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Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:11:00 - [1] Operation Fedaykin û KBP System. 11-12 Jan 2008. Situation. Over Christmas KBP system (Headquarters of the CVA ôholderö/ ôpetö Alliance Sev3rance which had been under siege by the combined forces of Star Fraction and the UshraÆkhan) became the focus of a change of strategy. After many months of conventional warfare and various attacks on the Cyno Jammer array operated by Sev3rance with Battleship Heavy groups, the allied freedom-fighters chose to disable the Cyno Jammer indirectly by establishing a rival sovereignty-claiming large tower network to interrupt the Sev3rance claim and reset their meta-sovereignty value (reduced from the ô3ö the cyno jammer no longer functions). The Tower deployment was successful and with the Sev3rance Cyno Jammer neutralised; SF, UshraÆkhan, Eternal Rapture and other allies brought capital ships directly into KBP to continue the campaign and assemble sufficient Dreadnaught hulls to threaten the Sev3rance large POS network directly in order to force military confrontation (Sev3rance conventional forces already having been badly mauled already by almost 2 months of continuous warfare). This was almost the end for Sev3rance. The pressure was growing, their space fleet largely impotent and helpless with the CVA fleet generally POSÆed and docked from the threat of Triumvirate and morale inside the CVA holder alliance was diminished and threadbare. (Many alliance defections occurred, individuals, whole corps, while general numbers of active pilots suffered badly.) External factors however would ultimately determine the outcome of this strategy. The Triumvirate offensive in Providence was abruptly curtailed following the intervention of IAC and Goonswarm forces in their favour at the critical moments of the Inflatable House siege and almost overnight CVA was left with nothing else in Providence to distract their focus. In the ordinary state of affairs its important to note that CVA generally outnumbers SF/UshraÆkhan and allies by a ratio of 10-1 on paper, but generally 2-3x1 in fleet battles. CVA can count on a primetime levy from their supporters in Providence from Paxton, CSA, Slyph, Sev3rance and (if its really important) from IAC and their friends of around 150-200 conventional ships, and around 30 capital ship hulls (2 Motherships). Conversely SF/UK led forces tend to max at around 60-70 conventional ships, and around a dozen capital ships with a pair of Motherships. The reality is we cannot win a conventional fleet battle against the fully mustered Providence levies. We know this. CVA knows this û it underpins and empathises the essentially asymmetrical nature of the war in Providence. We can make ground when the CVA is otherwise distracted or threatened, we can score victories in skirmish and limited engagements and we can achieve objectives with rapid deployment and hit and run tactics. ItÆs the nature of Eve combat that while you can make up a certain level of numerical disadvantage with superior tactics and manoeuvre you are not going to dislodge a sitting territorial power while outnumbered 3-1 against. You can win every skirmish fight in space. But when it comes down to POS reinforcement battles itÆs a numbers game end of the day. This is fact, this is reality, and itÆs a reality all anti CVA forces in Providence live with daily. So with Triumvirate gone from Providence it had become increasingly obvious that the UshraÆkhan sovereignty challenge through deployed towers was a tactic living on borrowed time. CVA had pulled out all the stops to outnumber the Triumvitate conventional and capital fleets in their own home system in defence of the Inflatable House outpost, and had spent weeks in disciplined avoidance of overt capital ship engagements for fear of becoming entangled in a serious slugfest where their capital assets would be risked. "I might not have meant anything by it"
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:11:00 - [2] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 13/01/2008 02:12:06 Now the restraint was gone. CVA had no hindrance in deploying the large conventional and capital fleets necessary to sweep away UK towers and aside from throwing fleets away at frankly terrible odds there was very little we could do. Sev3rance sovereignty was saved by the bell û with the Providence levy fleet at their sole defence it was inevitable also that we would never be able to win an offensive POS reinforcement battle and in a matter of weeks the sovereignty3 would be back and with it the Cyno-Jammer. What to do? I suspect many forces faced with the overpowering numerical advantage that the CVA maintains in Providence would simply have packed up the towers and withdrew quietly in the night. Others would have declared the end of the ôroadtripö and moved to more fruitful warzones. But this isnÆt a fight like other fights, and we arenÆt contesting territory for territoryÆs sake here. ItÆs a war of ideology, of roleplay, of revenge, of challenge. And lets face it, for organizations like Star Fraction and UshraÆkhan the filthy slaver empire of tyrants and puling holder pets in Providence is the endgame content others crave. ItÆs a massively long-term campaign. They have all the advantages of numbers, POS mechanics, game environment, recruitment, out of region allies, the list goes on. But we have something that is massively precious too û the challenge and the lure of the underdog, the desire and ambition to achieve a miracle and do something nobody has ever done before. Defeat the CVA in Providence. And fundamentally when all is said and done, whoever manages to do this thing is going to write themselves into the history of Eve and gain their immortality in this virtual universe of political thrust and counter thrust and deadly conflict in space. But this stage of the Offensive in KBP was definitely coming to the end. Our towers were going down. Sev3rance were going to get their sovereignty3 back. CVA fleet was unbeatable. Numbers were against and heads were going down. What we needed was a miracle. What we got was: Operation Fedaykin The concept. Trinity brought something new into the game. Black Ops Battleships and covert jump tunnelling û this is a technology that can allow a smaller force to by-pass gate camps and move directly to a covert cyno field in the target system for a staging point. The covert cyno is well, covert. So the enemy cannot immediately find the staging point and from there you can move directly to combat with enemies in the target system. More good news is the pure number of smaller hulls it is possible to propel through the jump tunnel (our tests showed the SIN class Black Ops battleship could hurl 61 stealth bomber hulls through the ether to the destination cyno). Next the configuration of Bombers, Bombers are cheap. Hulls from private sources average 5-8m isk a unit. We decided on a configuration ôdeath commandoö that utilised tech1 fitted Cruise Missiles firing appropriate faction weapon loads (60 in the breech, 120 in the bay) tech1 Sensor Boosters, (for range and lock speed) with Manticore and Nemesis brand ships sporting Sensor Dampers for defence. All vessels with as many tech1 damage mods as possible, simple, cheap, and as direct as a punch to the face. We stockpiled a lot of these Bombers in the empire jump-off system. We called a muster for various pilots to gather at the Bomber base and laid our plans. We knew CVA was going to be hitting the UshraÆkhan Tower network with 20+ Dreadnaughts. We knew theyÆd have 150+ conventional ships bubbling all gates into the system. We knew theyÆd be running a high quality 30+ sniper support group for the capitals. "I might not have meant anything by it"
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:12:00 - [3] Our original idea with the Bombers was to combine the effect of a Strong Tower defence with directed Large Artillery Batteries guided by POS gunnery with the sudden appearance of 75+ ôdeath commandoö brand Stealth Bombers for an additional alpha strike of +100,000 damage and ongoing 7500 dps to break the tanks of selected dreadnaughts committed to siege mode. We wanted to demonstrate that tech1 equipment on cheap hulls could achieve a miracle against the odds and give the freedom fighter and the anarchist the ability to do what no other entity has ever done, and thatÆs get the better of the CVA capital fleet on POS deployment in a completely asymmetric engagement. CVA however moved quicker than we thought they would and reinforced the Towers before UshraÆkhan had a chance to upgrade the weaponry to pure capital ship killing mode and while we were given the advantage of knowing precisely when their Capital fleet would be vulnerable we knew weÆd get no more than one siege cycle as a window of opportunity as their 20+ dreads hammered the remaining 25% shields of the Towers coming out of reinforcement. This meant we were trying an untested tactic live with a rushed muster in support of very average towers largely unsuited to our preference. But it was now or never. Once the towers were gone there would be no motive for CVA to deploy capital ships in KBP in the future and the chance would take a long time to come again. So the Operation went live, we advanced the timescale, invited allies and fitted out Stealth Bombers. We prepped 3 Black Ops Battleships for redundancy and heavier load (in case we had unexpectedly good numbers) and waited for the deadline for deployment to come. I watched the target POS from my Cloaked Rapier and made warp-ins for the group in KBP and anxiously relayed the time to reinforcement mode dropping to the gang on ventrillo as people double checked their loadouts, launched into space and warped in beside the SIN class Blackops serving as our primary SB caster while in KBP the covert cyno operator signalled all was well and all systems were ready for the call. 23:21 û the POS came out of reinforced. We were on tenderhooks and full alert. Logistics commanders in SF were reporting weÆd peaked at around 50 Stealth Bombers on this rushed muster. Not enough sadly, but we wanted to make the test and see just how capable this new tactic could be. A few minutes later CVA Dreadnaught fleet warped to the preload point for its attack on the first tower and I watched the group warp-in to a perfect position around 60 klicks below my Rapier. UshraÆkhan POS gunners selected a Nalgafar class Dreadnaught the primary for their guns and I called the jump-bridge live. 50 Stealth Bombers hurled across several systems from Naeel to KBP and emerged at our covert scout a few hundred thousand kilometres from the contested POS. I declared a 10klick warpin from the Rapier and almost immediately a swarm of ôdeath commandoö class Bombers appeared in space and began to fire volleys of 150 faction cruise missles against the target Dreadnaught. But as we feared, it wasnÆt enough raw damage. We managed to get the Dreadnaught to around 60% armour in a couple of minutes but CVA responded with a standoff Sniper fleet and close range indictor/captor tackle wing. We switched targets to support vessels but our bombers were dying fast and there were glitches in the overview setups, people unused to the controls, general confusion and eventually we called a bail from the POS. UK gunners continued the valiant defence to the bitter end scoring several kills but never seriously discomforting the dreadnaught fleet. "I might not have meant anything by it"
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:13:00 - [4] This wasnÆt the end for Operation Fedaykin! Everyone had been asked to bring multiple reloads of bombers, switch to implant free clones, and set the clone base to Naeel. Anyone podded in combat was waking up in the empire staging base and reshipping immediately. Others went to lurk points at the Dital Gate and we arranged a serious of gate-busting bomber-wing attacks to clear the route for capsule escapes and reshipping the conventional way. On the whole these were very successful indeed. And the tech1 fitted ôdeath commandosö were downing HACÆs, Recons, Ceptors and creating havoc at the Amarrian gate gangs with each pass. We were getting the hang of this! The logistics really was the triumph û with our Blackops and Covert pilots ensuring a continuous stream of reinforcements while our Bomber Wing was keeping the gates clear and plunging on targets of opportunity all over the system. Every reported that aside from the pure tactical accomplishment of this concept it was (to quote a player new to the whole business of 0.0 warfare on this scale) ôBloody good fun!ö We made a second attempt on a Dreadnaught (Moros Class) at the next UK Tower to come out of reinforced but this one had even weaker guns than the first, and we never really got off the ground on the business of breaking its tank û but we did switch sooner to the support fleet and scored more casualties in the confusion of the melee. Once again the Tower buckled quickly and we were back to skirmishing at the gates and obliterating anything foolish enough to try to tank an average 35 Bombers worth of cruise missile alphastrike. With two Towers down the CVA chose to withdraw their Capital and Conventional fleets for the time being and we took the opportunity to have a well deserved cup of tea as well. Then ôthe horror!ö I noticed that with the CVA out of system and with our Bombers taking their ease at the rally point it seemed that Sev3rance had descended on the wreckage of the UK towers with haulers and were busy looting the field unanchoring things like so many scavenger beetles coming out in the twilight of the engagement. This could not stand! We descended on the CVA pets like wolves on sheep and blew their haulers to pieces and scattered their hastily assembled fleet in a furious counterattack that saw us wreck an Absolution and a wing of assault frigates in a couple of minutes of cruise-missile spamming ecstasy before guarding the debris field and allowing UshraÆkhan to loot their own dead towers in peace. WasnÆt quite the end for the test-run yet though, an unfortunate United-Legion gang chanced to pass through the system and made a significant error of judgement by engaging the Broadsword class HIC IÆd reshipped to by that point and found itself suddenly impaled on dozens and dozens of cruise missiles ripping their fleet to useless burning chunks of metal before my shields were appreciably threatened. Glorious really! Sadly though that was it for the defence of KBP, the next UK towers were coming out later in the morning and we couldnÆt sustain numbers enough to keep the tactic viable or approach the fifty weÆd had at peak û let alone the 75 we felt we needed to truly threaten an enemy dreadnaught. But there was one last test I personally wanted to try. ôLowsec Pirate Baiting by Cyno-Hictor.ö In the Bleak Lands live the Muffinmen. A pirate corp with decent numbers and a predilection for smartbombing incoming traffic at the gates, they are also quite paranoid and maintain an extensive network of alt spies within 2 jumps in all directions of the place they are camping. Wily opponents and very hard to get a decent engagement from and after all û why should they fight fair? These are pirates after all û they kill people for a living and they arenÆt there for our entertainmentà. "I might not have meant anything by it"
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:14:00 - [5] Muhhahhahahah. Or are they? My ship the ûJFS- ôJudas Goatö. A Devoter class HIC. Filthy Armour tank and resists, cap injector, webber, infinite strength focused disruptor, cyno generator and some little pop guns to get on the killmail. We moved the Black Ops ships and attendant Stealth Bomber swarm to within range of the Bleak Lands and I began to troll up ôrough tradeö in the Muffinmen claimed ôterritoryö where they do their ugly business on a nightly rotation of patrol. Eventually a Zealot, Pilgrim, Vagabond group checked me out and obviously waited on scouting reports before moving into the Gate I was sitting at while a criminally flagged Abaddon class Battleship arrived and locked me up without even a by or leave or ôhows your father?ö I think I surprised them by locking on the scrambler and lumbering out to meet my battleship playmate with a friendly web to make sure he really wasnÆt going anywhere before turning on the Cyno field and lighting the reppers. They probably expected a Mothership. Instead they got a swarm of ôdeath commandoö bombers that hadnÆt quite had enough killing for the evening and they managed to blow the Abaddon into next week with focused cruise missile bombardment and chased the rest to warp with all due despatch. (Next time we add a few ArazuÆs to the mix). Still it was a perfect end to the test and while over the course of the evening we had indeed lost A LOT of Stealth Bombers, weÆd proven the concept was sound in practise and given a lot of our allied pilots and friends A LOT of fun. Much to our surprise the Stealth Bombers performed well even in the moderate lag environment around the POS with CVA support fleet barrelling in. The logistics worked a treat and the tactical surprise possible with jump bridging was genuinely beautiful to work with. So, there you go. Flashy cyno-field/jump bridge gate-camp bypassing shenanigans are no longer the exclusive remit of territorial alliances with high levels of sovereignty and Mothership pilots. Star Fraction and the UshraÆkhan share with the community the secret of causing absolute havoc with Blackops Battleships and a swarm of tech1 fitted Bombers! Be our guest. "I might not have meant anything by it"
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:14:00 - [6] Epilogue The Battle for Sovereignty in KBP is largely over for now. The CVA returned in the early morning and destroyed the last of the UK towers but that was very much an forgone conclusion and as IÆve earlier said, without the ability to contest the Providence levy of 150+ conventional ships + Capital fleet there is no practical way that SF and UK can destroy Sev3rance towers at their reinforcement timer or defend UK towers against concentrated attack in turn. We knew it was inevitable the Tower challenge would end the moment Triumvirate were forced to withdraw from Providence since unless CVA can be distracted by another force to balance the engagements we literally do not have the manpower to win the fleet slugfests. So for now Sovereignty goes back to Sev3rance in KBP and in a couple of weeks the Cyno Jammer will be going back into force and CVA Providence will be whole again in those terms. In the current state of the game I donÆt really think direct attacks on Cyno Jammers are practical for conventional ships so this is how it will stay until these things get rebalanced at some point on dev oversight in the future. But thatÆs not the end of the war for us. The guerrilla fighter gets used to back and forth of battle and the changing winds of fortune. Over the course of the last months of war weÆve gotten strong, recruited decent pilots, tried out things weÆve never tried before. We placed a Mothership in the middle of a dicy fleet battle with CVA and generally had a great time. We have no intention of releasing Sev3rance from the Empire war declaration that remains ongoing and unless CVA are prepared to make a long term commitment in KBP system I expect a return to the conflict of Cloak and POS shields we saw in the autumn. With SF and UshraÆkhan running raiding fleets and hitting Sev3rance and their immediate allies with hit and run gangs and opportunity conflict whenever the chance arises. The Tower Siege of KBP is over. The long war goes on. From here Star Fraction has a busy year ahead. WeÆve got recruits to recruit. Tactics to refine, ships to equip. We know what we need to do to make an impact in Providence and we need allies to do it. But say what you want about the free captains, nobody can doubt weÆve got styleà "I might not have meant anything by it"
torN Deception GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:16:00 - [7] lots of words, not reading, posting anywayz
Grainsalt Free-Corp Foundation Liberty Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:16:00 - [8] Yes i did just read all that, and frickin good idea... I am glad I have skilled up for a widow too as thats sounds cool. but 60+ via a SIN? --- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
OmegaKnight The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:18:00 - [9] Good lord, thats just too much.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:22:00 - [10] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 13/01/2008 02:22:24 Originally by: Grainsalt Yes i did just read all that, and frickin good idea... I am glad I have skilled up for a widow too as thats sounds cool. but 60+ via a SIN? You need to fit cargo expanders and if you were really hardcore then I guess cargo rigs too. The real eye-opener for us was just how many Stealth Bombers you can send in comparison to recons. But there is no practical reason why you couldn't have several blackops in the gang and send a selection of tasty Arazu's, Falcons, Pilgrims and Rapiers in the mix. (of course it does make the whole show more expensive) Operation Fedaykin was all about the cheap rifles delivered by hitech jump bridging. "I might not have meant anything by it"

Grainsalt Free-Corp Foundation Liberty Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:23:00 - [11] Just to re-iterate... The idea of "mini-portaling" stealth bombers on mass via what is effectively mobile stargates (Black ops)... is one of the most underused new features that eve offers.. Glad to see some aspect of it in place here. --- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
laotse The Flying Dutchmen Antesignani Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:23:00 - [12] pff wall of text is back http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Grainsalt Yes i did just read all that, and frickin good idea... ^This And as a bomber pilot, I especially love it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Grainsalt Free-Corp Foundation Liberty Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:28:00 - [14] Originally by: laotse pff wall of text is back I will give you the cliff(sp?) notes... They did what other people do .. Black ops portaling .. but on mass .. and to some nice effects.. But enemy came back in force and drove them back.. They also did it in a way that most black ops pilots dont like to do and become like some titan pilots and that is "a talking stargate". Just goes to show that logistics really is king. --- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
Grainsalt Free-Corp Foundation Liberty Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:30:00 - [15] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: Grainsalt Yes i did just read all that, and frickin good idea... ^This And as a bomber pilot, I especially love it. Yes, and the fact that it is perfectly suited to the goons is especially scarey... --- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
duckmonster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:49:00 - [16] Edited by: duckmonster on 13/01/2008 02:50:49 That sounded like a heck of a lot of fun. As a Stealth Bomber fan, I aprove. But CVA are the good guys, keeping Providence safe from the filthy slaves and Anarchists. Just putting that out there. I'm going to assume however that the SF have a BPO, because stealth bombers aren't that cheap. -----------
Niranen Einar CorLeonis Divine 0rder	Posted - 2008.01.13 03:04:00 - [17] Definitely going to have to give that a try. Sounds like a good time was had there Jade, I'm envious.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 03:06:00 - [18] Originally by: duckmonster Edited by: duckmonster on 13/01/2008 02:50:49 That sounded like a heck of a lot of fun. As a Stealth Bomber fan, I aprove. But CVA are the good guys, keeping Providence safe from the filthy slaves and Anarchists. Just putting that out there. I'm going to assume however that the SF have a BPO, because stealth bombers aren't that cheap. We got all but Purifiers at cost, and I picked up the purifiers at 10m from jita in freighter. So yeah, pretty cheap on the whole. One thing we noted from the whole show was just how little lag our SB wing actually seemed to cause itself. I put that down to the self tracking of missiles, no drones, and only 4 discrete hull types for the grid to load. And because we made no lag the whole thing was much more playable. (for comparison) if we've played in the past with 50 BS's vs the CVA uberblob the whole thing becomes a slideshow lagfest in about 60secs flat. Maybe there is something to this "fight through the lag thing" and it has to do with picking friendly fleet composition that doesn't cause overt Laggyness. Worth mulling over. "I might not have meant anything by it"
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2008.01.13 03:21:00 - [19] I read it, pretty cool. ------- Everything I say represents my corporation and their views.
Zardock Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.13 03:26:00 - [20] Before I grab a cup of coffee to read the jade'wall'o'text I have to say Welcome back Jade.

BoB sucks Burning Bush Enterprises	Posted - 2008.01.13 03:38:00 - [21] Edited by: BoB sucks on 13/01/2008 03:38:23 Originally by: Zardock Before I grab a cup of coffee to read the jade'wall'o'text I have to say Welcome back Jade. Coffee? please tell me your not fluent in English. Otherwise, read at a 3rd grade level much?
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.13 03:40:00 - [22] Your posts genuinely add something to the game experience Jade :)
jdok Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 03:50:00 - [23] Best fleet fight night I've ever had. At first I thought this was just one of jade's crazy schemes... Well, I still think that, but it worked bloody well!
Kylegar Caldari Shadow Of The Light	Posted - 2008.01.13 03:53:00 - [24] That would have been crazy fun to play in...Good Thinking! -- Originally by: CCP Ginger No sex changes.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.01.13 04:40:00 - [25] tl;dr, i dont normally like what you have to say anyway
Gjs312 The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.13 05:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: duckmonster Edited by: duckmonster on 13/01/2008 02:50:49 That sounded like a heck of a lot of fun. As a Stealth Bomber fan, I aprove. But CVA are the good guys, keeping Providence safe from the filthy slaves and Anarchists. Just putting that out there. I'm going to assume however that the SF have a BPO, because stealth bombers aren't that cheap. We got all but Purifiers at cost, and I picked up the purifiers at 10m from jita in freighter. So yeah, pretty cheap on the whole. One thing we noted from the whole show was just how little lag our SB wing actually seemed to cause itself. I put that down to the self tracking of missiles, no drones, and only 4 discrete hull types for the grid to load. And because we made no lag the whole thing was much more playable. (for comparison) if we've played in the past with 50 BS's vs the CVA uberblob the whole thing becomes a slideshow lagfest in about 60secs flat. Maybe there is something to this "fight through the lag thing" and it has to do with picking friendly fleet composition that doesn't cause overt Laggyness. Worth mulling over. Or, mabey they finally decided to reinforce that god-forsaken providence node after all the action its seen recently . (Seriously I thought it was a rumor, but providence really did seem to lag worse then any region I have ever played in, I dunno )
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.13 05:16:00 - [27] Originally by: Gjs312 Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: duckmonster Edited by: duckmonster on 13/01/2008 02:50:49 That sounded like a heck of a lot of fun. As a Stealth Bomber fan, I aprove. But CVA are the good guys, keeping Providence safe from the filthy slaves and Anarchists. Just putting that out there. I'm going to assume however that the SF have a BPO, because stealth bombers aren't that cheap. We got all but Purifiers at cost, and I picked up the purifiers at 10m from jita in freighter. So yeah, pretty cheap on the whole. One thing we noted from the whole show was just how little lag our SB wing actually seemed to cause itself. I put that down to the self tracking of missiles, no drones, and only 4 discrete hull types for the grid to load. And because we made no lag the whole thing was much more playable. (for comparison) if we've played in the past with 50 BS's vs the CVA uberblob the whole thing becomes a slideshow lagfest in about 60secs flat. Maybe there is something to this "fight through the lag thing" and it has to do with picking friendly fleet composition that doesn't cause overt Laggyness. Worth mulling over. Or, mabey they finally decided to reinforce that god-forsaken providence node after all the action its seen recently . (Seriously I thought it was a rumor, but providence really did seem to lag worse then any region I have ever played in, I dunno ) I have to agree. In ordinary circumstances Providence lags terribly - but I think there is something to the kind of ships involved in the engagement too. "I might not have meant anything by it"
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.13 05:45:00 - [28] Awesome post Jade. Nice display of out-of-the box thinking and succesfull deployment of Black Ops. :) - -
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.13 06:01:00 - [29] Great writeup, engaging read. As always, respect to SF, always bring it. ___________________ Add total value of open buy and sell orders to "Orders" tab of wallet. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=626498
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.13 06:14:00 - [30] normally id mock the wall of text if you were talking about roleplaying or politics but this is actually pretty awesome



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