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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
137
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Posted - 2012.02.21 22:54:00 -
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You can't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
Bots don't cry, whine and make threads crying and whining when they get ganked. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2319
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:06:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:
No mention of any significant changes to the mining profession itself directly as a resutl, just resources.
Apart form that there is little interest in mining developments other than ensuring a need to enthuse more opportunites to shoot soft targets.
As the first quote proves, The Mittani is fully aware of how unfun mining is. However, there are two major problems with it: it's unfun everywhere, and it's simply not viable at all in 0.0. Making mining viable in 0.0 is a flat improvement to the game since its something that's just gone and would add a lot to the game to return. Making it not a horribly unfun process is a seperate issue: "don't mine" has been a refrain of goonswarm to our newbies for years as we don't want them burning out asking why anyone would play this game because we let them try to mine. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
946
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:08:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Issler Dainze, I don't fully agree with your ideas about mining and I urge you to think a little harder about your approach and tweak it a bit. That being said, I am a miner and I'd love to join this march. In fact I will bring a retriever, just to be classy. Please remind me when it's coming up so I don't forget, and thanks in advance!!
I'd love to learn more about what your ideas are about how to make mining better.
Remember, I am looking to create a panel of advisers to help create the best ideas to bring to CCP. The ideas I've shared to date were intended to start off conversations, not meant to be the final solution to all things in need if fixing.
Issler |
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
178
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:20:00 -
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I'm thinking you'd have more impact if you all flew your Exhumers to Jita 4-4 and parked 'em right in front of the undock. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
236
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:38:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Weaselior wrote:Miners, I urge you to think hard about who will actually support you, and read this thread here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72311While Ms. Dainze may paint herself as "The Miner's Friend", careful analysis will show that your best option is to vote for The Mittani, King of Space. I would really love to know how you think any miner that thinks for a moment about various barge-o-geddons would vote for anyone that was ever on the ganking end of that experience. Issler
OP, please don't feed the troll Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM 7! (Mittens, you may not want to admit it, but your day in the sun is over. Next!)
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THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:45:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Reserved.
reserved Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
SkiD-MaRk
DEAD-ON
12
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:46:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: Can you show anywhere that Mittens has supported a new mining experience?
Not isk/hour, fun/hour.
You aren't fooling anyone.
Issler
The Mittani has stated so before, and has recently tweeted his approval of my thread explaining how he is the proper miner's choice for CSM. The Mittani is solidly in favor of anything that increases miner populations and reduces the population of bots within those miners.
You really are going balls deep for the Mittani. Though he has the votes of many including myself. Your attempts at making him you next lover is embarrassing. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Important Internet Spaceship League
37
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Posted - 2012.02.21 23:52:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:OK, you caught me... it will be closer to the ""bunch of miners march".
How can your potential voters trust you if you're going to get caught lying so easily? |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
947
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:10:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:OK, you caught me... it will be closer to the ""bunch of miners march". How can your potential voters trust you if you're going to get caught lying so easily?
I could lose millions of voters over this!
Issler
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Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
320
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:19:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Weaselior wrote:Miners, I urge you to think hard about who will actually support you, and read this thread here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72311While Ms. Dainze may paint herself as "The Miner's Friend", careful analysis will show that your best option is to vote for The Mittani, King of Space. I would really love to know how you think any miner that thinks for a moment about various barge-o-geddons would vote for anyone that was ever on the ganking end of that experience. Issler While it is understandable that you would oppose miners voting for another candidate, the careful analysis I have posted in that thread concerning how The Mittani has every reason to improve the lot of the common miner speaks for itself.
I wanted to laugh, but somehow something so ironically funny only ellicited a snort from me. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |
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Angsty Teenager
Sinister Elite
45
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:31:00 -
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Why has nobody commented on how bloody deformed and ugly looking OP's character is?
And as far as this fellow is concerned, I don't see why he tries to act like a legitimate candidate. You're trying to get votes from the wrong people m8, no highsec miners will bother voting. If they're dumb enough to remain in highsec and mine instead of going to null or a wormhole, they're too dumb to make a large enough showing in the CSM elections.
Though mining is stupid period.
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Cyprus Black
Cowboy Diplomacy
144
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Posted - 2012.02.22 02:43:00 -
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Hmm, The Million Miner March and Hulkaggeden 5 happening around the same time?
Could be coincidence or.....
IT'S A TRAP! Follow my EvE blog at: http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
173
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Posted - 2012.02.22 02:54:00 -
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bunch of scrub alts in rookie ships boooooring. wis: a roman orgy of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted.
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SMASHBOX
Ministry of Information
12
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Posted - 2012.02.22 04:14:00 -
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You could all show up in 300k HP Orca's. Hard to gank, and proof that yer proud to be a miner. Maybe fit a cloak, just in case? |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
261
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Posted - 2012.02.22 04:18:00 -
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I'm not a miner, and I don't like Issler, but I feel CCP really need to give low- and nullsec beltratting some major love. The ships are already there, exhumers, Orca, Rorq, they're all awsome tools. It just have to be valuable to mine again. I.e. as much as I'd love to gank you guys, for what it's worth, it's long overdue that miners get some love. this is a signature |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1341
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Posted - 2012.02.22 04:45:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:bunch of scrub alts in rookie ships boooooring.
so you gonna join too ? |
Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
335
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Posted - 2012.02.22 04:54:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote: Remember, the goons were the first to employ massive cheap ship blobs. Time for the miners to do the same.
Lol, miner fantasies. Not one of you has the guts to pull the trigger.
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Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.02.22 04:57:00 -
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I love miners. I say this because for less than 2 million isk I can pop barges worth more than 100million and the only downside is that I have to do a couple of missions to fix my sec status. A million miners in one system? Christmas has come early! \o/ |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
948
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Posted - 2012.02.22 05:48:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: Remember, the goons were the first to employ massive cheap ship blobs. Time for the miners to do the same.
Lol, miner fantasies. Not one of you has the guts to pull the trigger.
Concord will have lots of triggers to pull. If we lose nothing and gankers lose anything in the long run we win.
Issler |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
948
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Posted - 2012.02.22 05:49:00 -
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Ann133566 wrote:I love miners. I say this because for less than 2 million isk I can pop barges worth more than 100million and the only downside is that I have to do a couple of missions to fix my sec status. A million miners in one system? Christmas has come early! \o/
No barges will be expected to attend. Sorry.
Issler |
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Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
749
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Posted - 2012.02.22 05:53:00 -
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Three miner march doesn't quite have the same ring to it |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.02.22 06:07:00 -
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Pulling a completely made up guess of a number out of my ass, 90% of the game's miners don't even read these forums, since 90% of the game's miners are not actually people. On top of that you and your peers are so incredibly risk averse that the idea of slight chance of getting even your rookie ship (which is all you'll be in) ganked in Rens scares you to death. Furthermore, sitting outside the trade hub station in Rens in your rookie ship is you not mining, hence not making your wallet blink which is the only thing in this game that motivates the few human robots that do mine.
The only organization most highsec dwellers are capable of is sitting an Orca in the same belt as your small swarm of mining bots, or humping the side of a station if you're into 'heh' PvP. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
948
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Posted - 2012.02.22 06:46:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Pulling a completely made up guess of a number out of my ass, 90% of the game's miners don't even read these forums, since 90% of the game's miners are not actually people. On top of that you and your peers are so incredibly risk averse that the idea of slight chance of getting even your rookie ship (which is all you'll be in) ganked in Rens scares you to death. Furthermore, sitting outside the trade hub station in Rens in your rookie ship is you not mining, hence not making your wallet blink which is the only thing in this game that motivates the few human robots that do mine.
The only organization most highsec dwellers are capable of is sitting an Orca in the same belt as your small swarm of mining bots, or humping the side of a station if you're into 'heh' PvP.
Gathering a large group of players make the point and there are efforts outside of the forums to spread the word. I expect to gain momentum to eventually have a noteworthy assembly. First gathering might not be impressive but we'll have to see in the end if the miners hear the call.
The fact you think miners only mine to make isks shows how little you understand miners.
But I am happy so many goons are so interested in the miner's plight and claim to have such a deep understanding of their motivations.
Issler Dainze The Miners Friend CSM 7 Candidate
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Tiberius Amzadee
The Omega Sovereign Flux Initiative
7
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Posted - 2012.02.22 08:40:00 -
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Oh boy,talk about putting all your eggs in one basket. |
hawlin ass
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.02.22 09:18:00 -
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Jesus. Even threads about mining are soul crushingly boring. |
TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
43
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Posted - 2012.02.22 09:40:00 -
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Egh,
Did you miss the bit where they're removing drone poop drops? That's a mining boost right there.
What you should do it form some kind of well ballanced argument for what improvements you want for miners. One that'll actually improve things for miners and not scew the game for everyone else.
I'll get you started, A new mining ship that pulls in more ore will only lead to more ore on the market and the price will drop leaving you with the same income.
Removing mining bots will remove a large chunk of income for CCP and stick the price for ore up untill more people switch to mining, lowering the price to where it was before. The downside of this is it'll make ships more expensive in the short term which'll make PvP more expnsives.
"make mining more fun" that's like me saying "make watching paint dry more fun" the only way of doing that is be doing something different.
Mining, I know you're going to argue with this, is the lowest point in eve as far as fun\isk making goes. You have chosen to do this, this is your choice, what do you want everyone else to do about it? |
Steve Celeste
Wolfsbrigade
202
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Posted - 2012.02.22 09:45:00 -
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Why would you name your alliance after a Japanese car... |
Degren
The Scope Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.02.22 10:06:00 -
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It would seem your constituents are AFK
Like they always are. |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
379
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Posted - 2012.02.22 11:09:00 -
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Calling all Disco battleships. I repeat calling all Disco Battleships I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
335
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Posted - 2012.02.22 17:26:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:Calling all Disco battleships. I repeat calling all Disco Battleships
It's as if a million carebears cried out and were suddenly smartbombed... |
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