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Joseph Calvert
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.03.26 03:37:00 -
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Hi,
I just bought me a nice new audio card, as the onboard card on my motherboard sucks (in my opinion). Now here's the issue: After installing the new card in the second PCI slot, when booting up the machine it won't actually load any OS (I use GRUB to multiboot). It complains about a wrong device, disk read error, and all kind of funny things. Turns out for some reason my DVD player isn't recognized anymore, and this changes the boot order I think. Removing the audio card turns everything back to normal If anyone has any idea after looking at the below specs, please enlighten me. The ONLY thing I can imagine even though I think it's BS, is that the audio card mentions a PCI 2.1 slot, and I can't tell from my motherboard manual if that's something I have or not. I would guess I do, as I don't think Creative would make audio cards that won't work in 1 year old motherboards.
Tech Specs Motherboard: ga-ma69vm-s2 with an AMD64+ 4200 Audio card: Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Extreme Audio Drives: 1 x SATA Disk (Windows does not know about this disk) 1 x regular IDE disk (which has windows on it) 1 x regular IDE DVD-RW drive Power supply: 430W Thermaltake
Thanks for checking this out, and please post any and all ideas! |
Kyanzes
Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.03.26 06:42:00 -
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Have you tried a different PCI slot? Also disable the onboard sound so resources won't be assigned to an unused device. In fact disable all unused devices. You really should try an other PCI slot. --------------------------------------------- GET TO THE CHOPPA!!! The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. |
Fink Angel
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:21:00 -
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Sounds like a nasty on to troubleshoot.
If you're using GRUB it's because you're dual booting Linux, and therefore fairly comfortable with Linux things?
I'd be inclined to download a Knoppix boot DVD, then:
Put the Sounblaster card into place Boot from Knoppix Look at where all the devices have ended up, particularly which device is you primary partition now Edit the grub boot ini file to point at wherever your windows partition has ended up
Looking at the Soundblaster support site, I can see no reason that it has moved any drives around.
One thing in your post warrants further explanation please: "1 x SATA Disk (Windows does not know about this disk)"
Why not? Just because it's EXT3 Linux formatted or something, or is there already an underlying hardware issue?
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:32:00 -
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Try a different pci slot. If that not works next solution is to assign via the BIOS a different IRQ key to the soundcard (most probably is taking the same IRQ key with one of your storage devices).
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Benco97
Exchangable Properties
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:33:00 -
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sounds like an IRQ collision, try your other PCI slots or reassign some IRQs in your BIOS
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Nelix Trist
Nostromo Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:39:00 -
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There's also another random possibility.
In some BIOS's there's an option to "Boot from PCI Device" This is normaly there to allow someone to boot from an SATA/IDE PCI adaptor.
You need to change eithere the sequance in which you have your PCI devices in your case, or even change the BIOS setting to not boot from PCI device.
See if that works. Emm?"Cant touch this" den der der dum, der dum der dum KILLING THE BUG'S, BEFORE THEY KILL YOU |
Saju Somtaaw
Amarrian Religious Reformation Society Exalted
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Posted - 2008.03.26 12:30:00 -
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It does sound like an IRQ error, take a look during boot-up at the screen that lists IRQs to make sure your drive with GRUB doesn't have the same IRQ as your sound card. Trying another slot would probably make it go away as well.
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Fink Angel
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.03.26 13:21:00 -
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Peripherals should share IRQs quite happily these days, but Creative have some history on this sort of issue.
http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=articles&go=read&arc_id=124
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Joseph Calvert
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel Sounds like a nasty on to troubleshoot.
If you're using GRUB it's because you're dual booting Linux, and therefore fairly comfortable with Linux things?
I'd be inclined to download a Knoppix boot DVD, then:
Put the Sounblaster card into place Boot from Knoppix Look at where all the devices have ended up, particularly which device is you primary partition now Edit the grub boot ini file to point at wherever your windows partition has ended up
Looking at the Soundblaster support site, I can see no reason that it has moved any drives around.
One thing in your post warrants further explanation please: "1 x SATA Disk (Windows does not know about this disk)"
Why not? Just because it's EXT3 Linux formatted or something, or is there already an underlying hardware issue?
Hi There, thanks for the suggestion, but I can't boot off of a DVD drive, or CD-ROM for now, as the machine does not even see the stupid drive (not even in the BIOS) with the card in place. What I meant with that is exactly as you put it, due to the SATA disk being ReiserFS4 (I prefer that over ext3, at least at home), windows does not see the drive. Also, with some fancy drive remapping in GRUB, even though the drive would be a 'primary' disk, as far as windows is concerned, it's not ;)
Originally by: Nelix Trist There's also another random possibility.
In some BIOS's there's an option to "Boot from PCI Device" This is normaly there to allow someone to boot from an SATA/IDE PCI adaptor.
You need to change eithere the sequance in which you have your PCI devices in your case, or even change the BIOS setting to not boot from PCI device.
See if that works.
Good call, will try that as soon as I get home. I poked around in the BIOS, couldn't find a setting like that last night though. I'll have another look. Thanks.
Originally by: Saju Somtaaw It does sound like an IRQ error, take a look during boot-up at the screen that lists IRQs to make sure your drive with GRUB doesn't have the same IRQ as your sound card. Trying another slot would probably make it go away as well.
I made sure of that, which is why I assigned it an, as far as the POST screen is concerned at least, unused IRQ. I already have the card in the second PCI slot my motherboard has (I only have 2 - besides the PCI-E slot). Back in the day machines would always whine about having something in the slot directly under your video card.
I think I'll end up bringing the stupid card back, as since last night by reading up on it, it seems this is the most crappy of all the X-Fi cards. It doesn't even have the actual x-fi chip, it just shares the name. I had no idea of this when I bought it, I just went into the store and bought what I thought was a decent card On a side note, I found out PCI 2.1 as Creative calls it, has been the de facto standard of PCI slots since 1995 or 1998 or some such. In other words, fancy marketing speak to make it look better from Creative there.
Once again, thanks for the suggestions so far. This is why I love this game, people over here are actually helpful, I would bet that if I posted this question on the forums of a not-to-be-named other large MMO, people would be calling me an idiot and would mostly be commenting on the sucky choices of my hardware instead of offering advice :) |
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