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Father Shillelagh
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:48:00 -
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if not, any idea why not, as dual procs are all the rage.
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Scel Eratus
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:06:00 -
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More than likely no. Very few games released today take advantage of multiple processors beyond having their own dedicated proc to run on while the operating system uses another.
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Hevymetal
Caldari POT Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Father Shillelagh if not, any idea why not, as dual procs are all the rage.
As far as i know, NO, it does not support hyperthreading nor symetric multi-processing. Having multiple processors and/or dual core processors will however help eliminate some of the overhead involved in managing windows and having multiple applications open at the same time.
If you are running multiple instances of EVE, you can specify each EVE process use a specific processor to psuedo load balance the running applications.
To make EVE aware and able to use multiple processors/cores would involve a MAJOR recoding of the program. Will this be a feature available in a future release? You guess is as good as mine.
Hevymetal
BANG!! BANG!! BANG!! STOP OR I'LL SHOOT!!! |
Bohoba
Caldari dragons nest imPure.
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:07:00 -
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all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
Windows VistaÖ Ultimate x64-based PC Gigabyte X38-DQ6 Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU Q6850 Memory 4,093.69 MB 2X Crossfire ASUS EAH3870/G/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 3870 512MB
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Stern Maxwell
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
No, thats just Vista, using up all your processing power. ___________________________________________
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
Vista will use multiple cores, but that doesn't mean that Eve will.
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:47:00 -
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If you have Hyperthreading, is there a way to lock eve to one of the two "cores"? Or would that not help at all?
I only have one CPU, but in my specs it shows two CPU's, due to hyperthreading.
Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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AntSmash
Institute of Combat Engineering STELLAR LEGION
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:50:00 -
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My Eve is using about 20-25% on each core.
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: AntSmash My Eve is using about 20-25% on each core.
Get about 15% on all 4 using XP x64 pro. So, it's not vista. ________
Originally by: Tarminic I believe your mother should have re-rolled her birth control.
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AntSmash
Institute of Combat Engineering STELLAR LEGION
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:17:00 -
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I'm using XP Pro x64 as well.
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Hevymetal
Caldari POT Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Last Wolf If you have Hyperthreading, is there a way to lock eve to one of the two "cores"? Or would that not help at all?
I only have one CPU, but in my specs it shows two CPU's, due to hyperthreading.
Try this your mileage may vary
Assuming you are using XP
1. Start Eve and login 2. Alt-Tab out of game if not running in windowed mode 3. Hit CTRL-ALT-DEL 1 timw 4. Click on task manager 5. Click on processes tab 6. look for process called ExeFile.exe (sorting by name may help) 7. Right-Click on ExeFile.exe goto Set affinity and left click. 7a. Depending on your actual setup (Dual core vs multiple processors and/or hyperthreading) you will see CPU 1-??. Simply uncheck all but the CPU you want to dedicate. 7b. Personally I would dedicate the highest processor ID available to Eve (ex. CPU 1-4 uncheck all but 4) and leave the lower process for windows to use. 7c. Repeat process for all other instances of Eve you wish to run and select the next available CPU ID to dedicate (Ex. CPU ID 3)
Hevymetal
BANG!! BANG!! BANG!! STOP OR I'LL SHOOT!!! |
Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:28:00 -
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Thanks I'll try that.
Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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Mike Rowlings
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:46:00 -
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Funny, but EVE on my machine uses between 5 and 35% of the CPU. Machine is Centrino 2Gz, 2GB RAM, ATI X700 128MB.
Must be because I'm running the classic version, as you guys all have high spec comps and are for sure running the premium, most resource-intensive version.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ishina Fel on 05/03/2008 23:47:13
Originally by: AntSmash My Eve is using about 20-25% on each core.
As long as you do not lock the process to one core, Windows will shuffle the process from core to core whenever the core that currently has it encounters an interrupt (forgive me for not going into details, but this is a normal functionality of x86-family processors). As this happens quite often, the process is constantly shunted around between the cores at very high speed, and to the user it appears as if the process is using all cores simultaneously.
Such behavior can be identified easily by looking at the load graphs. If they all look relatively identical, that means you have a single-thread process that just keeps hopping cores. Some single-thread processes even lock themselves to one core, but not all do.
If you have a real multithreading program, however (see UT3 for example), you will see all cores reporting activity as well, but in very dissimilar graphs. This is because not all the threads of the application have to do the same amoutn of work at the same time (for example, if the application uses one core exclusively for physics computatation, and your player figure is just standing around looking pretty, that core will not have very much to do).
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Going Shopping
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Posted - 2008.03.06 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: Going Shopping on 06/03/2008 00:13:51 Now my question is...
With EVE, is it better to have it juggled around on both cores, or would you get better performance by just setting an afinity to one of them?
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Mattikus
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.06 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:43:42 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:41:53 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:39:17
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
No, thats just Vista, using up all your processing power.
You tool....I call bull**** on you. I have Vista...and a nice CPU monitor running on my cool windows sidebar...NEVER EVER does Vista use both cores of my cpu unless I'm actually doing something like opening a program, closing, playing an intensive game (UT3, BF2, etc.) etc. etc. But NOT when I'am playing EVE. So please explain to me HOW Vista is using up all my processing power? I can have EVE up, tab out and browse the net, talk on IM and watch both cores not even get about 10% usage. So, my friend, why dont you get off the "vista-hating" bandwagon since you have no idea what your talking about.
To the OP...I doubt CCP will ever put the time and effort into programming eve to actually utilize both cores. Besides....its not that demanding of a game (even with the trinity update) so changing the code to use dual or quad core really wouldnt be worth it.
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Stern Maxwell
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.06 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mattikus Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:43:42 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:41:53 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:39:17
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
No, thats just Vista, using up all your processing power.
I am a failure.
Vista vs XP
You fail. ___________________________________________
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2008.03.06 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Mattikus Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:43:42 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:41:53 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:39:17
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
No, thats just Vista, using up all your processing power.
I am a failure.
Vista vs XP
You fail.
Yes, and all those games are several years old and MADE FOR XP
I'm usually on the "Vista sucks" side of this, but at least show some recent games that can take full advantage of vista's programming (DX10 and multiple CPU's)
Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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Stern Maxwell
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.06 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Last Wolf
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Mattikus Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:43:42 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:41:53 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:39:17
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
No, thats just Vista, using up all your processing power.
I am a failure.
Vista vs XP
You fail.
Yes, and all those games are several years old and MADE FOR XP
I'm usually on the "Vista sucks" side of this, but at least show some recent games that can take full advantage of vista's programming (DX10 and multiple CPU's)
Vista continues to fail ___________________________________________
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.06 01:57:00 -
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lmao. someone used tomshardware as a source of legitimate info. --------------------- Q: WTF! Why?! A: Because I can. --------------------- |
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2008.03.06 01:58:00 -
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better ;]
Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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Athena Rivera
Minmatar omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.06 03:45:00 -
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I've been running multiple clients on my Core 2 Duo system and running EVE on my Vista machine and it takes up almost all my cpu although that only applies if you run premium with all effects enabled + the eye candy. With the classic content on however, I can run about 4 clients before the comp decides to lag a bit whereas running only 1 client does not even take much cpu at all. It really depends on a lot of factors which would be the type of cpu, ram, and graphics card along with the version you run for EVE. Always try different things out and see what works best and what won't run at all.
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Succubu5
Last Beyond Sands Actual Assault
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Posted - 2008.03.06 06:08:00 -
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Just run more than 1 account at a time, don't let that cpu idle.
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.03.06 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Last Wolf
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Mattikus Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:43:42 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:41:53 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:39:17
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
No, thats just Vista, using up all your processing power.
I am a failure.
Vista vs XP
You fail.
Yes, and all those games are several years old and MADE FOR XP
I'm usually on the "Vista sucks" side of this, but at least show some recent games that can take full advantage of vista's programming (DX10 and multiple CPU's)
Vista continues to fail
Your vista "7 months later" is already 5 months old, even so I will happily trade 5 fps for the greater stability of vista. ========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys. |
Stern Maxwell
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.06 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Last Wolf
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Mattikus Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:43:42 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:41:53 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:39:17
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
No, thats just Vista, using up all your processing power.
I am a failure.
Vista vs XP
You fail.
Yes, and all those games are several years old and MADE FOR XP
I'm usually on the "Vista sucks" side of this, but at least show some recent games that can take full advantage of vista's programming (DX10 and multiple CPU's)
Vista continues to fail
Your vista "7 months later" is already 5 months old, even so I will happily trade 5 fps for the greater stability of vista.
Also failure.
Vista Crashes
Vista crashing twice a day? I haven't had an XP crash in weeks.
Vista is so wonderful, that is why MS is abandoning it already.
WinXP - 2001-2007 Vista - 2007-2008
Long shelf life there Vista, boy you were almost as good as WinME!
Vista being replaced after two years of failure.
Windows 7 2008- ?
Linux would be the superior OS by far, if you could play games on it.
Would you kindly go get a stable OS.
A man chooses his own OS, a slave obeys MS and gets Vista. ___________________________________________
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Daelorn
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2008.03.06 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Last Wolf
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Mattikus Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:43:42 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:41:53 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:39:17
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
No, thats just Vista, using up all your processing power.
I am a failure.
Vista vs XP
You fail.
Yes, and all those games are several years old and MADE FOR XP
I'm usually on the "Vista sucks" side of this, but at least show some recent games that can take full advantage of vista's programming (DX10 and multiple CPU's)
Vista continues to fail
Your vista "7 months later" is already 5 months old, even so I will happily trade 5 fps for the greater stability of vista.
Also failure.
Vista Crashes
Vista crashing twice a day? I haven't had an XP crash in weeks.
Vista is so wonderful, that is why MS is abandoning it already.
WinXP - 2001-2007 Vista - 2007-2008
Long shelf life there Vista, boy you were almost as good as WinME!
Vista being replaced after two years of failure.
Windows 7 2008- ?
Linux would be the superior OS by far, if you could play games on it.
Would you kindly go get a stable OS.
A man chooses his own OS, a slave obeys MS and gets Vista.
Eh, I've never had Vista crash on me.
What am I doing wrong?
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Stern Maxwell
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Daelorn
Eh, I've never had Vista crash on me.
What am I doing wrong?
Your name reminded me of this.
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.03.06 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 06/03/2008 09:22:47 Certainly appears to be using multiple cores, running XP on a AMD X2 and while running EVE Core 0 is at just over 50% and Core 1 is at about 40%, XP running in the background uses about 1% on Core 0.
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.06 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Daelorn
Eh, I've never had Vista crash on me.
What am I doing wrong?
You must turn on the computer.
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Cottage Pie
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Posted - 2008.03.06 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Last Wolf
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Mattikus Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:43:42 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:41:53 Edited by: Mattikus on 06/03/2008 00:39:17
Originally by: Stern Maxwell
Originally by: Bohoba all four of mine are at work when I play eve so they must be using it
No, thats just Vista, using up all your processing power.
I am a failure.
Vista vs XP
You fail.
Yes, and all those games are several years old and MADE FOR XP
I'm usually on the "Vista sucks" side of this, but at least show some recent games that can take full advantage of vista's programming (DX10 and multiple CPU's)
Vista continues to fail
Your vista "7 months later" is already 5 months old, even so I will happily trade 5 fps for the greater stability of vista.
Also failure.
Vista Crashes
Vista crashing twice a day? I haven't had an XP crash in weeks.
Vista is so wonderful, that is why MS is abandoning it already.
WinXP - 2001-2007 Vista - 2007-2008
Long shelf life there Vista, boy you were almost as good as WinME!
Vista being replaced after two years of failure.
Windows 7 2008- ?
Linux would be the superior OS by far, if you could play games on it.
Would you kindly go get a stable OS.
A man chooses his own OS, a slave obeys MS and gets Vista.
you're one of those internet nutters aren't you? you've gone and transposed your own personality onto a product you see as better and...ugh i'm not even gonna try and suss out what's gone wrong in your head
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