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Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:15:00 - [1] This is a thread for a ship that is to be used not solo but in gangs After much talking amongst people and doing some heavy math and calculations, I have determined that the Comet is not best as a speed ship. It would take 3 Domination Nanofibers alone with 3 Polycarbs to reach 5700m/s with max skills (no implants in calculations). That Comet may be able to do some 1v1... poorly. With all skills to level 5 in EFT I did some testing. When webbed it would reduce it's maximum speed to 512m/s and cause the ship to instapop to any damage whatsoever, due to the sig radius being 319m2 (319! That's bigger than a crusier @ 150m2!). Finally, the 82 dps that it would put out would not be capable of killing much of anything, either with 2 Gallente Navy 125mm Rails w/ faction antimatter and 2 Caldari Navy Standard Missile Launchers with faction missiles. So what does that leave me with? One hell of an assist frigate, armed with lots of dps for a ship its size. Plenty of tank and a solid cap. [Gallente Navy Comet, Gang PVP] Centii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer 'Radical' Damage Control I Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner Micro F-RX Prototype I Capacitor Boost, Cap Booster 100 Domination Warp Scrambler Gallente Navy Light Ion Blaster, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S Gallente Navy Light Ion Blaster, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket Anti-Explosive Pump I Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Capacitor Control Circuit I Hobgoblin II x1 Okay, so let's analyze each module here and do a little bit of examination. Ship Analysis Note: For this analysis, all skills and support skills to use this ship are at level 5, and Halo implants are used. Centii A-Type Small Armor Repairer This deadspace armor rep is the best small armor repairer you can find. Repping 117 armor every 6 seconds in standard mode, and a blistering 128.7 every 3.8 seconds in overload, this rep can successfully tank a rack of medium drones with or without being overloaded. It can tank a rack of light drones as well in standard mode. This module takes quite some time to overheat completely, so you can have it in overload for about 60 seconds to 2 full minutes with good skills. Cost: 100 mil 2x Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Bang for the buck is the value here with faction stabilizers. Doing a pleasant 1.125x damage mod per gun with a tech 2 ROF bonus, this is a good isk/use compromise over a larger Magstab. Doing 125 DPS with tech 2 magstabs is not good enough when you can shell out 130 dps with this variant. Switching up to the more expensive but nicer Brynn's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer would of course be desirable, but adding only an additional .1 dps is not acceptable for the price jump of 100 mil each. Cost: 120 mil for both 'Radical' Damage Control I This was a last-second decision involving fitting issues and necessity for tank. An Internal Force Field Array I gives less overall resistances, but this behemoth of a storyline module gives you an increased 1% bonus to structure resists and a .5% bonus to armor and shield resistances, adding an additional 41 HP to your setup. And everyone knows that when you're in combat, every last little bit of HP counts. With max skills and the Anti-Explosive Pump I rig, your armor will have 65.6% EM, 44.1% Thermic, 44.1% Kinetic and 45.8% Explosive resistance. Cost: 115 mil
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:15:00 - [2] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 07/02/2008 06:15:42 Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner A gem of a module and highly underused, the top-of-its-class Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner delivers a huge boost of speed (204.81%!) in standard mode, and a whopping 307.275% in overload. That means you can crank out just over 1km/sec if in a pinch. Having speed is important, and this module gives you a good boost of speed while preserving the frigate's much-needed signature radius. Keeping the signature low is important on a ship that has to get in close to deliver its damage. Cost: 20 mil Micro F-RX Prototype I Capacitor Boost, Cap Booster 100 The quality Micro F-RX Cap booster is the injector of premium choice when fitting this setup. With the only Micro Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I could find going for 150 million ISK, this is a budget decision that delivers the same quality capacitor at the press of a button. With capacitor not being a large issue on this setup, the cap booster can give a boost of cap when cap falls low due to prolonged engagements. Because overloading modules increases cap use, this effectively assists the overloading so you may max out the stats for a longer period of time. The Cap Booster 100 fits nicely into the Micro F-RX, delivering 2 charges before it has to reload. Throwing the module into overload will knock the run time down to 10.2 seconds, but overheats quickly, so should only be used in extreme situations. The necessity to offline the scrambler will be a very good choice at that point. Cost: 15 mil Domination Warp Scrambler The best of the best, the Domination Warp Scrambler is unmatched in +2 scrambling prowess. Boasting an 11.25km range in standard mode and an unbelievable 13.5km in overload, this nearly doubles the range of a standard tech 1 scrambler, which are used scarcely in play. The Domination Warp Scrambler is chosen over the Domination Warp Disruptor or a comparable module due to the fact that the Comet is not used as a tackle device, but rather as a DPS assist frigate. The Comet does not have the speed to reach a target that could possibly outrun it before the rest of the fleet arrives. Because of this, the Domination Warp Scrambler was chosen for the role of point. Cost: 10 mil
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:16:00 - [3] 2x Gallente Navy Light Ion Blaster, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S The best Ion blaster in the game without the ability to use tech 2 ammo is the Gallente Navy (or Shadow Serpentis) Light Ion Blaster. With a base damage modifier of 3.515625x vs the tech 2 version with only 3.375x, that is a 0.14 difference. That can add up quickly over the course of a fight, especially considering with the Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizers and Hybrid Collision Accelerator I, you are bumped up to an amazing 8.32842x damage modifier in standard mode, and a mind-blowing 9.57768x damage modifier in overload. OUTSTANDING. When overloaded with the rack, the gun can fire for about 30-40 shots before offlining, so use sparingly. The Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S is the undisputed champion for damage in a tech 1 hybrid, so it is fitted to the gun. It is also generally less expensive than the Caldari Navy variant. Cost: 50 mil for both 2x Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket When you compare rockets to missiles, rockets deliver a higher damage per second versus rockets which fire slower but do more damage with one shot. Because this ship is going for the highest DPS output it can, we are using Caldari Navy Rocket Launchers, fitted with Caldari Navy Phalanx Rockets. In standard mode, this little baby expels a rocket every 2.14 seconds, and in overload it can launch a rocket every 1.8 seconds! That's insane! This adds into the mix of already what is a substantial amount of damage an additional 35.9 damage every second. The Caldari Navy Phalanx Rockets are chosen to provide a splash of Explosive damage, which Gallente ships naturally do not provide. Cost: 90 mil for both Anti-Explosive Pump I A ship without a well-rounded tank is susceptible to being destroyed quickly. Having a balanced tank however prevents freaking out when a fleet of Minmatar ships approaches you to unleash EMP ammo at you. This bumps the Explosive resistance up from 22.6% with the 'Radical' Damage Control I to 45.8%. Fantastic! Cost: 18 mil Hybrid Collision Accelerator I DPS, DPS, DPS. Every little bit counts, and with the extra grid to spare, you can crank up the damage an additional 10% on your Comet by fitting this monster rig. Adding an additional 7 DPS to the setup, that means over the course of ten seconds you are doing 70 more damage. Think in volume. Cost: 6 mil Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor is what makes every ship go round. Opting in favor of a rig that does not hamper speed more, the Capacitor Control Circuit I was chosen to help fix a few problems this ship could in practice have with its cap. With everything running in standard mode except for the cap injector, the cap will last 59 seconds. With the Capacitor Control Circuit I, you boost that to 1 minute 7 seconds, which gives you the extra breathing room to maybe scramble to your cap injector for a burst. With the Cap Booster working, however you go from 2 minutes 23 seconds of cap to 4 minutes 14 seconds of cap. That's a pretty significant difference, I think. Cost: 16 mil Hobgoblin II Boasting the highest damage of any drone in its class, the Hobgoblin stands apart from all the other scout drones. Its ability to shred frigates to pieces with its excellent tracking and solid damage of 19.8 DPS rounds this ship out very well. To put it in perspective, this drone gives the ship 10% of its damage. That's a lot of damage for a little drone. Cost: 100k High-grade Halo Implant Set Without speed to protect it, the Comet must rely its small signature to keep damage away. Adding a High-grade Halo set reduces your signature from 42m2 to a teensy 33.31m2. That's nearly as small as a shuttle. Cost: 950 mil
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:18:00 - [4] Final Statistics and the Raw Data FITTING COST: 544.1 mil SHIP COST: 30 mil IMPLANT COST: 950 mil TOTAL: 1,524,100,000.00 ISK A solid ship with good stats, the Assault Comet is a wonderful ship that can do plenty of damage in a gang and take a fair beating. Though spendy, this ship should last any pilot a great while who treats it well. :) And the best part is, I own this ship :) _________________ Burn. Devs, ISD and GMs mod my sig for cake! \o/ CCP Navigator was here and left some green text and bars _____________ _____________
PathetiQ Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:24:00 - [5] Edited by: PathetiQ on 07/02/2008 06:24:16 Can i have your stuff? ::Killing Space Monkey Since 1969::
Merin Ryskin FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:27:00 - [6] Repeat after me: EBAY IS BAD. Assuming you actually make this insane setup in-game instead of just dreaming about it in EFT, you are spending 560 million ISK + 950 million for the implants. And what do you get? A ship that's less effective than an assault frigate, arguably the most underpowered ship class in the game. So essentially, you will die very quickly, and you will make someone very happy when they open your wreck. Though I have to admit, you do get some points for the priceless humor of using the words "bang for the buck" to describe paying 115 million ISK more to add a staggering 5 dps to this disaster of a setup.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:33:00 - [7] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 07/02/2008 06:33:45 Originally by: Merin Ryskin Repeat after me: EBAY IS BAD. Assuming you actually make this insane setup in-game instead of just dreaming about it in EFT, you are spending 560 million ISK + 950 million for the implants. And what do you get? A ship that's less effective than an assault frigate, arguably the most underpowered ship class in the game. So essentially, you will die very quickly, and you will make someone very happy when they open your wreck. Though I have to admit, you do get some points for the priceless humor of using the words "bang for the buck" to describe paying 115 million ISK more to add a staggering 5 dps to this disaster of a setup. I own the ship, I said that at the end of the thread. I made this ship out of my own isk, most of which was received by grinding rats for DAYS to get the ISK to fund it. Repeat after me: Patience and perseverance pays off. _________________ Burn. Devs, ISD and GMs mod my sig for cake! \o/ CCP Navigator was here and left some green text and bars _____________ _____________
Merin Ryskin FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:36:00 - [8] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Merin Ryskin Repeat after me: EBAY IS BAD. Assuming you actually make this insane setup in-game instead of just dreaming about it in EFT, you are spending 560 million ISK + 950 million for the implants. And what do you get? A ship that's less effective than an assault frigate, arguably the most underpowered ship class in the game. So essentially, you will die very quickly, and you will make someone very happy when they open your wreck. Though I have to admit, you do get some points for the priceless humor of using the words "bang for the buck" to describe paying 115 million ISK more to add a staggering 5 dps to this disaster of a setup. I own the ship, I said that at the end of the thread. Fine. Then you: 1) Buy ISK on ebay, substituting your parents' credit card for actual skill and knowledge and/or 2) Are an utter moron. Like I said... using the term "bang for the buck" to describe spending 115 million ISK to get 5 dps on a ship that will insta-pop to any serious opponent just defines beautiful irony. But just to be constructive, allow me to present MY "bang for the buck" setup that completely trashes yours in every area. By the way, even with the two faction modules, mine still costs around 50-60 million, meaning for every one of your insane setups, I can buy TEN of mine. I think I will win. http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6821/ebayftlnh5.jpg
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:44:00 - [9] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Fine. Then you: 1) Buy ISK on ebay, substituting your parents' credit card for actual skill and knowledge and/or 2) Are an utter moron. Like I said... using the term "bang for the buck" to describe spending 115 million ISK to get 5 dps on a ship that will insta-pop to any serious opponent just defines beautiful irony. But just to be constructive, allow me to present MY "bang for the buck" setup that completely trashes yours in every area. By the way, even with the two faction modules, mine still costs around 50-60 million, meaning for every one of your insane setups, I can buy TEN of mine. I think I will win. http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6821/ebayftlnh5.jpg First of all, I moved out of my parent's house a lonnnnng time ago. Second, you don't seem to read the part I've plastered all over the thread that says "NOT FOR 1v1 USE" You must be: 1) Illiterate or 2) Unable to comprehend how accomplishing a goal by working for it can be rewarding. Sheesh. Read the thread again. This time, actually read it. _________________ Burn. Devs, ISD and GMs mod my sig for cake! \o/ CCP Navigator was here and left some green text and bars _____________ _____________
Merin Ryskin FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:58:00 - [10] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 07/02/2008 06:58:55 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Second, you don't seem to read the part I've plastered all over the thread that says "NOT FOR 1v1 USE" Yes, I know, your idea of a good PvP fight is going 5v1 against a mining cruiser. But in a real fight, you're right, you won't be going 1v1... you'll be going 1vX, where X is the number of ships in their gang with anti-frigate weapons. Flying a faction ship of any kind is the easiest way to get yourself called primiary, unless you're flying with people with even more obscenely expensive setups. Quote: 2) Unable to comprehend how accomplishing a goal by working for it can be rewarding. Well, if "throwing away a billion ISK for a ship that's worse than an assault frigate" is your rewarding goal, you just prove my point about insanity. Quote: Sheesh. Read the thread again. This time, actually read it. And just to point out your fallacy of "being better than me," that ship you posted that is supposed to be better than mine isn't a Gallente Navy Comet. Yes, I know it's not a Gallente Navy Comet. It does, however, out-perform your 600 million is obscenity in every way, for less than 1/10th of the cost. You should take that as a hint.

Philopoemen Locke Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:59:00 - [11] What with all of the hate in this thread? If you have the isk and can really trick the ship out and have fun flying it why not. Its not a solo ship, and lacking a mwd I thought the rational behind it was pretty good. Faction fit with good skills it doesn't seem to have the speed the properly nano and at that speed it would be relegated to tackling. Once you add in the effects of the halos and considering that it will be able to run everything for the duration of the fight, its still not going to be fun to track and hit while webbed. Precision lights, and a swarm of t2 lights are still gonna ruin its day. To the comments on the amount of isk spent on the ship, its a faction frig, had the OP posted a faction bs setup with this kind of isk spent on it no one would complain. So if you have the isk to burn and don't mind losing it why not go out in style and have some fun. And even if its preformance isn't up to a taranis or other close range setups I don't think the OP wants to have the most fun while flying a kinda rarish ship.
Merin Ryskin FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Philopoemen Locke Its not a solo ship, and lacking a mwd I thought the rational behind it was pretty good. Faction fit with good skills it doesn't seem to have the speed the properly nano and at that speed it would be relegated to tackling. Yes, and being relegated to tackling is exactly why this setup is so stupid. Tackler ships (other than 20-30km range inties) are essentially suicide ships, by getting in that close in a small fragile ship, your death is just a question of when, not if. So it's incredibly stupid to put half a billion ISK in mods on a ship that's going to die the moment a real pvp opponent looks at it too hard. It gets even worse when you realize just how far into diminishing returns this setup is. I'm not exaggerating when I say he's paying 115 million isk to buy 5 (yes, FIVE) dps more. That's twice the cost of the overpriced Enyo I posted. Quote: Once you add in the effects of the halos and considering that it will be able to run everything for the duration of the fight, its still not going to be fun to track and hit while webbed. Precision lights, and a swarm of t2 lights are still gonna ruin its day. Guess what everyone brings to PvP fights... a swarm of Warrior IIs. And with only an AB, even that sig radius isn't going to save him if he gets webbed. Quote: To the comments on the amount of isk spent on the ship, its a faction frig, had the OP posted a faction bs setup with this kind of isk spent on it no one would complain. So if you have the isk to burn and don't mind losing it why not go out in style and have some fun. Yes, because 600 million ISK in modules on a faction BS actually makes a substantial difference. You get a lot more than 5 more dps and a couple seconds of extra life out of it. It's still not cost effective, but at least it's not utterly insane.\
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:07:00 - [13] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 07/02/2008 07:07:39 Originally by: Merin Ryskin Yes, I know, your idea of a good PvP fight is going 5v1 against a mining cruiser. But in a real fight, you're right, you won't be going 1v1... you'll be going 1vX, where X is the number of ships in their gang with anti-frigate weapons. Flying a faction ship of any kind is the easiest way to get yourself called primiary, unless you're flying with people with even more obscenely expensive setups. You have a distorted sense of reality. PVP means player versus player. I PVP, not PVC, which stands for Player versus Carebear. You must do it a lot of you bring it up so much. Same about the whole eBay thing. Buying money to support your habit is bad. Also, when I go out on gang operations, I enjoy flying alongside a complement of other faction frigates. With so many faction frigates to be called "primary" and all of us doing a great job at what we do, we should be able to assist each other quick enough that there are no losses. Got involved with a Thorax the other day. He's in a pirate corp and flashy red. He ran for the gate, but I scrammed him and we had a Firetail jump in and web him. The Thorax engaged me. By the time the other 3 people jumped into local, I already had him to about 10% armor, and he had me to around 50% armor. At the end of the fight, I was at 20% armor and he was dead. 2008.02.05 10:31:00 Victim: XXXXXXXXXXX Alliance: NONE Corp: XXXXXXXXXXX Destroyed: Thorax System: Eugales Security: 0.4 Damage Taken: 6719 Involved parties: Name: Siigari Kitawa Security: -1.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: The Aduro Protocol Ship: Gallente Navy Comet Weapon: Gallente Navy Comet Damage Done: 4828 That's just one example of how insanity can meet fun. Let me tell you, it's a rush. Originally by: Merin Ryskin Yes, I know it's not a Gallente Navy Comet. It does, however, out-perform your 600 million is obscenity in every way, for less than 1/10th of the cost. You should take that as a hint. What, that you don't know how to properly outfit and fly a Gallente Navy Comet so you have to change the discussion to a ship that is NOT a Comet that you can succeed in solo pvp with? Hint duly noted. _________________ Burn. Devs, ISD and GMs mod my sig for cake! \o/ CCP Navigator was here and left some green text and bars _____________ _____________
Merin Ryskin FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:19:00 - [14] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 07/02/2008 07:22:04 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa You have a distorted sense of reality. PVP means player versus player. I PVP, not PVC, which stands for Player versus Carebear. You must do it a lot of you bring it up so much. Same about the whole eBay thing. Buying money to support your habit is bad. Hey, don't complain about that kill, I'm not the one who bragged about it in the other thread. I think it would be pretty hard to find a clearer example of "PvC" than that fight. Quote: Also, when I go out on gang operations, I enjoy flying alongside a complement of other faction frigates. With so many faction frigates to be called "primary" and all of us doing a great job at what we do, we should be able to assist each other quick enough that there are no losses. Maybe if all you do is blob weak ships, you won't have losses. But the moment you run into serious opposition or equal numbers, you will die incredibly fast. If you're very lucky, they won't be able to scramble all of you, and most of you will be able to run away screaming in terror. Quote: Got involved with a Thorax the other day. He's in a pirate corp and flashy red. He ran for the gate, but I scrammed him and we had a Firetail jump in and web him. The Thorax engaged me. By the time the other 3 people jumped into local, I already had him to about 10% armor, and he had me to around 50% armor. At the end of the fight, I was at 20% armor and he was dead. Congratulations... with a 2v1 advantage you killed a ship worth less than 5% of your abomination. Too bad you could've done the job just as well with a pair of Rifters, with far less ISK invested. Just because you can kill a lower-skilled player in a bigger ship doesn't make your idea a good one. Quote: What, that you don't know how to properly outfit and fly a Gallente Navy Comet so you have to change the discussion to a ship that is NOT a Comet that you can succeed in solo pvp with? Hint duly noted. No, the point is the Gallente Navy Comet is a terrible ship to begin with, and putting 500 million ISK in modules on it doesn't make it any better. Obviously I can't make a better Comet setup, because you don't consider cost-effectiveness a virtue. I could do 95% of what your setup can with a plain T2 fit (for 10% of the cost), but you'd just complain that I don't get that last 5%. And yes, I know how to make stupidly overpriced faction frigates. I have a Navy Hookbill in my hangar that's worth about 3-400 million ISK (at least it was when I built the thing). But unlike you, I'm not insane enough to think that it's more than a pretty hangar ornament to occasionally fly in friendly duels with people I trust. For PvP, I concede the inevitable and fly a Harpy (if I have any interest in a frigate at all).
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:21:00 - [15] do you tell me where you live?
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:28:00 - [16] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 07/02/2008 07:30:14 Originally by: Merin Ryskin No, the point is the Gallente Navy Comet is a terrible ship to begin with, and putting 500 million ISK in modules on it doesn't make it any better. Obviously I can't make a better Comet setup, because you don't consider cost-effectiveness a virtue. I could do 95% of what your setup can with a plain T2 fit (for 10% of the cost), but you'd just complain that I don't get that last 5%. Well isn't it cool then that I can spend the time to earn the money to buy a ship that I like? I don't care if people think the Comet sucks or what not. I'm tired of "formula" setups and FOTM and all this bullcrap "if you don't fly nano then you die" and stuff. Simply, this ship is a ton of fun. Also, when I say I am at 20% armor, you can believe I was ***ting myself... which raised the adrenaline making it more fun. There is no doubt in my mind that I could make this setup into one hell of say, an Ishkur. But then it wouldn't be a Comet. There is something that has always attracted me to faction ships of all sorts... I think it's that they're UNDERUSED. I have always been waving my pom-poms for the little guy, and in this case the Comet gets some much-needed love. Speed fit or not, this ship is a venerable PVP frigate. And, if you aren't going to PVP with it, take it through a couple level 2 complexes for a stroll and have some fun putting it to the test with lots of ships shooting at you. Versatility is one of my strong points, as is patience. In one of our large gangs, we have taken down battleships before with frigates. It's doable, you know it is. So doing it in faction frigates makes it that much more fun. You get responses in local like "You guys are nuts" and "is this faction frigate night?" and all sorts of stuff. It's a nice way to get a little humor and fun into a game where every other ship is flown like it was produced on a factory line with fittings. THAT is boring, and why I would imagine some people leave the game. Variety is the spice of life, and I'm taking my variety into EVE. Stop trolling my thread. You haven't posted a single prop at all. This is not a discussion about how "This other ship I fly" could be better than my Comet. It a discussion thread about taking an underused ship and making it into a ship that can actually be worth something. I don't care if you can do 1000 DPS in a frigate, unless it is a Comet. Because this is a discussion thread ABOUT COMETS. You yourself said it. There's really no reasonably better fit for this style of Comet. I have found it, fitted it in-game, flown it and LOVE IT. So unless you have some ideas to make this ship* better, STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD. I'm not going to be responding to any more of your drivel. So in case you do anyway and I don't respond, you know why. _________________ Burn. Devs, ISD and GMs mod my sig for cake! \o/ CCP Navigator was here and left some green text and bars _____________ _____________
Hrin Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:30:00 - [17] I got a T1 fit cruiser that would like to meet your frigate.
Merin Ryskin FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:41:00 - [18] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 07/02/2008 07:42:50 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa You yourself said it. There's really no reasonably better fit for this style of Comet. I have found it, fitted it in-game, flown it and LOVE IT. So unless you have some ideas to make this ship better, STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD. No, I said there's no setup that you would accept. Big difference there. There is very definitely a more reasonable fit for the ship, it's called "all T2", and it does 95% of what your abomination does but for the same price I can buy ten more of them to keep in my hangar as spares. The only problem is you don't know the meaning of "cost effectiveness", and will gladly pay twice the price of a fully-fitted T2 Comet to get 5 more dps out of the ship. This is why you are insane. Flying a faction frigate gang is expensive, but at least not obscenely so. Dumping half the cost of a carrier into a T1 frigate is just utterly insane.
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:47:00 - [19] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 07/02/2008 07:53:19 Where does that guy fly? Someone needs to suicide his frig, seriously ;) Please come to the Citadel region with your faction frig gang sometime, I have a flashy red Rupture which you can tackle at gates if you'd like to ;) Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail mods@ccpgames.com ~Saint
Phoenicia Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:04:00 - [20] People come to these forums looking for setups they are actually willing to afford on ships they are actually willing to fly. I usually try not to generalize across all pilots, but in this case I think it's safe to say that NO ONE will fly a Gallente Navy Comet with a fitting that expensive. Thus, you will only get flames and negative comments. Especially because there is simply no effectiveness that cannot be achieved for a tenth or less of that price. You're posting on a public forum, submitting your ship and setup to the opinion of the community, and then you say you only want to hear from people who like your setup. So you have a choice between a thread like this- where everyone tells you what a completely ludicrous idea this is, or a thread that gets zero response. Your call.

Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Phoenicia People come to these forums looking for setups they are actually willing to afford on ships they are actually willing to fly. I usually try not to generalize across all pilots, but in this case I think it's safe to say that NO ONE will fly a Gallente Navy Comet with a fitting that expensive. Thus, you will only get flames and negative comments. Especially because there is simply no effectiveness that cannot be achieved for a tenth or less of that price. You're posting on a public forum, submitting your ship and setup to the opinion of the community, and then you say you only want to hear from people who like your setup. So you have a choice between a thread like this- where everyone tells you what a completely ludicrous idea this is, or a thread that gets zero response. Your call. Well, if you take the halos off the ship, you remove 1 bil of the price. A faction frigate with 500 mil in fittings isn't so bad. You constantly hear people beating the forums saying "If you're gonna fit a faction ship fit it correctly dammit" et al. Sure, I realize this is a rare ship to fly in PVP even, but I am trying to create a little noise that even if you spend a little time with it, you can create a very impressive faction ship. This ship started out with just some named and tech 2 fittings (the named stuff came into play due to grid/cpu issues). Then I said "let's make it better" and it was very slowly, module by module and one day a time converted into what it now is. Then I realized I needed some implants to protect the silly thing, so I got some. There is plenty in this thread to talk about. You can reverse engineer the ship to get a really good tech 1/tech 2 setup that does similar things, and this is just a format that I created that I thought would be fun to make. I appreciate your post because rather than outright flaming, you bring a different subject to the table. The fact that ISK is indeed precious, and you put it where you want it. I put my ISK on a faction ship. Who cares if it's a frigate, cruiser or battleship? I have a Navy Vexor with faction fittings that values around 750 mil. Am I still "an EBAYER" or an "UBER NOOB" thinking it'll be amazing? No. I fit it because it works and because I have fun. If people want to discuss, cool. If people don't, that's fine with me too. As I said, I am just presenting a template with really cool modules. _________________ Burn. Devs, ISD and GMs mod my sig for cake! \o/ CCP Navigator was here and left some green text and bars _____________ _____________
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:28:00 - [22] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Merin Ryskin Repeat after me: EBAY IS BAD. Assuming you actually make this insane setup in-game instead of just dreaming about it in EFT, you are spending 560 million ISK + 950 million for the implants. And what do you get? A ship that's less effective than an assault frigate, arguably the most underpowered ship class in the game. So essentially, you will die very quickly, and you will make someone very happy when they open your wreck. Though I have to admit, you do get some points for the priceless humor of using the words "bang for the buck" to describe paying 115 million ISK more to add a staggering 5 dps to this disaster of a setup. I own the ship, I said that at the end of the thread. Fine. Then you: 1) Buy ISK on ebay, substituting your parents' credit card for actual skill and knowledge and/or 2) Are an utter moron. Like I said... using the term "bang for the buck" to describe spending 115 million ISK to get 5 dps on a ship that will insta-pop to any serious opponent just defines beautiful irony. But just to be constructive, allow me to present MY "bang for the buck" setup that completely trashes yours in every area. By the way, even with the two faction modules, mine still costs around 50-60 million, meaning for every one of your insane setups, I can buy TEN of mine. I think I will win. http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6821/ebayftlnh5.jpg No reason for name calling,though i would NEVER spend that much on said ship its his/her choice and theres a difference between constructive critism and trolling. I must say to your statement of this person buying money off ebay proof or stfu. This is what happens when a kestrel with thermal missiles declares war on earth
the member Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:34:00 - [23] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa rockets deliver a higher damage per second versus rockets which fire slower but do more damage with one shot. sonofa.... didn't know that. now i need to go back and swap my fittings. /me makes a note: replace rocket launcher with a.... rocket launcher. check. Quote: "You're obviously from France." -- Intel CEO Paul Ottelini
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:38:00 - [24] Originally by: the member Originally by: Siigari Kitawa rockets deliver a higher damage per second versus rockets which fire slower but do more damage with one shot. sonofa.... didn't know that. now i need to go back and swap my fittings. /me makes a note: replace rocket launcher with a.... rocket launcher. check. lol fixed, thanks for catching that. _________________ Burn. Devs, ISD and GMs mod my sig for cake! \o/ CCP Navigator was here and left some green text and bars _____________ _____________
Panthothen principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:47:00 - [25] Siigari, you should take into consideration that your are spending the same amount of isk as people spend on capital ships on a ship that can be outperformed by oh so many cheap ships. This will make people angry, if you see a looney burning money on the street youd get angry at him too if you yourself had financial trouble. You are welcome to take on my Taranis any day with those fittings btw
Phoenicia Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:52:00 - [26] Originally by: Panthothen This will make people angry, if you see a looney burning money on the street youd get angry at him too if you yourself had financial trouble. A better analogy would be a guy in a Lamborghini Murcielago driving to a soup kitchen and telling the local hobos "HEY LOOK AT MY NEW CAR EVERYBODY! Isn't it shiny and fast? Yea, cost a pretty penny but eh, with hard work you can afford a sweet ride like this!"
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Panthothen Siigari, you should take into consideration that your are spending the same amount of isk as people spend on capital ships on a ship that can be outperformed by oh so many cheap ships. This will make people angry, if you see a looney burning money on the street youd get angry at him too if you yourself had financial trouble. You are welcome to take on my Taranis any day with those fittings btw So... are you suggesting... [Gallente Navy Comet, CeptorVersion] Dark Blood Small Armor Repairer Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 100 J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I 75mm Gatling Rail II, Spike S 75mm Gatling Rail II, Spike S 'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile 'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile Polycarbon Engine Housing I Polycarbon Engine Housing I Ancillary Current Router I Hobgoblin II x1 Would make people happier? _________________ Burn. Devs, ISD and GMs mod my sig for cake! \o/ CCP Navigator was here and left some green text and bars _____________ _____________
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Oyster Colors	Posted - 2008.02.07 09:03:00 - [28] Well, the setup in the OP might be expensive, even way too expensive for the performance you get, but what people always fail to see it these things are for fun and showoff mainly. My personal dream faction frigate is the Firetail, fitted as interceptor, with a complete republic fleet set except for a cap booster II. Now I don't own one, and probably won't in the near future since a real interceptor performs better for a lot less isk invested, but I like the idea and if I ever have some isk to burn this is one of the things I'll do. Now if someone even takes such a ship out in a PvP gang, props to him, it's a beautiful thing to see even if you get killed by it.
Spaced Skunk 9omH	Posted - 2008.02.07 09:08:00 - [29] If he/she loses it, then he/she loses it. Let them have thier fun. IMO though, you should fit a dramiel To Spawny, a great guy, a great laugh. Rest in peace buddy.
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.02.07 09:15:00 - [30] I'm glad that you no longer call it the perfect setup since the FR-X booster lacks the ability to inject cap at the same rate as the electrocemichal. Even tho you think that you wouldn't need it it's still a limitation.



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