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Apomixis
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:04:00 -
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I have recently recieved a notebook with an 8800M GTX in it It is running Vista x64 as far as I know the display drivers are up to date but I will happily check if required. It was all fully updated and only got here yesterday.
In eve, in windows or fullscreen mode. I am getting 5 seconds freeze ups every 4 or 5 mins then 5 seconds after it goes to a black screen and the screen comes back. Eve resumes playing assuming I havent been killed to a bug and vista complains in system tray that the display device stopped working.
I have been unable to replicate the issue in UT3 however I will continue to try different games.
Can CCP please talk with Nvidia or something so I dont have to resort to installing unofficial drivers... please. oh yeah this is in premium mode btw in the native resolution of 1920x1200, havent checked classic yet. Had the shadow detail on normal and hdr bloom on high
Obviously I cannot play eve on my new notebook or I'm going to get myself killed or fry my video card.
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Darwin Duck
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:08:00 -
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Have the exact same problem now and then on my 7900, comes and goes. Think it's heat related.
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Apomixis
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Apomixis on 02/04/2008 16:12:58 how can it be heat related if the thing is running UT3 at full pelt on full settings And its not every now and then its constant mate - we're talking every 5 mins literally and thats being nice its probably more frequent than that.
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Apomixis
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:14:00 -
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wow look how busy the forums are these days...
I can only hope ccp sees this.
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Darwin Duck
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:14:00 -
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Well, nothing heats my GPU as much as EVE:premium. Oblivion for instance don't even come close. I see I can go over 80oC on the GPU in stations with EVE.
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Apomixis
Universal-Corp The Nexus Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:19:00 -
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well i guess theres one way to find out... I can start turning off settings I can play with the resolution and let it scale. I can drop to classic mode although isnt that running an old version of dx9?
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trylleklovn
Core Element Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:22:00 -
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if you run eve in windowed you will prolly see this message
"Display Driver nvlddmkm stopped responding, has successfully recovered"
if so you have some options, as there are some vista fixes on mircosofts homepage, also nvidia has them linked on their pages, try googling it.
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RaTTuS
BIG Soul of Fountain
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:23:00 -
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run the log server, switch off audio run interval = 1 run windowed run in a system with few plantes ?
does anything help
the classic client is not old dx it is just not shiny gfx
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Aristolan
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:35:00 -
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I had the same thing on my desktop. I have an ATI HD3870 and an AMD 5600+ X2, 4GB, XP-64bit. I installed ATI 8.3 cat hotfix (does not apply to you OP) and changed power management in XP from minimal to always on(might apply to you OP). This prevents windows XP from throttling your CPU/changing CPU multiplier. Now, I don't know for sure if this or the catalyst hotfix was the solution to the stuttering, but I noticed FPS dropped to ~0 as soon as the multiplier changed. So give it a try I hope it helps you
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Anson Niven
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:09:00 -
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I have the same problem. I also have an Nvidia card but I think that is where the similarity ends. Only solution I can find is to just restart EvE and then it's cleared up for an hour or so. In my case it clearly isn't a thermal issue. Been this way since RMR so I doubt I'll see a fix ever. On the upside my new Conan beta is looking better and better.
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Alyth
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Darwin Duck Well, nothing heats my GPU as much as EVE:premium. Oblivion for instance don't even come close. I see I can go over 80oC on the GPU in stations with EVE.
Is that a Vsync issue? If you notice, when you dock sometimes your framerate goes up to something stupid like 400fps. Try setting interval 1 (I think that's vsync on anyways) and see if that helps? -------------------------------------------
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Mike Rowlings
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:43:00 -
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I would say that is either a thermal (high temp) or a driver issue.
To rule out it's not a thermal issue monitor your GPU's temp. If it's within normal values you should then check that your drivers are up to date. If they are and EVE is still playing up, it could be the case that you need older drivers, but only through experimentation will you find that out (I know this seems odd and paradoxal, but it's happened to me a couple of times :)
Failing all that, I really wouldn't know. Maybe some incompatibility w/ Vista?
I wish you luck though, hope you sort out whatever's giving you headaches.
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Sensor Echo
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:57:00 -
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*cough* known issues*cough*
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Darwin Duck
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Darwin Duck on 02/04/2008 19:58:34 Great today the problem is back. Some days it's fine and some days the problem is there. And today is one of those days. arrgh
I hear in corp chat another corp member got it for the first time today. So damn annoying.
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Mike Rowlings
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Posted - 2008.04.03 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Darwin Duck Edited by: Darwin Duck on 02/04/2008 19:58:34 Great today the problem is back. Some days it's fine and some days the problem is there. And today is one of those days. arrgh
I hear in corp chat another corp member got it for the first time today. So damn annoying.
I'm wondering as to what net connection you're on? I sometimes get hiccups in-game, which is due to either EVE servers not responding fast enough or to a sudden momentarily spike in latency on the net backbone, though usually it's pretty fast for me. I'm on an ADSL, very low-latency, 20Mb up 2Mb down internet connection.
What connection are you on? Have you measured its latency?
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Bellum Eternus
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Posted - 2008.04.03 07:35:00 -
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OP: how much ram do you have? Not on the vid card, but system mem? What size cache are you running? Is Eve hitting your HD at all? Running a ram drive with the Eve cache on it?
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Cpt Cosmic
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:02:00 -
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hallo apomixis :) well you have bad luck, its a vista/gpu driver thing which still isnt fixxed.
the reason why your screen freezes is vista detects a timeout on a thread of a process that the gpu is working on and then it tells the gpu to deload the graphic card and restart it, that usually takes a "nanosecond" and you realise a very short glitch but sometimes vista screws the gpu driver and then it freezes :)
some people have this problem some dont, and the best thing no one knows how this rly happens.
e.g. I have the 8600GT and all works fine except on every fu**ing source engine game where I have one freezer every ~24h of gameplay :)
here is the windows linky for a more technical explanation: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/wddm_timeout.mspx
what you can try is to make a registriy key like described in the link called TdrDebugMode @HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers and set it to "3", maybe that helps you.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:37:00 -
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i run vista 32bit whit 8600gt (512mb) on my laptop.. im installing 64bit vista soon as im going to upgrade to 4gb.
whit 32bit it runs perfect. i have run up to 3 accounts on the laptop whitout much trouble.
my pc has 8800gts whit vista 64bit and on that its fine aswell.
try the known issues forum.. there might be something usefull there :) ---------------------------------- MY VIEW ARE MY OWN, I DON'T REPRESENT MY CORPORATIONS VIEWS HERE... stop mailing me.. plz
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Ranger802004
Knights Of the Black Sun Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:53:00 -
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I have the same problem on Call of Duty 4 in Vista on anything over an X800 video card...it's 100% software related with Vista, because it doens't do it in XP
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Tamia Clant
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Tamia Clant on 03/04/2008 11:44:35
Originally by: Apomixis Edited by: Apomixis on 02/04/2008 16:12:58 how can it be heat related if the thing is running UT3 at full pelt on full settings And its not every now and then its constant mate - we're talking every 5 mins literally and thats being nice its probably more frequent than that.
From personal experience, I've found a graphics card tends to heat up very fast when rendering several hundred frames per second. Running an intensive application such as UT3 doesn't have such a drastic effect if the card is working at a low framerate.
Ever since the EVE engine has been upgraded to use GPUs more efficiently, it's common for some cards to render something like 500 frames per second on some occasions, which will often generate a lot of heat on the card. You can set EVE so the framerate is limited to 60 FPS, by setting an option in the Graphics menu to "Interval One".
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Qwakrz
Suon Tactical Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: Qwakrz on 03/04/2008 13:03:38 Had exactly these problems but because I run window mode I can see the driver recover.
I downloaded the new Beta drivers from here and this has so far (for the last 2 weeks) fixed my crashing 8800GTS (I run the 174.51 beta but the newer ones should also work)
I can rule out overheating (I am on water and GPU never goes above 42C).
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Darwin Duck
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Posted - 2008.04.03 17:31:00 -
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It's not just a Vista problem, I have the same thing in XP.
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Darwin Duck
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Posted - 2008.04.04 13:35:00 -
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After some investigation (my own experiences and the last few days I have talked to others with this problem). I have noticed that when this problem starts it goes on until server reset. If I first have it one day it stays that way until server reset no matter what I do to fix it, after server reset it's fine again. A few days later it can return and then stays until server reset again. So the problem should be serverside. However it is very wierd that only some people get it and others never see it. Very wierd indeed.
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