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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2004.03.31 16:28:00 -
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Once more we see the results of the Minmatar terror campaign:
http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp
Cunningly hiding their despicable deeds by using cheap temporary facial realignment surgery and posing as Amarrians and Caldari they once again unleash their brand of 'freedom fighting' on the galaxy - little more than thuggish murder used as a cover for their psycopathic tendancies.
Doubtless they will deny responsibility - what then of their secret missile tests? We all know that long range missile frigates are a Minmatar speciality. And the mobile bioweapons labs? Pretty clever of them to place them into shuttles jetting around Pator - but not clever enough! Perhaps now the time has come for the entirity of the civilised nations of EVE to stamp out these terrorists!
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.03.31 16:31:00 -
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my, the propaganda machine is working overtime today
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.03.31 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 31/03/2004 17:02:47
I do not condone terrorism of any sort but I can understand the feelings of those enraged by the marketing of this new product.
Taken from official news source...
"One such ad depicts a group of Amarrian theology students outside St. JunipÆs Cathedral in Dam-Torsad, one of Amarr PrimeÆs oldest and most definitive landmarks. The youngstersÆ study meet turns into a wild party after one of the girls pops a can of Quafe Ultra, resulting in the cathedralÆs single massive spire being portrayed in rather an unwholesome allegorical light."
"One scene thatÆs caused an uproar among various fundamentalist factions involves two of the main characters, Amarr girl Nadira and Brutor male Okar, engaging in a bout of severely salty reparteÚ immediately followed by quite obviously-hinted-at sexual activity."
Bleeehhhh I feel sick to my stomach!
The Gallente are destroying our culture and traditions and therefore the Empire itself by stealth while getting us to pay them for doing it...
I call on the Emperor to ban Quafe Ultra or at the very least impose stringent sales taxes on it the proceeds of which can be provided to organisations such as the SPCS (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Slave) or ACE (Amarrian Cultural Exchange) which work to further the understanding of Amarrian cultural and traditions in the wider EVE universe...
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.03.31 16:58:00 -
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Will we see you later, then, Hardin?
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:06:00 -
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I do not think I will attend such a party despite the profusion of pretty Gallente wenches who will no doubt be in attendance...
It is precisely because I was lead astray as a youngster and developed this unbreakable addiction to Gallente wenches (a situation I feel much regret and guilt about) that I want to ensure that this generation of Amarr youth are not led astray by the guiles of the Gallente...
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:09:00 -
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No better way to show that then to shoot them, though
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:12:00 -
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Do you think I had something to do with this terrorist action Discorporation?
I spend all day shooting terrorists. I may sympathise with those who undertook this action but there are better ways of getting your point across than bullet and bomb!
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:19:00 -
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I know, Hardin, don't worry.
It'd be fun to see what happens.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.03.31 18:41:00 -
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Minmatar terror campaign cunningly hiding their despicable deeds posing as Amarrians and Caldari unleash brand of 'freedom fighting' on the galaxy thuggish murder psycopathic tendancies Doubtless they will deny responsibility secret missile tests long range missile frigates Minmatar speciality mobile bioweapons labs in shuttles jetting around Pator the entirity of the civilised nations stamp out terrorists
Athule do you want to shave or why are you frothing with so many words? --------------------------------------
Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life. Ritual of the Qua'nadhar. |
Kyt Kraiten
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Posted - 2004.03.31 19:48:00 -
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Look at all the Amarr, going positively insane at even the slightest hint that others don't look up at them as divine superior beings. There they go, reeling off against our liberal federal entertainment industry. Yes, i am a federation citizen of mixed heritage, and proud to be so. For nowhere but the federation is there such a thing as freedom of the *individual*.
That's what we all are afterall. Individuals. We are more than just parts in a machine called the Amarr empire or the Minmatar republic, we are unique individual beings, and Amarr may clash with Amarr as Minmatar clash with Minmatar. But only is this tolerated, even embraced, in the federation. All you others simply attempt to strike it down with an iron fist, preferrably with the least amount of damage to yourselves. Demanding things that offend you be banned from a whole group of people, you do not get to decide for them. If the Amarr youth wish to see the movie, let them! The ratings speak for themselves, there's a market for the movie in the empire, you can't just brush that under the carpet.
This has been a good decade for the spread of freedom, and this growing trend amongst the Amarr youth to embrace modern culture and freedom can, in the long run, only be a good thing. As for you religious conservative fundamentalists. I can do nothing else but laugh, especially thinking about the angry responses i am no doubt about to receive from you.
Then again, you might think you'd be clever by not responding. I laugh at that thought too.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.03.31 20:11:00 -
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Athule, you drink to much Quafe. I can not see any connections to Oracle. And i dislike this holoreel, too. Please don't get me wrong. I condemn all kinds of terroristic acts but to a small degree i have some sympathy for this terrorists. I am happy to see Hardin becoming wiser and changing his way of life in a way to become a good model for the amarrian youth.
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haggis
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Posted - 2004.03.31 20:53:00 -
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Hardin, if an empire is not destroyed by force, then it falls due to elements within, naturally because the amarr empire is starting to decline it is feeling emotions of denial, anger, blame and envy, so it is natural for many amarr to firstly blame things as petty as commercials, and thus feel two quite contradictory thoughts (that the empire is strong and almighty, and that small, insignificant things, such as commercials, are destroying it).
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.03.31 21:31:00 -
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It seems Athule have taken up his old habit of misusing Blue Pills.
Please Athule you knowyour a danger to others in your Apoc while intoxicated
i think Oracle have other Things to do, than chasing Phantoms. Who Knows what they are planning right now, Better watch out, You dirty Amarrian tale spinners So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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T Dave
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Posted - 2004.03.31 21:42:00 -
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Hardin,
You seem to contradict yourself my friend....in the space of one sentence...you say, and I quote "I spend all day shooting terrorists", before following up with, and again I quote, "...but there are better ways of getting your point across than bullet and bomb!"
Then why shoot the 'terrorists'? I am impressed to a certain extent that you seem to acknowledge brute force as not being the best solution to any conflict, but why oppose your own apparent philosophy?
Just curious. - - - - - - - - - Memoirs of a Tortured Soul Chapter 1
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Davit Gudhlyft
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Posted - 2004.03.31 22:12:00 -
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Shooting down a "celebrity" is an action used to make a point, though it is not the best way of doing that.
Shooting down a terrorist, however, is not an action used to make a point, but an action committed to reducing a threat by removing the fighting component (i.e. the pilot)
That is why doing one yet discouraging the other is not hypocritical.
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Sharque E'Gral
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Posted - 2004.03.31 23:11:00 -
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The gallente are destroying more than culture - they are destroying morality.
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Dhaer Gellon
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Posted - 2004.04.01 07:34:00 -
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A direct accusation, and no comment at all from Oracle? Interesting. Mind you, I did read somewhere, I'm sure, that they'd turned their backs on the Amarr vs Minmatar vs Other Minmatar forum bunfight, so it's not all that surprising.
I severely doubt they'd strike at a Gallente gathering, though, least of all one that had absolutely nothing to do with what they're fighting against.
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Arckenthia brodaillia
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Posted - 2004.04.01 11:33:00 -
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Those who make most noise are the one's who fear the rest the most or are seeking self approval.
On the other hand, those who are the quietest are the one's you should be listening to or fearing the most.
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Karsten
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Posted - 2004.04.01 17:43:00 -
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Quote:
The Gallente are destroying our culture and traditions and therefore the Empire itself by stealth while getting us to pay them for doing it...
If the culture and traditions of the mighty amarr empire are threaten by a single holoreed ...
In short if the culture and traditions can not survive a single holoreed there is not much left of culture and traditions.
Karsten
Karsten
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Xraal I
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Posted - 2004.04.01 22:09:00 -
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Change starts within.
As surely as the sun sets on a given planet, as surely will the continued contact between our nations mean increased exchange of traditions and values.
The Amarr Empire must adapt or die.
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Arckenthia brodaillia
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Posted - 2004.04.02 12:06:00 -
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Do you not talk the same language, do you not lust after the same things, do you not each preach to each other your beliefs, do you both believe only war is the answer?
I know it is difficult to understand another personÆs beliefs, even the actions they take, and yes war is sometime inevitable.
However, War is the easy way out. It seems you and you enemy has more in common than you think
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Dhaer Gellon
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Posted - 2004.04.02 13:47:00 -
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Quote: Do you not talk the same language, do you not lust after the same things, do you not each preach to each other your beliefs, do you both believe only war is the answer?
I know it is difficult to understand another personÆs beliefs, even the actions they take, and yes war is sometime inevitable.
However, War is the easy way out. It seems you and you enemy has more in common than you think
I think the easiest answer to your first two questions, even though they are largely rhetorical in nature, is no.
It's true that quite a few Minmatar have Amarrian as a first language, and it is perhaps telling that those self same Amarrian speaking Minmatar are the loudest advocates of violence toward the empire. They are usually first generation freed slaves, and have direct, first hand experience of Amarrian beliefs and wants, and it is because these beliefs are not shared that there is conflict.
Is war inevitable? So long as each side keeps putting angry men in space ships, and relieving them of any state culpability, I think so, yes. Is it the only answer? No, not by any means.
After all, the Amarrians could simply accept the losses and not bother to defend their convoys and people, and the Minmatar could simply accept that a third of their populace is doomed to a life of slavery.(Along with a number of Gallente and Caldari. A fact which seems to be ignored by both states.)
Or, the Minmatar republic and the Amarr empire could sit down around the table and discuss things as amicably as possible from equally intractable negotiating positions. While this goes on, a third of the Minmatar populace remains in servitude to the Amarr empire, and an increasing number of Minmatar start getting frustrated at a lack of decisive action and results from the protracted negotiatonal stand-off that would occur.
So, you see, whilst war is not the only answer, it may be the only acceptable answer.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.02 14:35:00 -
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Quote: ...war is not the only answer, it may be the only acceptable answer.
Yet what do you think this war will be? Regional or pan galactic? What if it begins with a small flame and turns into a conflagration of the eve world?
Can you forsee what this might mean? --------------------------------------
Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life. Ritual of the Qua'nadhar. |
Dhaer Gellon
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Posted - 2004.04.03 00:56:00 -
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War does not decide who is right, Tsual, but rather who is left.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.03 01:07:00 -
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Quote: War does not decide who is right, Tsual, but rather who is left.
That was known to me. Just wanted you to remind that the situation might set a fuse on fire. --------------------------------------
Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life. Ritual of the Qua'nadhar. |
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