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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1686
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:04:00 -
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The only surprising thing about this is that there are literally more people in Eve who care about space pants than people who care about mining. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1686
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:05:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: The chair of the CSM 6 has repeatedly stated he only represents his constituency and has no interest in representing all of Eve.
If that's true then he was not the right person for the position. CSMs should work seperate from the game but focused on the game and the players. CSMs should not be an extension of the game.
Name a single thing that the chair of CSM6 did (in his role as chairman) that was bad for people who didn't vote for him. Just one. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Willard Mitt Romney
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:08:00 -
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+1 for the title of the thread alone
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1002
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:12:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: The chair of the CSM 6 has repeatedly stated he only represents his constituency and has no interest in representing all of Eve.
If that's true then he was not the right person for the position. CSMs should work seperate from the game but focused on the game and the players. CSMs should not be an extension of the game.
I agree and many folks have shared your position about the CSM 6 chair.
Issler |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1686
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:17:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:many folks
Considering your idea of a million miner march consisted of 14 people, your perception of how many people are mad at The Mittani is suspect.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
52
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:19:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: The chair of the CSM 6 has repeatedly stated he only represents his constituency and has no interest in representing all of Eve.
If that's true then he was not the right person for the position. CSMs should work seperate from the game but focused on the game and the players. CSMs should not be an extension of the game. Name a single thing that the chair of CSM6 did that was bad for people who didn't vote for him. Just one.
Looking after a section of the game does not necessarily benefit the game as a whole. Especially when the CSMs probably don't have equal say and not all areas will be represented under that mannar of leadership.
So I can see Issler's concerns regarding will mining have an equal say if a say at all, if The Chair has no interest in representing all players and the game as a whole.
The whole game should be looked at, not just piece parts. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
52
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:28:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:many folks Considering your idea of a million miner march consisted of 14 people, your perception of how many people are mad at The Mittani is suspect.
It was never going to be a million, it was just used for effect. Only 50k accounts online at the busiest time of the week. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1686
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Posted - 2012.02.28 03:01:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Looking after a section of the game does not necessarily benefit the game as a whole. Especially when the CSMs probably don't have equal say and not all areas will be represented under that mannar of leadership.
So I can see Issler's concerns regarding will mining have an equal say if a say at all, if The Chair has no interest in representing all players and the game as a whole.
The whole game should be looked at, not just piece parts.
See you're so focused on the chairman that you failed to realize that CSM6 has a high sec rep, a wormhole rep and a low sec rep. Go ask them if their ideas were ignored. Don't believe crazy people on the forums who think CCP should ignore space content for more fashion options.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
33
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Posted - 2012.02.28 06:15:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:i would not wish to interfere with your parade of five people in velators showing ccp just how much organization miners have
I believe it was two bantams, a navitas, a tormentor, and a burst. No rookie ships were present.
Oh yeah, and there was one retriever. |
Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
39
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Posted - 2012.02.28 06:25:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Weaselior wrote:i would not wish to interfere with your parade of five people in velators showing ccp just how much organization miners have I believe it was two bantams, a navitas, a tormentor, and a burst. No rookie ships were present. Oh yeah, and there was one retriever.
There was an ibis, but it was orbiting the station at 100. I'm not sure if it was involved. |
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
33
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Posted - 2012.02.28 06:33:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: The chair of the CSM 6 has repeatedly stated he only represents his constituency and has no interest in representing all of Eve.
If that's true then he was not the right person for the position. CSMs should work seperate from the game but focused on the game and the players. CSMs should not be an extension of the game.
It's not true. Nothing against you Issler, but The Mittani has stated and ranted many times about why he supports the whole of EVE and not just his voterbase or fellow Goons, and he backs this up with examples, excerpts, anecdotes, and by explaining theoretical situations, going very in-depth in a rather genius manner to describe his vision in a way that a layperson can understand it clearly. Reading his stuff makes me feel intelligent, valuable, and hopeful; and best of all when it's all said and done he can enjoy the same carnal delights the rest of us do, without letting it impede him or anyone he represents (the whole of the EVE playerbase) in the slightest.
Given the opportunity at the moment, I would vote for The Mittani even with mining as my top priority (it's on the list, but not at the top). Mittens has even made a forum post about why he is the miner's friend, and that's a lot more than I expected. To see him go out of his way to create a whole thread and rant about mining specifically gives me hope that it's on his platter of things that need to be looked at. He brought us great things in CSM 6 (way better than any CSM has done in the past) so I have a good feeling about CSM 7 and I think he'll take the chair again in a landslide vote.
I know it can be hard to do this, but if you really want what's best for miners, in fact even if you just want the best chance of even one good mining update/fix, you should put some effort into supporting The Mittani, rather than try to compete with him. I support The Mittani for CSM 7 for the whole of EVE, including mining. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1009
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Posted - 2012.02.28 19:33:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: The chair of the CSM 6 has repeatedly stated he only represents his constituency and has no interest in representing all of Eve.
If that's true then he was not the right person for the position. CSMs should work seperate from the game but focused on the game and the players. CSMs should not be an extension of the game. It's not true. Nothing against you Issler, but The Mittani has stated and ranted many times about why he supports the whole of EVE and not just his voterbase or fellow Goons, and he backs this up with examples, excerpts, anecdotes, and by explaining theoretical situations, going very in-depth in a rather genius manner to describe his vision in a way that a layperson can understand it clearly. Reading his stuff makes me feel intelligent, valuable, and hopeful; and best of all when it's all said and done he can enjoy the same carnal delights the rest of us do, without letting it impede him or anyone he represents (the whole of the EVE playerbase) in the slightest. Given the opportunity at the moment, I would vote for The Mittani even with mining as my top priority (it's on the list, but not at the top). Mittens has even made a forum post about why he is the miner's friend, and that's a lot more than I expected. To see him go out of his way to create a whole thread and rant about mining specifically gives me hope that it's on his platter of things that need to be looked at. He brought us great things in CSM 6 (way better than any CSM has done in the past) so I have a good feeling about CSM 7 and I think he'll take the chair again in a landslide vote. I know it can be hard to do this, but if you really want what's best for miners, in fact even if you just want the best chance of even one good mining update/fix, you should put some effort into supporting The Mittani, rather than try to compete with him.
He has posted directly in Jita park he is not representing all of Eve, just his constituents.
Keep drinking mitten's koolaide, I think he makes it with miner's tears.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1695
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Posted - 2012.02.28 19:59:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:He has posted directly in Jita park he is not representing all of Eve, just his constituents.
So what? Everything he's done as chairman has benefited the entire playerbase whether they voted for him or not. You're so hung up on what Mittens said that you're unable to see what he actually did.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
564
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Posted - 2012.02.29 02:43:00 -
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There aren't even a million miners in game.
You know, if you want something done, you could always be reasonable, and lobby with the CSM and bring up your concerns by sending them reasonable, polite messages with a list of things that you would like to be done, setting a reasonable time frame.
You don't go screaming at nothing that there is a problem and expect a solution.
You propose to someone in a position to do something what the problem is, and what possible solutions there are. That is how things work best. But then again, I wouldn't expect a bunch of rock-for-brained miners to get that. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Eso Es
War Tribe
6
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Posted - 2012.02.29 04:51:00 -
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Wait, I didn't know bots could protest?!?!? What are you guys gonna do, assemble in Rens then go AFK? |
Jack Miton
Lapse Of Sanity Exhale.
130
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Posted - 2012.02.29 05:11:00 -
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Go train gunnery... |
Mikalia Sunstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
0
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Posted - 2012.03.03 13:37:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:if only i had more space honor, to go with my forum honor
That's "honour," actually
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1356
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Posted - 2012.03.03 13:45:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:He has posted directly in Jita park he is not representing all of Eve, just his constituents. So what? Everything he's done as chairman has benefited the entire playerbase whether they voted for him or not. You're so hung up on what Mittens said that you're unable to see what he actually did.
Dont get me wrong, i like your propaganda materials..
But what he done in manner of EVE development is probably different league.. What he made possible in game is different ball-park.
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
274
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Posted - 2012.03.03 14:06:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: The chair of the CSM 6 has repeatedly stated he only represents his constituency and has no interest in representing all of Eve.
If that's true then he was not the right person for the position.
Fortunately, it's not. Issler Dainze is just a pubbie with an agenda. And a bit thick.
Mittani is (or at least, was) a miner when he started the game, and has distinctly said that the CSM6 has been working on getting CCP to kill off the drone pieces that made mining completely obsolete. That single change would completely revamp mining as a profession, making it useful again.
Hell, the Goonswarm anti-Ice bot campaign singlehandedly helped restore sanity to that sector of space, helping fix the ice economy that was so horrifically devastated by bots mining ice 23x7. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
246
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Posted - 2012.03.04 01:22:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: The chair of the CSM 6 has repeatedly stated he only represents his constituency and has no interest in representing all of Eve.
If that's true then he was not the right person for the position. CSMs should work seperate from the game but focused on the game and the players. CSMs should not be an extension of the game. It's not true. Nothing against you Issler, but The Mittani has stated and ranted many times about why he supports the whole of EVE and not just his voterbase or fellow Goons, and he backs this up with examples, excerpts, anecdotes, and by explaining theoretical situations, going very in-depth in a rather genius manner to describe his vision in a way that a layperson can understand it clearly. Reading his stuff makes me feel intelligent, valuable, and hopeful; and best of all when it's all said and done he can enjoy the same carnal delights the rest of us do, without letting it impede him or anyone he represents (the whole of the EVE playerbase) in the slightest. Given the opportunity at the moment, I would vote for The Mittani even with mining as my top priority (it's on the list, but not at the top). Mittens has even made a forum post about why he is the miner's friend, and that's a lot more than I expected. To see him go out of his way to create a whole thread and rant about mining specifically gives me hope that it's on his platter of things that need to be looked at. He brought us great things in CSM 6 (way better than any CSM has done in the past) so I have a good feeling about CSM 7 and I think he'll take the chair again in a landslide vote. I know it can be hard to do this, but if you really want what's best for miners, in fact even if you just want the best chance of even one good mining update/fix, you should put some effort into supporting The Mittani, rather than try to compete with him.
The only thing more odious than a goonie verbally fellating Mittani in public, is a wannabe-goonie* verbally fellating Mittani in public.
*A name unworthy of capitalisation, imho...
In irae, veritas. |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1762
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Posted - 2012.03.04 05:27:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:The only thing more odious than a goonie verbally fellating Mittani in public, is a wannabe-goonie* verbally fellating Mittani in public. *A name unworthy of capitalisation, imho...
Don't be so mad about Goons. We're here to help.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
748
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Posted - 2012.03.04 07:15:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:The only thing more odious than a goonie verbally fellating Mittani in public, is a wannabe-goonie* verbally fellating Mittani in public. *A name unworthy of capitalisation, imho... Truly are you a wielder of great power; with the flip of a single bit you can turn a person from being Worthy, to being unworthy. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.03.04 09:07:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Keep drinking mitten's koolaide, I think he makes it with miner's tears. Is that his secret ingredient?
No wonder the tools involve brutixes (gank fit). Shoulve' guessed. [quote=Tarryn Nightstorm]The only thing more odious than a goonie verbally fellating Mittani in public, is a wannabe-goonie* verbally fellating Mittani in public./quote] My my, and here I thought you were going to say something like post on your main, thus implying it was a goon alt all the time.
Disappointing lack of all alts are goon alts posting in EVE-O forums, a discussion board for supercaps which are totally well balanced.
EDIT: I am disappoint. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
246
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Posted - 2012.03.04 23:33:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:The only thing more odious than a goonie verbally fellating Mittani in public, is a wannabe-goonie* verbally fellating Mittani in public. *A name unworthy of capitalisation, imho... Truly are you a wielder of great power; with the flip of a single bit you can turn a person from being Worthy, to being unworthy.
Oh, your pardon, but:
Who are you, again?
In irae, veritas. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
246
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Posted - 2012.03.04 23:36:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Keep drinking mitten's koolaide, I think he makes it with miner's tears. Is that his secret ingredient? No wonder the tools involve brutixes (gank fit). Shoulve' guessed. [quote=Tarryn Nightstorm]The only thing more odious than a goonie verbally fellating Mittani in public, is a wannabe-goonie* verbally fellating Mittani in public. /quote] My my, and here I thought you were going to say something like post on your main, thus implying it was a goon alt all the time. Disappointing lack of all alts are goon alts posting in EVE-O forums, a discussion board for supercaps which are totally well balanced. EDIT: I am disappoint.
Well, I'm sure you lot can fix that in about 90 seconds, so what's to be disappointed about?
(/Me sings badly) "Wait for my instructions, Little Beeeee...." (Suas)
E: Now if Mittani were to sing to us like that guy used to, then hey, who knows what heights of political domination he would reach?
In irae, veritas. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1279
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Posted - 2012.03.20 23:43:00 -
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Once the elections are over we will try and stage some miner events in major trade hubs again.
Miner's Unite!
Huge thanks to all the pilots of Eve that helped me with your vote, sharing my campaign with your friends and other miners in the 'verse and all the words of encouragement as the I was attacked by the players that would keep the miners out of the CSM and CCP's future plans!
Still time to help get a miner in the CSM 7! Vote for Issler, the Miner's Friend
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
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Xenophon Zateki
Vetrox Technologies
4
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Posted - 2012.03.20 23:46:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Once the elections are over we will try and stage some miner events in major trade hubs again.
I see what you did there. |
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