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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.30 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 21:39:37 Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 21:37:48 op, are you from same timezone as Hydra's ?
- edit - pos warfare prevent this sort of "I won" since the offline timer make rendez-vous that nobody want to miss :) - edit2 - and btw, Im pretty sure TCF would suck in Empire wars. Unfortunally for our ennemies, we don't do dru... Empire. 2isk
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facepalm johnson
a sackful of sacrificial sacrifices
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Posted - 2007.12.30 21:36:00 -
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Everytime I read about Hydras exploits I just do this: lol.
Hydra are a token alliance, occupying space that Pure can't be bothered to control themselves. You'd never remove Hyrda from Vale without invoking the Pure machine and Hydra never make a move unless they check it out with Pure first.
All in all, very much pets.
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Murina
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lil Mule
Your kidding me right? Ive been in that area of space for the last year, and Hydra has taken one pounding after another of Alliances attempting to take their space (not just harass them). Yes Pure and MM have chipped in a number of times to help out Hydra, but I have to hand it to them, I thought they were dead 6-8 months ago, but they keep on ticking (and I have no idea how!). They clearly have picked their name correctly, chop off one head and 2 more grow in its spot.
Also - Im not quite sure the point of the post, other than its amusing that Hydra chased you to a starbase to be pounded by Sentry guns - thats either stupidly ballsy, or a n00b manouever, Im not sure which. Hydra seems to like to sacrifice its pilots, so most likely it the former and not the latter.
1 Dominix, even T2 fitted = chump change. Now if you had popped a Hydra carrier, that *Might* be worth a post.
Id like to know who these space taking alliances were cos the two i know of are the 5-15 man TI gang and MDK neither of whitch are space conquering corps/alliances.
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Morvyn
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2007.12.30 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Morvyn on 30/12/2007 21:46:17
Originally by: Lil Mule
Your kidding me right? Ive been in that area of space for the last year, and Hydra has taken one pounding after another of Alliances attempting to take their space (not just harass them). Yes Pure and MM have chipped in a number of times to help out Hydra, but I have to hand it to them, I thought they were dead 6-8 months ago, but they keep on ticking (and I have no idea how!). They clearly have picked their name correctly, chop off one head and 2 more grow in its spot.
Also - Im not quite sure the point of the post, other than its amusing that Hydra chased you to a starbase to be pounded by Sentry guns - thats either stupidly ballsy, or a n00b manouever, Im not sure which. Hydra seems to like to sacrifice its pilots, so most likely it the former and not the latter.
1 Dominix, even T2 fitted = chump change. Now if you had popped a Hydra carrier, that *Might* be worth a post.
Normally I'd agree with you that this isn't even close to post-worthy, but you seem to be forgetting that DSTYL isn't nearly powerful enough to take on any HYDRA cap fleets, let alone actually beat them.
As for HYDRA defending their space, I think the fact that MD-K -slaughtered- them and then left pretty much indicates that HYDRA is weak (compared to other alliances of it's size), and the only reason MD-K didn't take over the 0.0 there is that they didn't want to + got chased away by MM dropping cap ships on one of their POS's (just another piece of evidence to show that HYDRA is merely MM/PURE's little puppy dog alliance).
Feel free to scroll down in this forum and give MD-K's end-of-war report, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Kind of along the lines of what steveid said, we're just standing up to them for fun, we aren't nearly ignorant enough to think that we could actually defeat HYDRA, we're just very amused by the amount of Serious Business (R) we seem to have caused for HYDRA.
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Count MonteCarlo
Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.30 23:17:00 -
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Kind of along the lines of what steveid said, we're just standing up to them for fun, we aren't nearly ignorant enough to think that we could actually defeat HYDRA, we're just very amused by the amount of Serious Business (R) we seem to have caused for HYDRA.
LoL....serious? Dude....its a game! :)
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Myth Al'kar
Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.30 23:38:00 -
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Zomg, Serious Business!
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Morvyn
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2007.12.30 23:58:00 -
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Hmm, I believe you guys are missing the Serious Business reference. =P
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
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Posted - 2007.12.30 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: Kera Delacour
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Do not expect much from hydra other than a blob bud, we took 5-15 ships a day into their space for a while and they responded by calling in pure and MM to hold their hands and wipe their butts. Even with a 150-200 man blob against our 5-15 ships they still took heavy losses and only ever got a few of us, even when they dropped warp to can exploits around a gate.
They have had their asses handed to em by pretty much every alliance that has gone into their space over the last few months and its only the fact that either the guys attacking them were not interested in holding space that they are still in 0.0.
Well that and the fact that they are MM/PURE pets.
Since when is a 1200+ member alliance that has held it's own space for over a year and pays rent to no-one, and in fact built it's own stations, a pet?
Agreed that they aren't exactly a PVP Powerhouse but they have held their space longer than many alliances in this game have.
Any alliance needs help from alliances like MM and PURE to deal with a 5-15 man gang when they already have a membership of 1200 is a pet.
MM and pure are no where near capable of even having 'pets'.
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Murina
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Posted - 2007.12.31 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Murina on 31/12/2007 00:02:28
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean [ Any alliance needs help from alliances like MM and PURE to deal with a 5-15 man gang when they already have a membership of 1200 is a pet.
MM and pure are no where near capable of even having 'pets'.
i do not think you realise how crap hydra are at pvp dude.
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Jesnen
Amarr Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.12.31 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Jesnen on 31/12/2007 00:12:46
Originally by: Morvyn Edited by: Morvyn on 30/12/2007 20:08:37
Originally by: Nova Soldier Clearly Destry's Lounge is tri pets as the killbord shows that the carrier they called was tri. They did not ran back to p3 they went to camp it because you docked you're asses in that station.If you have the balls meet us in p3 for a fight we will love to kill you all.
If you actually bothered to read the very killboard you're referring to (the Triumvirate killboard, I'm assuming), you'd see that we're in fact very much not TRI pets.
http://tri.exanimo.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=89582 http://tri.exanimo.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=89580
EDIT: As for HYDRA simply being a pet of MM/PURE, what I've seen from HYDRA so far is that they very much lack any real PvP skill (case in point), and the only reason that they're still in 0.0 (or alive at all, for that matter) is because no other alliance really cares enough to bother taking it from them.
I think the sheer fact that they're wasting as much effort / time / resources as they are trying to fight a small 20-man corp of (mostly) newer players shows that HYDRA only exists and controls space because MM/PURE (and, to some degree, the rest of Northern Coalition) allow them to.
I honestly believe that in an evenly matched battle of skill, HYDRA would very much get owned by our team of sub-5mil SP players. Of course, HYDRA doesn't participate in evenly matched fights, they just blob their asses off to try to blow up newer players in empire.
Originally by: Nova Solider
If you have the balls meet us in p3 for a fight we will love to kill you all.
Yes, because HYDRA is undeniably the most ballsiest alliance in all of EVE.
ZOMG!!! I was honestly surprised that we had 6413 hydra kills, time flies when you're having fun Anywho, good fights hydra, see you after our break is up perhaps.
Edit: there must be a statistical error on their board or something because that just seems like a lot of kills.....I'm so confused.
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
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Posted - 2007.12.31 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Murina Edited by: Murina on 31/12/2007 00:02:28
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean [ Any alliance needs help from alliances like MM and PURE to deal with a 5-15 man gang when they already have a membership of 1200 is a pet.
MM and pure are no where near capable of even having 'pets'.
i do not think you realise how crap hydra are at pvp dude.
8 months ago my corp of a dozen people kept the entire alliance bottled up in a station.
Its not that i dont know how rubbish hydra are, its the fact that i know how rubbish the other 2 are (except mm that cap spams maybe) that i come to the conclusion: they cannot be pets of one another.
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Murina
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Posted - 2007.12.31 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Murina Edited by: Murina on 31/12/2007 00:02:28
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean [ Any alliance needs help from alliances like MM and PURE to deal with a 5-15 man gang when they already have a membership of 1200 is a pet.
MM and pure are no where near capable of even having 'pets'.
i do not think you realise how crap hydra are at pvp dude.
8 months ago my corp of a dozen people kept the entire alliance bottled up in a station.
Its not that i dont know how rubbish hydra are, its the fact that i know how rubbish the other 2 are (except mm that cap spams maybe) that i come to the conclusion: they cannot be pets of one another.
Il get you the stats on how TI did against MM lol you will love them.
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Star Nove
Minmatar Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.31 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Morvyn Recently HYDRA
<Snip waffle>
Anyway, nice try HYDRA, better luck against those sentry guns next time -- this isn't 0.0.
Two things,
1: This wasn't "HYDRA" coming into Lonetrek to harass Destry. Quite frankly who are you? Before this post was linked elsewhere, I didn't know you existed. You and your carrier docked in the station so fast, I doubt anyone had time to get the name of your pilots, let alone the corp..
The "fleet" as you put it was a small gang that had been together for about an hour and a half who had scouts in various systems. Your carrier was probed out and the FC thought it'd be fun to come kill it. There was no HC involvement, it was just a bit of fun.
2: Please, don't try to compare yourselves to MDK. Whilst those stats are kinda buggy, they came and handed us our asses but we enjoyed every second of it, gained great respect for them and we learned alot from the few weeks of fighting.
Fly safe
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Tinka Toy
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Posted - 2007.12.31 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tinka Toy on 31/12/2007 03:04:24 Edited by: Tinka Toy on 31/12/2007 03:03:08
Originally by: Morvyn Edited by: Morvyn on 30/12/2007 21:46:17
Normally I'd agree with you that this isn't even close to post-worthy, but you seem to be forgetting that DSTYL isn't nearly powerful enough to take on any HYDRA cap fleets, let alone actually beat them.
As for HYDRA defending their space, I think the fact that MD-K -slaughtered- them and then left pretty much indicates that HYDRA is weak (compared to other alliances of it's size), and the only reason MD-K didn't take over the 0.0 there is that they didn't want to + got chased away by MM dropping cap ships on one of their POS's (just another piece of evidence to show that HYDRA is merely MM/PURE's little puppy dog alliance).
Feel free to scroll down in this forum and give MD-K's end-of-war report, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Kind of along the lines of what steveid said, we're just standing up to them for fun, we aren't nearly ignorant enough to think that we could actually defeat HYDRA, we're just very amused by the amount of Serious Business (R) we seem to have caused for HYDRA.
Normally I'd agree with you that this isn't even close to post-worthy, but you seem to be forgetting that DSTYL isn't nearly powerful enough to take on any HYDRA cap fleets, let alone actually beat them.
As for HYDRA defending their space, I think the fact that MD-K -slaughtered- them and then left pretty much indicates that HYDRA is weak (compared to other alliances of it's size), and the only reason MD-K didn't take over the 0.0 there is that they didn't want to + got chased away by MM dropping cap ships on one of their POS's (just another piece of evidence to show that HYDRA is merely MM/PURE's little puppy dog alliance).
Feel free to scroll down in this forum and give MD-K's end-of-war report, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Kind of along the lines of what steveid said, we're just standing up to them for fun, we aren't nearly ignorant enough to think that we could actually defeat HYDRA, we're just very amused by the amount of Serious Business (R) we seem to have caused for HYDRA.
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batloard
Amarr Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.31 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Star Nove
Originally by: Morvyn Recently HYDRA
<Snip waffle>
Anyway, nice try HYDRA, better luck against those sentry guns next time -- this isn't 0.0.
Two things,
1: This wasn't "HYDRA" coming into Lonetrek to harass Destry. Quite frankly who are you? Before this post was linked elsewhere, I didn't know you existed. You and your carrier docked in the station so fast, I doubt anyone had time to get the name of your pilots, let alone the corp..
The "fleet" as you put it was a small gang that had been together for about an hour and a half who had scouts in various systems. Your carrier was probed out and the FC thought it'd be fun to come kill it. There was no HC involvement, it was just a bit of fun.
2: Please, don't try to compare yourselves to MDK. Whilst those stats are kinda buggy, they came and handed us our asses but we enjoyed every second of it, gained great respect for them and we learned alot from the few weeks of fighting.
Fly safe
Your totally right they saw hydra in local and were like oopa time to dock.
mmm spend less time patting your alliance on the back, and spend more time training your scout to use a scanner...Im pretty sure my carrier was just sitting on the station ramp.
Im quite sure they aren't trying to say they are in any way up to mdk's level, rather using mdk as a goal for their corp. In any case, hope the smackless fights continue =)
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lazlow lang
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.12.31 03:42:00 -
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We are on our between wars break right now.
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.12.31 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Its not that i dont know how rubbish hydra are, its the fact that i know how rubbish the other 2 are (except mm that cap spams maybe) that i come to the conclusion: they cannot be pets of one another.
Attack an MM roq if you want a good look at their cap fleet...spend time in M-O and you will get to see their titan DD up close and personal (assuming they are back at home...not down south)
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ScheenK
Gallente StatiC Elite
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Posted - 2007.12.31 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Soldier Clearly Destry's Lounge is tri pets as the killbord shows that the carrier they called was tri. They did not ran back to p3 they went to camp it because you docked you're asses in that station.If you have the balls meet us in p3 for a fight we will love to kill you all.
tbh im surprised you guys left p3 for more than 5 minutes, why dont you stay in hakonen and surrounding low sec systems
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Star Nove
Minmatar Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.31 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: batloard
Your totally right they saw hydra in local and were like oopa time to dock.
mmm spend less time patting your alliance on the back, and spend more time training your scout to use a scanner...Im pretty sure my carrier was just sitting on the station ramp.
Im quite sure they aren't trying to say they are in any way up to mdk's level, rather using mdk as a goal for their corp. In any case, hope the smackless fights continue =)
In fairness I don't think it was you we scanned out. First report was of a Thanatos but the carrier I saw when we got there was an Archon.
still GF, I doubt you'd have been able to dock but for the help of our Megathron pilot :p
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
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Posted - 2007.12.31 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Its not that i dont know how rubbish hydra are, its the fact that i know how rubbish the other 2 are (except mm that cap spams maybe) that i come to the conclusion: they cannot be pets of one another.
Attack an MM roq if you want a good look at their cap fleet...spend time in M-O and you will get to see their titan DD up close and personal (assuming they are back at home...not down south)
MM didnt have the caps back in my day so they werent as scary (if thats the right word rofl?) as they possibly are today - maybe scary isnt the right word, just 'not as worthwhile' to engage as they used to be.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.12.31 15:26:00 -
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HYDRA are by far the worst alliance.
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JoDirt
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.31 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Morvyn Hmm, I believe you guys are missing the Serious Business reference. =P
OH NOW I GET IT!!! DANG THANKS 4 SPLAINING THAT!
got any more over used lame internet jokes that have been used millions of times?
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.12.31 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide MM didnt have the caps back in my day so they werent as scary (if thats the right word rofl?) as they possibly are today - maybe scary isnt the right word, just 'not as worthwhile' to engage as they used to be.
They aren't scary today (although the DD can waste a nano-gang without a doubt), they just blob up...thats the big difference between now and even a year ago, a year ago 4 carriers on a gate was alot...today seeing 20-30 caps at a time isn't anything special...
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.01.01 05:05:00 -
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wait what
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UBERSOLDAT
Grave Diggers Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.01 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Morvyn
Originally by: Orar Ironfist Dunno how we got owned when we didn't even lose a single ship, other than a Drake due to lag (which has in fact been reimbursed).
CCP reimburse ships? Since when?
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Morvyn
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.01.01 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Morvyn on 01/01/2008 21:58:26
Originally by: Star Nove
1: This wasn't "HYDRA" coming into Lonetrek to harass Destry. Quite frankly who are you? Before this post was linked elsewhere, I didn't know you existed. You and your carrier docked in the station so fast, I doubt anyone had time to get the name of your pilots, let alone the corp..
The "fleet" as you put it was a small gang that had been together for about an hour and a half who had scouts in various systems. Your carrier was probed out and the FC thought it'd be fun to come kill it. There was no HC involvement, it was just a bit of fun.
I'm fully aware you didn't enter Lonetrek to harass my corp, and I'm not nearly ignorant enough to think HYDRA actually cares about us. You -were- however, coming into Lonetrek to just run around in lowsec operating on NBSI. One of your members, in fact convo'ed me a while back and let us know that HYDRA planned on steamrolling everyone in Hakonen and surrounding systems that weren't blue to them.
As for calling it a fleet, stop playing word games, it's childish and stupid. I really, really hope for your sake that you didn't need to "scan down" our carrier, since it was sitting in front of a station, exactly where it had been when we engaged a single HYDRA pilot about 10 minutes earlier. It wasn't exactly hidden. =P Also, whether or not that gang/fleet/group/whatever was formed specifically to attack us or not is irrelevant.
Originally by: Star Nove
2: Please, don't try to compare yourselves to MDK. Whilst those stats are kinda buggy, they came and handed us our asses but we enjoyed every second of it, gained great respect for them and we learned alot from the few weeks of fighting.
We aren't in any way trying to compare ourselves to MD-K. Like i said before, we aren't stupid enough to think that we could actually stand up to HYDRA if they used all their resources to actually attack us. This fact, however, doesn't disprove that HYDRA is a huge alliance of people who suck at PvP, yet still try to act badass by attacking tiny corps in empire, and then talk crap when they blow up a frigate.
EDIT: Just noticed some more ******ation.
Originally by: Star Nove
In fairness I don't think it was you we scanned out. First report was of a Thanatos but the carrier I saw when we got there was an Archon.
Congratulations, your uber-leet covert ops pilots scanned down a Thanatos which was ... sitting outside the station as well...
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Elrock Storm
Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.01 22:33:00 -
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To Hydra Members.
Please stay out of CAOD, Hydra members made it very clear on our forums they would rather you guys stayed out of this forum.
Thank you.
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Myth Al'kar
Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.02 02:53:00 -
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We have forums?
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.01.02 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Myth Al'kar Edited by: Myth Al''kar on 02/01/2008 02:58:05 We have forums? Hehe just playing. *Goes off to read charter on any official COAD rules*
Want the password??
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Myth Al'kar
Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.02 03:05:00 -
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No thanks - I got it!
-last COAD post while I check on this policy.
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