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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2012.02.29 05:01:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:It's true, they were all banned in the recent mass bot bannings. You guys were right, they were hypocrites and now you can safely mine ice anywhere. Heh, now to manually mine ice. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Willard Mitt Romney
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:14:00 -
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Razzor Death wrote:The Sardukar wrote:From twitter (EnderCapitalG is a member of Goonwaffe)
Andrew WigginGÇÅ@EnderCapitalG: So CCP went through and hit a lot of hbot users today. Don't run them 23.5/7 next time guys Andrew WigginGÇÅ@EnderCapitalG: Oh man. Just talked to several bot users and they said they were only hit with a 14 day ban You deliver every time Well this is a negative blow to the Goon Party's prestige. It's image projection or branding, as it were. Said projection of image seeming to be: Vile. Larcenous. Profane. Arrogant. Derisory. Creative (in terms of media productions). Elite. Moneyed. But here we see the brand image taking a smack. To wit, evidence is presented of Goons botting away, like anybody else. Like anybody else who needs isk -a lot of isk- and doesn't care how he gets it. Take Moneyed out of the brand image. Like anybody in a newly-industrialized country running an organized bot operation. Also take Elite out of the brand image. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:33:00 -
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Willard Mitt Romney wrote: Well this is a negative blow to the Goon Party's prestige. It's image projection or branding, as it were. Said projection of image seeming to be: .... Elite. Also take Elite out of the brand image.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Emphasis added
You heard that guys, people actually thought were were ~elite~? And only now realizing we are terrible at EVE Online, a Turret Titans Blapping Forever Game Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
189
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:52:00 -
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hey guys let me show you this retweet where someone in goonswarm says he talked to a botter
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The Sardukar
State Protectorate Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.02.29 18:09:00 -
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Willard Mitt Romney wrote: Well this is a negative blow to the Goon Party's prestige.
Dont bother. To quote The Mittani from his latest entry on Sins of a solar spymaster" over at Ten Ton Hammer:
"Because Goonswarm has thrived since September 2005 - making it one of the longest-lived alliances in the history of the game - there is no need for a Goonswarm pilot to generate or maintain an GÇÿEVE resumeGÇÖ[...] In practice, this means that Goons [...] can be outright bastards to everyone else in the EVE [...] and get away with it. The gameGÇÖs normal culture of honor doesnGÇÖt apply"
Look at this in view of this previously posted quote:
"One of our illustrious members (let's call him "Ibertizzle") keeps losing Tengus to Russians and French people. This is a sensitive - even a touchy - subject, so let me say that while he is, indeed, a keen ratter - a very keen ratter if we are honest - we have one rule in Goonswarm: we don't **** other goons. Oh and we don't play cop for CCP in their own game by reporting or petitioning goons, either: that's Darius Johnson's job."
So basically, not only does the "games normal culture of honor" not apply to the Goons in-game, it doesnt really apply to the Goons when it comes to the question of cheating either. Its up to CCP to catch them if they can. This is the culture that permeates the SA community, and I am afraid you just have to deal with it. |
baltec1
742
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Posted - 2012.02.29 18:20:00 -
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The Sardukar wrote:Willard Mitt Romney wrote: Well this is a negative blow to the Goon Party's prestige.
Dont bother. To quote The Mittani from his latest entry on Sins of a solar spymaster" over at Ten Ton Hammer: "Because Goonswarm has thrived since September 2005 - making it one of the longest-lived alliances in the history of the game - there is no need for a Goonswarm pilot to generate or maintain an GÇÿEVE resumeGÇÖ[...] In practice, this means that Goons [...] can be outright bastards to everyone else in the EVE [...] and get away with it. The gameGÇÖs normal culture of honor doesnGÇÖt apply" Look at this in view of this previously posted quote: "One of our illustrious members (let's call him "Ibertizzle") keeps losing Tengus to Russians and French people. This is a sensitive - even a touchy - subject, so let me say that while he is, indeed, a keen ratter - a very keen ratter if we are honest - we have one rule in Goonswarm: we don't **** other goons. Oh and we don't play cop for CCP in their own game by reporting or petitioning goons, either: that's Darius Johnson's job." So basically, not only does the "games normal culture of honor" not apply to the Goons in-game, it doesnt really apply to the Goons when it comes to the question of cheating either. Its up to CCP to catch them if they can. This is the culture that permeates the SA community, and I am afraid you just have to deal with it.
Context. You should stop taking out of it. |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
83
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Posted - 2012.02.29 19:48:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Don't listen to that guy.
You can just send the isk to me, but you can verify with any GoonWaffe director if you need to.
I'd send you a billion but I spent it in my vanity alliance name. As for Ice, I'm buying Strontium for the Dust bunny siege wars, keep your topes. |
Willard Mitt Romney
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.02.29 19:55:00 -
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The Sardukar wrote:Willard Mitt Romney wrote: Well this is a negative blow to the Goon Party's prestige.
Dont bother. To quote The Mittani from his latest entry on Sins of a solar spymaster" over at Ten Ton Hammer: "Because Goonswarm has thrived since September 2005 - making it one of the longest-lived alliances in the history of the game - there is no need for a Goonswarm pilot to generate or maintain an GÇÿEVE resumeGÇÖ[...] In practice, this means that Goons [...] can be outright bastards to everyone else in the EVE [...] and get away with it. The gameGÇÖs normal culture of honor doesnGÇÖt apply" Look at this in view of this previously posted quote: "One of our illustrious members (let's call him "Ibertizzle") keeps losing Tengus to Russians and French people. This is a sensitive - even a touchy - subject, so let me say that while he is, indeed, a keen ratter - a very keen ratter if we are honest - we have one rule in Goonswarm: we don't **** other goons. Oh and we don't play cop for CCP in their own game by reporting or petitioning goons, either: that's Darius Johnson's job." So basically, not only does the "games normal culture of honor" not apply to the Goons in-game, it doesnt really apply to the Goons when it comes to the question of cheating either. Its up to CCP to catch them if they can. This is the culture that permeates the SA community, and I am afraid you just have to deal with it. I see your point. But being 'outright bastards to everyone else in EVE' is one thing. Getting away with it is could even be considered commendable. You know, make enemies, be despicable, but you're tough enough that nobody can do much about it. But going outside the framework of the game and making isk (a resource for power) via bot mining-- that's another thing. Kind of puts a hole in the "I earned the right to be obnoxious" thing. |
Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.02.29 19:55:00 -
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This is a friendly reminder from the Bat Country Corporation, We love you High Sec and the Bat Country Corporation of justice will always be here for you whenever you become incapable of dealing with your own problems.
Please continue to leave your comments of admiration and respect below GÖÑ |
Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.02.29 19:57:00 -
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Apart from Lady Spank, when you have to put in more effort than the OP its time to rethink your strategy. |
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The Sardukar
State Protectorate Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.02.29 20:37:00 -
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Willard Mitt Romney wrote: I see your point. But being 'outright bastards to everyone else in EVE' is one thing. Getting away with it is could even be considered commendable. You know, make enemies, be despicable, but you're tough enough that nobody can do much about it. But going outside the framework of the game and making isk (a resource for power) via bot mining-- that's another thing. Kind of puts a hole in the "I earned the right to be obnoxious" thing.
It cuts deeper than that. The Mittani divides the EVE Community into "EVE born" and (outside) "community born", with Goons beeng an example of the latter originating from the somthing aweful community. He then goes on to praise how "community born" EVE players are freed form the shackles the "EVE born" players have to endure to gain accept into the greater EVE community (no scams, no corp thefts etc), i.e. free to be "absolute bastards" to other EVE players.
But there is one more important aspect to it that he does not mention directly. Because a community born EVE player draws his identity from outside of EVE, there is no real incentive to ensure that EVE succeeds. If EVE fails, they will just move on to play other games as a community. So cheating isnt really a big deal for them, as long as it serves the needs of their community. As a "EVE-born" EVE player you can thus rage all you want against cheating going on, but to be perfectly honest with you, they are not gonna care one tiny little bit. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1708
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Posted - 2012.02.29 20:38:00 -
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Willard Mitt Romney wrote:Razzor Death wrote:The Sardukar wrote:From twitter (EnderCapitalG is a member of Goonwaffe)
Andrew WigginGÇÅ@EnderCapitalG: So CCP went through and hit a lot of hbot users today. Don't run them 23.5/7 next time guys Andrew WigginGÇÅ@EnderCapitalG: Oh man. Just talked to several bot users and they said they were only hit with a 14 day ban You deliver every time Well this is a negative blow to the Goon Party's prestige. It's image projection or branding, as it were. Said projection of image seeming to be: Vile. Larcenous. Profane. Arrogant. Derisory. Creative (in terms of media productions). Elite. Moneyed. But here we see the brand image taking a smack. To wit, evidence is presented of Goons botting away, like anybody else. Like anybody else who needs isk -a lot of isk- and doesn't care how he gets it. Take Moneyed out of the brand image. Like anybody in a newly-industrialized country running an organized bot operation. Also take Elite out of the brand image.
Oh no...OUR PRESTIGE
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.02.29 20:44:00 -
[193] - Quote
our COURAGEHONOURDUTY |
Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.02.29 20:45:00 -
[194] - Quote
Or something to that extent |
Willard Mitt Romney
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.02.29 22:16:00 -
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Razzor Death wrote:Apart from Lady Spank, when you have to put in more effort than the OP its time to rethink your strategy. No worries, it's actually a pleasure. We're not really speaking to Goons anyway. You guys don't really fight back, you usually just respond with 4-8 words saying basically 'har har har, I know you are-- what about me?' We're (I'm-- just speaking for myself actually) talking to the rest of EO. Why? Because your leader is running for CSM. Just trying to bring negative but true things out for the EO community to see. Nothing personal. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
189
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Posted - 2012.02.29 23:20:00 -
[196] - Quote
Willard Mitt Romney wrote: I see your point. But being 'outright bastards to everyone else in EVE' is one thing. Getting away with it is could even be considered commendable. You know, make enemies, be despicable, but you're tough enough that nobody can do much about it. But going outside the framework of the game and making isk (a resource for power) via bot mining-- that's another thing. Kind of puts a hole in the "I earned the right to be obnoxious" thing.
That's quite a leap, going from Goons don't do CCP's policing for them or report other Goons, to Goons are all involved in some bot conspiracy. Oh, of course you don't actually say that, but it's the conclusion you want to lead the reader to make as if it were some kind of established fact and not the wild conjecture that it actually is.
Hmm, all those botter bannings, and yet NPC kills in Deklein systems haven't really dropped. Is CCP complicit in Goons' botting, or was there just not really any botting to begin with? If you're certain it's the former then I have a long form Kenyan birth certificate to sell you and if you act now I'll throw in a grassy knoll at no additional charge. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.02.29 23:38:00 -
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PM me for info on how to setup a bot network.
PLEASE NOTE: i WILL NOT respond to anyone that is EVE-born ok. community born ONLY
Please send a copy of your birth certificate in your message. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:50:00 -
[198] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Oh no...OUR PRESTIGE
Razzor Death wrote:our COURAGEHONOURDUTY We;re gonna start cascading right now.
Johnny Marzetti wrote:I have a long form Kenyan birth certificate to sell you and if you act now I'll throw in a grassy knoll at no additional charge. Grassy knolls in SPACE?
What would I want a birth certificate from Kenya for? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Endeavour Starfleet
682
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Posted - 2012.03.01 05:49:00 -
[199] - Quote
Goons if I may. While forum sillyness is fun I am requesting a response on that allegation of goons not reporting other goons.
Can you provide the full story on that and how things have changed? |
Lady Spink
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.03.01 06:57:00 -
[200] - Quote
Most of them have been banned.
I was able to infiltrate in gs. It seems some billions still give you possibilities.
I have reported about 50 bots in deklein region. Haven't seen them online since then.
I guess next time goonswarm announces a hulkagedddon, they tell their members to turn of their bots.
And ofcourse for 10 billion I will let someone in GS know which corp arranged my access. |
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.03.01 16:42:00 -
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Lady Spink wrote:Most of them have been banned.
I was able to infiltrate in gs. It seems some billions still give you possibilities.
I have reported about 50 bots in deklein region. Haven't seen them online since then.
I guess next time goonswarm announces a hulkagedddon, they tell their members to turn of their bots.
And ofcourse for 10 billion I will let someone in GS know which corp arranged my access.
A nice attempt at Goonswarm fanfiction but a little too much Mary Sue for my tastes. As long as it doesn't get into Mittani/DBRB slashfic I encourage you to continue posting your work.
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baltec1
744
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Posted - 2012.03.01 16:49:00 -
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Lady Spink wrote:Most of them have been banned.
I was able to infiltrate in gs. It seems some billions still give you possibilities.
I have reported about 50 bots in deklein region. Haven't seen them online since then.
I guess next time goonswarm announces a hulkagedddon, they tell their members to turn of their bots.
And ofcourse for 10 billion I will let someone in GS know which corp arranged my access.
Confiming we have all been banned as the reason to our slacking off and not because the bulk of our targets have been banned. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
747
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:09:00 -
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Razzor Death wrote: Things in this department have been running very smoothly with 4bill+ so far being paid out to those that ...
AKA: Shoot anything with a mining laser and let God sort 'em out.
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
58
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Posted - 2012.03.01 18:11:00 -
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So let me set the facts straight.
Goonswarm finds another way to manipulate the market by pro-activly setting forth in public which regions they are going to kill ice-miners as much as possible. Result: Prices for certain ice types go up and subsequentially their own bo... uhm sorry, ice mining players benefit from said price increase. System works rather well so they extend it by trying to get more people involved, the ones outside Goonswarm not knowing they are merely doing Goonswarms handywork in providing them a better income, and wrap it up then within the propoganda of a war against bots.
Meanwhile in Deklein the bo... sorry once again, the ice mining players (we all know how much certain people in Goonswarm love to mine ice activly) happily mine along.
The community not realising the plan behind it all falls over eachother in utter admiration without realising they are being manipulated and / or even used to benefit the Goonswarm. The ones crying about the whole thing refuse to gather up and pick up their pitchforks and torches to get rid of the menace for various reasons.
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baltec1
745
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Posted - 2012.03.01 18:23:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:So let me set the facts straight.
Goonswarm finds another way to manipulate the market by pro-activly setting forth in public which regions they are going to kill ice-miners as much as possible. Result: Prices for certain ice types go up and subsequentially their own bo... uhm sorry, ice mining players benefit from said price increase. System works rather well so they extend it by trying to get more people involved, the ones outside Goonswarm not knowing they are merely doing Goonswarms handywork in providing them a better income, and wrap it up then within the propoganda of a war against bots.
Meanwhile in Deklein the bo... sorry once again, the ice mining players (we all know how much certain people in Goonswarm love to mine ice activly) happily mine along.
The community not realising the plan behind it all falls over eachother in utter admiration without realising they are being manipulated and / or even used to benefit the Goonswarm. The ones crying about the whole thing refuse to gather up and pick up their pitchforks and torches to get rid of the menace for various reasons.
Fun fact. The price of Ice did not rise very far untill the EVEnews24 report that said go buy ice while its cheap. |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
58
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Posted - 2012.03.01 19:52:00 -
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Ow I know, it just proves how easy it is to manipulate the suckers at EN24
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Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.03.01 20:21:00 -
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Lady Spink wrote:Most of them have been banned.
I was able to infiltrate in gs. It seems some billions still give you possibilities.
I have reported about 50 bots in deklein region. Haven't seen them online since then.
I guess next time goonswarm announces a hulkagedddon, they tell their members to turn of their bots.
And ofcourse for 10 billion I will let someone in GS know which corp arranged my access. look anyone can make a reddit account |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
60
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Posted - 2012.03.01 21:21:00 -
[208] - Quote
Yes, and it requires "special" people to make a Goonswarm account.
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Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:00:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Yes, and it requires "special" people to make a Goonswarm account.
the :tenbux: mystique |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:23:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:...ice mining players...
No goons mine; let alone mine ice.
If you happen to find a goon mining Ice in Deklein please tell us as soon as possible so we can blow the **** out of them. Or do it yourself and I'll give you a nice little present.
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