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HEron Driver
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 16:32:00 -
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ok as far as i know its the Caldari navy raven? or maybe golem?? well how ever, im gonna start doing lvl 4 in highsec and i got iskie to spend on, so can someone help me with the absolut BEST setup, faction stuff, officer? u name it!! and is it worth to get faction cruise launshers? ok the rof is lower, but on the t2 u got the spec skill to cover up some??
Help me please!!! thx
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Slade Hoo
xPlaguex
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Posted - 2008.03.18 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Hoo on 18/03/2008 16:38:21 Nightmare
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.18 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Hoo Edited by: Slade Hoo on 18/03/2008 16:38:21 Nightmare
Not against angels and guristas, but for Blood/Sansha/Mercs/Drones... Oh hell yes |
HEron Driver
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: HEron Driver on 18/03/2008 16:52:33 why the nightmare? i want to do the missions as fast as possible, still nightmare? hard to belive that it got more output damage then an raven??
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2008.03.18 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: HEron Driver hard to belive that [the Nightmare] got more output damage then an raven??
Erm, is it? Missile boats generally have relatively low DPS, that is offset by their other advantages (fully flexible damage types, not having to worry about tracking, equal effectiveness at all ranges up to optimal, etc.). The Nightmare's 10 effective turrets do put out more raw DPS than the CNR's 9.33 effective launchers (and much more than a normal Raven's 8 effective).
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Ulstan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.18 17:05:00 -
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Quote: hard to belive that it got more output damage then an raven??
Your average cruise ravens dps is terrible. People don't fly cruise ravens for the awewsome dps.
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Royaldo
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.18 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Royaldo on 18/03/2008 17:21:27 where will you be doing missions(vs what npc race mainly)? and do you loot/salvage?
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Mrs Malty
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ulstan
Quote: hard to belive that it got more output damage then an raven??
Your average cruise ravens dps is terrible. People don't fly cruise ravens for the awewsome dps.
Who said anything about cruise ravens?
Can I just tell you that I don't like ebay.
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Nu Wa
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.03.18 18:56:00 -
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First of all as precautionary measure, I will state ahead of time in this thread before another "NPC defender illiterate" posts.. that NPC defender works on a chance per missile system therefore it DOES NOT affects the golem's performance more than it does for CNR
Now with that out of the way :)
Nightmare for blood, sansha..etc TORP golem for gurista, angel..etc
However, I would like to note that Nightmare does not perform nearly as well on gurista/angel than TORP golem on blood/sansha. (Because the ability to switch damage type with missiles)
In conclusion, Nightmare for OMFG damage with style on the RIGHT targets and ONLY the right targets. Golem for all-weather general pwnage. You can't go wrong with either one.
Just my opinion.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.18 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nu Wa
In conclusion, Nightmare for OMFG damage with style on the RIGHT targets and ONLY the right targets. Golem for all-weather general pwnage. You can't go wrong with either one.
Just my opinion.
Basically, the best mission ship for L4s is a Nightmare AND a Torp Golem ;) Which is exactly what I use(d).
There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones |
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Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.03.18 19:13:00 -
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Get both. :D If you can fly a Nightmare, just train Caldari BS 5 and you can fly a Golem as well. Plus they both shield tank so you can swap out the mods as needed.
Nightmare pwns. I'll never fly a raven again for missions.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2008.03.18 19:21:00 -
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Nightmare outperforms all other alternatives on all NPC rats except for Guristas and Angels. Sepentis sees a slight damage decrease but even then it's faster than a cruise CNR.
4x Amarr Navy Tachyon Beams (less cap use than T2) 2x Tractor Beams (cluster wrecks for later salvage)
Gist/Pith XL Shield Booster 4x Hardeners 2x Cap mods (battery or recharger)
3x Heat Sinks (faction/officer) PDSII Suitcase
3x CCC rigs
Drones to flavour - choose dependent on mission.
Note that on about half the missions you won't even be using the shield booster as stuff just dies so fast that passive recharge is enough - provided you swap resists like you should. I am using a standard T2 XL booster and have no problems on any missions for Amarr navy.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:00:00 -
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Nightmare and then paladin. nightmare can fit a shield tank and not loose much out on tanking fitting 3 HS :D
tach nightmare gets well over 1k dps whit faction mods ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
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Mykpilot
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Mykpilot on 18/03/2008 22:25:38 Low: 3x Chelm's Heat Sink 1x Tobias' Modified Tracking Enhancer 1x Chelm's Modified Capacitor Power Relay
Mid: 3x Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field 1x Estamel's Modified X-Large Shield Booster 1x Estamel's Modified Shield Booster Amplifier 2x Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger
High: 4x Vizan's Modified Mega Pulse Laser 2x Chelm's Modified Heavy Nosferatu
Rigs: 1x Capacitor Control Circuit II 2x Capacitor Control Circuit I
DPS from turrets up to 1162 Tank up to 2007 DPS
I have no idea what it would cost, but probably 15 billion ISK or more. Taking Chelm's Modified Tachyon Beam Laser will drop your DPS by 80 but double your range.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: HEron Driver ... so can someone help me with the absolut BEST setup, faction stuff, officer? u name it!! ...
So as you asked for the BEST ship and BEST setup:
Raven State Issue
Hi: 8x Estamel Modified Cruise Missile Launcher Med: Tank (Estamel ofc., maybe 1 targetpainter, since the ueberness of your tank will give you a free medslot) Low: at least 4x Estamel Modified BCU, rest tank
5x heavy t2 drones
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Derek Sigres
Eternal Guardians Corp. The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: HEron Driver ... so can someone help me with the absolut BEST setup, faction stuff, officer? u name it!! ...
So as you asked for the BEST ship and BEST setup:
Raven State Issue
Hi: 8x Estamel Modified Cruise Missile Launcher Med: Tank (Estamel ofc., maybe 1 targetpainter, since the ueberness of your tank will give you a free medslot) Low: at least 4x Estamel Modified BCU, rest tank
5x heavy t2 drones
I don't know if you can spare a mid slot. You only have 20k DPS perma tank without that last module. I don't know if that's enough
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Lanning
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Lanning on 18/03/2008 22:43:30 Are there stages to missioning?
Ok you start out with a t1 bs and you tank it to the gills.
Then you gradually convert tank to gank.
Then you have different bs depending on the mission.
<--- runs beam Abadddon for Sansha/Bloods/Drones, Hyp with 3 mag stabs and 8 450's for vengance, Mach for AE & have just started using a pulse Apoc with web for mercs. |
Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: HEron Driver ... so can someone help me with the absolut BEST setup, faction stuff, officer? u name it!! ...
So as you asked for the BEST ship and BEST setup:
Raven State Issue
Hi: 8x Estamel Modified Cruise Missile Launcher Med: Tank (Estamel ofc., maybe 1 targetpainter, since the ueberness of your tank will give you a free medslot) Low: at least 4x Estamel Modified BCU, rest tank
5x heavy t2 drones
Epic fail tbh
8 T2 Siege beat 8 Estamel cruise Gist XL beats Estamel XL as shieldbooster for missioning And T2 sentries beat T2 heavies in effective dps (not paper dps), though imho the ideal drone config would be 4 sentries and 5 meds.
There is more to designing the best mission ship than just throwing everything Estamel on
There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones |
Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: HEron Driver ... so can someone help me with the absolut BEST setup, faction stuff, officer? u name it!! ...
So as you asked for the BEST ship and BEST setup:
Raven State Issue
Hi: 8x Estamel Modified Cruise Missile Launcher Med: Tank (Estamel ofc., maybe 1 targetpainter, since the ueberness of your tank will give you a free medslot) Low: at least 4x Estamel Modified BCU, rest tank
5x heavy t2 drones
Epic fail tbh
8 T2 Siege beat 8 Estamel cruise Gist XL beats Estamel XL as shieldbooster for missioning And T2 sentries beat T2 heavies in effective dps (not paper dps), though imho the ideal drone config would be 4 sentries and 5 meds.
There is more to designing the best mission ship than just throwing everything Estamel on
Gabba gabba gabba i bet a moa that i finish any mission faster with my estamel cruise state raven then you with your extamel siege state raven (which has what, max 30km effective combat range ?). And the tank - oh well with that base shield hp and 3 estamel invuls you prolly don't need any shield booster at all, since the rats die so fast that they can hardly deal any serious damage
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Number Purple
Project Mortormis Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:10:00 -
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well with the set up on the raven state issue you have to fit 2 cpu modules for a full tank o noes =P
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Kayoss
HeartVenom Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:12:00 -
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My Rattlesnake works very well.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: HEron Driver ... so can someone help me with the absolut BEST setup, faction stuff, officer? u name it!! ...
So as you asked for the BEST ship and BEST setup:
Raven State Issue
Hi: 8x Estamel Modified Cruise Missile Launcher Med: Tank (Estamel ofc., maybe 1 targetpainter, since the ueberness of your tank will give you a free medslot) Low: at least 4x Estamel Modified BCU, rest tank
5x heavy t2 drones
Epic fail tbh
8 T2 Siege beat 8 Estamel cruise Gist XL beats Estamel XL as shieldbooster for missioning And T2 sentries beat T2 heavies in effective dps (not paper dps), though imho the ideal drone config would be 4 sentries and 5 meds.
There is more to designing the best mission ship than just throwing everything Estamel on
Gabba gabba gabba i bet a moa that i finish any mission faster with my estamel cruise state raven then you with your extamel siege state raven (which has what, max 30km effective combat range ?).
Not Estamel Siege. T2 Siege... And that T2 Siege actually beat Estamel cruise is strong testimony for how much regular cruise still suck compared to torps...
There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones |
Nu Wa
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.03.19 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nu Wa on 19/03/2008 12:43:02
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: HEron Driver ... so can someone help me with the absolut BEST setup, faction stuff, officer? u name it!! ...
So as you asked for the BEST ship and BEST setup:
Raven State Issue
Hi: 8x Estamel Modified Cruise Missile Launcher Med: Tank (Estamel ofc., maybe 1 targetpainter, since the ueberness of your tank will give you a free medslot) Low: at least 4x Estamel Modified BCU, rest tank
5x heavy t2 drones
Nooo.... a GM Solaris Frigate is the best mission ship, since its just about as hard to get as a fully decked Estamel State Raven. *Rolls Eye*
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mama guru
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.19 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Hoo Edited by: Slade Hoo on 18/03/2008 16:38:21 Nightmare
I want one sooooo much, but my goddamn shield skills fail miserably
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
mama guru
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.19 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Nightmare outperforms all other alternatives on all NPC rats except for Guristas and Angels. Sepentis sees a slight damage decrease but even then it's faster than a cruise CNR.
4x Amarr Navy Tachyon Beams (less cap use than T2) 2x Tractor Beams (cluster wrecks for later salvage)
Gist/Pith XL Shield Booster 4x Hardeners 2x Cap mods (battery or recharger)
3x Heat Sinks (faction/officer) PDSII Suitcase
3x CCC rigs
Drones to flavour - choose dependent on mission.
Note that on about half the missions you won't even be using the shield booster as stuff just dies so fast that passive recharge is enough - provided you swap resists like you should. I am using a standard T2 XL booster and have no problems on any missions for Amarr navy.
I was actually thinking about passive tanking one. But i'm not sure if its worthwile to dump the heavy active tank to get out of a tight spot. Then again, if you're careful and know all the missions you do beforehand it should be fine.
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
Duncan Storne
Rogen's Heroes
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Posted - 2008.03.19 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Nightmare outperforms all other alternatives on all NPC rats except for Guristas and Angels. Sepentis sees a slight damage decrease but even then it's faster than a cruise CNR.
4x Amarr Navy Tachyon Beams (less cap use than T2) 2x Tractor Beams (cluster wrecks for later salvage)
Gist/Pith XL Shield Booster 4x Hardeners 2x Cap mods (battery or recharger)
3x Heat Sinks (faction/officer) PDSII Suitcase
3x CCC rigs
Drones to flavour - choose dependent on mission.
Note that on about half the missions you won't even be using the shield booster as stuff just dies so fast that passive recharge is enough - provided you swap resists like you should. I am using a standard T2 XL booster and have no problems on any missions for Amarr navy.
How long can you maintain your tank while firing those tachyons? Is it mostly that your resistances are so high you don't need to boost all that much?
Do you not run into problems with tracking?
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LordThyGod
Acerbus Vindictum Nex Super Vos
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Posted - 2008.03.19 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: LordThyGod on 19/03/2008 18:29:36 I know you get more dps out of alot of ships, but might as well post anywase. The rail setup isnt that impressive dps, but the blasters are, 1200dps out of the rokh. Anyone have 40 bill i can borrow lol?
[Rokh, New Setup 1] Draclira's Modified Capacitor Power Relay Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Damage Control II
Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Shield Boost Amplifier Estamel's Modified Shield Boost Amplifier Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger
Setele's Modified 350mm Railgun, Dread Guristas Thorium Charge L Setele's Modified 350mm Railgun, Dread Guristas Thorium Charge L Setele's Modified 350mm Railgun, Dread Guristas Thorium Charge L Setele's Modified 350mm Railgun, Dread Guristas Thorium Charge L Setele's Modified 350mm Railgun, Dread Guristas Thorium Charge L Setele's Modified 350mm Railgun, Dread Guristas Thorium Charge L Setele's Modified 350mm Railgun, Dread Guristas Thorium Charge L Setele's Modified 350mm Railgun, Dread Guristas Thorium Charge L
Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit I
Valkyrie II x5
5700dps tank with crystal set and vulture in the fleet, alot more with blue pill of course. 600 dps from a 71k optimal isnt to bad mind you. You finish the room before they ever even get close(actaully i do that with my t2 turrets and thorium)Basicly its a big dumb tank lol though thinking about it makes me think of how pointless the damage control is, add another 60 dps with another mag stab, drop a boost amp(i know i'm always yelling at people to run 2 boost amps on the rokh, but with these modules i think we can spare alil more tank:P)
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d3vo
Airborne Assassins Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.03.19 18:58:00 -
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drake with a bunch of officer mods will get you 200 sheild recharge per second and a decent dps clean 80% resist omni tank too
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IceCreamMonster
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.19 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: d3vo drake with a bunch of officer mods will get you 200 sheild recharge per second and a decent dps clean 80% resist omni tank too
Get out!!! :)
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d3vo
Airborne Assassins Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.03.19 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: IceCreamMonster
Originally by: d3vo drake with a bunch of officer mods will get you 200 sheild recharge per second and a decent dps clean 80% resist omni tank too
Get out!!! :)
actually i got that wrong...that would be a t2 setup officer would make that mmm...300 hp/s with 80-90% resists omni tankeeeeeeeed
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