th century. They form the new celts.
If you don't class it as a british god then the closest your reasonably going to get to the med is probably germany/austria. Not exactly on the doorstep now is it?
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.04.15 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Ignitious gallente get screwed alot on ship names lol. Like ishtar is the goddess of fertility and love. Most of their ships are similar, like even astarte is another goddess of love and girly stuff like that...ASTARTE cmon, one of my fav PEW PEW ships...lol, whatever.
Originally by: Wikipedia Astarte was connected with fertility, sexuality, and war. Ishtar is a goddess of fertility, love, and war.
Note the last part of each description. Despite what you might think of the gender-bias of naming a ship after the goddess of sex, it seems to make sense to name them after goddesses of WAR.
Odd ship naming thing: Gallente Obelisk vs Caldari Charon? Shouldn't they be switched?
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Imaos
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Posted - 2008.04.15 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dheorl
If you don't class it as a british god then the closest your reasonably going to get to the med is probably germany/austria. Not exactly on the doorstep now is it?
The celts of that age marked the northern edge of the Roman and Greek realms. The tribes settled from today's Spain to today's Turkey and north up to Denmark. It comes as close to the edge as it can come.
Still the theme of Gallente can be described as god's of war.
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Originally by: NoNah
My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari. |
Imaos
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Posted - 2008.04.15 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin
Odd ship naming thing: Gallente Obelisk vs Caldari Charon? Shouldn't they be switched?
An obelisk is the connection between the gods and the mortal realm. So I think it is a fitting name for a ship that transports goods from the factory workers to the gods in the pods. And it is no (mythical) animal either.
A more fitting name in my understanding of the caldari names would be Scarab or Ant. Animals that can haul a multitude of their own weight and are industrious.
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Originally by: NoNah
My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari. |
Diomidis
Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.15 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Venus Felix What about the Charon (Caldari freighter). According to Dictionary.com and wikipedia it seems to be a ferryman from Greek mythology and most certainly not an animal. Seems more fitting for a Gallente ship.
Some Greek input:
The Greek "Genesis" or "Theogony" (Theo-God, goni = parent -> "Genesis" = birth) speaks of the Titans that gave birth to our world:
According to Hesiod's Theogony (the origin of the gods), Chaos was the nothingness out of which the first objects of existence appeared. These first beings, depicted as children of Chaos alone, were Gaia (the Earth), Tartarus (the Underworld), Nyx (the darkness of the night), Erebus (the darkness of the Underworld), and Eros (sexual love). These beings and the first generation of beings produced by them (the Sky, Ouranos, and the Sea, Pontus) constitute, for Hesiod, the fundamental cosmic deities.
Gaia (Earth) gave birth to the Titan Uranus (Father Sky, and also the world for Sky in modern & ancient greek). Then they fornicated to give birth to Rhea. Chronos or "Father Time" aka. Aeon (the Eternal Time)mixed with the seed of "Sky's and Earths" mix to give birth to the Modern Gods: Zeus (Deus, Dias in Greek), Hades and Poseidon.
Chronos, the wise "Time" that knew of all that came and will come ate his children out of fear of them becoming stronger than their father. Zeus, the strongest of them all, managed to escape of his father's "body imprisonment" by castrating him inside -> out. The Chronos was unable to control world's fate after that, and his son's revolted against their titan ancestors in order to claim leadership and lead the world to a new Era.
When the "modern" Greek Gods destroyed the Titans, the three brothers, divided the World into three: Zeus, took over the Earth and Sky, Poseidon ruled the Seas while Hades was the master of the Underworld.
Charon -> originally named "Charos" in Greek, is Death himself. Charos is also known as "Thanatos" (Physical Death in Greek) He was the "ferryman" of Hades that carried fallen souls from Earth to the Underworld on his boat, through the "Acheron" (the river of sorrow) that divided those realms. Corpses in some regions in ancient Greece were buried or burned with 2 gold coins, called an aureus, on their eyes to pay the fare or inside their mouth.
His god-brother is "Hypnos" (Sleep in Greek) that dominated the world of Dreams. (another Mythical God used for ECM module names).
Thorax: Thorax is the upper Torso in Greek, the rib cage to be precise. Thorax is also the name for the piece of armor covering a soldier's upper torso. The "x" gives a bit of a Celt flavor, like Gosini did for Asterix's fellow heroes.
Dominix: Domini (latin) + the "x" Celt flavor.
Myrmidon: Myrmidons where King's Achilles nation. Famous for their strength and loyalty. Achilles was NOT alone
Archon : Greek word for "Leader". Arch Priest etc
Anathema : A word for "Curse" (katara) in Greek.
Helios: Greek word for Sun.
Nemesis: in Greek mythology was the spirit of divine retribution
Cerberus: the 3-headed dog / beast of Hades, guarding the gates to the Underworld.
Phobos: Greek word for Fear, son of Ares (Mars) - the god of War.
Oneiros: Greek word for Dream Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
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Faife
Blackrain Solutions Twilight Trade Cartel
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Posted - 2008.04.15 16:28:00 -
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itt: redundancy
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Jin Entres
Malevolent Intervention Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 16:39:00 -
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They really need to name the next new caldari ship boob. It will be a source of endless hilarity. --- CEO
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Canine Fiend
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 16:48:00 -
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Albatross would be an awful name for a Caldari ship. The albatross can fly for hundreds of miles and hardly flap its wings. Have you ever seen a Caldari ship try and cross a 200 AU system?
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Myrkala
Minmatar Aurora Acclivitous
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Posted - 2008.04.15 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Myrkala on 15/04/2008 17:08:45 What about the "Rokh" ?
It really sounds like the word for "Strong/Harsh Wind" in Icelandic. (Rok)
Any other ideas?
Edit:
I think it can mean "Chess" in Iranian... "Ruppie ain't no puppie." |
Kusha'an
Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kusha''an on 15/04/2008 17:09:12
Originally by: Kyra Felann
Originally by: Kusha'an Well that makes total sense since Gallente are of French origin.
Yeah, and Caldari are descended from birds, right?
I mean, ship names have to deal 100% solely with the race's origin, obviously.
LOL well that's an absurd statement, considering that nearly 100% (all?) of Gallente ships DO NOT have French names.
Originally by: welsh wizard stupid falcon pilots uncloak all the time coz they think they need to surface for air.
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Kravick Drasari
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Posted - 2008.04.15 18:16:00 -
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I would like to point out to everyone that said the hyena is a canine. The hyena is not a canine. Its a hyaenidae. Yes, it has its own family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyena
Kingdom: Animalia Phylum: Chordata Class: Mammalia Order: Carnivora Suborder: Feliformia Family: Hyaenidae
Just wanted to clarify that hyenas don't traditionally hunt. They are scavengers. --- My cat Putter approves of this post. Be a Ninja! You know you want too: http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?Kravick |
Jadiin
Mindstar Technology The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasari I would like to point out to everyone that said the hyena is a canine. The hyena is not a canine. Its a hyaenidae. Yes, it has its own family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyena
Kingdom: Animalia Phylum: Chordata Class: Mammalia Order: Carnivora Suborder: Feliformia Family: Hyaenidae
Just wanted to clarify that hyenas don't traditionally hunt. They are scavengers.
Well thank god for clarifying that.
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Dheorl
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Entres They really need to name the next new caldari ship boob. It will be a source of endless hilarity.
I was stupid enough to google this in the hope it would come up with some sort of mythical creature... I suppose for some of you girls may be considered mythical but that's not really the point.
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Kravick Drasari
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jadiin
Originally by: Kravick Drasari I would like to point out to everyone that said the hyena is a canine. The hyena is not a canine. Its a hyaenidae. Yes, it has its own family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyena
Kingdom: Animalia Phylum: Chordata Class: Mammalia Order: Carnivora Suborder: Feliformia Family: Hyaenidae
Just wanted to clarify that hyenas don't traditionally hunt. They are scavengers.
Well thank god for clarifying that.
Yes I had to correct that horrible misinformation. It was eating at my soul! --- My cat Putter approves of this post. Be a Ninja! You know you want too: http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?Kravick |
Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tasko Pal on 15/04/2008 20:53:35
Originally by: Imaos
Last time I checked the historians were still debating if the celts ever made the move to come to britain (as the british isles belonged to Rome at that time). Also the celts were originally continental, coming from an area around Hallstatt/Austria. The greeks called them Keltoi. The Romans called them the celtae, galli (the courageous, the noble). As the name taranis comes from a roman sage of that time, I'd say it is more a god of continental europe. Taranis, Taran, Donar, Thor, Tanarus, Taranus ... Many names of different groups for a god with similar portfolio.
This is clearly much more interesting than whatever the thread was originally about.
As I understand it, the Irish, Welsh, and Picts were all Celtic tribes. The Scots were some sort of mix of Celt and Viking. I could be wrong, but I gather there's all sorts of correlations: linguistics, genetics, art, religion, technology, warfare, etc. Nor would the British Isles have belonged to Rome at the time that the Celts would have migrated to the British Isles. I gather the Celts started spreading out up to a millenium before Rome became a significant power. Further, due to the Celts mastery of iron weaponry, they'd have rolled over whoever was residing in the Isles at the time.
In any case, there were people living in Great Britian before the Celts, there were Celts in Britian long before the Romans, then there were Vikings, Normans, and all sorts of Queere Folke.
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Man'corr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.15 23:03:00 -
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Just to nitpick on the Dominix.
You have to strike out the x as coolness factor meaning absolutely nothing.
And then you are left with Domini. Which has two potential translations: (none of the meaning "the lord")
First it would be plural and ofc translated: the lords
Or it is a 2. "casus" (Latin dunno the englisch language doesnt have em....so i cant give you a better word for it), which denotes a "belonging to" of some form.
Second we have a: Belonging to the lord. Eg. "domus domini" the house of the lord.
So dunno about it, but it is fuzzy about its meaning. That ship that is..... All of above post was formulated wth 100% honesty and 100% sarcasm. Now i only need to get drunk
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Elhina Novae
Amarr Stone Shadow Syndicate deadspace society
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Posted - 2008.04.15 23:40:00 -
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Every ship in the Minmatar race is linked to Norse Mythology. I am too tired too explain at this moment lol Somebody set up us the bomb |
Dyaven
Gallente Attention Limited
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Posted - 2008.04.16 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Elhina Novae Every ship in the Minmatar race is linked to Norse Mythology. I am too tired too explain at this moment lol
Seems like it's only the capitals and a few of their T2 ships to me. ---- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams |
Valenthra
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.04.16 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven
Originally by: Elhina Novae Every ship in the Minmatar race is linked to Norse Mythology. I am too tired too explain at this moment lol
Seems like it's only the capitals and a few of their T2 ships to me.
Took a closer look and it seems only the Capital ships are and some T2 ships :/ Why I don't understand there are so many names that could be used, such as the gods, many events.
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari Stickler inc
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Posted - 2008.04.16 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Jmanis Catharg on 16/04/2008 01:16:40
Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 11/04/2008 20:24:33
Originally by: Dheorl
Caldari is animals (mainly birds)
They also have several mythical creatures. Rokh, Griffon, & Chimera for example.
Albiet Mythical Birds.
Also, re: ferox and Scorpion, only things I could find were this vaugely related question:
"Why is a bird used sometimes for the Scorpio star sign instead of a Scorpion?"
And ferox is actually a bird IIRC, although I'm still digging up info on it. EDIT: Ah, got it: Myiarchus Ferox
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.04.16 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Imaos
Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin
Odd ship naming thing: Gallente Obelisk vs Caldari Charon? Shouldn't they be switched?
An obelisk is the connection between the gods and the mortal realm. So I think it is a fitting name for a ship that transports goods from the factory workers to the gods in the pods. And it is no (mythical) animal either.
A more fitting name in my understanding of the caldari names would be Scarab or Ant. Animals that can haul a multitude of their own weight and are industrious.
Imaos
Scarab WOULD be a better name for the caldari freighter than Charon, simply because of the prevaling animal theme of Caldari Ships. Charon if I'm not mistaken is the being who captains the barge that ferries souls across the river Styx. |
Phyridean
Lionsgate Ionic Dispersion Abyss Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.16 03:32:00 -
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French is also quite closely related to Latin, hence its classification as a Romance language.
Also, where did the Amarr get the Maller?
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