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Seru Maldus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:24:00 -
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Well, I had a bunch of numbers to spit out, and I do realize EFT and in-game are different things, but im just looking at numbers here and I dont want to cast "large text wall" on anyone. With Identical skills the Harbinger had 93 DPS over the Hurricane, but the Hurricane had an extra 50 somethin on volley. Hurricane outlasts the Harby by 3 mins. Hurricane is faster, Harby had a 2000 hp advantage as well. Just some numbers that caught my attention and was interested to know if either ship has a better time with Minmatar missions.
So, to keep it shorter, does the hurricane perform any better than the harby in level 3 missions/ratting and general pve?
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Laughing Mime
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:27:00 -
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Yes the Harbi is superior due to 1 key factor: No ammo consumption. Of course if the rat types are resistant to em/thermal you might be better off with the hurri.
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Darqion Zenix
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:28:00 -
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If ammo consumption is all it has over the hurricane... it doesnt really have much over the hurricane :p
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:29:00 -
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Harbinger is a little better for level 3 missions than the Hurricane. (I've flown both of them, and both in pvp combat and in missions.)
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Seru Maldus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Laughing Mime Yes the Harbi is superior due to 1 key factor: No ammo consumption. Of course if the rat types are resistant to em/thermal you might be better off with the hurri.
Exactly, I have a pretty tough time with alot of level 3s with a Harby in Minmitar space. Ironically the resistances are almost dead even with the exception of Hurricane having 10% EM over Harby and 7% under in Explosive.
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Laughing Mime
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Darqion Zenix If ammo consumption is all it has over the hurricane... it doesnt really have much over the hurricane :p
for ratting pve you are often not near a station, i'd much rather use a harbi in 0.0 than a cane. You kill each belt 15 seconds faster but require an ammo run taking 1 hour and risking gate camps every 5 hours, all of a sudden that slight dps edge does not seem worth it.
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Byzan Zwyth
Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:37:00 -
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I think the cane has more cargo :p ---------------------- Rank: Tech 1 and a 1/2 cannon fodder
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:38:00 -
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but I thought ammar suck
wink wink
no really they want boost but the ammar seem fine.
maybe just some ****ty ships.
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Minmatar Citizen 4521577
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon but I thought ammar suck
wink wink
no really they want boost but the ammar seem fine.
maybe just some ****ty ships.
Or minmatar suck as much as amarr.
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Seru Maldus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Minmatar Citizen 4521577
Originally by: MotherMoon but I thought ammar suck
wink wink
no really they want boost but the ammar seem fine.
maybe just some ****ty ships.
Or minmatar suck as much as amarr.
Or maybe neither of them suck. :) Anyone else?
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Lazuran
Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.21 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Seru Maldus
Well, I had a bunch of numbers to spit out, and I do realize EFT and in-game are different things, but im just looking at numbers here and I dont want to cast "large text wall" on anyone. With Identical skills the Harbinger had 93 DPS over the Hurricane, but the Hurricane had an extra 50 somethin on volley. Hurricane outlasts the Harby by 3 mins. Hurricane is faster, Harby had a 2000 hp advantage as well. Just some numbers that caught my attention and was interested to know if either ship has a better time with Minmatar missions.
So, to keep it shorter, does the hurricane perform any better than the harby in level 3 missions/ratting and general pve?
Seriously... Invest 500k-1m SP in a Drake and use that. It's pointless to struggle with active armor tanks and turret skills when you can do all L3, most L4 and all 0.0 ratting in a passive tanked drake with your eyes closed...
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.12.21 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Seru Maldus
Well, I had a bunch of numbers to spit out, and I do realize EFT and in-game are different things, but im just looking at numbers here and I dont want to cast "large text wall" on anyone. With Identical skills the Harbinger had 93 DPS over the Hurricane, but the Hurricane had an extra 50 somethin on volley. Hurricane outlasts the Harby by 3 mins. Hurricane is faster, Harby had a 2000 hp advantage as well. Just some numbers that caught my attention and was interested to know if either ship has a better time with Minmatar missions.
So, to keep it shorter, does the hurricane perform any better than the harby in level 3 missions/ratting and general pve?
Minmatar missions was all i needed to hear,since the harbinger does em/therm(ie angels primary damage resistance)it does way worse then the cane...But at the same time against sansha rats the cane can still do some dps towards them as you can swap out damage types.
Go cane tbh.
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Seru Maldus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.21 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Minmatar missions was all i needed to hear,since the harbinger does em/therm(ie angels primary damage resistance)it does way worse then the cane...But at the same time against sansha rats the cane can still do some dps towards them as you can swap out damage types.
Go cane tbh.
Good call. rgr that. And as far as training for Caldari boats, id rather skill up in Minmitar for the other ships I would really like to fly IE Stabber, Munnin, Vaga, Sleip. Also kind of had it with cap-sucker amarr ships :)
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2007.12.21 12:35:00 -
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Use the Harby if you're fighting vs Sanshas, Bloodraiders or Serpentis but otherwise it's 'Cane all the way.
If you want to do L4 missions though I would suggest a Drake -----
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.21 13:21:00 -
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Basically, use the 'Cane for typical Minmatar missions and probably for most kin/therm missions, and use the 'Binger for EM/therm weak missions (like Blood Raiders and Sansha)
Caldari for a "swiss army knife", seeing as they can select damage type easily.
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