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postal dude
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: postal dude on 28/03/2008 09:53:58 Inspired by this picture and this thread I looked into the Logserver to see what is possible. Goonswarm said that this was fake, but the information on that wiki-screenshot are too detailed for that its fake, so I guess the "bee-tracker" is a real program. I also guess this is widely used out there by the big alliances... Dev 'CCP Xhagen' said that this is NOT considered illegal / against EULA. 
This is what I got so far:
This is the main window, written in C# with some external c-programs
ingame view: detailed view of a single system
ingame view: overview over all tracked systems
Its looking, like the beetracker, for scatter-events but not only for "JoinChannel" but also for docking/undocking and chatmessages.
A central server collects the data and pareses it for datamining and ingame intel. Also it can warn you if a neutral jumps into your system, useful for ratting. The standings are provided by my other app.
As I said, I think that the big alliances are using such tools. And please note: this is only a program developed by me and has nothing to do with my corp or alliance.
Conclusion: It works, but I think there is a much easier way to get all the data, but this is the only way (I think) this is not an eula-violation. ---
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Cori4n
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.29 00:06:00 -
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I think you win at EVE. Well, you beat me at least: I've been wanting to make something like that for quite a while, and while I did make a working local display, I haven't managed to actually do the whole centralization of intel thing.
Tell me, are you emulating, or using the logserver? Ignoring any EULA issues, I've had success with the former but not gotten it quite right. In the latter case, are you using CCPServerModeSave, or just waiting for it to spit stuff out?
Also, do you have a good method for checking who is *already* in a system that the person using the program enters or logs on in?
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Chruker
Murky Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.29 02:11:00 -
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I seem to recall somewhere in the EULA that it states that the logserver output cant be used for data mining.
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postal dude
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.29 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cori4n Also, do you have a good method for checking who is *already* in a system that the person using the program enters or logs on in?
I dont want to answer the other questions you asked here in this thread (contact me over eve), but this one I can: Its not possible with the logserver. You have to read the EVE-Clients memory for that, and thats DEFINITELY against the EULA (so don't do it!) ---
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Coconut Joe
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Posted - 2008.03.29 12:53:00 -
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What a great program. Can I ask, how were you able to deduce all the info in the hex files? I've never manipulated files written in hex before, and when I opened on in HxD it was rather overwhelming. - Eve IGB Store Template - The complete eve retail solution. |

postal dude
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.01 09:41:00 -
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So as I got quite a few eve-mails about this:
I don't think its such a good idea to publish the source code of this. Its a bit ugly and not well documented, so writing your own implementation should be easier. ---
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.01 17:16:00 -
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As far as idea is very clear, writing own program should not be that hard. I may have it even smaller and easier... don't ask how, don't be lazy and guess. Thanks CCP for cu |

postal dude
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.01 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tonto Auri As far as idea is very clear, writing own program should not be that hard. I may have it even smaller and easier... don't ask how, don't be lazy and guess.
Directly read the local out of the eve-clients memory? Thats also no problem, but THATS an eula-violation. ---
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Cori4n
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.01 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: postal dude
Originally by: Tonto Auri As far as idea is very clear, writing own program should not be that hard. I may have it even smaller and easier... don't ask how, don't be lazy and guess.
Directly read the local out of the eve-clients memory? Thats also no problem, but THATS an eula-violation.
postal dude, you are really offline a lot 
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postal dude
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cori4n Directly read the local out of the eve-clients memory? Thats also no problem, but THATS an eula-violation.
postal dude, you are really offline a lot 
Yes, so are you I'll eve-mail you my ICQ#. ---
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postal dude
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:23:00 -
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A little update on this:
I have managed to emulate the logserver, it was quite easy to do:
Image.
Only thing now is to decode the format, but that shouldn't be a problem  ---
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