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Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
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Posted - 2012.02.18 19:30:00 -
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Just wanted to give all the honest traders a heads up on this known scammer. Recently scammed Grirna out of 17 billion isk worth of faction POS's and other items, as well as the 5 billion isk he paid for the moons Xayder was selling. |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
737
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Posted - 2012.02.18 22:53:00 -
[2] - Quote
Any proof of these blatant lies? |
Raiz Nhell
DEEP CORPS
18
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Posted - 2012.02.19 09:13:00 -
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Yep, need proof that "honest traders" exist....
Also, OP states they got scammed by a known scammer... When will people stop training Stupid V?
I'm so carebear my Pod bleeds rainbow...
Beers + nullsec + dodgy fit = Loss mail |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
0
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Posted - 2012.02.19 10:43:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:Any proof of these blatant lies?
Yes in fact there is proof, as Grirna has the entire conversation saved. |
Grirna
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.19 10:49:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:Any proof of these blatant lies? Railgun 1986 > at work but we are closed today, doing some boring paper work Grirna > fun fun Railgun 1986 > there are a few others here some are facebooking :) Railgun 1986 > the boss is noot here so....=D Grirna > LOL Grirna > the station i use is in Uphene VI moon 16 Grirna > its next door the alachene Railgun 1986 > hmm i used the atlanis Railgun 1986 > where i stock my goods in Railgun 1986 > uphene works too Grirna > my gallente base is antollare which is only 3 jumps from uphene so thats why i use that 1 Railgun 1986 > ah kk Grirna > each harvester needs a coupler and silo correct? Railgun 1986 > correct Grirna > k Railgun 1986 > 2 silo's i always used + corp hanger Grirna > are they basically connected together like norm PI stuff or is it different Railgun 1986 > its to setup those pos, like PI very easy Grirna > ok Railgun 1986 > just connect harvester => couple=> silo Grirna > ok Grirna > DID YOU USE TORPS ON YOUR POS OR NO Grirna > srry caps Railgun 1986 > no most beams or projectile Grirna > kk Railgun 1986 > to be honest torps sucs as pos defend mods :) Grirna > figured Railgun 1986 > still thety can do high dps Grirna > you ina freighter? Railgun 1986 > yep i am Grirna > got bout 400k worth Railgun 1986 > np i have freighter containers Railgun 1986 > if you know what im hailing weeksly :) Railgun 1986 > +- 800k every 3 days Grirna > will you go to uphene so i can add to your load Railgun 1986 > yeah np that only 2 highsec jumps from where i store my goods Grirna > contracting now Grirna > up Railgun 1986 > got it Grirna > theres couple labs there that i had here might as well take them as well haha Railgun 1986 > just let you know i see 2 towers Railgun 1986 > you paid fro 3 :) Grirna > other is in uphene Railgun 1986 > kk Railgun 1986 > conttract that one too so i setup that pos fro ya Grirna > how you set for me Railgun 1986 > you know how to set it? :) Grirna > ya Railgun 1986 > i can help you if you want Grirna > please do Grirna > i misunderstood haha Railgun 1986 > well conttract the other stuff to me Grirna > think thats everything cept fuel Railgun 1986 > k where is the fuel? Railgun 1986 > dont be like me to forgot the fuel Grirna > uphene Grirna > want it as well? Railgun 1986 > kk i need fuel for atleast 2 hours Railgun 1986 > to setup the tower Railgun 1986 > cos first 2 hours its gonna drink alot of ennergy and fuel Grirna > sent you 6000 ... 2k for each to start it up Railgun 1986 > right we are ready to roll Railgun 1986 > lemme do last checks Grirna > sure thing Grirna > this is setup char Grirna > ignalious Grirna > its me Grirna > haha Railgun 1986 > hehe Railgun 1986 > hey is it possible that you can give me 1B laon? i give back when i log to xayder Railgun 1986 > i have something in jita that i dont want to miss it Ignalious > sure 1 sec Grirna > sent Railgun 1986 > tyvm i sent when i log to xayder Grirna > yw Railgun 1986 > brb with in 5mins Grirna > ok Railgun 1986 > alright im already on my way Railgun 1986 > you also asked a free neo moon? Grirna > your mail said you had 2 plat 1 neo Railgun 1986 > i have only those true Railgun 1986 > my alliance mate has one in beke Grirna > ahh ok Grirna > will he be interedted in a month or so Grirna > interested Railgun 1986 > hmm you can find that probly in a month Grirna > ok Railgun 1986 > he gonna give it cheap to other via eve furoms Railgun 1986 > *forums Grirna > tell him ty for asking Railgun 1986 > few jumps left Grirna > your ahead of me haha Railgun 1986 > :) Railgun 1986 > sorry i thought you left jita Railgun 1986 > didnt saw you on local :) Grirna > haha Grirna > i was on phone with garbage company Grirna > and poof you were gone Railgun 1986 > rule n.1 : do not trust anyone
classic last words haha |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
0
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Posted - 2012.02.19 10:55:00 -
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Also for those that don't feel that is good enough, I'm sure Grirna would forward you the eve mails that Xayder sent to him. |
Onlyonealive
Only One Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.02.19 11:04:00 -
[7] - Quote
..... |
Inkdew
Space Jumpers Bringers of Death.
6
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Posted - 2012.02.19 14:07:00 -
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Well.. too bad for you, atleast it's another name in my notepad file called: scammers |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
156
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Posted - 2012.02.19 16:01:00 -
[9] - Quote
If you're gonna break forum rules by posting a chatlog, the least you can do is not edit out the tears. Please paste in the juicy bits that came AFTER Rule #1.
Good work btw. I especially liked the part where he asks for a cool bil. on top of everything else, and gets it. Classic.
scammer > hey is it possible that you can give me 1B (removed)? i give back when i log to (removed) scammer > i have something in jita that i dont want to miss it vic > sure 1 sec vic > sent http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.19 20:42:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:If you're gonna break forum rules by posting a chatlog, the least you can do is not edit out the tears. Please paste in the juicy bits that came AFTER Rule #1.
There were no edits or tears, or "juicy bits" AFTER Rule #1.
Grirna is my husband, a 41 year old man with 2 little kids. Being scammed like this from someone you originally TRUSTED is quite a shock. So yeh, it did hurt my husband, but he didn't rage scream at Xayder, or anything like that. He saw that he scammed him and logged off of the game.
It's really sad that people are this greedy, and in my opinion, the only ones that are training STUPID V, are the thieves and scammers that don't know how to make their own isk.
It takes no skill to lie and steal.
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Inkdew
Space Jumpers Bringers of Death.
6
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Posted - 2012.02.19 20:46:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:Princess Bride wrote:If you're gonna break forum rules by posting a chatlog, the least you can do is not edit out the tears. Please paste in the juicy bits that came AFTER Rule #1. Grirna is my husband, a 41 year old man with 2 little kids. It takes no skill to lie and steal.
point one is irrelevant
and point 2 is a complete lie, it takes skill to lie and steal, you just obviously don't recognize it. |
Xayder
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.02.19 21:00:00 -
[12] - Quote
Toxic Bl0od wrote:Princess Bride wrote:If you're gonna break forum rules by posting a chatlog, the least you can do is not edit out the tears. Please paste in the juicy bits that came AFTER Rule #1. There were no edits or tears, or "juicy bits" AFTER Rule #1. Grirna is my husband, a 41 year old man with 2 little kids.
you are a liar, you sent me a mail that your husband has 3 kids
Quote:I just wanted to tell you what a low life person you really are. You scammed my husband and stole all his isk and items. I hope you know money doesn't come by so easily in the real world. You stole from a man with a wife and 3 children. That was $500 worth of isk that you stole. My husband trusted you. You led him on to believe you. What a nasty person you must be in real life.
GG |
Inkdew
Space Jumpers Bringers of Death.
6
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Posted - 2012.02.19 21:01:00 -
[13] - Quote
Xayder wrote:Toxic Bl0od wrote:Princess Bride wrote:If you're gonna break forum rules by posting a chatlog, the least you can do is not edit out the tears. Please paste in the juicy bits that came AFTER Rule #1. There were no edits or tears, or "juicy bits" AFTER Rule #1. Grirna is my husband, a 41 year old man with 2 little kids. you are a liar, you sent me a mail that your husband has 3 kids Quote:I just wanted to tell you what a low life person you really are. You scammed my husband and stole all his isk and items. I hope you know money doesn't come by so easily in the real world. You stole from a man with a wife and 3 children. That was $500 worth of isk that you stole. My husband trusted you. You led him on to believe you. What a nasty person you must be in real life.
GG
Lol? Like he's suppose to feel bad because he stole ingame money which, somehow in your little world, has real life value... and that somehow affects his 2.. now 3 kids? Stfu. |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:08:00 -
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Xayder wrote:Toxic Bl0od wrote:Princess Bride wrote:If you're gonna break forum rules by posting a chatlog, the least you can do is not edit out the tears. Please paste in the juicy bits that came AFTER Rule #1. There were no edits or tears, or "juicy bits" AFTER Rule #1. Grirna is my husband, a 41 year old man with 2 little kids. you are a liar, you sent me a mail that your husband has 3 kids Quote:I just wanted to tell you what a low life person you really are. You scammed my husband and stole all his isk and items. I hope you know money doesn't come by so easily in the real world. You stole from a man with a wife and 3 children. That was $500 worth of isk that you stole. My husband trusted you. You led him on to believe you. What a nasty person you must be in real life.
GG
I didn't count my son in my forum post, as I did in my eve mail to you. We support 3 kids, but only 2 are biologically Grirna's. And I am not a liar. |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:10:00 -
[15] - Quote
Inkdew wrote:Xayder wrote:Toxic Bl0od wrote:Princess Bride wrote:If you're gonna break forum rules by posting a chatlog, the least you can do is not edit out the tears. Please paste in the juicy bits that came AFTER Rule #1. There were no edits or tears, or "juicy bits" AFTER Rule #1. Grirna is my husband, a 41 year old man with 2 little kids. you are a liar, you sent me a mail that your husband has 3 kids Quote:I just wanted to tell you what a low life person you really are. You scammed my husband and stole all his isk and items. I hope you know money doesn't come by so easily in the real world. You stole from a man with a wife and 3 children. That was $500 worth of isk that you stole. My husband trusted you. You led him on to believe you. What a nasty person you must be in real life.
GG Lol? Like he's suppose to feel bad because he stole ingame money which, somehow in your little world, has real life value... and that somehow affects his 2.. now 3 kids? Stfu.
He stole in game money that cost my husband REAL WORLD MONEY to buy the PLEX that he used to turn into ISK. SO YES IT HAS REAL LIFE VALUE. Continue training STUPID V. |
Jita Alt666
908
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:19:00 -
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Rule #1 never trust anyone Rule #2 if you are stupid enough to get scammed, anything you post about it on any Eve related forum is an open invitation for ridicule and mockery - do not expect anything else. |
Djinn Xh'rnae
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:19:00 -
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Confirming that Toxic's husband spent $500 in a videogame even though money doesn't come so easily in the real world. |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:23:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Rule #1 never trust anyone Rule #2 if you are stupid enough to get scammed, anything you post about it on any Eve related forum is an open invitation for ridicule and mockery - do not expect anything else.
Whatever...
I posted here to warn the innocent victims of dirtbag scums that play this game. I really could care less about what the rest of you scammers think. |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:26:00 -
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Djinn Xh'rnae wrote:Confirming that Toxic's husband spent $500 in a videogame even though money doesn't come so easily in the real world.
It just so happens that Video Gaming is one of our family hobbies, so even though money doesn't come easy, hobbies are still alotted for after the bills are paid. |
george harries
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:32:00 -
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Hate to say it, but the person who scammed you was a Goon.....
I mean anyone else....realise ......don't...ever...ever deal with Goons....ever...'cos you will get your fingers burned. |
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Jita Alt666
909
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:33:00 -
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I have never scammed anyone. I have never fallen for a scam either. I find reading about the exploits of scammers amusing, I find the defending of stupidity from the victims even more amusing. Please continue. |
Doris Dents
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
159
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:41:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:Djinn Xh'rnae wrote:Confirming that Toxic's husband spent $500 in a videogame even though money doesn't come so easily in the real world. It just so happens that Video Gaming is one of our family hobbies, so even though money doesn't come easy, hobbies are still alotted for after the bills are paid. At least space money comes easily if a goon hero took your dumb hubby for 17bn |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
154
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:44:00 -
[23] - Quote
Congrats on the haul, Xayder. |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:48:00 -
[24] - Quote
george harries wrote:Hate to say it, but the person who scammed you was a Goon..... I mean anyone else....realise ......don't...ever...ever deal with Goons....ever...'cos you will get your fingers burned.
Yeh, I don't think he really realized who he was dealing with. |
Aggressive Nutmeg
115
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Posted - 2012.02.19 22:49:00 -
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I don't understand why, in a game famous for its dishonest player base, people are still shocked at routine scams like this.
I think some people get lazy, they get greedy and they slowly start to gamble more with their in-game relationships.
Until... WALLOP! Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.19 23:07:00 -
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Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:I don't understand why, in a game famous for its dishonest player base, people are still shocked at routine scams like this.
I think some people get lazy, they get greedy and they slowly start to gamble more with their in-game relationships.
Until... WALLOP!
It's famous for its dishonest player base? Seriously. I wasn't aware of this, nor was my husband. Maybe we're playing the wrong game!! |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
434
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Posted - 2012.02.20 00:01:00 -
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you are. |
Inkdew
Space Jumpers Bringers of Death.
6
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Posted - 2012.02.20 00:20:00 -
[28] - Quote
So you spent 500$ into a game? Ok.. Still your "point" about this affecting your 3 children is moot, moneys already spent.. were they gonna eat that is isk if it wasn't stolen?
edit:
Quote:It's famous for its dishonest player base? Seriously. I wasn't aware of this, nor was my husband. Maybe we're playing the wrong game!![
You are, as another recently enlightened person on the nature of eve kindly put it:
Quote:I realize now that this game isn't about rules and regulations, but about human survival, or how we percieve it to be in a game. |
StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
31
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Posted - 2012.02.20 01:22:00 -
[29] - Quote
I see no proof really.Just a freighter convo.No one said "heh i got yo stuffs".No time stamps to cross-ref eve play times through eve-when website (not to be confused with eve-who) that has a database of the exact time any account by any said person logging on or off that is saved to a file on a 3.5 inch floppy server located right next to a volcano.
Nothing.
Not even a link to a pic of a group of people pointing and laughing at a guy in a white suit who just was splashed by a mountain clay mud puddle. More proof is needed.Until it is given i call this a slanderous piece of propaganda cobbled together to tarnish the goons good name.We live in an age where we can find anything out about anyone anytime.And prove it.Now you try. |
Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 03:22:00 -
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Inkdew wrote:So you spent 500$ into a game? Ok.. Still your "point" about this affecting your 3 children is moot, moneys already spent.. were they gonna eat that is isk if it wasn't stolen? edit: Quote:It's famous for its dishonest player base? Seriously. I wasn't aware of this, nor was my husband. Maybe we're playing the wrong game!![ You are, as another recently enlightened person on the nature of eve kindly put it: Quote:I realize now that this game isn't about rules and regulations, but about human survival, or how we percieve it to be in a game.
I don't recall saying the scam directly affected our 3 children. I was just pointing out that Grirna has a family, and so he is limited as to the money he can spend on gaming, and having someone just swoop in, pretend to be friends, and offer to help you out, swindling you out of everything you just bought, is just wrong.
I don't know why this game is called 'Eve'.. they should change the name to 'Thieves' |
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Inkdew
Space Jumpers Bringers of Death.
7
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Posted - 2012.02.20 04:08:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:Inkdew wrote:So you spent 500$ into a game? Ok.. Still your "point" about this affecting your 3 children is moot, moneys already spent.. were they gonna eat that is isk if it wasn't stolen? edit: Quote:It's famous for its dishonest player base? Seriously. I wasn't aware of this, nor was my husband. Maybe we're playing the wrong game!![ You are, as another recently enlightened person on the nature of eve kindly put it: Quote:I realize now that this game isn't about rules and regulations, but about human survival, or how we percieve it to be in a game. I don't recall saying the scam directly affected our 3 children. I was just pointing out that Grirna has a family, and so he is limited as to the money he can spend on gaming, and having someone just swoop in, pretend to be friends, and offer to help you out, swindling you out of everything you just bought, is just wrong.I don't know why this game is called 'Eve'.. they should change the name to 'Thieves'
The money he should spend on gaming is 15$ a month for the payment. ( now if you want to pay more that's your business and its all good, but don't complain if he's spending it on ingame assets which can, and apparently, will be stolen. Just because you bought the stuff with real money that doesn't make it ( in the thief's eyes ) any harder to steal. And just because you bought it with real money doesn't make it any more of a "crime" to steal it to anyone but you.. so don't start to make that a point in your argument. ) |
Onlyonealive
Only One Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.02.20 04:19:00 -
[32] - Quote
I work ona farm everyday and guess what peeps i step on goons (****) all day long...id sure love to meet a goon IRL...scamming wouldnt be so amusing all of a sudden ...imagine that |
Onlyonealive
Only One Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.02.20 04:23:00 -
[33] - Quote
Forgot to say srry for your loss bro but ya he isa goon...
if you try and trade with dung ... youll get it on your hands.. remember that |
Grirna
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 04:36:00 -
[34] - Quote
StonerPhReaK wrote:I see no proof really.Just a freighter convo.No one said "heh i got yo stuffs".No time stamps to cross-ref eve play times through eve-when website (not to be confused with eve-who) that has a database of the exact time any account by any said person logging on or off that is saved to a file on a 3.5 inch floppy server located right next to a volcano.
Nothing.
Not even a link to a pic of a group of people pointing and laughing at a guy in a white suit who just was splashed by a mountain clay mud puddle. More proof is needed.Until it is given i call this a slanderous piece of propaganda cobbled together to tarnish the goons good name.We live in an age where we can find anything out about anyone anytime.And prove it.Now you try.
Start from bottom for mail convo:
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:26 To: Grirna,
am buying/finding WH and sell it so i watch pretty much eve forums ever hour :) i didnt had the intention to sell those moons, but saw ya advert so i thought, why i dont sell it since i have plenty of moons who can make up to +5B a month so 5 B for my 3 moons? its a deal then convo me in 10 mins i give more info + if you want a spreadsheet for complex or calculate how much you need fuel (cost) and what the income is for those moons of you just raw sell it
cheers
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:22 To: Xayder,
i have a wtb advert on forum is why i thoguth you were talkin bout something else...where did you see my interest jus curious...btw i think ill take all 3 jus figuring for a min
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:18 To: Grirna,
platinum moon 1B/ piece neo 3B i have a pos there i can scope it down its a "deatd star" fitted tower for ultimate protection :p
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:14 To: Xayder,
ok
Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:13 To: Grirna,
i will give you the details in 10 mins
Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:08 To: Xayder,
Doh ok im interested then of course haha
Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:07 To: Grirna,
those moons are in the system -.-
Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:07 To: Xayder,
im only looking for moons in the systems listed but i appreciate your mail thanks
got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 20:53 To: Grirna,
hey i have 2 platinum moons and 1 neo moon interess mail me back |
Inkdew
Space Jumpers Bringers of Death.
7
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Posted - 2012.02.20 04:40:00 -
[35] - Quote
Grirna wrote:StonerPhReaK wrote:I see no proof really.Just a freighter convo.No one said "heh i got yo stuffs".No time stamps to cross-ref eve play times through eve-when website (not to be confused with eve-who) that has a database of the exact time any account by any said person logging on or off that is saved to a file on a 3.5 inch floppy server located right next to a volcano.
Nothing.
Not even a link to a pic of a group of people pointing and laughing at a guy in a white suit who just was splashed by a mountain clay mud puddle. More proof is needed.Until it is given i call this a slanderous piece of propaganda cobbled together to tarnish the goons good name.We live in an age where we can find anything out about anyone anytime.And prove it.Now you try. Start from bottom for mail convo: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:26 To: Grirna, am buying/finding WH and sell it so i watch pretty much eve forums ever hour :) i didnt had the intention to sell those moons, but saw ya advert so i thought, why i dont sell it since i have plenty of moons who can make up to +5B a month so 5 B for my 3 moons? its a deal then convo me in 10 mins i give more info + if you want a spreadsheet for complex or calculate how much you need fuel (cost) and what the income is for those moons of you just raw sell it cheers
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:22 To: Xayder, i have a wtb advert on forum is why i thoguth you were talkin bout something else...where did you see my interest jus curious...btw i think ill take all 3 jus figuring for a min
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:18 To: Grirna, platinum moon 1B/ piece neo 3B i have a pos there i can scope it down its a "deatd star" fitted tower for ultimate protection :p
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:14 To: Xayder, ok
Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:13 To: Grirna, i will give you the details in 10 mins
Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:08 To: Xayder, Doh ok im interested then of course haha
Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:07 To: Grirna, those moons are in the system -.-
Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:07 To: Xayder, im only looking for moons in the systems listed but i appreciate your mail thanks
got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 20:53 To: Grirna, hey i have 2 platinum moons and 1 neo moon interess mail me back
Nowhere in this mess of mail does it say he scammed you. |
Krenalla
Modern Order of the Praetorians
19
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Posted - 2012.02.20 05:04:00 -
[36] - Quote
Sorry to hear of your loss.
i myself have a young daughter that relies on me not being dumb playing internet spaceships to support her.
if you send me 1 billion isk i can arrange food parcels and toiletries to be delivered
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
156
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Posted - 2012.02.20 05:05:00 -
[37] - Quote
*facepalm*
Okay, let's break it down so far:
1) Didn't do research on game 2) Trusted a guy he just met 3) Bought PLEX to get extra ISK (I know this last one isn't as bad as 1 and 2 but I will never do it.)
You both should seriously consider moving to a different game where people are protected from scams. I have no sympathy for you, your husband, your hobby, or your rug rats. If gaming is going to be your family hobby, then you should invest a little more time researching the game you're going to play, and a little less grocery money until you've gotten slightly good at it.
This is me, laughing at you for bringing a cookie to Eve.
Edit: Wait, is it a troll? Unsure now. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Grirna
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 05:08:00 -
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Inkdew wrote:Grirna wrote:StonerPhReaK wrote:I see no proof really.Just a freighter convo.No one said "heh i got yo stuffs".No time stamps to cross-ref eve play times through eve-when website (not to be confused with eve-who) that has a database of the exact time any account by any said person logging on or off that is saved to a file on a 3.5 inch floppy server located right next to a volcano.
Nothing.
Not even a link to a pic of a group of people pointing and laughing at a guy in a white suit who just was splashed by a mountain clay mud puddle. More proof is needed.Until it is given i call this a slanderous piece of propaganda cobbled together to tarnish the goons good name.We live in an age where we can find anything out about anyone anytime.And prove it.Now you try. Start from bottom for mail convo: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:26 To: Grirna, am buying/finding WH and sell it so i watch pretty much eve forums ever hour :) i didnt had the intention to sell those moons, but saw ya advert so i thought, why i dont sell it since i have plenty of moons who can make up to +5B a month so 5 B for my 3 moons? its a deal then convo me in 10 mins i give more info + if you want a spreadsheet for complex or calculate how much you need fuel (cost) and what the income is for those moons of you just raw sell it cheers
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:22 To: Xayder, i have a wtb advert on forum is why i thoguth you were talkin bout something else...where did you see my interest jus curious...btw i think ill take all 3 jus figuring for a min
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:18 To: Grirna, platinum moon 1B/ piece neo 3B i have a pos there i can scope it down its a "deatd star" fitted tower for ultimate protection :p
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:14 To: Xayder, ok
Re: Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:13 To: Grirna, i will give you the details in 10 mins
Re: Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:08 To: Xayder, Doh ok im interested then of course haha
Re: Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 21:07 To: Grirna, those moons are in the system -.-
Re: got 3 moons with pos From: Grirna Sent: 2012.02.14 21:07 To: Xayder, im only looking for moons in the systems listed but i appreciate your mail thanks
got 3 moons with pos From: Xayder Sent: 2012.02.14 20:53 To: Grirna, hey i have 2 platinum moons and 1 neo moon interess mail me back Nowhere in this mess of mail does it say he scammed you. obviously you dint read the ingame convo |
Grirna
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 05:12:00 -
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[quote=Princess Bride]*facepalm*
Okay, let's break it down so far:
1) Didn't do research on game 2) Trusted a guy he just met 3) Bought PLEX to get extra ISK (I know this last one isn't as bad as 1 and 2 but I will never do it.)
You both should seriously consider moving to a different game where people are protected from scams. I have no sympathy for you, your husband, your hobby, or your rug rats. If gaming is going to be your family hobby, then you should invest a little more time researching the game you're going to play, and a little less grocery money until you've gotten slightly good at it.
This is me, laughing at you for bringing a cookie to Eve.
Edit: Wait, is it a troll? Unsure now.[/quote
Im worndering if your a ****** hiding behind a female char or just a plain ole ****...you tell me |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
156
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Posted - 2012.02.20 05:13:00 -
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Grirna wrote:[quote=Princess Bride]*facepalm* Okay, let's break it down so far: 1) Didn't do research on game 2) Trusted a guy he just met 3) Bought PLEX to get extra ISK (I know this last one isn't as bad as 1 and 2 but I will never do it.) You both should seriously consider moving to a different game where people are protected from scams. I have no sympathy for you, your husband, your hobby, or your rug rats. If gaming is going to be your family hobby, then you should invest a little more time researching the game you're going to play, and a little less grocery money until you've gotten slightly good at it. This is me, laughing at you for bringing a cookie to Eve. Edit: Wait, is it a troll? Unsure now.[/quote Im worndering if your a ****** hiding behind a female char or just a plain ole ****...you tell me
Hmmm... I think it's a troll. *pokes troll w/stick*
http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
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Toxic Bl0od
The College of Unseen Academicals University of Thoth
2
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Posted - 2012.02.20 05:16:00 -
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Whatever.. why don't all you ball-less guys go suck Xayder and get it over with already. I'm finished talking to immature scum. |
Sirhan Blixt
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.02.20 06:38:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:Whatever.. why don't all you ball-less guys go suck Xayder and get it over with already. I'm finished talking to immature scum.
I don't know what's more pathetic: that you got caught in one of the most barefaced, connect-the-dot scams circulating in the game (this was NOT "the Brinks Job"), or that you're waving around the marks' age and family status as some sort of defense.
HURRR WE HAVE FAMILY AND KIDS DOES THAT NOT ENTITLE US TO MORE INSULATION AGAINST PAIN AND RISK THAN EVERYBODY ELSE?
No, it does not. What that does indicate is that you two should have friggin' known better. It makes your failure all the more risible.
I only hope you two aren't home-schooling. |
Krenalla
Modern Order of the Praetorians
19
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Posted - 2012.02.20 06:47:00 -
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I would like to see the chat log when the wife told the husband, if you dont do anything about it ill write a strongly worded eve-mail to the scammer.
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2012.02.20 11:11:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:It takes no skill to lie and steal.
That must make your husband extra stupid for falling for it! Does he wear velcro shoes and a helmet in public by any chance? |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
554
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Posted - 2012.02.20 11:42:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:Princess Bride wrote:If you're gonna break forum rules by posting a chatlog, the least you can do is not edit out the tears. Please paste in the juicy bits that came AFTER Rule #1. It takes no skill to lie and steal.
actually it kind of does |
Kai Jyokoroi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.02.20 12:01:00 -
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So let me sum this thread up if I can
1) You spent real money to play Eve Online: A Terrible Game in the first place (the first mistake) 2) You then spend hundreds and hundreds of real dollars to make fake spacemoney 3) Believe that a random person will randomly sell you high end moons 4) Give random person all $500 dollars of your spacemoney 5) Be shocked when you get nothing 6) Really, actually post that you have kids and one of them is adopted as your defence (by the way, $500 a year at 4 percent for 15 years is over ten thousand dollars to a college fund, so you're literally a bad parent for spending your money like this) 7) Post on forums about how the person taking your spacemoney has no ~honour~ 8) Expect something other than expect mockery, scorn and laughter 9) Spit out pacifier and leave thread
After reading this thread I need a little time alone locked in the bathroom with some kleenex and a netbook because threads like this are the only reason I play this atrocious game
(Also I've got these speakers which the factory was overstocked on, I can sell them to you for the low low price of $1300 out of the back of my van, are you interested) |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
154
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Posted - 2012.02.20 13:56:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:Whatever.. why don't all you ball-less guys go suck Xayder and get it over with already. I'm finished talking to immature scum.
Hey now, some of us are highly refined scum. *sips tea, pinky raised* |
Kai Jyokoroi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.02.20 14:11:00 -
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Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:Toxic Bl0od wrote:Whatever.. why don't all you ball-less guys go suck Xayder and get it over with already. I'm finished talking to immature scum. Hey now, some of us are highly refined scum. *sips tea, pinky raised*
Still lollin' that Morris Falter stole those supercarriers from your crew all those years ago btw ~puppetmaster~
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
154
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Posted - 2012.02.20 14:16:00 -
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"Those supercarriers?" So now it's plural? :) |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:15:00 -
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I am a goonwaffe director, and I'm quite upset that one of our members may have treated you in such a disrespectful manner.
I would be happy to open an investigation into this. However, we have a standard 500m deposit for investigations: this is to ensure that my time and the time of my fellow directors is not wasted. If this was a scam, it will be returned with the goods (or their isk value if they've been sold or otherwise lost). If not, it will be kept as an investigation fee.
Please send the money directly to the Goonwaffe corp wallet and send me an in-game mail with all relevant evidence. |
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The Groundskeeper
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:39:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:Inkdew wrote:Xayder wrote:Toxic Bl0od wrote:
Grirna is my husband, a 41 year old man with 2 little kids.
you are a liar, you sent me a mail that your husband has 3 kids Lol? Like he's suppose to feel bad because he stole ingame money which, somehow in your little world, has real life value... and that somehow affects his 2.. now 3 kids? Stfu. He stole in game money that cost my husband REAL WORLD MONEY to buy the PLEX that he used to turn into ISK. SO YES IT HAS REAL LIFE VALUE. Continue training STUPID V.
I for one am horrified by the parenting decisions of people who, despite a rapidly-growing stable of children - so numerous that they themselves cannot keep count - will recklessly spend hundreds of dollars on imaginary internet spaceships. Money that they themselves admit that they can ill afford.
Surely in today's economic climate that money would have been better spent on putting food on the table, or perhaps on clothing your offspring. Perhaps it is time that you sat down with your husband and re-assessed your life priorities instead of continuing to spend the college funds of your burgeoning brat-pack on pixels and imaginary possessions. Less time spent falling victims to simple and easily-avoidable scams might give you more time to spend rebuilding your parental relationships with the latch-key children you abandoned in favour of shiny graphics and imaginary accomplishments.
You might also find it handy to keep a list handy of your childrens' names, so that you can easily keep tabs on who they are and how many of them exist at any given time. |
Atomik Harmonik
Working Girls
15
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Posted - 2012.02.20 16:52:00 -
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Onlyonealive wrote:I work ona farm everyday and guess what peeps i step on goons (****) all day long...id sure love to meet a goon IRL...scamming wouldnt be so amusing all of a sudden ...imagine that
most elected government officials are goons...right behind them are the bankers.
fact |
Krows
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.20 16:53:00 -
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With $500 I'd buy myself a wife who didn't post this **** on the forums for the world to see. But don't fret, with this lesson maybe your children will make better decisions than you and your husband in the future.
Either way, it's just a game, it's not like you lost real mon- nevermind.
Onlyonealive wrote:I work ona farm everyday and guess what peeps i step on goons (****) all day long...id sure love to meet a goon IRL...scamming wouldnt be so amusing all of a sudden ...imagine that
Any day, any time, Farmer John. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
154
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Posted - 2012.02.20 17:00:00 -
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The Groundskeeper wrote:I for one am horrified by the parenting decisions of people who, despite a rapidly-growing stable of children - so numerous that they themselves cannot keep count - will recklessly spend hundreds of dollars on imaginary internet spaceships. Money that they themselves admit that they can ill afford.
Surely in today's economic climate that money would have been better spent on putting food on the table, or perhaps on clothing your offspring. Perhaps it is time that you sat down with your husband and re-assessed your life priorities instead of continuing to spend the college funds of your burgeoning brat-pack on pixels and imaginary possessions. Less time spent falling victims to simple and easily-avoidable scams might give you more time to spend rebuilding your parental relationships with the latch-key children you abandoned in favour of shiny graphics and imaginary accomplishments.
You might also find it handy to keep a list handy of your childrens' names, so that you can easily keep tabs on who they are and how many of them exist at any given time.
Won't someone think of the children! |
ShanghaiBarbie
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.20 17:03:00 -
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If my husband lost $500 dollars in a video game then I'd divorce him for his financial recklessness. It's one thing for your husband to make an idiotic mistake, and another for you to make him look like he's tied to ball and chain. Stop making your husband regret his marriage.
Who knows, maybe your children will attend business school to avenge your $500 dollars for you. |
WarProfit
Ubuntu Inc. Lonely Maple Conglomeration
3
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Posted - 2012.02.20 19:40:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:Inkdew wrote:So you spent 500$ into a game? Ok.. Still your "point" about this affecting your 3 children is moot, moneys already spent.. were they gonna eat that is isk if it wasn't stolen? edit: Quote:It's famous for its dishonest player base? Seriously. I wasn't aware of this, nor was my husband. Maybe we're playing the wrong game!![ You are, as another recently enlightened person on the nature of eve kindly put it: Quote:I realize now that this game isn't about rules and regulations, but about human survival, or how we percieve it to be in a game. I don't recall saying the scam directly affected our 3 children. I was just pointing out that Grirna has a family, and so he is limited as to the money he can spend on gaming, and having someone just swoop in, pretend to be friends, and offer to help you out, swindling you out of everything you just bought, is just wrong. I don't know why this game is called 'Eve'.. they should change the name to 'Thieves'
How much for the 3 children? I have a client in singapore that will pay nicely for them. |
Djinn Xh'rnae
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 22:41:00 -
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Toxic Bl0od wrote:I didn't count my son in my forum post, as I did in my eve mail to you. We support 3 kids, but only 2 are biologically Grirna's. And I am not a liar. Confirming Toxic's family cherishes the 2 children that are Grirna's. The third child she forgot to mention lives under the stairs in a box with a bowl of water and occasional scraps from dinner. |
Daemon Ceed
Brotherhood Of Treachery
12
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Posted - 2012.02.20 23:08:00 -
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This is just rich! The family man with children guilt trip was precious, too. I wonder if your kids will be angry that the $500 that could have gone to their college fund was squandered on spacemoney and stolen by a Goon. While you may find this atrocious, I find it hilarious. Your children should apply for emancipation, because any adult who would be such a fool as to get scammed by a Goon (no offense, Goons. gg) deserves it.
Since you are so apt to waste RL money, I would like to apply for a $500 loan. I'll be honest though. I plan to spend it on liquor, drugs, and cheap women. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.02.21 00:58:00 -
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Posting in an Istvaan Shogaatsu approved thread. I also believe that C&P would do a better job of raising the children in question. I nominate Lady Spank for mom and Darius III for Dad. |
Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.02.21 12:15:00 -
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ITT:
Guy makes wife go yell at bad people. |
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Amelia Shortcake
N.W.A.
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 13:15:00 -
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Grirna wrote: Railgun 1986 > hey is it possible that you can give me 1B laon? i give back...
Priceless
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CatreX Nolen
GriffinWaffe The Jagged Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:59:00 -
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Still laughing so bad at this.
GG Goonies. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
209
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:41:00 -
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Thank you for the Scammer Warning,
Sorry your husband got scammed...
The majority of EvE's unpaid advertising is centered around the obscene scams players successfully pull off. There are multiple cases of trillion isk scams, infamous alliance dispandings by spies, and other forms of back-stabbing. Please be very weary with who you trust, and no that the only person that can protect your assets is you... |
Jobrosk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 03:07:00 -
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More importantly than anything anyone has said yet your husband broke the very first hard learned rule of eve: don't buy anything you can't afford to lose. Everyone has a moment early on where they buy their first destroyer or cruiser or something and spend all their money on it only to get killed by a rat or something and then have nothing. This game doesn't gently hint at this rule it slaps you in the face with it. I fly a Drake. This isn't because I can't afford a better ship. Hell I'm not too far away from getting in a tengu. I just want to make enough money with my drake that once I spend that hundreds of millions of isk I'll still be able to function if I lose it. Your husband should have gotten 1 moon, lost a billion and then learned a lesson. As it was he spent more than he could lose. |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
159
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Posted - 2012.02.23 21:32:00 -
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Stepping back and looking at this I think the whole thing was a sympathy scam. Sometimes it's hard to tell if someone is 'really that stupid', trolling, or just playing dumb in hopes of free ISK. X up if you sent "poor mom" ISK or real currency please. C'mon now, don't be shy... I know that guy who was evemailing her back and forth sent SOMETHING. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Kosh Seere
Dissonance Corp BLACK-MARK
2
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Posted - 2012.02.25 14:33:00 -
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Your tears makes it tingle in my pants! Balls! |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1031
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Posted - 2012.02.25 15:54:00 -
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Chatlogs and EVEmails removed as it is not allowed to post them here.
CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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