You make money by killing rats in plexes and collecting their tags.

You get (meaningless) Victory Points, and Increase in standings with your faction and your allied faction. Once you gain enough standings you can insert jump clones and run some sort of epic arc mission for lots of isk.

Use your system scanner.

They are soloable.

No LP.

Would you say the bounties and tags are equivalent to what people make with hisec missions? Or are they more rewarding given it's in lowsec?

Sorry, my LP question is in regards to the actual missions and not the plexes themselves For example, what sort of LP is made for L3 or L4 missions?

You get standings from plexing to gain access to level 3's and 4's. For caldari most level 3's give 7-8k LP and 17-24k per level 4. Other militias might get up to 30k per level 4 because theirs aren't as easy as caldari.

Would you say the bounties and tags are equivalent to what people make with hisec missions? Or are they more rewarding given it's in lowsec?

You can get approximately 25 million in tags for a major unrestricted plex, which takes about 20 minutes to run. Nobody farms them like this, which means that they probably aren't as lucrative as L4 missions.

Most people don't farm FW plexes. They aren't that lucrative and leave you exposed to attack by everyone else in the area. Most people run them to look for fights or to grind standings when first joining the militia. The FW missions pay pretty decently. The caldari and minmatar missions can be solo'd in a stealth bomber with ease and pay between 20k and 30k LP each. The amarr/gallente missions work best with duo setup, one to pull aggro and the other to do the shooting. Typical setup is a bomber and an inty though other setups work.

"The amarr/gallente missions work best with duo setup,"

could someone explain this plz? i thought stealth bomber works ok? why do i need duo setup?

"The amarr/gallente missions work best with duo setup,"

could someone explain this plz? i thought stealth bomber works ok? why do i need duo setup?

Thanks for the responses so far. Is it safe to assume that the difference b/w the various levels of missions is just more rats? Because it seems that most of the missions require you to kill a target and then you're done. Unless of course, you want to kill all the rats for more tags. But otherwise, that's pretty sick LP for just killing 1 or 2 targets on an L4.

If you guys think this all sounds kinda ridiculous and nonsensical, its because it is. There needs to be more rewards for plexing, and more consequence to occupancy!

I've been working for months to organize the four militias into a single voice for change, which will now be supporting me in the upcoming election as a CSM7 candidate. I encourage all of you interested in cleaning up the Faction Warfare system to stop by and check out my campaign announcement thread over in Jita Park.

I'd rather like a possibility to make ISK (get rich) by PvP alone. At the moment FW missions are the closest thing I can do to archieve this. I just do them in a PvP capable ship. That's why I'm happy with the current rewards I can get by doing missions. PvP - especially solo and small gang means risk and loss (and fun ofc).

But tbh I'd be much happier when I could get LPs or some kind of 'salary' only determined by my PvP achievements. Solo or small gang is riskier and should be more rewarding than 'blobbing'. At the end I'd roam exactly as I do it with missions now. But I'd be much more free in my decisions and I wouldn't have to bother with NPCs. Killing NPCs to get ISK feels more like a duty than fun for me.

Plexing (or territory gaining/holding) on the other side is nice and necessary. But this should be more rewarding (and meaningful) as well. As it is now it's just a nice 'filter' to be able to PvP against ships of my own class and below.

Derailiing thread again. Current plexing mechanics are great for pvp. Some minor additions could be made like an incursion-like bar showing how "occupied" a system is, or perhaps Cerain's idea w.r.t. a "Plexing Alert" alarm. Otherwise, there have been a very large number of plex fights since the Crucible patch was introduced. This is due modifications of the plex spawn mechanics - NPCs have been nerfed, and casual players can now contribute to the Occupancy War no matter what time zone they are in. The destroyer buff has also "nerfed" the influence of pirate faction frigs in minor plexes. Newer, less wealthy, players can now play a real role in plex fights without getting steamrolled by dramiels.

CCP now needs to move forward with the Rewards portion of the Occupancy War - which is another discussion altogether, and hopefully Jans will lead the way in supplying CCP with a list of suggestions they can implement.

If anybody cares to notice, CCP collected the list assembled by Hans directly from the forums and has been slowly implementing suggested features. It's time for us to vote Hans into the CSM so we can get our best representative that much closer to the developers at CCP (with less chance of the message getting distorted by CSM members who have no idea w.r.t FW).

You make money by killing rats in plexes and collecting their tags.

You get (meaningless) Victory Points, and Increase in standings with your faction and your allied faction. Once you gain enough standings you can insert jump clones and run some sort of epic arc mission for lots of isk.

Use your system scanner.

They are soloable.

No LP.

Derailiing thread again. Current plexing mechanics are great for pvp. ....This is due modifications of the plex spawn mechanics - NPCs have been nerfed, ...

The minmatar npcs have not been nerfed. They are still unbalanced when compared to the amarr npcs. But there are a few fits that you can still use to efficiently run plexes and possibly pvp in if company comes. Your just a bit limitted in your fits, and you still may need to warp out if the enemy comes at the wrong time.

Overall X Gallentius is correct. People who have done pvp in plexes love it. There has never been a better time to give faction war and plexing a try.

Also vote for Hans because CCP *will* continue to work on faction war this year and he is clearly the most qualified candidate to make sure they don't botch it.