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Chunicha
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.02.15 03:47:00 -
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For the last few days when I have visited EN24, at the top of it there has been ads for RMT. Riverini, who apparently is running for CSM, has railed against RMTing. How can you justify claiming you are against RMT while simultaneously accepting (real life money) advertising to help out people who are engaging in RMT? How do you feel about this blatant hypocrisy? Im no great fan of anyone running for CSM, but it seems messed up in my eyes to say youre against something and while personally profiting from helping to propagate it. Don't say something out of one side of your mouth and do the opposite once you realize theres some cash involved.
Screenshot from EN24: http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u479/Ummwhattttt/EN24Fraud.png |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9726
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Posted - 2012.02.15 03:50:00 -
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I would imagine that his defense is that EN24 uses whatever ads are available to generate income, and as with late night infomercials the site absolves itself of any statements made by the advertiser. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |
Chunicha
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.02.15 03:52:00 -
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It should be fairly obvious it is an RMT site when he saw the text submitted for the ad. He still took their money. |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
621
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Posted - 2012.02.15 03:55:00 -
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Aren't those google ads?
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2066
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Posted - 2012.02.15 03:57:00 -
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I get RMT ads on eveboard, down with Chribba.
Now, the more serious answer is that website operators don't really control what ads show up on their site through services like AdChoices or Adsense.
Not that I care about riverini, in any case. yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Chunicha
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:04:00 -
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In my humble opinion, a person should be responsible for the content of their website. Its a convenient excuse to say it was someone else who put it there, but ultimately its still your website, and you are still helping propagate RMTing. |
Skye Aurorae
No Bull Ships
144
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:04:00 -
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In defense of the advertising, I also use google adsense and as far as I can tell there's no way to control these ads with any degree of finess. I literally put comments on the page telling people not to click on these ads and still people do such a thing.
So I can honestly stand up and defend Riverini from these accusations.....
However I can find no justifiable defense for the biased, poorly researched content on EN24. If he puts the same level of research into CSM issue as he does into EN24 stories then that would not bode well should he be elected. |
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
29
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:06:00 -
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It's a symptom of running google ads. I see you are already crying about it though so I will bid you good day sir. |
Rythm
True Power Team
11
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:12:00 -
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Johanne D'Arc wrote:It's a symptom of running google ads. I see you are already crying about it though so I will bid you good day sir. Truth to be told the website owner can filter adds shown at his site. For instance eve-ru was getting a fair share of isk selling ads until admins got around to it and fixed the problem. OP just points out to the fact that riverini is a lazy guy and thus will be useless in CSM =) |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
370
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:16:00 -
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CCP runs ads asking us for more money. What is the difference? Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
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Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
150
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:24:00 -
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rodyas wrote:CCP runs ads asking us for more money. What is the difference?
Principally nothing. However the points made are associated with where monies are being distributed to and thus wether CCP are in receipt of such to help with game development.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
370
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:26:00 -
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Ah like money in politics. That is tough. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
Skye Aurorae
No Bull Ships
144
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:40:00 -
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Now looking at this I realise I spoke too fast, this whole thread is actually a parody of a typical EN24 story - highlighting the shoddy biased reporting to be found on that (so called) news site.
Very well played sir! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9731
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:44:00 -
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Chunicha wrote:It should be fairly obvious it is an RMT site when he saw the text submitted for the ad. He still took their money. That does not at all invalidate what I asserted his likely argument to be. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9734
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:47:00 -
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Chunicha wrote:In my humble opinion, a person should be responsible for the content of their website. Its a convenient excuse to say it was someone else who put it there, but ultimately its still your website, and you are still helping propagate RMTing. I can understand your position, but this is literally like holding a television station responsible for late night Oxyclean commercials. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:47:00 -
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Skye Aurorae wrote:Now looking at this I realise I spoke too fast, this whole thread is actually a parody of a typical EN24 story - highlighting the shoddy biased reporting to be found on that (so called) news site.
Very well played sir! I must give a +like to both of you for this amazing turn of events. Most amusing! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9734
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:49:00 -
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I suppose from a consumer standpoint the website operator has the option to turn down the use of Google's advertisements and thereby "vote with their feet" with regards to the unacceptability of those particular ads; but, no one outside of EVE Online gives a damn about RMT in EVE Online so I doubt that would be feasible. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9734
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:49:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Skye Aurorae wrote:Now looking at this I realise I spoke too fast, this whole thread is actually a parody of a typical EN24 story - highlighting the shoddy biased reporting to be found on that (so called) news site.
Very well played sir! I must give a +like to both of you for this amazing turn of events. Most amusing! I for one am shocked and appalled by such blatant manipulation of my sensitive voting sensibilities. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:59:00 -
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To be fair, RMT ads are probably more truthful and accurate than anything else appearing on EN24. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
370
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Posted - 2012.02.15 05:44:00 -
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Didn't we lose sight that the bots are good? And we should try to protect them and enjoy having them with us? Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
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namron 7
1-800-FUBAR
37
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Posted - 2012.02.15 10:59:00 -
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whenever i look on youtube at an Eve video the advert is always for RMT
Watcha gonna do Thanks for the help |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2012.02.15 11:55:00 -
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so how's the smear campaign going? lols. |
Uppsy Daisy
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.02.15 12:10:00 -
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Riverini also ran an article that covered a lot of the technical details around botting in October last year on EN24.
The article was up for a substantial amount of time (a few weeks) until the negative publicity caused Riverini to pull the article.
The article itself can be found reproduced online with a modest googling effort (I will not be posting a link).
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Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
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Posted - 2012.02.15 12:21:00 -
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It's still leagues better than that koogo site. That place is nothing more than a den of thieves and botters. I got a virus just thinking about it. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
623
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Posted - 2012.02.15 17:03:00 -
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Those ads are usually targeted towards the viewer, Google has your searching history (from that computer) and the adds they push out to sites that you visit are usually targeted towards you. So, to the OP, I'd like to ask you: What have you been getting into that Google feels that you're interested in RMTing? |
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