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RoSsCs
Caldari
Jupiter Mining Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:17:00 -
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Quantum of Solace
Meet the Family
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RoSsCs
Caldari
Jupiter Mining Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:17:00 -
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Quantum of Solace
Meet the Family
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Bob Stuart
Federation Fleet
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:21:00 -
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Well, how are people to make crude sexual puns with that goofy title?
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Bob Stuart
Federation Fleet
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:21:00 -
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Well, how are people to make crude sexual puns with that goofy title?
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Dirtee Girl
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:08:00 -
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most of the joy in bond films is the action and women with childishly inuendo laden names catering to the sad male purient sense of humour .... it's so sad .
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
The Space Bastards
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:28:00 -
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Its going to be brilliant... the last one was epic.. just epic 
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:34:00 -
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A small piece of comfort ?
A portion of consolation ?
Weird title... quite far off the beaten path... oh well, I liked the last one better than most other 20 before, so I guess the wannabe-dorky name won't matter all that much if the lead's performance stays top-notch.
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 24/01/2008 17:38:39
Originally by: Dirtee Girl
most of the joy in bond films is the action and women with childishly inuendo laden names catering to the sad male purient sense of humour .... it's so sad .
im a big james bond fan. youre absolutely right.
but once i understood that, i could enjoy it even more.
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the things you described arent even the worse things you could say about JB.
but james bond still works. and is great fun to watch. with or without brain usage.
sure there are exceptions like "tomorrow never dies" or "the world is not enough" or everything with timothy dalton.
also, lol @ george lazenby
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Suze'Rain
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.24 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
A small piece of comfort ?
A portion of consolation ?
Weird title... quite far off the beaten path... oh well, I liked the last one better than most other 20 before, so I guess the wannabe-dorky name won't matter all that much if the lead's performance stays top-notch.
actually, the name is from one of the short stories Ian Fleming wrote, so it's no dorkier than Living Daylights, Octo*****, or the likes which were from other short stories
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Yoshimako
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Posted - 2008.01.24 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtee Girl
most of the joy in bond films is the action and women with childishly inuendo laden names catering to the sad male purient sense of humour .... it's so sad .
You are obviously some kind of bitter feminist land-beast.
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Xen Gin
The Dragoons
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Posted - 2008.01.24 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bob Stuart
Well, how are people to make crude sexual puns with that goofy title?
I'll Quantum her Solace!
Was pretty easy.
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Cybarite
Gallente
Aristotle Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.24 23:00:00 -
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I have to say that they need to recast M, and then kill whoever is responsible for M's expanded roll in the movies. Seriously M isn't supposed to be bond's close personal friend and mentor and all serious, M is the stogy out of touch aristocrat who briefs bond and then acts shocked when his surveillance gear catches bond shagging the latest bond girl.
They should have cast another one of the montey python guys as M like they did putting cleese as Q, that group actually understands subtle comedy, and they're probably bond fans.
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2008.01.25 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cybarite
I have to say that they need to recast M, and then kill whoever is responsible for M's expanded roll in the movies. Seriously M isn't supposed to be bond's close personal friend and mentor and all serious, M is the stogy out of touch aristocrat who briefs bond and then acts shocked when his surveillance gear catches bond shagging the latest bond girl.
They should have cast another one of the montey python guys as M like they did putting cleese as Q, that group actually understands subtle comedy, and they're probably bond fans.
you know you DO make an awful lot of sense here.
i said about the same things about Q but i never thought about M...
but now that youve mentioned it, its becoming painful obvious. like a rabid monkey screwing my skull through my eye.
"subtle" probably is the important part here.
imho comedy at its best when you have to ask yourself if that funny moment was intentional...
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.25 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtee Girl
most of the joy in bond films is the action and women with childishly inuendo laden names catering to the sad male purient sense of humour .... it's so sad .
The Bond films are comic book action. Watch them on that level and they're hugely enjoyable. On NO account should they be taken seriously.
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Cybarite
Gallente
Aristotle Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.25 01:26:00 -
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for me it boils down to the tone the character adds to the film, if you look at the orriginal bond films you have a number of elements:
Bond: Sexy, Debonair, Dangerous, he's the one setting the tone and making things happen.
Fem fatal: Sexy, Dangerous, maybe kinky, usually the first one bond gets in the sack, dangerous but no match for bond himself, because bond unlike most men is able to override the brain in his pants.
M: Bond's boss, he calls the shots from the background, he trusts bond to get the job done, but he doesn't really know what that entails, he seems to think bond would be impressed by visiting the country club or going golfing when at the end of a mission all bond wants to do is shack up with his latest hotty.
Q: Mad scientist/ kindly old gent, Q cares about his machines, and he likes bond well enough to hand them over even though he knows they're going to get smashed, disapproves outwardly but he builds stuff principally to keep bond and other agents alive.
Moneypenny: not really so much a love interest as a source of tension, and occasional comic relief.
Bondgirl: the primary love interest, she's sexy, she's available or becomes so, she's usually reluctant, and alot of the time she's a 'bad' girl or attached to bonds nemesis. She's the conquest that Bond's after and he'll get her in the end, that's just part of his mystique.
The villain: Every hero's gotta have a villain, this guy is apperently a threat to world peace and has to be killed, thankfully we have bond for a hatchet man.
If you look, the element that's always out of place in all the latest bond movies (from the time brosnan took the roll) it's always M, some people say brosnan's not good enough for the roll, honestly he plays it closer to Connery than Moore ever did, he's just not as good at looking sly and witty. But Dench as M just doesn't work, she's a great actor, but demanding screen time and trying to expand M's character kills the classic dynamic of a bond movie, I like new things, but when I'm watching james bond, I want to see a certain kind of thing.
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2008.01.25 02:23:00 -
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Edited by: Last Wolf on 25/01/2008 02:24:43
Edited by: Last Wolf on 25/01/2008 02:23:42
I sure hope this is better than Casino Royal... I hated it, And I've never hated a bond film.
No evil plot to rule the world, Or destroy it, Or cause massive chaos with a stock market crash, Or an assassination of a political leader..... Noooo He just had to win a poker match so some feminine psycho couldn't pay off his debts to a few terrorists.
Not to mention the absolutely ******** hour long love story after the poker game was over.
Hmm, R3tard3d is censored? Now that is ***
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.01.25 08:50:00 -
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Classic Bond for me was Live And Let Die. That's the sort of tongue in cheek humerous Bond I like.
Villains should be proper mad "I'm going to take over the world Bond, but before I do it and kill you, I'm going to explain precicesly how!".
Villains' sidekicks should be like Jaws (no, not the shark) or Oddjob.
If I want a more serious "hard man" secret agent, I'll watch the Bourne Trilogy.
The last Bond film was OK, but not really Bond. Could have been any secret agent spy type thing really. They could have chopped 20 minutes off the end with no ill effect either. It went on a bit, after the plot was basically done and dusted.
I predict this next one will be a bombing stinker, on title alone.
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corporal hicks
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.25 10:39:00 -
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Bond 22 sounds better tbh...quantum of solace..sounds like a bad fantasy movie, maybe Hawk the slayer can be the bad guy.
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Thuranni
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.25 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtee Girl
most of the joy in bond films is the action and women with childishly inuendo laden names catering to the sad male purient sense of humour .... it's so sad .
Does anyone else see the irony in this being posted by someone who calls himself Dirtee Girl on the internet?
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtee Girl
most of the joy in bond films is the action and women with childishly inuendo laden names catering to the sad male purient sense of humour .... it's so sad .
You almost managed to make that sound like criticism.
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Orgos Khenn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.25 12:11:00 -
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It's nice to see that they aren't abandoning Casino Royale's attempt to make Bond movies into PROPER movies, rather than just half-comedy half-action crap. Now Bond is a proper character and the plot is a proper plot. That's always nice to see.
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Mary Makepeace
Caldari
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.01.25 13:27:00 -
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i am so looking forward to this one.
there does seem to be two kinds of Bond fans, those that like it silly and those that like it serious. i am in the serious camp.
i loved the beginning of he new casino royal, the taking of a persons life is something that should never be taken lightly, and Bonds first kill is a hard passionate battle, but his second is a cold passionless killer. you see the formation character and the layers that build the character to be someone, not just an action hero but a cold blooded murderer in the employ of the state.
Undermining his empathy was a theme in the books as well, every time he started to have some kind of emotional connection it was shattered, Bond as a man is essentially a tragedy as he will never have a release of the pain within himself and will only ever tread the path of death and destruction.
The last few Pierce Brosnan films didn't even have some the high farce that came with earlier films and we were seeing such a high level of product placement that it was hard to see the boobies for the watches, cars and motorbikes.
I like the way they are taking things with Daniel Craig.
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Cybarite
Gallente
Aristotle Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.25 17:13:00 -
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I'm in neither camp really, I like the dynamic of the original bond films with Connery, they struck the right balance between comic relief and action film. As for adding serious plot and making the characters have more depth, no thats not what I'm here for, I go watch movies like schindler's list when I want to be serious, I watch bond when I want to be amused and entertained. Making James Bond more angsty is the worst possible angle, it's hinted at in some of the movies that he's got dark things in his past, but the old directors realized what made him popular and left it at hints.
For me the epitome of bond movies were the old Connery ones, DR. No, Diamonds Are Forever, Thunderball. In those old one's bond usually relies on his wits to get out of bad situation not like the later movies, where there's always a gadget for him to use. He's alot grittier too, (they've started going back to that, which is good) in Diamonds are forever he drowns one of Blowfeld's doubles in a vat of boiling mud.
The point is I watch bond movies for light entertainment and sly humor, not to listen to emo dialog and learn how bond really hurts on the inside and fills the void with one woman after another. That was there all along, the directors just had the good sense to leave it where it was and not drag it's ugly countenance out into the open.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.01.25 18:24:00 -
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Bond... Bond? Weren't they all wiped out by a meteor?
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Dirtee Girl
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.25 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Thuranni
Originally by: Dirtee Girl
most of the joy in bond films is the action and women with childishly inuendo laden names catering to the sad male purient sense of humour .... it's so sad .
Does anyone else see the irony in this being posted by someone who calls himself Dirtee Girl on the internet?
:p almost there ... keep trying
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2008.01.25 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cybarite
I'm in neither camp really, I like the dynamic of the original bond films with Connery, they struck the right balance between comic relief and action film. As for adding serious plot and making the characters have more depth, no thats not what I'm here for, I go watch movies like schindler's list when I want to be serious, I watch bond when I want to be amused and entertained. Making James Bond more angsty is the worst possible angle, it's hinted at in some of the movies that he's got dark things in his past, but the old directors realized what made him popular and left it at hints.
For me the epitome of bond movies were the old Connery ones, DR. No, Diamonds Are Forever, Thunderball. In those old one's bond usually relies on his wits to get out of bad situation not like the later movies, where there's always a gadget for him to use. He's alot grittier too, (they've started going back to that, which is good) in Diamonds are forever he drowns one of Blowfeld's doubles in a vat of boiling mud.
The point is I watch bond movies for light entertainment and sly humor, not to listen to emo dialog and learn how bond really hurts on the inside and fills the void with one woman after another. That was there all along, the directors just had the good sense to leave it where it was and not drag it's ugly countenance out into the open.
You just said how I feel. Connery was by far the best bond ever.
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