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alpha charlie
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc My setup, let me show you it.
3x Light Ion IIs w/ Antimatter
1MN MWD II Faint Warp Prohibitor I Langor Drive Disruptor
Pseudoelectron Contantment Field I 2x Magstab II
2x Hobgoblin II
DPS (with my skills): 216
Speed (with my skill and implants): 4217m/s
Using full set of 3% rogues plus Zor's Hyperlink.
This is a good setup and if people think that a blaster ranis cant kill fast ceptors are ******s
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: Mithrantir Ob''lontra on 09/04/2008 08:51:54 Edited by: Mithrantir Ob''lontra on 09/04/2008 08:49:56
Originally by: Dearest Wish
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Dearest Wish Edited by: Dearest Wish on 09/04/2008 04:35:54
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin rail ranis makes speed ceptors cry.
You have to be mentally re tar ded to be caught by a taranis in any other interceptor. So....
heres what happens
taranis jump in crow on gate
crow goes haha taranis lets see him track this
crow then goes !?
Crow then goes 10km/s orbiting at 28kms well out of railgun range and decimates the taranis pilot.
Are you seriously saying that? Have you ever tried that setup? Because rail enyo does make speed intys cry a lot.
If you are talking based on rumors you are trolling.
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Gamesguy
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Posted - 2008.04.09 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dearest Wish
Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Megan Maynard 2*pi*radius=time of one orbit
2*pi/time=rad/second
all this gives you angular velocity of target divided by distance to target=angular velocity you need to track target.
at 15km going 10km/s good luck hitting it with turrets.
After around 7 km/s orbit velocity turrets, besides a dictor with mods, can't hit you.
Crow is nasty.
Its quite easy to kill a crow with any gun inty. You merely get into a tail chase position where transversal is greatly reduced.
So what you're telling me, is if the enemy pilot is terrible you can beat him?
Fascinating, let me take notes.
What I'm telling you is the crow is the worst inty for anti-inty work. Please enlighten me as to how you can kill my beamsader in a crow. I'm dying to know.
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dearest Wish
Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Megan Maynard 2*pi*radius=time of one orbit
2*pi/time=rad/second
all this gives you angular velocity of target divided by distance to target=angular velocity you need to track target.
at 15km going 10km/s good luck hitting it with turrets.
After around 7 km/s orbit velocity turrets, besides a dictor with mods, can't hit you.
Crow is nasty.
Tracking in Eve doesn't work that way. The Crow will be running an mwd which inflates its sig radius, making it effectively many times easier to track.
Stop posting. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Daer Vechesier
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Posted - 2008.04.09 11:06:00 -
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As opposed to everyone saying t2 neuts with 2 magstabs is the gankbuild, id say t2 ions with 3 magstabs and a t2 rof rig does alot more dps.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.04.09 11:20:00 -
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H: 3x T2 Electrons, 1x salvager M: T2 MWD, 20km scram, X5 Web L: 2x MFS2, SAR2
Rigs: Hybrid collision, Polycarb
Drones: 2x Hobgoblin Is (got get around to T2 drones sometime)
222 total dps, 4.6k/s speed.
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Stylom
Gallente Absolutely No Retreat Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.09 12:10:00 -
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This is my current Taranis set up
H: 3x 125 RailGun II H: Prototype Cloak I
M: 1mn MWD II M: Langour Drive Disrputor M: Warp Disruptor II
L: Nanofibre Internal Structure II L: Overdrive Injector System II L: Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dearest Wish
Gisti B type - 30mil Domi Scram - 130mil Poly Carbonx2 - 100 mil
Going 15km/s Easy as having a tiny bit of spare isk to put into your invincible interceptor.
Also who flies solo in a frigate? Ohh right...the same kind of person who puts rails on a taranis...
:lol:
flying solo in a frigate puts hair on your chest considering anything worth shooting will log off on entry
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Schneiderr
Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:02:00 -
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basicly its all about the piloting. its not up to you in the ranis to catch that nasty crow on your overview. it about getting the crow going after you.
most crow pilots are just like.. i got speed haha, slow ranis cant get me, i pwn! if you see a crow at gate whatever, try to play with him, warp to gate, mwd around, lock him and fire a shot even without doing damage cause you are out of range. at one point he starts to dislike you even if he didnt want to engage in the first place.
when you notice this, mwd away, let him come after you, when the crow is about to get into scramble range (so few moments before the crow will start entering its default set orbit most lazy pilots tend to use), turn around, fire your scram and web, kill it. if he escapes out of web range, thats if you missed the right moment to turn around, repeat...
this is just very basic, piloting skills are the key and perception for sure. needs some training of course. overheating your web before activating it the first time might help a little bit.
three nice little ranis movies can be found in this thread, which are at least able to show you some basics and that the ranis is quite cool
3x neutron blaster (null/faction ammo), small nos t2 mwd, named web, named disruptor mpac, t2 overdrive, t2 damage control
does a quite good job, as do some other setups for sure. just dont try to outrun other ceptors with fitting for speed.
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sakana
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:08:00 -
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3 x neutrons, 1 x offline mod to act as heatsink
t2 mwd, fleeting web, faint warp prohibitor
mag stab, damage control, MAPC
1 x hybrid damage rig, 1 x hybrid RoF rig
hobgob IIs.
OR
3 x ion, 1 x offline mod as heatsink
t2 mwd, fleeting web, faint warp prohibitor
2 x mag stab, 1 x damage control
no rigs.
ion setup does slightly more DPS, neutron setup has higher alpha and slightly better range.
overload your web, pull him out his orbit, approach/web/kill.
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Corstaad
Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:24:00 -
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I wouldn't pimp any of the close range ceptors your going to lose them to random numbers and T1 frigs. There fun ships to fly but its stupid to spend 200M on fittings to catch crows when out of the blue a rifter or dessie slaughters you.
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UMEE
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: UMEE on 09/04/2008 14:29:26
Originally by: Schneiderr basicly its all about the piloting. its not up to you in the ranis to catch that nasty crow on your overview. it about getting the crow going after you.
most crow pilots are just like.. i got speed haha, slow ranis cant get me, i pwn! if you see a crow at gate whatever, try to play with him, warp to gate, mwd around, lock him and fire a shot even without doing damage cause you are out of range. at one point he starts to dislike you even if he didnt want to engage in the first place.
when you notice this, mwd away, let him come after you, when the crow is about to get into scramble range (so few moments before the crow will start entering its default set orbit most lazy pilots tend to use), turn around, fire your scram and web, kill it. if he escapes out of web range, thats if you missed the right moment to turn around, repeat...
this is just very basic, piloting skills are the key and perception for sure. needs some training of course. overheating your web before activating it the first time might help a little bit.
three nice little ranis movies can be found in this thread, which are at least able to show you some basics and that the ranis is quite cool
3x neutron blaster (null/faction ammo), small nos t2 mwd, named web, named disruptor mpac, t2 overdrive, t2 damage control
does a quite good job, as do some other setups for sure. just dont try to outrun other ceptors with fitting for speed.
thanks =) this setup and the movies pretty much answer all my questions.
p.s. keep the discussion rolling tho, this should be the official [TRI] setup thread.
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Jericho Alar
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Dearest Wish
Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Megan Maynard 2*pi*radius=time of one orbit
2*pi/time=rad/second
all this gives you angular velocity of target divided by distance to target=angular velocity you need to track target.
at 15km going 10km/s good luck hitting it with turrets.
After around 7 km/s orbit velocity turrets, besides a dictor with mods, can't hit you.
Crow is nasty.
Tracking in Eve doesn't work that way. The Crow will be running an mwd which inflates its sig radius, making it effectively many times easier to track.
Stop posting. You have no idea what you're talking about.
The tracking guide. On this site. Use it.
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Voltron
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:04:00 -
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3 x t2 150's (uranium ammo, never use spike, carry iron and antimatter as well) 1 x offlined small remote rep
1 x t2 1mn mwd 1 x t2 warp disruptor 1 x whatever (web/sensor booster/cap charger)
1 x t2 nano 2 x t2 od
2 x t2 warriors
Ceptor 5 and motion prediction 5 will give you great tracking on the guns.
Volt
It's great touching your own dink isn't it?
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tarin adur
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dearest Wish
Originally by: tarin adur Edited by: tarin adur on 09/04/2008 03:49:04 3x Light ion II with null
MWD II x5 Web(or better) Disruptor II
2x Overdrive II Damage Control II
Warriors II
This is a terrible fit. Fit 2x MFS II, downgrade the t2 MWD to a best named 1mn, downgrade the WD II to a Faint Epsilon. You get .25 CPU left over. Except you get non laughable DPS.
The taranis is ment to be flown as a more nimble and less expensive Deimos. If you want to go vroom vroom and tackle fly an ares. 3.8km/s with the above is more than sufficient for getting in and staying in range.
Lol, yes i'd love to see your 4.2km/s gank set-up get anywhere near any interceptor with half a brain, taranis being the slowest ceptor out there...it needs all the speed it can get, all that dps = 0 if you can't get in range...which 95% of the time you won't.
If you think you can do better thought, come to syndicate and i'l be happy to show you what my set-up can do.
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Draeca
Happy Carebears Inc. Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dearest Wish
Crow then goes 10km/s orbiting at 28kms well out of railgun range and decimates the taranis pilot.
Ranis pilot does few manual maneuvers and suddenly the crow pilot is webbed.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: tarin adur
taranis being the slowest ceptor out there...
No, that's the Raptor.
But I agree that a "gank" fitted (or tanked up) Taranis is pretty worthless against fast interceptors. If they are going fast, chances are they have less dps and tank than you anyway, even if you fit the lows completely for speed. You just need to get them webbed, and for that speed is the crucial part.
My anti-interceptor blaster Taranis is like this:
highs: 3 x ion blaster II (with null ammo) mids: 1 x mwd II, 1 x warp scrambler II, 1 x stasis webifier II lows: 2 x overdrive injector II, 1 x nanofiber II drones: 2 x hobgoblin II
Does 6052 m/s with my skills (navigation 5 and acceleration control 4) and puts out 134 dps.
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Antodias
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.09 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Antodias on 09/04/2008 16:26:23
Originally by: Draeca
Originally by: Dearest Wish
Crow then goes 10km/s orbiting at 28kms well out of railgun range and decimates the taranis pilot.
Ranis pilot does few manual maneuvers and suddenly the crow pilot is webbed.
This.
You don't need overdrives or nanos, crows are easy enough to catch as it is. Even Gistii crows get*****y when they see a ranis enter hull, and usually get too close when it looks as if its running away.
And even if you can't catch it, you're always able to get away.
Also Ranis + Claymore in gang is when things start getting silly
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Jericho Alar
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.04.10 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Draeca
Originally by: Dearest Wish
Crow then goes 10km/s orbiting at 28kms well out of railgun range and decimates the taranis pilot.
Ranis pilot does few manual maneuvers and suddenly the crow pilot is webbed.
if the crow pilot is asleep at the wheel or thinks he's playing easy-online maybe.
crow is faster than the taranis pilot so if he catches radial going positive he can and should break off the orbit and kite - as long as he's outside 18km taranis accuracy even with rails is going to be junk regardless of transversal (of course, he's probably giving up the disruptor lock at this point since it's easy for the 'ranis to get an escape vector)
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Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.04.10 18:00:00 -
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If I can track Crows in my Zealot with some crafty manual piloting, surely any interceptor with frig sized guns and enough range should be able to do it.
As for the Taranis, in blaster fitting it's not the best anti-inty inty, but it is nice for killing cruisers and even battleships who don't have webs. When going for interceptors though, just overheat web, mwd, and manual pilot until you can get the other guy in web range.
I tried a gankranis for a while, but after I failed to last long enough (cap and armor) to kill a sniperpest, I decided to go back to this oldschool setup which works fine: 3x ions, nos mwd, web, scram rep, mapc, mfs 2x drones, no rigs
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