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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.18 10:47:00 -
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Ginger Magician appears to be an unusually hated cheap pirate type.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.01.18 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 18/01/2008 13:10:19
Originally by: IDispatch *Ignores Le Skunk's attempts to declare himself the champion of the fools' hill, and turns his attention to more constructive conversations*
Figures. The Noobchampions thread turns from carebear cheering ego boosting boastathon to a massive fail. You sir, have been pwned now twice in your eve career, one in rancer and once on the forums.
For reference, print this out and stick it on a big poster on your wall, it will help you in your career
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The destination system is 0.4 security status. This is extremely dangerous and Concord police can not guarantee your safety there. Do you want to proceed?
NO!
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SKUNK
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.18 13:22:00 -
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Just a question, doesn't the "Low Sec Warning" apply to everyone? I mean if Noobs/Carebears/Whatever go through shouldn't the same apply to Pirates? So if a Pirate has a gatecamp and they are blowing up whomever comes through why should the same thing not extend to Pirates if someone uses a tactic on them that they are not prepared for?
Seems to me all's fair!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |
Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.01.18 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Hooch Flux Just a question, doesn't the "Low Sec Warning" apply to everyone? I mean if Noobs/Carebears/Whatever go through shouldn't the same apply to Pirates? So if a Pirate has a gatecamp and they are blowing up whomever comes through why should the same thing not extend to Pirates if someone uses a tactic on them that they are not prepared for?
Seems to me all's fair!
Well yes. If a pirate jumps into high sec there is no CCP warning, and the pirate is destroyed (or has a slow tank back to lowsec).
So yes, you are correct, CCPS warning treatment of outlaw characters is substandard compare to the 'carebare' who get a warning
SKUNK
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.18 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Hooch Flux Just a question, doesn't the "Low Sec Warning" apply to everyone? I mean if Noobs/Carebears/Whatever go through shouldn't the same apply to Pirates? So if a Pirate has a gatecamp and they are blowing up whomever comes through why should the same thing not extend to Pirates if someone uses a tactic on them that they are not prepared for?
Seems to me all's fair!
Well yes. If a pirate jumps into high sec there is no CCP warning, and the pirate is destroyed (or has a slow tank back to lowsec).
So yes, you are correct, CCPS warning treatment of outlaw characters is substandard compare to the 'carebare' who get a warning
SKUNK
No Mate, I mean when you jumped into Low Sec didn't you get the same warning that me or anybody else did? Going into High Sec is a different matter, the reason people with low security ratings are not allowed into High Sec is because they are criminals, they earned that through their own actions.
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |
Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.01.18 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Hooch Flux
No Mate, I mean when you jumped into Low Sec didn't you get the same warning that me or anybody else did? Going into High Sec is a different matter, the reason people with low security ratings are not allowed into High Sec is because they are criminals, they earned that through their own actions.
Well, yes I got one many moons ago. I remember getting pwned in a belt rattin. I dont remember groaning and cryin about it.
SKUNK
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.18 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Hooch Flux
No Mate, I mean when you jumped into Low Sec didn't you get the same warning that me or anybody else did? Going into High Sec is a different matter, the reason people with low security ratings are not allowed into High Sec is because they are criminals, they earned that through their own actions.
Well, yes I got one many moons ago. I remember getting pwned in a belt rattin. I dont remember groaning and cryin about it.
SKUNK
Sry, didn't seem to me that the OP was crying about it, he seemed to be doing something about it. Some people may not agree with what he is doing but until a GM comes out and says he is exploiting there is nothing really to argue about. What I am really saying here is nodody, Carebears, Pirates, whatever have nothing to really say about someone else's tactics when they are in Low Sec, I think it is meant to be nearly Lawless so his tactic seems valid until a GM comes out and says otherwise.
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |
Val Vympel
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Posted - 2008.01.18 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hooch Flux Just a question, doesn't the "Low Sec Warning" apply to everyone? I mean if Noobs/Carebears/Whatever go through shouldn't the same apply to Pirates? So if a Pirate has a gatecamp and they are blowing up whomever comes through why should the same thing not extend to Pirates if someone uses a tactic on them that they are not prepared for?
Seems to me all's fair!
Oh! heavens no.. pirates OWN low-sec,don't they teach you that in the tutorial You see,it is their turf..CCP made it for them. Noobs,carebears etc. can only go there if invited(trap)or on the pirates terms.ANY deviation of behavior that denies a pirate 100% of the advantage due him(Remember CCP made low-sec for them) cannot be tolerated. So when something goes down in low sec that violates the 100% advantage rule...the ranting begins.
Pirates: Waa It is our treehouse no carebears allowed."sniff"
Disclaimer: Concerning the above comments,many but far from all pirates have this mentality.
And to answer your question.... Yes! the low sec warning applies to everyone.(Except in the minds of those who believe they OWN the treehouse)
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.18 14:11:00 -
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Does this "Our Tree house" attitude extend from not being allowed in High Sec with a bad sec rating, because that wouldn't make any sense! The reason their character has a low sec rating is because they commited an act that lowered it, so unless someone held a gun to their head and said you will blow Bob, Sally, whomever up they don't really have a leg to stand on!?
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |
Val Vympel
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Posted - 2008.01.18 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Val Vympel on 18/01/2008 14:37:16
Originally by: Hooch Flux Does this "Our Tree house" attitude extend from not being allowed in High Sec with a bad sec rating, because that wouldn't make any sense! The reason their character has a low sec rating is because they commited an act that lowered it, so unless someone held a gun to their head and said you will blow Bob, Sally, whomever up they don't really have a leg to stand on!?
Yes..exactly.
Many pirates forget that they are criminals. Many pirates also believe that because the game mechanics allow or support their "exploits" that they are the moral equivalents of their victims.
On one hand they want to ruthlessly control "their" territory. On the other hand they want to complain that they have nothing to shoot at. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
The "treehouse" is a barren hellhole of their own making. Oh!...and it is all the fault of the carebears,I guess we just force them to pull the trigger
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Aoki Shinya
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Posted - 2008.01.18 14:45:00 -
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OP is one of the most incredibly ******** individuals I have ever met. Seriously, this is how you choose to play EVE? "Can I actually make a living off this?" LOL you would be better off mining in high sec with a burst dude.
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.18 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Hooch Flux on 18/01/2008 14:55:37
Originally by: Aoki Shinya OP is one of the most incredibly ******** individuals I have ever met. Seriously, this is how you choose to play EVE? "Can I actually make a living off this?" LOL you would be better off mining in high sec with a burst dude.
I don't think it was the OP's intention to make a living out of this although he does seem to get a good drop every now and then, I think the intention was to annoy the Gatecampers, and he seems to be succeeding.
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |
Khavid Kharver
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.18 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Hooch Flux
No Mate, I mean when you jumped into Low Sec didn't you get the same warning that me or anybody else did? Going into High Sec is a different matter, the reason people with low security ratings are not allowed into High Sec is because they are criminals, they earned that through their own actions.
Well, yes I got one many moons ago. I remember getting pwned in a belt rattin. I dont remember groaning and cryin about it.
SKUNK
But IDispatch is NOT groaning and cryin about it! His position is that in his initial run across Rancer, he gambled and he LOST. Then RATHER than fruitlessly *****ing about it, he decided to DO something about it.
Its the United folks (and other gate camper types) who are doing the groaning and cryin, which is why we are now on page 10 of this thread.
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Khavid Kharver
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.18 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hooch Flux Edited by: Hooch Flux on 18/01/2008 14:55:37
Originally by: Aoki Shinya OP is one of the most incredibly ******** individuals I have ever met. Seriously, this is how you choose to play EVE? "Can I actually make a living off this?" LOL you would be better off mining in high sec with a burst dude.
I don't think it was the OP's intention to make a living out of this although he does seem to get a good drop every now and then, I think the intention was to annoy the Gatecampers, and he seems to be succeeding.
From what IDispatch has said, his orginal intent was to annoy those who had popped his ship. Then he found that not only was it quite fun, but profitable too. From one of his last posts, it does seem that the campers shut down their ops whenever he comes around, so it looks like his success has removed this as a reliable source of income for him (in Rancer anyway).
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Dark Sister
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Posted - 2008.01.18 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
Hmm work it out?
Many of the more honourable pirate corps would let obvious noob characters past camps, and I myself have given noobs breaks in the past.
But now, due to the dreaded noob loot thiefs activties in rancer, all noobs must be popped and podded. One simply cannot take the chance they are up to no good.
I hope all you obvious 3 year old carebear players, who are pretending to be ickle wickle noobs in noob ships to steal loot are THOUROUGHLY ASHAMED OF YOURSELF being directly responsible for the squashing.
SKUNK
I went out again last night for a bit and picked up a few nice things. A 1600MM Tungsten plate, bunch of Ogre II drones, bunch of tech 2 misc stuff, Neutron cannon was the most valuable. I think in total once everything sells I made about 10 million isk so far.
The pirates seem uninterested in the stuff I find, in many cases it's just left out there and I'm picking up the stuff when they leave. This has been incredibly educational regarding combat in eve. I'd encourage new players to try this because learning how gate camps work and how quickly someone can lock you is important. This is all in an amarr starter ship. Best time i've found to race in and steal is during combat. A group of ships will jump in and if you're lucky you'll be at 150km + while they fight, when a big one dies if you are lucky he'll be close to the gate, you can fly in pick up the stuff and jump out.
And bubbles apparently run out of juice from time to time because last night the bubble was down a few times and that allowed me to warp away before they could lock me and kill.
Also if you want to break up a gate camp best way I can see is to get a sniper sitting at 150+ km and light up the cargo containers. The tactic involves using a ton of power and if you pop their cans they become much easier to get rid of.
This is a great way to get into the game in my opinion. Will teach new players a lot about pvp combat and will get them some expensive stuff right away to sell.
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Adelorae24
Caldari Black Podding
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Posted - 2008.01.18 20:28:00 -
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I have to say that this concept never popped into my head. I was always of the mind that avoiding ship loss was the prudent course of action when I started playing. I plan to take one of my noob alts to the nearest gatecamp and have some fun now.
Alien (1979): "Before we dock, I think we ought to discuss the bonus situation." |
Lewton Larry
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Posted - 2008.01.18 21:35:00 -
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I can't wait to start my new career! If enough ppl start making this a profession, maybe low sec may become a little bit more usable again. Maybe
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Aoki Shinya
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Posted - 2008.01.18 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Khavid Kharver
Originally by: Hooch Flux Edited by: Hooch Flux on 18/01/2008 14:55:37
Originally by: Aoki Shinya OP is one of the most incredibly ******** individuals I have ever met. Seriously, this is how you choose to play EVE? "Can I actually make a living off this?" LOL you would be better off mining in high sec with a burst dude.
I don't think it was the OP's intention to make a living out of this although he does seem to get a good drop every now and then, I think the intention was to annoy the Gatecampers, and he seems to be succeeding.
From what IDispatch has said, his orginal intent was to annoy those who had popped his ship. Then he found that not only was it quite fun, but profitable too. From one of his last posts, it does seem that the campers shut down their ops whenever he comes around, so it looks like his success has removed this as a reliable source of income for him (in Rancer anyway).
His entire purpose is to ANNOY THEM? OH HE IS SO NOBLE AND COOL... There are corps that respond to the united by bringing actual fleets into their system and threatening their ships.
FUN? Go try this for one hour and tell me if it's fun...
PROFITABLE? Go try this for one hour and tell me if it's profitable...
Colossal waste of time.
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Ajenia
Gallente Tao Te Ching Industrials
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Posted - 2008.01.18 23:28:00 -
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This thread is epic. I've never heard of the united, but oh god do they need a PR rep -- It's a pleasure to burn. |
Insomnium
Minmatar the united
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Posted - 2008.01.18 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith Edited by: Jei''son Bladesmith on 18/01/2008 05:30:41
Originally by: Le Skunk
As a side note , how did you lose your sec status. I have a funny felling you may be pulling the wool over our eyes... (united alt perhaps?)
wow. thats just.....wow.
so the new United face-saving tactic is to claim that ID's actually one of you?
Wow.
last time i checked le skunk wasnt united... oh and no ID's not one of "us", though he could be one with me anytime he wants ------------------------------------ If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward |
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Insomnium
Minmatar the united
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Posted - 2008.01.18 23:48:00 -
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and i'm not talking about daniel radcliffe ------------------------------------ If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward |
Shekat
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Posted - 2008.01.19 00:03:00 -
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i love gate shopping ...where you pick up some tasty loot, that some pirate failed to pick up, because they were running from some one who could actually kill them lmao..or some drones where someone has gone and bugged out in too much of a hurry ...
but stealing it from under their nose ...priceless...
its out pirating the camping pirates and they hate it ...its a better way too...they spend the isk on ships weapons n bullets / missiles ect and time taken fishing ...and oh yes the risk that a victim is bait for a gank squad yay.. then the lowley noobship pilot comes n robs the robbers ... clasic ...
mm i need some more drones ...time to get the alt out looking for freebies ..
See you in space litterbugs...
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IDispatch
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.19 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk For reference, print this out and stick it on a big poster on your wall, it will help you in your career
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The destination system is 0.4 security status. This is extremely dangerous and Concord police can not guarantee your safety there. Do you want to proceed?
NO!
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SKUNK
I'll gladly do it if you stick one that says "gatecamping kills brain cells!" on your wall
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Shekat
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Posted - 2008.01.19 04:42:00 -
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I despatch ...congrats on the thread dude ...it was funny reading all the slung mud and the counter mud slingers..
i managed to "acuire" a nice peice of faction loot doing something similar to you ...but in 0.0 ..
score!!!
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IDispatch
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.19 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Shekat I despatch ...congrats on the thread dude ...it was funny reading all the slung mud and the counter mud slingers..
i managed to "acuire" a nice peice of faction loot doing something similar to you ...but in 0.0 ..
score!!!
Thank you, and congratulations.. might go and try 0.0 out soon enough, although I was told it's much harder to ninja-loot there
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2008.01.19 04:58:00 -
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Edited by: Wu Jiun on 19/01/2008 04:58:33 This is a fun strategy. Certainly nothing wrong with it.
The loot belongs to the original owner of the ship. Idispatch takes it away for profit. Its good piracy if you don't have means to kill and loot people yourself.
I suggest joining a pirate corp though. Its a good feeling to loot a wreck that you "produced" the moment before "with your own hands" so to say.
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Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2008.01.19 06:03:00 -
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Pure Epic crunchiness
"IDispatch" is just "Cool" spelled really, really wrong.
☼☼☼ 12 Seconds ☼☼☼ |
Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.19 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Aoki Shinya His entire purpose is to ANNOY THEM? OH HE IS SO NOBLE AND COOL...
LOL, I never claimed he was either, merely using a valid tactic!
Originally by: Aoki Shinya There are corps that respond to the united by bringing actual fleets into their system and threatening their ships.
That makes this even better!
Originally by: Aoki Shinya FUN? Go try this for one hour and tell me if it's fun...
Never said it was fun either, just said it was valid!
Originally by: Aoki Shinya PROFITABLE? Go try this for one hour and tell me if it's profitable...
Never said it was profitable, merely said he got lucky with a couple of drops! Can you actually read?
Originally by: Aoki Shinya Colossal waste of time.
But it's his time to waste!
You're post here is a prime example of why this thread has made it to page 11, Good Job dude!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
Only way to be sure! |
Awox
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2008.01.19 11:10:00 -
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IMO something does need to be done about these no-risk tactics. For example, ADVL is securing a gate making sure hostile parties do not get in or out and 'jasdhgla' jumps in, warps his velator off (we're not bullies - and we do not want to waste ammo :P) and whenever there is a new local:
jasdhgla > 3 advl all in recons watch out jasdhgla > bubble up skaron and il-hoa
Slightly annoying that when we drop 10k ISK for a scan probe, 100 ISK for some ammo and 30k ISK for a warp disruption probe on killing him.. he comes back 3 minutes later.
Although, that being said.. we usually just move on or keep him as a pet, and pod him when a new target enters local before he can run his mouth. :)
faction loot ║ affordable hosting |
Tauranon
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.19 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 18/01/2008 01:59:06
Originally by: Dark Sister I tried Doing some Gate camper looting last night in PF-346 and it was very educational and
fun!...
I'm a bit curious why the pirate kept killing me to be honest. After the 4th or 5th time in a starter ship it was obvious I wasn't carrying anything good but he kept locking and attacking, even my pod. Seems like a waste of ammo but I guess letting me in would mean he'd have to watch out for his cans.
Hmm work it out?
Many of the more honourable pirate corps would let obvious noob characters past camps, and I myself have given noobs breaks in the past.
But now, due to the dreaded noob loot thiefs activties in rancer, all noobs must be popped and podded. One simply cannot take the chance they are up to no good.
I hope all you obvious 3 year old carebear players, who are pretending to be ickle wickle noobs in noob ships to steal loot are THOUROUGHLY ASHAMED OF YOURSELF being directly responsible for the squashing.
SKUNK
oh please, the hypocrisy is getting knee deep around here.
You brought yourself to this guys attention by noobslaying/podding in the first place. If you were actually letting noobs through, this whole situation would never have arisen.
I'd also hate to think that any of the 'noobship/noobcorp' players further up the pipe scanning people/watching for gangs were yours either. I mean such a fine upstanding non-meta player like yourself.
Amusing threat anyway, threaten to do something that you've just been caught out doing anyway.
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